GOAT gonna GOAT

[andgar923]

Series on the line, GOAT steps up and shuts down the player Kobe once said was the hardest he had to guard. Showing once again why he's the GOAT player and defender.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPlPNDXkIYk

Going over hard screens, timing, closing in, closing angles it's a beauty to watch for any true basketball fan. A masterclass on how to play defense and specially going over screens.

Kobe once talked about how great Mj was at going over screens and how he continuously picked his brains about it.

[Reggie43]

If you really watched that game at the time you should have remembered that the Pacers had an advantage with Smits inside in the 4th quarter so they were force feeding him to score and draw fouls while Miller served as a decoy. Its funny that playing the right way and not forcing shots and setting up a teammate with a bigger advantage is deemed a negative now.

[Reggie43]

Miller was Jordan's primary defender that game and he held him to 9/25 on 36% which is a better defensive performance than the false narrative you want to push. Too bad Miller doesnt have enough crazy fans that wants to push an agenda and make a video out of it.

[LAmbruh]

Miller was Jordan's primary defender that game and he held him to 9/25 on 36% which is a better defensive performance than the false narrative you want to push. Too bad Miller doesnt have enough crazy fans that wants to push an agenda and make a video out of it.

:lol

[SATAN]

That's very interesting, Reggie43. I honestly can't remember this game in clear detail but it's good to see there are basketball historians such as yourself providing the facts so another generation doesn't get brainwashed by the MJ cult.

[MrFonzworth]

Nothing more pleasing to the eye than watching a man go over screens

[Manny98]

Miller was Jordan's primary defender that game and he held him to 9/25 on 36% which is a better defensive performance than the false narrative you want to push. Too bad Miller doesnt have enough crazy fans that wants to push an agenda and make a video out of it.
lol Jordan stans literally trying to rewrite history to make their boy look like a god :oldlol:

[Axe]

Looks like a certain trust fund turd is making some noises again.

[Smoke117]

Well thank god you made this thread. You saved Michael the time sucking his own self off as I'm sure he would have gone out of his way to pat himself on the back. Well, now he doesn't need to, does he? Put your hair in a some pig tails and you can cheerlead for him 24/7, mate. You ****ing loser. :lol

You should stick to the off court lounge with your trump obsession. You are at least...semi taken seriously there. Save your obsessive personality bullshit for Trump as nobody wants to hear it when it comes to
basketball and Jordan, sweetheart.

[Axe]

SATAN on it again lmao 😂

[DoctorP]

Reggie Miller has always been an annoying c unt but i like his Anderson V Kodak Moment call.

[andgar923]

The video shows all.

The Pacers were going to their leading scorer, but time and time again was shut down by MJ.

Seems like it isn’t MJ fans that are trying to rewrite history.

[Overdrive]

If you really watched that game at the time you should have remembered that the Pacers had an advantage with Smits inside in the 4th quarter so they were force feeding him to score and draw fouls while Miller served as a decoy. Its funny that playing the right way and not forcing shots and setting up a teammate with a bigger advantage is deemed a negative now.

Sure. Never rewatched the series and can only remember bits, but I doubt the Pacers didn't go through their marquee player on purpose. Of course a shutdown defender would alter offensive decisions. Judging by the video they did the moment Jordan got pulled off Miller.

[Roundball_Rock]

Miller was Jordan's primary defender that game and he held him to 9/25 on 36% which is a better defensive performance than the false narrative you want to push. Too bad Miller doesnt have enough crazy fans that wants to push an agenda and make a video out of it.

It is funny how the video mentions Miller's shooting but omits Jordan's.

How much of the series did MJ guard Miller versus Harper doing it? Isn't this what MJ fans complain about with the 91' finals?

[Overdrive]

It is funny how the video mentions Miller's shooting but omits Jordan's.

How much of the series did MJ guard Miller versus Harper doing it? Isn't this what MJ fans complain about with the 91' finals?

2nd 3 peat Jordan had alot of off shooting nights in the playoffs were he still forced the issue and scored like 25-30 pts on 25 or more shots. It's no secret at all.

