The case for Kawhi Leonard as Spurs best player in 2013 finals

[HBK_Kliq_2]

2013 finals Kawhi led spurs in minutes per game. Any player who leads a team in minutes per game during a series should automatically gain consideration for most important player of the series.

Game 3: Kawhi has a BPM of 17.2 which is +21.7 BPM over Tim Duncan

Game 5: This game is interesting because Pop decides to start Manu. Kawhi still leads all starters with a 11.5 BPM which was a +4.5 over Duncan

Game 6: Kawhi leads all starters in minutes, TS, BPM

Game 7: Kawhi leads all players in minutes puts up a big double double 19 points 16 rebounds 47% FG and he's 2nd in BPM for all starters.

Kawhi ends the series 2nd in GmSc to Tim Duncan but he's +3 on TS and +7 on eFG.

Due to the total minutes played, efficiency, defense, rebounding, I would say Kawhi was already spurs most valuable player in 2013 finals.

[SouBeachTalents]

This dude approaching 3ball territory

[Horatio33]

Cost the Spurs the title by missing one of two free throws with less than a minute left in game 6. But you won't see that in your advanced stats.

[tpols]

that was the first series i really noticed how good he was.

[tpols]

Cost the Spurs the title by missing one of two free throws with less than a minute left in game 6. But you won't see that in your advanced stats.

didn't manu miss one too ?

he was awful that year.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Cost the Spurs the title by missing one of two free throws with less than a minute left in game 6. But you won't see that in your advanced stats.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=J3NvhxKicJY

Late game 7 Duncan missed a wide open layup with a 6"8 guy guarding him.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

didn't manu miss one too ?

he was awful that year.

2013 Manu was very bad, he had 8 turnovers in game 6. He was doing his james harden impression. He did redeem himself in 2014 at least, although it was a pretty easy finals since Kawhi dominated.

[Ghost1]

Duncan was Spurs' best player that series... Also, Danny Green was 25/38 from three in the first five games.

Parker with a huge shot to win game 1 and nearly closed out the Heat in game 6. Ginobili's 24 points and 10 assists to win game 5.

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Kawhi lost game 6 at the line then got smoked in game 7.

Duncan would've won Finals MVP if the Spurs won in 2013.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Duncan was Spurs' best player that series... Also, Danny Green was 25/38 from three in the first five games.

Parker with a huge shot to win game 1 and nearly closed out the Heat in game 6. Ginobili's 24 points and 10 assists to win game 5.

Kawhi combined BPM for the series: 41.2

Tim Duncan combined BPM for the series: 25.1

I added up their single game BPM and Kawhi crushes Duncan despite playing more minutes. Now you know why old man Duncan didn't win shit until Kawhi was drafted.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Kawhi lost game 6 at the line then got smoked in game 7.

Duncan would've won Finals MVP if the Spurs won in 2013.

Duncan would of won finals MVP if he could make a layup over 6"8 Shane battier with 40 seconds left in game 7. A missed layup is just as bad as a missed freethrow, especially in a game 7.

Kawhi was the most impactful player that series, leading the team in minutes and crushing Duncan in total BPM.

[Axe]

Lol he's only averaged 14.6 points and 11.1 rebounds in that finals.

[999Guy]

Another case of Kawhi being on a completely and utterly loaded team and it leading to...meh results.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Another case of Kawhi being on a completely and utterly loaded team and it leading to...meh results.

Parker averaged 47% TS, Manu's old ass had a 23.3 TOV% and Kawhi still had them 1 ray Allen shot away from the title.

2015 Parker shoots 38% TS and Kawhi has them 1 Chris Paul shot away from 2nd round and most likely a title.

Kawhi/Duncan duo was 2 shots away from a 3 peat from 2013-2015. It was Tony Parker who ruined everything for them.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Lol he's only averaged 14.6 points and 11.1 rebounds in that finals.

Duncan is at 18/12 on worse efficiency. Not much of a gap there, especially when Kawhi has the higher total BPM for the series.

