Would MJ survive modern era shooting 28%? DeMar shooting 28% too...

[SpaceJam2]

The NBA 3pt line was shortened for 3 years, set to WNBA distances in 95, 96, and 97.

If you take away MJs WNBA years he shot 28% for his career from 3 with over 1000 attempts (his career sample size)

28%

For his career.

Guess what, so does Demar (28% from 3p]

Wow

[3ball]

The 28% is on no volume so who cares

MJ was a good 3-point shooter anytime he had volume, or when it mattered (playoffs before he got old, aka pre-35 years old)

[highwhey]

a guard that shoots 28% from 3?

would he even start?

[SpaceJam2]

a guard that shoots 28% from 3?

would he even start?

There's a reason we call him DeMar Dejorzdan :lol

[SpaceJam2]

The 28% is on no volume so who cares

MJ was a good 3-point shooter anytime he had volume, or when it mattered (playoffs before he got old, aka pre-35 years old)

:lol

Got'm again :lol

28% for 1000 attempts...

[Dray n Klay]

That

[SpaceJam2]

[QUOTE=Dray n Klay]That

[RealSkipBayless]

[QUOTE=Dray n Klay]That

[SpaceJam2]

True.

No shame in being a 6th man either. It's a key role for contenders.


DeMar as a 6th man :eek:

[3ball]

:lol

Got'm again :lol

28% for 1000 attempts...
What are Jordan's 3-point stats when he took more than 1.5 attempts?

And what are Jordan's stats in the playoffs before he got old (pre-35 years old)?

I'll wait..

[Dray n Klay]

I see, I see.

So basically MJ in the modern era is like Jamal Crawford but a little bit taller. Because he can score, he can't shoot the three, and he can't defend so a decent 6th man.

Jamal Crawford has better handles and a 3 point shot than MJ, MJ in today’s league would be Lou Williams with 3 inches more height but a worse 3 point shooter :eek:

[SpaceJam2]

Jamal Crawford has better handles and a 3 point shot than MJ, MJ in today’s league would be Lou Williams with 3 inches more height but a worse 3 point shooter :eek:

Would he start like DeMar or come off the bench as a scoring spark?

Damn

MJ is a fraud

Is he top 5 anymore?

[superduper]

Where are all of the "unbias" posters to cry about trolls?

Oh yeah they only do that in anti-Bran threads

[3ball]

What are Jordan's 3-point stats when he took more than 1.5 attempts?

And what are Jordan's stats in the playoffs before he got old (pre-35 years old)?

I'll wait..
still waiting

[Dray n Klay]

Would he start like DeMar or come off the bench as a scoring spark?

Damn

MJ is a fraud

Is he top 5 anymore?
Would Demar and Woolridge win more than 30 games together?


If the answer is yes....

[LostCause]

[QUOTE=Dray n Klay]Jamal Crawford has better handles and a 3 point shot than MJ, MJ in today

[SpaceJam2]

Where are all of the "unbias" posters to cry about trolls?

Oh yeah they only do that in anti-Bran threads

Are you seriously joking? I took a 1000 shot sample. All I did was take out the years he was shooting at Little Tykes WNBA distance and he was a career 28% shooter.


It's pretty clear he never was a good shooter. Maybe facts hurt? But the truth is the truth

[SpaceJam2]

LeBron in the 90s would be Larry Johnson with less rebounds :hammerhead:

Riiight

6911 :lol

Keep up sweetie

[LostCause]

Riiight

6911 :lol

Keep up sweetie

Ok

Larry Johnson today would be LeBron

With less assists :hammerhead:

[3ball]

Riiight

6911 :lol

Keep up sweetie
how many ppg compared to MJ

[SpaceJam2]

Ok

Larry Johnson today would be LeBron

With less assists :hammerhead:


6911
#1
Keep up

[SpaceJam2]

how many ppg compared to MJ

28% for his career :eek:

Literal Demar #s

[LostCause]

6911
#1
Keep up

Damn. Shame Larry had to play in the 90s

He's score over 6900 points if he played today is what you're saying?

[tontoz]

First of all the corner 3 was the same after the change. The greatest distance change was at the top of the key and even then it was less than 2 feet. Let's not pretend that it was a huge change.

Before the change he had a couple of respectable years when he averaged 3 attempts per game from 3:

37.6% in '90
35.2% in '93

The reason his overall percentage is low is because of the years where he rarely shot them unless he had to beat the clock.