[Roundball_Rock]

2nd 3 peat Jordan had alot of off shooting nights in the playoffs were he still forced the issue and scored like 25-30 pts on 25 or more shots. It's no secret at all.

:kobe:

Jordan never had a bad game let alone in a Game 7 in the MJ fairy tale we are presented daily. Jordan had a lot of poor shooting series against elite defenses but we only hear about or see his best moments and games today.

The reality is most Game 7's feature poor shooting from both sides.

[warriorfan]

:kobe:

Jordan never had a bad game let alone in a Game 7 in the MJ fairy tale we are presented daily. Jordan had a lot of poor shooting series against elite defenses but we only hear about or see his best moments and games today.

The reality is most Game 7's feature poor shooting from both sides.

You are arguing with yourself with your insane straw man arguments stemmed from your own insecurities. Give it a break little guy.

[Reggie43]

Sure. Never rewatched the series and can only remember bits, but I doubt the Pacers didn't go through their marquee player on purpose. Of course a shutdown defender would alter offensive decisions. Judging by the video they did the moment Jordan got pulled off Miller.

Smits was always the first option of the Pacers offense its just that he never had the stamina and durability to play heavy minutes, add in the fact that he was guarded by Kukoc who was one of the worst defenders of all time so its easy to see where the ball should go unless you want to force a shot against Jordans defense.

[Reggie43]

It is funny how the video mentions Miller's shooting but omits Jordan's.

How much of the series did MJ guard Miller versus Harper doing it? Isn't this what MJ fans complain about with the 91' finals?

Harper was the main defender because they obviously want to conserve Jordans energy for offense

[Ronin45]

Miller was Jordan's primary defender that game and he held him to 9/25 on 36% which is a better defensive performance than the false narrative you want to push. Too bad Miller doesnt have enough crazy fans that wants to push an agenda and make a video out of it.
Totally. Reggie always locked Jordan up. Quite frankly he was a better offensive and defensive player. In my but most peoples opinions of course.

[Overdrive]

Smits was always the first option of the Pacers offense its just that he never had the stamina and durability to play heavy minutes, add in the fact that he was guarded by Kukoc who was one of the worst defenders of all time so its easy to see where the ball should go unless you want to force a shot against Jordans defense.

I remember the Pacers being pretty opportunistic when it came to scoring. Last sentence is exactly what I'm saying. Why should they go through Miller when he was guarded by Jordan.

[Reggie43]

The video shows all.

The Pacers were going to their leading scorer, but time and time again was shut down by MJ.

Seems like it isn’t MJ fans that are trying to rewrite history.

The play was to get the ball to Smits who had a mismatch against kukoc/longley which was shown on the vid with Miller delivering the entry pass. Smits was having a better series against the bulls while Miller was still hampered by the ankle injury he suffered mid series so its only logical to run the play for the Dunking Dutchman who the game prior was nearly perfect from the field hitting 11 out of 12 shots to help the Pacers force game seven.

[Reggie43]

Both teams played great defense but the main reasons why the bulls won the game was Kukoc's hot shooting and the bulls being faster to every looseball and rebound.

[andgar923]

Both teams played great defense but the main reasons why the bulls won the game was Kukoc's hot shooting and the bulls being faster to every looseball and rebound.

I wonder who dishes to Kukoc most of the time?

I wonder who got most of those timely loose balls and rebounds?

[Roundball_Rock]

Harper was the main defender because they obviously want to conserve Jordans energy for offense

Sure but that was a pattern in the second three-peat between Harper/MJ. Meanwhile MJ was the one making all-D first team. :oldlol:

[warriorfan]

Sure but that was a pattern in the second three-peat between Harper/MJ. Meanwhile MJ was the one making all-D first team. :oldlol:

Trying to allude that Harper was a better defender than Michael Jordan.

That’s some high iq shit right there.

