2012 Miami Heat vs. 2008 Boston Celtivs

[Lebron23]

Who win in a best of 7 series??

[tpols]

considering they barely beat the 2012 celtics, who had the same stars but far worse versions, im gonna go with 2008 C's pretty handily.

[DoctorP]

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[dbugz]

Easily Celtics

[coastalmarker99]

considering they barely beat the 2012 Celtics, who had the same stars but far worse versions, I'm gonna go with 2008 C's pretty handily.

Chris Bosh was out for the first 4 games of that series and came off the bench in game 5 once bosh become fully healthy they easily beat the Celtics in game 6 and 7, and with bosh's injury, it allowed Kevin to feast on the small line ups of the heat. once bosh came back he did not do much in the last 2 game of the series and also the heat should have won game 4 in that series which went to overtime after d wade missed a game winner which would have put them up 3 to 1. Therefore I have the Heat in 5. just like in 2011 when they first matched up. the Celtics terrible road performances would doom them the lakers that year would have been 3 games up to 2 with 2 games to close the series if they did not choke in game 4 and if Ariza was healthly i say the laker's win that final's series in 2008.

[Manny98]

Baby LeBron took them seven games with Delonte West as his partner in crime

So imagine if he wasn't a baby and had Wade & Bosh instead of West and Big Z

Heat would win for sure

[dbugz]

Imagine LBJ playing again against his greatest rival Paul Pierce?

that will be Epic

[Turbo Slayer]

The 2008 Celtics got taken to 7 games by the Hawks and the Cavs with inferior supporting casts so I pick the Miami Heat.

Add in the fact that LeBron and the Heat were desperate and hungry to win their 1st chip in the Heatles era after choking in the 2011 Finals, no doubt the Heat for me.

[coastalmarker99]

Baby LeBron took them seven games with Delonte West as his partner in crime

So imagine if he wasn't a baby and had Wade & Bosh instead of West and Big Z

Heat would win for sure

What no one factors in is how terrible the Celtics played on the road all throughout the playoffs in 2008. They lost all their road games through their first 2 rounds they only won 3 games out of 12 on the road. And if the lakers had not massively choked in that game 4 it would have been 2 out of 12 that' is 16 per cent that is horrible. If Miami steals a road game they are winning the series in 6. the Celtics could have been taken to 7 by three teams without that La choke in game 4 the heat would run them off the floor if Perkins is put in as they did in the 2012 finals and the same if the Celtics put in big baby with bosh as the small-ball center.

[Axe]

'08 celtics will still have homecourt advantage fyi. They could have done better in finishing road games tho.

[Turbo Slayer]

Also keep in mind that the Finals was played in a 2-3-2 format back then.

[Wally450]

Celticsin 6.

[TheCorporation]

Baby LeBron took them seven games with Delonte West as his partner in crime

So imagine if he wasn't a baby and had Wade & Bosh instead of West and Big Z

Heat would win for sure

/thread

[LostCause]

08 Celtics

[Whoah10115]

The Celtics played down to their competition in the first two rounds, which also happen to be their first ever series together.

It would be close. LeBron would be the best player, but I think KG was still in his prime and therefore just ahead of Wade, then Pierce, then Allen, then Bosh.

Both teams had a lot of depth, tho I think Boston used it more organically. Spoelstra has been over-criticized, but he wasn't a great coach on the offensive side. Doc coached too much, tho. And I think he's closer to a liability than a lot of people think.

Would be a great series, but I think Boston win. The big 3s both, more or less, even out, but Boston's work much better as a trio (tho LeBron and Wade as a duo is fantastic). But I think Boston are better...and then add that Rondo began to come of age in the playoffs. I think Boston win in 6, maybe 7.

[Uncle Drew]

considering they barely beat the 2012 celtics, who had the same stars but far worse versions, im gonna go with 2008 C's pretty handily.

That works both ways. The Celtics got taken to 7 games by the Hawks.

[TheCorporation]

That works both ways. The Celtics got taken to 7 games by the Hawks.

Uncle D stay slayin

[tpols]

That works both ways. The Celtics got taken to 7 games by the Hawks.

apples and oranges.

The hawks have no reference point to the 2012 heat. cetics do.

We saw the heat play the old, out of prime version of the Celtics and it was no easy ride. We're talking about all the same core players on both teams.

Lebron also had one the worst series of his career against 2008 Boston. Garnett was still a superstar, pierce and ray were both still playing like all stars.

[Uncle Drew]

apples and oranges.

The hawks have no reference point to the 2012 heat. cetics do.

We saw the heat play the old, out of prime version of the Celtics and it was no easy ride. We're talking about all the same core players on both teams.

Lebron also had one the worst series of his career against 2008 Boston. Garnett was still a superstar, pierce and ray were both still playing like all stars.

:oldlol:

If the 2012 Heat would've been taken to 7 games by a team comparable to the 37-45 Hawks you would've used it as an argument to oblivion. No credibility whatsoever.

[tpols]

:oldlol:

If the 2012 Heat would've been taken to 7 games by a team comparable to the 37-45 Hawks you would've used it as an argument to oblivion. No credibility whatsoever.

the 2012 heat barely beat a 2012 pacers team where david west was their highest scorer at 14 ppg.