[Bronbron23]

The NBA 3pt line was shortened for 3 years, set to WNBA distances in 95, 96, and 97.

If you take away MJs WNBA years he shot 28% for his career from 3 with over 1000 attempts (his career sample size)

28%

For his career.

Guess what, so does Demar (28% from 3p]

Wow
What spacejam aka manny fails to tell everyone is that in the post season from the regular 3 point line mj shot a higher percentage than lebron.

Spacejam out here on some nick right smoke and mirror shit :facepalm

[Turbo Slayer]

What spacejam aka manny fails to tell everyone is that in the post season from the regular 3 point line mj shot a higher percentage than lebron.

Spacejam out here on some nick right smoke and mirror shit :facepalm
good post bronbron23 :bowdown:

[Bronbron23]

:cheers:
good post bronbron23 :bowdown:

[Turbo Slayer]

:cheers:
:cheers:

spacejam2 must be crazy. :lol

[Bronbron23]

:cheers:

spacejam2 must be crazy. :lol
Yeah he's definitely a mental health patient. I get liking your favorite player but that boy is obsessed with lebron.

[Turbo Slayer]

Yeah he's definitely a mental health patient. I get liking your favorite player but that boy is obsessed with lebron.
I totally get it. LeBron is OBVIOUSLY my favorite player but spacejam2 goes to far with this topics. :oldlol:

:applause:

[Bronbron23]

I totally get it. LeBron is OBVIOUSLY my favorite player but spacejam2 goes to far with this topics. :oldlol:

:applause:
I actually like lebron i just like messing with spacejam because he talks so much bs.

[Turbo Slayer]

I actually like lebron i just like messing with spacejam because he talks so much bs.
Cool bronbron23. :cheers:

Nice to meet you bro

I'm new to ISH.

Any poster I need to be warned about?

Any posters that are hostile/trolls? :rant

[Darth_Vader]

Cool bronbron23. :cheers:

Nice to meet you bro

I'm new to ISH.

Any poster I need to be warned about?

Any posters that are hostile/trolls? :rant
**** u Turbo Slayer. Kids these days..:lol

aint no-one respect you fool :roll:

[Bronbron23]

Cool bronbron23. :cheers:

Nice to meet you bro

I'm new to ISH.

Any poster I need to be warned about?

Any posters that are hostile/trolls? :rant
Lol nah not really. Its not that serious really. This biggest trolls though are probably the bron stans. Spacejam, manny and dray and klay. Drays actually not as bad as those 2 though.

3ball goes to far with his mj shit but i dont think hes trolling. He genuinely believes what hes saying hes just way to in to mj.

[Darth_Vader]

Lol nah not really. Its not that serious really. This biggest trolls though are probably the bron stans. Spacejam, manny and dray and klay. Drays actually not as bad as those 2 though.

3ball goes to far with his mj shit but i dont think hes trolling. He genuinely believes what hes saying hes just way to in to mj.
Turbo Slayer a bitch!

:facepalm

[Turbo Slayer]

Lol nah not really. Its not that serious really. This biggest trolls though are probably the bron stans. Spacejam, manny and dray and klay. Drays actually not as bad as those 2 though.

3ball goes to far with his mj shit but i dont think hes trolling. He genuinely believes what hes saying hes just way to in to mj.
cool bro :cheers:

Ima log off.

Stay safe bro! :cheers:

bronbron23 the goat!

[Darth_Vader]

Lol nah not really. Its not that serious really. This biggest trolls though are probably the bron stans. Spacejam, manny and dray and klay. Drays actually not as bad as those 2 though.

3ball goes to far with his mj shit but i dont think hes trolling. He genuinely believes what hes saying hes just way to in to mj.
weak :facepalm

[And1AllDay]

Lol nah not really. Its not that serious really. This biggest trolls though are probably the bron stans. Spacejam, manny and dray and klay. Drays actually not as bad as those 2 though.

3ball goes to far with his mj shit but i dont think hes trolling. He genuinely believes what hes saying hes just way to in to mj.

:oldlol: :roll: :roll:

[Darth_Vader]

:oldlol: :roll: :roll:
:no: :no: :no:

ISH is soft.

[SpaceJam2]

What spacejam aka manny fails to tell everyone is that in the post season from the regular 3 point line mj shot a higher percentage than lebron.