:roll: :roll:

[LeCroix]

Miller was Jordan's primary defender that game and he held him to 9/25 on 36% which is a better defensive performance than the false narrative you want to push. Too bad Miller doesnt have enough crazy fans that wants to push an agenda and make a video out of it.

o i c

[Kblaze8855]

Sure. Never rewatched the series and can only remember bits, but I doubt the Pacers didn't go through their marquee player on purpose. Of course a shutdown defender would alter offensive decisions. Judging by the video they did the moment Jordan got pulled off Miller.


Rik Smits was often the pacers go to guy which I’ve been pointing out in Reggie topics on here for years. He took more shots even in less minutes and often by being straight isolated while Reggie was more of a spot picker while running off dozens of screens a game.

Reggie was no doubt the marquee player....but they didn’t always play through him.

Rik led the pacers in shots 3-4 years in the 90s despite never playing nearly the minutes Reggie did. The pacers were an ensemble team despite nobody today caring anyone but Reggie was there.

[MoneyMitch23]

Trying to allude that Harper was a better defender than Michael Jordan.

That’s some high iq shit right there.

:roll: :roll:
Seriously, as if that means he wasn’t an absolutely quality defender, just because they needed him to conserve energy for offense.

I mean seriously the next best player was Pippen, was he going to carry the offense while producing this in the Playoffs: 18 ppg on 41% for that three peat stretch?!

:oldlol:

If you needed to shut someone down, you still put Mike on them. Just like when Grant Hill was utterly abusing Scottie in that 1998 season, and they had to switch Jordan onto him to finally lock him up.

Even implying Harper was better defensively based on situational assignments, and not quality of defense or somehow Harper deserved to be 1st team All D instead of Jordan is ludicrous.

Just goes to show Roundball Rock clearly has an agenda on throwing shade at Michael, either due to odd Pippen Stanism, or that’s all a front running mask for being a low key Bronsexual.

[Overdrive]

Rik Smits was often the pacers go to guy which I’ve been pointing out in Reggie topics on here for years. He took more shots even in less minutes and often by being straight isolated while Reggie was more of a spot picker while running off dozens of screens a game.

Reggie was no doubt the marquee player....but they didn’t always play through him.

Rik led the pacers in shots 3-4 years in the 90s despite never playing nearly the minutes Reggie did. The pacers were an ensemble team despite nobody today caring anyone but Reggie was there.

That's why I said I remember them as opportunistic. Just like the Warriors do/did with their players pre KD. If you got a look you'd get the ball. I remember Austin Croshere having quite some touches in the 2000 finals. Simply by getting open.

[Roundball_Rock]

MJ stans melting down over a simple fact being stated: Harper was the one given the tougher assignments among the Chicago guards. No need to get insecure.

[MoneyMitch23]

MJ stans melting down over a simple fact being stated: Harper was the one given the tougher assignments among the Chicago guards. No need to get insecure.
No, you're the one melting saying Jordan didn't deserve first team defensive selections :oldlol: you're constantly talking about him.

Seems this documentary has got you triggered majority, and all of sudden has you out the wood work. Posting constantly.

Of course on occasion the Bulls would intelligently given he was in his mid 30's, save Michaels energy for the MOST requisite volume scoring for WEAK talented shot creating supporting casts. Scottie 18 ppg on 41% was his second option for crying out loud.

But you're implying Mike wasn't a great defender worthy of his first team selections, which is absurd, and looking to obviously throw shade.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

It's quite obvious you despise Jordan. Pretend to be a Pippen fan, most likely a LeBron Stan. Even to the extents of hyping up mid 30's Ron Harper :facepalm

Harper didn't always get the tougher assignment. Take for instant the 97 playoffs when one of the greatest penetrators ever (in an actually physical grind it out era mind you) in Rod Strickland was ABUSING Harper, Kerr, Randy Brown.

Jordan took to task and totally locked him up.

NO ONE in league history was the player Mike was on both sides of the ball. In peak play, or longevity or consistency in doing so, either.

You're a troll. A sophisticated (in your mind) troll, but your agenda is transparent as Jordan's first team defensive performance.