Paul George was at 10 ppg.

link (https://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/2012-nba-eastern-conference-semifinals-pacers-vs-heat.html)

:roll:

[red1]

the 2012 heat barely beat a 2012 pacers team where david west was their highest scoer at 14 ppg.

Paul George was at 10 ppg.

link (https://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/2012-nba-eastern-conference-semifinals-pacers-vs-heat.html)

:roll:

oh you mean the series bosh was out? :roll:


a team without any bigs? :roll:

[tpols]

The pacers didnt have a single player averaging above 15 ppg.

:roll:

The heat had Lebron AND Wade doing 25+ ppg.

There's no excuse lol

[red1]

BOSH?

i thought he was trash.

The pacers didnt have a single player avergaing above 15 ppg.

:roll:

The heat had Lebron AND Wade doing 25+ ppg.

There's no excuse lol

Im just sharing the facts. bosh was out. and they were already weak up front.


of course you wouldnt mention that though. :oldlol:

[tpols]

^ i mean dude... 2012 wade and lebron put up 25+ a game... other team best player is a 14 ppg old david west.

Series was tight.

How... the ****... could they beat prime Garnett, Pierce, Ray, and Rondo if they struggled with the aforementioned?

It's a real question.

[red1]

i mean dude.... 2012 wade and lebron put up 25+ a game... other team best player is an 14 ppg old david west, and they barely win.

Series was tight.

How... the ****... could they beat prime Garnett, Pierce, Ray, and Rondo?

It's a real question.

but then they beat the thunder when they had their full team healthy. a thunder team that was much more talented than the pacers team that you're talking about.


I dont know who would win between the 2012 heat and 2008 celtics. Id like that series.


but I do know who the best player would be. :oldlol:

[RRR3]

but then they beat the thunder when they had their full team healthy. a thunder team that was much more talented than the pacers team that you're talking about.


I dont know who would win between the 2012 heat and 2008 celtics. Id like that series.


but I do know who the best player would be. :oldlol:
I like how dude brings up 2012 like the Heat didn't booty blast a one year younger version of the same team in 2011 :oldlol:

No credibility

[red1]

I like how dude brings up 2012 like the Heat didn't booty blast a one year younger version of the same team in 2011 :oldlol:

No credibility

tpols is the textbook poster boy for the kobe/curry/rose/kawhi/pg/kd/anyone-but-lebron-fam


he was telling us curry is better than lebron when curry was having his MVP seasons - what happened to that bro? :roll:

[TheCorporation]

^ i mean dude... 2012 wade and lebron put up 25+ a game... other team best player is a 14 ppg old david west.

Series was tight.

How... the ****... could they beat prime Garnett, Pierce, Ray, and Rondo if they struggled with the aforementioned?

It's a real question.

What was Miami's #3 option compared to Pacers #5 option. Pacers were thick in talent that year. Very balanced.

#3 10.8 vs #5 10.0

Pacers were deep

[Uncle Drew]

the 2012 heat barely beat a 2012 pacers team where david west was their highest scorer at 14 ppg.

Paul George was at 10 ppg.

link (https://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/2012-nba-eastern-conference-semifinals-pacers-vs-heat.html)

:roll:
They beat them in 6, winning 3 straight games. The Pacers were top 10 in both offense and defense, which only good teams do. The Hawks were below league average in either. That Pacers team won 5 more games than the Hawks despite a lock out season. :oldlol: Please continue making a fool out of yourself.

[Phoenix]

I like how dude brings up 2012 like the Heat didn't booty blast a one year younger version of the same team in 2011 :oldlol:

No credibility

But the 2011 team isn't the comparison. It's the 2008 one where Pierce was prime, Ray end of prime and Garnett was DPOY and a MVP candidate. That team isnt losing 4-1 to any of the Heatle squads. The 2012 Heat and 2008 Celtics is a good matchup that's likely to go 7.

[iamgine]

considering they barely beat the 2012 celtics, who had the same stars but far worse versions, im gonna go with 2008 C's pretty handily.
2012 Celtics had a much improved Rondo though.

[86Celtics]

But the 2011 team isn't the comparison. It's the 2008 one where Pierce was prime, Ray end of prime and Garnett was DPOY and a MVP candidate. That team isnt losing 4-1 to any of the Heatle squads. The 2012 Heat and 2008 Celtics is a good matchup that's likely to go 7.

Indeed. If both squads are at full strength, it's too close to call even though I'd like to think that the Celtics would have found a way to prevail.

[Axe]

Indeed. If both squads are at full strength, it's too close to call even though I'd like to think that the Celtics would have found a way to prevail.
Also, doc was a good coach, i guess.

[Mr Feeny]

The Celtics clearly win. I'm really not sure how this is a question. The broken down version of that team that consisted of 36 and 35 year olds took the 2012 Heat to the final minutes of game 7 and had them on the ropes.

Pierce was a much better player in 2008 than he was in 2012. Garnett had declined by a significant margin by 2012, as had Allen.

It's a matchup issue. Posey would have been there to throw another body at Lebron. Wade would have had to chase Allen around screens all game long.

Garnett would have ravaged Bosh.

This is one of the easier hypothetical matchups that has been mentioned on here.

[Mr Feeny]

2012 Celtics had a much improved Rondo though.

But a much worse triumvirate. Rondo's improvement doesnt really offset their decline.