Spacejam out here on some nick right smoke and mirror shit :facepalm


NOPE. MJ was a 28% bum

[Darth_Vader]

NOPE. MJ was a 28% bum
phony ass poster...:oldlol:

this bball board dying QUICK.

:biggums:

[Vino24]

I tried to refute op but I couldn

[SpaceJam2]

[QUOTE=Vino24]I tried to refute op but I couldn

[Overdrive]

Talking about facts:

What is Lebron's 3p% in the playoffs, what is Jordan's?

[AirBonner]

Talking about facts:

What is Lebron's 3p% in the playoffs, what is Jordan's?
How about career numbers?

[Overdrive]

How about career numbers?

Ok:

Lebron 50,4/34,3/73,5
Jordan 49,7/32,7/83,5

[brutalBBQ]

1.6% career difference,

[AirBonner]

1.6% career difference,
That is like saying man nearly landed on the moon

[PeroAntic]

Jordan is in a different galaxy from Derozan when it comes to defense. If Derozan was as good a defender as Jordan, he would have been the best SG in the league regardless of his three point shooting.

But op is the biggest moron by far on this board so of course hes not gonna say anything about this.

[ImKobe]

Demar tried to shoot it at a volume and could barely crack 30%... meanwhile Jordan had seasons of shooting 35 and 37% at 2-3 per game and shot above 38% for 3 straight title runs.

[Bronbron23]

The fax got'm DEAD to rights
Oh really heres some facts.

Playoffs(regular line):
Mj- 39%
Bron- 33%

Mj in the post season was actually worse a from the shorten line (32%). In his prime years through his first three peat mj shot 39% from the regular three point line each year. The following season when the line was shortened he shot 37%.

Op is a nick wright misleading ass fakkit :facepalm

[Marchesk]

Weird that Westbrook hasn't been mentioned once in this thread.

That's right, a modern day TPD MVP guard who shoots 24% from three this year. And the Rockets, of all teams, traded for him.

[Vino24]

Weird that Westbrook hasn't been mentioned once in this thread.

That's right, a modern day TPD MVP guard who shoots 24% from three this year. And the Rockets, of all teams, traded for him.
Westbrook is basically a modern day MJ with a better motor. Both have comparable 3pt shots

[tontoz]

Derozan's career average is 10 ppg fewer than Jordan in a stat friendly era on worse efficiency. Lebron stans must be getting desperate. :lol

Jordan had 4 seasons taking 3 shots per game from 3 shooting at least 35%. Derozan has never done it, or even gotten close.

Jordan had 4 straight seasons averaging over 30 ppg with a TS of at least 60%. Derozan has never averaged over 30 OR had a TS of 60%. Never gotten close on either stat.




https://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g195/tontoz/sucks8.jpg (http://s56.photobucket.com/user/tontoz/media/sucks8.jpg.html)

[Hittin_Shots]

Are the first 3 pages the same guy, has he now made 2 anti LeBron accounts to argue both sides with himself as well as the guy just to attack everyone of his other accounts? This guy batshit crazy?

[SpaceJam2]

1.6% career difference,

He is 28% without his 2 WNBA seasons..

28%

1000 attempts
28%

[SpaceJam2]

Oh really heres some facts.

Playoffs(regular line):
Mj- 39%
Bron- 33%

Mj in the post season was actually worse a from the shorten line (32%). In his prime years through his first three peat mj shot 39% from the regular three point line each year. The following season when the line was shortened he shot 37%.

Op is a nick wright misleading ass fakkit :facepalm

You appear upset to read a fact, are you okay today?

MJ and DeRozan are both career 28% 3 point shooters over large sample

MJ, 1000 attempts (taking out 95, 96 and 97 for WNBA distance)
28%

Not a joke. Look it up

[Bronbron23]

You appear upset to read a fact, are you okay today?

MJ and DeRozan are both career 28% 3 point shooters over large sample

MJ, 1000 attempts (taking out 95, 96 and 97 for WNBA distance)
28%

Not a joke. Look it up
Thats cool i believe you. So we're in agreement.

Lebron was better grom three in the meaningless regular season and mj was better in the meaningful postseason. :cheers:

[KD7]

Oh really heres some facts.

Playoffs(regular line):
Mj- 39%
Bron- 33%

Mj in the post season was actually worse a from the shorten line (32%). In his prime years through his first three peat mj shot 39% from the regular three point line each year. The following season when the line was shortened he shot 37%.