[LAmbruh]

No, you're the one melting saying Jordan didn't deserve first team defensive selections :oldlol:

Of course on occasion the Bulls would intelligently given he was in his mid 30's, save Michaels energy for the MOST requisite volume scoring for WEAK talented shot creating supporting casts. Scottie 18 ppg on 41% was his second option for crying out loud.

But you're implying Mike wasn't a great defender worthy of his first team selections, which is absurd, and looking to obviously throw shade.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

It's quite obvious you despise Jordan. Pretend to be a Pippen fan, most likely a LeBron Stan. Even to the extents of hyping up mid 30's Ron Harper :facepalm

Harper didn't always get the tougher assignment. Take for instant the 97 playoffs when one of the greatest penetrators ever (in an actually physical grind it out era mind you) in Rod Strickland was ABUSING Harper, Kerr, Randy Brown.

Jordan took to task and totally locked him up.

NO ONE in league history was the player Mike was on both sides of the ball. In peak play, or longevity or consistency in doing so, either.

You're a troll. A sophisticated (in your mind) troll, but your agenda is transparent as Jordan's first team defensive performance.

you gonna be okay, coach?

[MoneyMitch23]

you gonna be okay, coach?
I'm fine Simon. Nice to see you bring your Roundball Rock account out.

[warriorfan]

No, you're the one melting saying Jordan didn't deserve first team defensive selections :oldlol: you're constantly talking about him.

Seems this documentary has got you triggered majority, and all of sudden has you out the wood work. Posting constantly.

Of course on occasion the Bulls would intelligently given he was in his mid 30's, save Michaels energy for the MOST requisite volume scoring for WEAK talented shot creating supporting casts. Scottie 18 ppg on 41% was his second option for crying out loud.

But you're implying Mike wasn't a great defender worthy of his first team selections, which is absurd, and looking to obviously throw shade.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

It's quite obvious you despise Jordan. Pretend to be a Pippen fan, most likely a LeBron Stan. Even to the extents of hyping up mid 30's Ron Harper :facepalm

Harper didn't always get the tougher assignment. Take for instant the 97 playoffs when one of the greatest penetrators ever (in an actually physical grind it out era mind you) in Rod Strickland was ABUSING Harper, Kerr, Randy Brown.

Jordan took to task and totally locked him up.

NO ONE in league history was the player Mike was on both sides of the ball. In peak play, or longevity or consistency in doing so, either.

You're a troll. A sophisticated (in your mind) troll, but your agenda is transparent as Jordan's first team defensive performance.

He makes some desperate and laughable low iq takes and gets laughed at for it. Then says everyone else is just being insecure. How ironic. :oldlol:

[Roundball_Rock]

you gonna be okay, coach?

It is hilarious. So they are saying MJ was conserving his energy on defense and then whining about Harper getting tougher assignments because...he was conserving his energy. MJ stans. :lol

[Axe]

You are arguing with yourself with your insane straw man arguments stemmed from your own insecurities. Give it a break little guy.
Lol you don't want to be on his ignore list for giving him some kind of friendly advice or lecture. He's simply trying too hard to show his disdain over these overzealous mj stans instead of learning how to ignore them.

[Reggie43]

I wonder who dishes to Kukoc most of the time?

I wonder who got most of those timely loose balls and rebounds?

Harper and Jordan had 2 each for Kukoc while Pippen led the team with 12 boards (team high) to Jordans 9, Pip added an extra 2 steals and a block with MJ not getting anything.

Jordan is easily the Goat yet it boggles the mind that his stans are so insecure that they try to rewrite history to make him look better than he actually is while diminishing the help he actually received.

[Roundball_Rock]

Harper and Jordan had 2 each for Kukoc while Pippen led the team with 12 boards (team high) to Jordans 9, Pip added an extra 2 steals and a block with MJ not getting anything.

Jordan is easily the Goat yet it boggles the mind that his stans are so insecure that they try to rewrite history to make him look better than he actually is while diminishing the help he actually received.

It is weird, isn't it? He arguably has the best record of any player. Why the need for constant revisionism, embellishment, diminishing his entire team, etc.?