[Axe]

Duncan is at 18/12 on worse efficiency. Not much of a gap there, especially when Kawhi has the higher total BPM for the series.
You seem to stan him so much nowadays

[HBK_Kliq_2]

You seem to stan him so much nowadays

Hey, I'm just calling it how I see it

[Axe]

Hey, I'm just calling it how I see it
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[rmt]

2013 finals Kawhi led spurs in minutes per game. Any player who leads a team in minutes per game during a series should automatically gain consideration for most important player of the series.

Game 3: Kawhi has a BPM of 17.2 which is +21.7 BPM over Tim Duncan

Game 5: This game is interesting because Pop decides to start Manu. Kawhi still leads all starters with a 11.5 BPM which was a +4.5 over Duncan

Game 6: Kawhi leads all starters in minutes, TS, BPM

Game 7: Kawhi leads all players in minutes puts up a big double double 19 points 16 rebounds 47% FG and he's 2nd in BPM for all starters.

Kawhi ends the series 2nd in GmSc to Tim Duncan but he's +3 on TS and +7 on eFG.

Due to the total minutes played, efficiency, defense, rebounding, I would say Kawhi was already spurs most valuable player in 2013 finals.

This comparision is much worse than your 2005 Manu one, and it's egregious that you start off with Leonard (age 21) leading the Spurs in minutes (36.5) vs Duncan (age 36) at 36.3 mins - seriously .2 min? For reference, when Duncan was 21 years old, he averaged 41.6 mins in the playoffs and 45.5 mins in the Finals.

Duncan 18.9 pts 12.1 rebs 1.4 asst 0.9 stl 1.4 blk
Kwahi 14.6 pts 11.1 rebs 0.9 asst 2 stl 0.4 blk

If Spurs had won in 2013, Duncan would have 4 FMVPs.

[ImKobe]

There's no case. Duncan was by far the best Spurs player in that series, I could argue both ends with the way Parker/Manu played in the 2nd half of that series.

[tpols]

Parker averaged 47% TS, Manu's old ass had a 23.3 TOV% and Kawhi still had them 1 ray Allen shot away from the title.

2015 Parker shoots 38% TS and Kawhi has them 1 Chris Paul shot away from 2nd round and most likely a title.

Kawhi/Duncan duo was 2 shots away from a 3 peat from 2013-2015. It was Tony Parker who ruined everything for them.

to be fair there was nobody that could really create offense on those teams but parker. kawhi wasnt much of a scorer or dribbler in 2013 and duncan couldnt initiate any action. tony was being swarmed by miami super athletes and still hit clutch shots. He basically hit a gamewinner before ray's shot, a long 3 dagger in lebrons face.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

This comparision is much worse than your 2005 Manu one, and it's egregious that you start off with Leonard (age 21) leading the Spurs in minutes (36.5) vs Duncan (age 36) at 36.3 mins - seriously .2 min? For reference, when Duncan was 21 years old, he averaged 41.6 mins in the playoffs and 45.5 mins in the Finals.

Duncan 18.9 pts 12.1 rebs 1.4 asst 0.9 stl 1.4 blk
Kwahi 14.6 pts 11.1 rebs 0.9 asst 2 stl 0.4 blk

If Spurs had won in 2013, Duncan would have 4 FMVPs.

Its because nobody expected that Kawhi was their leader in minutes. Kawhi was also the leader in total BPM

[HBK_Kliq_2]

to be fair there was nobody that could really create offense on those teams but parker. kawhi wasnt much of a scorer or dribbler in 2013 and duncan couldnt initiate any action. tony was being swarmed by miami super athletes and still hit clutch shots. He basically hit a gamewinner before ray's shot, a long 3 dagger in lebrons face.

47% TS puts a chokehold on spurs when getting that type of efficiency.

- Parker was shooting like crap
- Manu was turning the ball over like a madman
- Duncan couldn't even average 2 assists

They all struggled, so I feel you go with the most efficient player that played the most mins with the highest total BPM (Kawhi).