Op is a nick wright misleading ass fakkit :facepalm
MJ shot 33% from 3 in the playoffs

And 40% in the 96 playoffs with a shortened line

Where are you getting your stats from

[SpaceJam2]

Thats cool i believe you. So we're in agreement.

Lebron was better grom three in the meaningless regular season and mj was better in the meaningful postseason. :cheers:


Careful on ANY post season #s :lol

LeBron has all the records

6900 pts
420 stls
12 game winners

1st, 1st, 1st

:lol :D

[SpaceJam2]

MJ shot 33% from 3 in the playoffs

And 40% in the 96 playoffs with a shortened line

Where are you getting your stats from

He is a moron, 3ball (obviously)

Easiest way to know is made up stats :lol

[andgar923]

Who cares about the 3 :confusedshrug:

MJ would be carving up today's defense and scoring at will in the paint. MJ's game was never based on 3pt shooting.

Again, we see what Kawhi is doing in today's era as an example. MJ would be Kawhi on steroids, as MJ was simply better in every aspect but significantly more explosive. It'd be a dunk drill for MJ today.

[Manny98]

Who cares about the 3 :confusedshrug:

MJ would be carving up today's defense and scoring at will in the paint. MJ's game was never based on 3pt shooting.

Again, we see what Kawhi is doing in today's era as an example. MJ would be Kawhi on steroids, as MJ was simply better in every aspect but significantly more explosive. It'd be a dunk drill for MJ today.
Kawhi can actually shoot from outside :oldlol:

[And1AllDay]

Who cares about the 3 :confusedshrug:

MJ would be carving up today's defense and scoring at will in the paint. MJ's game was never based on 3pt shooting.

Again, we see what Kawhi is doing in today's era as an example. MJ would be Kawhi on steroids, as MJ was simply better in every aspect but significantly more explosive. It'd be a dunk drill for MJ today.

dumb

kawhi is a great defender, mike is just average

kawhi can shoot the 3, mike cannot

terrible comparison

[And1AllDay]

Kawhi can actually shoot from outside :oldlol:


and defend! mike never had better defense then pippen or rodman

never the team defense stopper go to guy

never ever

[RealSkipBayless]

and defend! mike never had better defense then pippen or rodman

never the team defense stopper go to guy

never ever
6 finals runs
0/24 series the Bulls faced a team with more all defensive players, 0%

21/24, or 87.5% of series they faces teams with less all defensive players.

3/24 series, or 12.5% of the time they faced teams with "equal"⁴ all defensive players.

Eastern conference series
0/18 series they faced a team with more all defensive players.

16/18 series or 88.8% of the time they faced teams with less all defensive players.

2/18 series or 11.1% of the time they faced teams with "equal"⁴ all defensive players.

[And1AllDay]

6 finals runs
0/24 series the Bulls faced a team with more all defensive players, 0%

21/24, or 87.5% of series they faces teams with less all defensive players.

3/24 series, or 12.5% of the time they faced teams with "equal"⁴ all defensive players.

Eastern conference series
0/18 series they faced a team with more all defensive players.

16/18 series or 88.8% of the time they faced teams with less all defensive players.

2/18 series or 11.1% of the time they faced teams with "equal"⁴ all defensive players.

the post that ended mikes career

:eek:

[Bronbron23]

MJ shot 33% from 3 in the playoffs

And 40% in the 96 playoffs with a shortened line

Where are you getting your stats from
Pay attention dude. I said from the regular three point line so you have to take out the 3 years with the shortened one. So to answer your qustion i got my stats from mj in the playoffs from 86 to 93 and then his last playoffs in 98.

[Bronbron23]

He is a moron, 3ball (obviously)

Easiest way to know is made up stats :lol
You can keep calling me 3ball and you can keep lying and say theyre made up ststs but its facts dude. A dare you or anyone else to look it up yourself and get back to me

[KD7]

Pay attention dude. I said from the regular three point line so you have to take out the 3 years with the shortened one. So to answer your qustion i got my stats from mj in the playoffs from 86 to 93 and then his last playoffs in 98.
I just calculated, in the playoffs without a shortened line MJ made 110 out of 317 3 point attempts which would equal to just under 35%

No idea where you got 39% from since he never shot 39% in a single playoff run except for in 96 but that was with a shortened line

[SpaceJam2]