[RRR3]

Rod "career 13.2 PPG on 51.6 TS%" Strickland is one of the best penetrators of all time according to coach :oldlol:


Inb4 "STFU nerd watch da games :mad: :mad: :mad:"




BTW I'm aware penetrating in order to set up passes to open teammates is a thing, and Strickland did indeed average a lot of assists, but you can't call him one of the GOAT penetrators when his scoring was that weak.

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

Pippy being a better defender than MJ has to be one of the funniest memes in history. Only one of em has DPOY and consistently was called the better defender when they were actually playing with each other

Pip def did a better job on bigger players due to size but he wasnt the better overall defender

Reggie is a top 10 scorer in playoff history too. He was better in the playoffs at his peak than someone like Steph is

[ClipperRevival]

No, you're the one melting saying Jordan didn't deserve first team defensive selections :oldlol: you're constantly talking about him.

Seems this documentary has got you triggered majority, and all of sudden has you out the wood work. Posting constantly.

Of course on occasion the Bulls would intelligently given he was in his mid 30's, save Michaels energy for the MOST requisite volume scoring for WEAK talented shot creating supporting casts. Scottie 18 ppg on 41% was his second option for crying out loud.

But you're implying Mike wasn't a great defender worthy of his first team selections, which is absurd, and looking to obviously throw shade.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

It's quite obvious you despise Jordan. Pretend to be a Pippen fan, most likely a LeBron Stan. Even to the extents of hyping up mid 30's Ron Harper :facepalm

Harper didn't always get the tougher assignment. Take for instant the 97 playoffs when one of the greatest penetrators ever (in an actually physical grind it out era mind you) in Rod Strickland was ABUSING Harper, Kerr, Randy Brown.

Jordan took to task and totally locked him up.

NO ONE in league history was the player Mike was on both sides of the ball. In peak play, or longevity or consistency in doing so, either.

You're a troll. A sophisticated (in your mind) troll, but your agenda is transparent as Jordan's first team defensive performance.

Damn

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Swish got banned? wtf :oldlol:

If you are back for the doc, these next episodes (5-8) are gonna be good. And 9-10 will be REALLY good imo.

Had reservations because of the weird editing, but things are beginning to come together.

[Roundball_Rock]

Swish got banned? wtf :oldlol:


He is "Money Mitch 23." I couldn't accept his fate.

[Roundball_Rock]

He could't accept his fate*. :lol

[Docs Orders]

He could't accept his fate*. :lol

:lol

[MoneyMitch23]

He could't accept his fate*. :lol
I’m who?

Btw only losers quit, roll over and accept their fate.

No wonder you’re a LeBron fan.

:facepalm

[Roundball_Rock]

How many times have you been banned by now? Racism. Not surprising.

[RRR3]

Coach tryna play it cool like he didn't have an old account named "Money 23" :roll:

[Roundball_Rock]

Coach tryna play it cool like he didn't have an old account named "Money 23" :roll:

:roll: :roll::roll:



Seems this documentary has got you triggered majority, and all of sudden has you out the wood work. Posting constantly.

How would a "new" poster know about my hiatus?

[3ball]

2nd 3 peat Jordan had alot of off shooting nights in the playoffs were he still forced the issue and scored like 25-30 pts on 25 or more shots. It's no secret at all.

Any off-shooting series was accompanied by WORSE shooting from Pip

MJ's high volume was required, and only he could shoot 40% at that volume and defensive attention. No one faced greater attention than MJ (who had the lowest-scoring casts ever)

[Roundball_Rock]

Any off-shooting series was accompanied by WORSE shooting from Pip

Let's look at the series covered last night for example, the 93' ECF against NY. MJ shot 40% and Pippen 51% (including MJ going 17% and Pippen 83% in Game 3 with the Bulls down 2-0). This was with MJ having a monster 54 point game (MJ shot 35% in the other 5 games).


only he could shoot 40% at that volume and defensive attention

We have seen other players do so. Kobe, for example.


(who had the lowest-scoring casts ever)

The poor guy on the other side had John Starks and Oakley as his second and third options (we saw what MJ did when he had to rely on Oak, didn't we?).

[RRR3]

LeBron took 23.2 shots a game in the 18 playoffs and shot 53.9%, but sure, taking 1.9 more shots per game would have brought him down below 45% :rolleyes:

[Roundball_Rock]

LeBron took 23.2 shots a game in the 18 playoffs and shot 53.9%, but sure, taking 1.9 more shots per game would have brought him down below 45% :rolleyes:

:lol

[3ball]

Let's look at the series covered last night for example, the 93' ECF against NY. MJ shot 40% and Pippen 51% (including MJ going 17% and Pippen 83% in Game 3 with the Bulls down 2-0). This was with MJ having a monster 54 point game (MJ shot 35% in the other 5 games).



We have seen other players do so. Kobe, for example.



The poor guy on the other side had John Starks and Oakley as his second and third options (we saw what MJ did when he had to rely on Oak, didn't we?).

Efficiency at high volume - players with 25+ FGA and 45% FG


Regular Season:

Michael Jordan... 1987, 1993
Rick Barry............ 1967, 1975
Bob McAdoo....... 1975
George Gervin..... 1982
Kobe Bryant........ 2006
Elgin Baylor......... 1963
Tiny Archibald.... 1973
Dominique......... 1988


Playoffs (10 game min):

*Michael Jordan...... 1988, 1990, 1992, 1993, 1997, 1998
Elgin Baylor.............. 1960, 1961, 1968
Bob McAdoo............ 1974, 1975
George Gervin.......... 1975, 1982
Jerry West................ 1966
Rick Barry................. 1977
Hakeem Olajuwon... 1995
Kobe Bryant............. 2007
Dominique............... 1988
Allen Iverson............ 2005
Kareem Jabbar........ 1975


* Averaged 25.1 FGA and 48.7 FG% for his playoff career


Notice that Lebron is not on the list - the 2015 playoffs were Lebron's first high volume playoffs and we saw what happened when the high volume (27 fga) forced him to stray from his normal diet of 3-pointers and layups - he shot an abysmal 41%.. Unfortunately, Lebron has poor efficiency at the additional midrange and isolations required of high volume shooting, so he can't shoot well at high volume or require a double-team to PREVENT high volume.

In the Finals, he only shot 39% - it benefited the Warriors every time he shot, so they encouraged his high volume by not double-teaming.. They only double-teamed him 18 times in the entire Finals (http://espn.go.com/blog/statsinfo/post/_/id/106718/iguodala-heads-all-playoff-defensive-team) (see 3rd paragraph in section on Curry for double-teaming data).. Compare that to MJ, where his efficient high volume caused teams to double-team him 10+ times in a single quarter, as a standard (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=386210) - teams couldn't afford high volume from Jordan, since it was accompanied by high efficiency too..

But the REAL holy grail of basketball skill is far greater than controlling pace with high volume like Lebron, or adding good efficiency to the high volume like MJ.. The real holy grail is good efficiency at high volume while winning championships because the efficient high volume must be achieved within the team concept.. Only 2 players have reached this holy grail of basketball skill (25 shot attempts on 45% during a championship playoff run): MJ did it 4 times (1992, 1993, 1997, and 1998) and Hakeem once (1995).. Ultimately, their elite midrange efficiency allowed them to shoot well at high volume..

[3ball]

LeBron took 23.2 shots a game in the 18 playoffs and shot 53.9%, but sure, taking 1.9 more shots per game would have brought him down below 45% :rolleyes:

If lebron could shoot 25 times at 45%, he would've


https://i.makeagif.com/media/4-28-2020/hyp2rb.gif

[RRR3]

If lebron could shoot 25 times at 45%, he would've


https://i.makeagif.com/media/4-28-2020/hyp2rb.gif
LeBron, 18 playoffs: took 23.2 shots to score 34.0 PPG (53.9 FG%, 61.9 TS%)

MJ, 97 playoffs: took 26.2 shots to score 31.1 PPG (45.6 FG%, 52.4 TS%)



3braincells: MJ scored bedda!!1!!!1!!!