I just calculated, in the playoffs without a shortened line MJ made 110 out of 317 3 point attempts which would equal to just under 35%

No idea where you got 39% from since he never shot 39% in a single playoff run except for in 96 but that was with a shortened line

Dude he is 3ball

Thars why his stats are ALWAYS fake af and wrong

[Bronbron23]

I just calculated, in the playoffs without a shortened line MJ made 110 out of 317 3 point attempts which would equal to just under 35%

No idea where you got 39% from since he never shot 39% in a single playoff run except for in 96 but that was with a shortened line
Well technically thats not true. He shot 100% in 86 but i admit thats an outlier but so would 12% in 85 so even if you take out those first 2 years hed still be around 36 or 37% which is still higher than brons.

That said bron does shoot more threes though so all in all its pretty close. My point wasnt even to say .j is a better three point shooter. It was just to highlight the bs that these bron stans be talking.

[SpaceJam2]

Well technically thats not true. He shot 100% in 86 but i admit thats an outlier but so would 12% in 85 so even if you take out those first 2 years hed still be around 36 or 37% which is still higher than brons.

That said bron does shoot more threes though so all in all its pretty close. My point wasnt even to say .j is a better three point shooter. It was just to highlight the bs that these bron stans be talking.

You're an idiot.

Take his TOTALS from all but 3 WNBA years


Get back to us Einstein :lol

[KD7]

Well technically thats not true. He shot 100% in 86 but i admit thats an outlier but so would 12% in 85 so even if you take out those first 2 years hed still be around 36 or 37% which is still higher than brons.

That said bron does shoot more threes though so all in all its pretty close. My point wasnt even to say .j is a better three point shooter. It was just to highlight the bs that these bron stans be talking.
Um.. he only attempted 1 pointer in the 86 playoffs :lol

So let's take off his first 2 seasons for the sake of the argument

Now it's 108 out of 308 from 3 which still equals 35%

[SpaceJam2]

Um.. he only attempted 1 pointer in the 86 playoffs :lol

So let's take off his first 2 seasons for the sake of the argument

Now it's 108 out of 308 from 3 which still equals 35%


Exactly. So again


Where the fook does he get 39%? :lol

3ball sTaTs bRo

[3ball]

6 finals runs
0/24 series the Bulls faced a team with more all defensive players, 0%

21/24, or 87.5% of series they faces teams with less all defensive players.

3/24 series, or 12.5% of the time they faced teams with "equal"⁴ all defensive players.

Eastern conference series
0/18 series they faced a team with more all defensive players.

16/18 series or 88.8% of the time they faced teams with less all defensive players.

2/18 series or 11.1% of the time they faced teams with "equal"⁴ all defensive players.
nonsense stats because MJ is one of the all-defensive players, so that gives the bulls 1 more than say, Malone's Jazz, or Kemp's Sonics.

MJ being an all-defensive player himself gave the Bulls more all-defenders than teams that just have 1

[SpaceJam2]

nonsense stats because MJ is one of the all-defensive players, so that gives the bulls 1 more than say, Malone's Jazz, or Kemp's Sonics.

MJ being an all-defensive player himself gave the Bulls more all-defenders than teams that just have 1

:roll:

This is about also having...

PIPPEN & RODMAN

Focus :lol

[KD7]

Exactly. So again


Where the fook does he get 39%? :lol

3ball sTaTs bRo
No idea :lol

[3ball]

Dude he is 3ball

Thars why his stats are ALWAYS fake af and wrong
my stats are never wrong

[3ball]

:roll:

This is about also having...

PIPPEN & RODMAN

Focus :lol
again, bogus stats - mj is one of the all-defenders

and rodman wasn't all-defense in 97' or 98', so the stats are wrong - are they linked? that's what I thought - some fool did them by hand without showing his work

[SpaceJam2]

my stats are never wrong

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Just like MJ NEVA LOST

:lol

[SpaceJam2]

again, bogus stats - mj is one of the all-defenders

and rodman wasn't all-defense in 97' or 98', so the stats are wrong - are they linked? that's what I thought - some fool did them by hand without showing his work

Would MJ survive modern era shooting 28% like DeMar shooting 28%?