:facepalm






PS: I'm aware Jordan was a better scorer in general that's not the point I'm making.

[Roundball_Rock]

* Averaged 25.1 FGA and 48.7 FG% for his playoff career

That makes 25 FGA an awfully convenient cut-off point, doesn't it?

[RRR3]

That makes 25 FGA an awfully convenient cut-off point, doesn't it?
Yeah, that and he thinks the "volume" LeBron took in 15 is an explanation for his uncharacteristically bad efficiency in that run. It wasn't, he had back problems that year and something was really off with his shot in those playoffs. I've never seen his jumper that bad. LeBron taking 4 more shots per game in 15 as compared to 18 isn't an explanation for the massive gaps in efficiency. It's simply too obvious to state that he wasn't having problems with his back or shot in 18, that just makes too much sense for ol' 3 braincells. He obviously knows LeBron is quite capable of reaching that arbitrary 25 shots at 45% FG mark, but he has to pretend otherwise to keep his agenda up.

[3ball]

That makes 25 FGA an awfully convenient cut-off point, doesn't it?

High volume isn't common

So 20 isn't high volume because that's common... Neither is 23-24.... 25 is where it gets rare, so that's a good cut-off, and it's also halfway in between 20 and 30

Ultimately, only MJ consistently shot great at high volume, which is why he won 6 rings - aka only MJ could shoot well at the high volume required to carry the lowest scoring casts in history

[RRR3]

"20 shots a game isn't high volume...neither is 23-24"


Jesus Christ, this guy is RETARDED.

[Turbo Slayer]

I advocate 3ball as the troll of the month so kblaze can flip a coin, deciding his fate.

[RRR3]

But please, do tell me how what LeBron did in the 2018 playoffs was common

https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/psl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=single&type=totals&per_minute_base=36&per_poss_base=100&season_start=1&season_end=-1&lg_id=NBA&age_min=0&age_max=99&is_playoffs=Y&height_min=0&height_max=99&birth_country_is=Y&as_comp=gt&as_val=0&pos_is_g=Y&pos_is_gf=Y&pos_is_f=Y&pos_is_fg=Y&pos_is_fc=Y&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&c1stat=fga_per_g&c1comp=gt&c1val=23&c2stat=fg_pct&c2comp=gt&c2val=.53&order_by=ws

[3ball]

"20 shots a game isn't high volume...neither is 23-24"


Jesus Christ, this guy is RETARDED.

20 isn't high volume because that's common... Neither is 23-24.... 25 is where it gets rare, so that's a good cut-off, and it's also halfway in between 20 and 30

Ultimately, only MJ consistently shot great at high volume, which is why he won 6 rings - aka only MJ could shoot well at the high volume required to carry the lowest scoring casts in history

[Turbo Slayer]

20 isn't high volume because that's common... Neither is 23-24.... 25 is where it gets rare, so that's a good cut-off, and it's also halfway in between 20 and 30

Ultimately, only MJ consistently shot great at high volume, which is why he won 6 rings - aka only MJ could shoot well at the high volume required to carry the lowest scoring casts in history Aint nobody wants to deal with your bullshit!

Troll of the month goes to you. Spending 6 years and 25,000 posts trolling is....wow.

[Roundball_Rock]

High volume isn't common

So 20 isn't high volume because that's common... Neither is 23-24....

20 isn't common. In 2019 Kemba Walker was second in FGA per game and he was at 20.5. The year before LeBron was second in FGA and his average was 19.3 2017 it was Wiggins, whose average was 19.1.

[Axe]

Wow, even multiple bans wouldn't stop 3ball from unleashing his antics.

[RRR3]

20 isn't common. In 2019 Kemba Walker was second in FGA per game and he was at 20.5. The year before LeBron was second in FGA and his average was 19.3 2017 it was Wiggins, whose average was 19.1.
He scurried off after this :oldlol:

[Roundball_Rock]

He scurried off after this :oldlol:

:lol