[3ball]

Exactly. So again


Where the fook does he get 39%? :lol

3ball sTaTs bRo
MJ shot 38.9% on 3.8 attempts in the 1993 playoffs and 40.0% on 4.2 attempts in the Finals that year

Before MJ was 35-years old, MJ shot well anytime he took over 1.5 attempts - look it up - he was a much better 3-point shooter than Lebron anytime he took the shot (anytime he had real volume other than bailouts at the end of shot clocks)

so again, what are MJ's percentages anytime he took over 1.5 attempts and wasn't a fossil age-wise?... regular season or playoffs... I'll wait..

[KD7]

MJ shot 38.9% on 3.8 attempts in the 1993 playoffs and 40.0% on 4.2 attempts in the Finals that year

Before MJ was 35-years old, MJ shot well anytime he took over 1.5 attempts - look it up - he was a much better 3-point shooter than Lebron anytime he took the shot (anytime he had real volume other than bailouts at the end of shot clocks)

so again, what are MJ's percentages anytime he took over 1.5 attempts and wasn't a fossil age-wise?... regular season or playoffs... I'll wait..
It's still around 35% no matter how you try and cherry pick :oldlol:

[SpaceJam2]

It's still around 35% no matter how you try and cherry pick :oldlol:

He is a big-time nut. He will cherry-pick, THEN roundup to benefit himself, and round down to exclude others.

[Bronbron23]

Um.. he only attempted 1 pointer in the 86 playoffs :lol

So let's take off his first 2 seasons for the sake of the argument

Now it's 108 out of 308 from 3 which still equals 35%
Yeah thats true i didnt bother adding it up i figured it be 36 or 37 but its irrelevant. The point of it all was that mj was actually a pretty good three point shooter when it mattered. Even at 35 thats still higher than bron.

[Bronbron23]

You're an idiot.

Take his TOTALS from all but 3 WNBA years


Get back to us Einstein :lol
What? Dude take your medication. The hole thing was based on mj benefitting from the shortened three point years so i took that out.

[Bronbron23]

Exactly. So again


Where the fook does he get 39%? :lol

3ball sTaTs bRo
And i know your slow but the 39% came from all his playoff three point percentages without the three point line. I took out the "wnba years" because you insinuated that mj needed the shortened line to be able to shoot efficiently from 3 when in fact he shot better from the regular three point line and shot a higher percentage than bron.

Get it now?

[3ball]

It's still around 35% no matter how you try and cherry pick :oldlol:
MJ shot 35.2% on 2.1 attempts in the 85-93' playoffs

then the line was shortened from 95-97', so who cares about those years

then he was old as shit in 1998 and thereafter

again, anytime he took more than 1.5 attempts, he shot well, except for when he turned 35 or so

[KD7]

MJ shot 35.2% on 2.1 attempts in the 85-93' playoffs

then the line was shortened from 95-97', so who cares about those years

then he was old as shit in 1998 and thereafter

again, anytime he took more than 1.5 attempts, he shot well, except for when he turned 35 or so
35% off only 2.5 attempts a game is absolutely terrible :roll:

To put into perspective Harden is currently averaging 37% off 14 attempts a game :eek:

[3ball]

35% off only 2.5 attempts a game is absolutely terrible :roll:

To put into perspective Harden is currently averaging 37% off 14 attempts a game :eek:
bird shot 34.9% on 1.3 attempts from 80-87'

mj shot 35.2% on 2.1 attempts from 85-93'

the league simply didn't shoot threes back then - but both bird/mj would be elite 3-point shooters today

harden wouldn't have shot 3's back then either

[Bronbron23]

35% off only 2.5 attempts a game is absolutely terrible :roll:

To put into perspective Harden is currently averaging 37% off 14 attempts a game :eek:
How is it terrible? It wasnt his biggest strength. Midrange, post and driving was. He didnt have to rely on the 3. Whats terrible is someone like bron who shoots a less percentage than 35% shooting a shit ton of threes because the rest of his game isnt developed enough. How often have you seen lebron dribble,dribble, dribble only to bail the defence out to take a tough step back three. Thats whats terrible.

[tpols]

Harden lathers himself into his 3's with like 12 dribbles.

He's probably the most direct affront to teamwork ever.

Could win a title on a fluke getting hot... but it will never be a dynasty.

3's are fools gold if you have to take that many dribbles to make them.

[KD7]

How is it terrible? It wasnt his biggest strength. Midrange, post and driving was. He didnt have to rely on the 3. Whats terrible is someone like bron who shoots a less percentage than 35% shooting a shit ton of threes because the rest of his game isnt developed enough. How often have you seen lebron dribble,dribble, dribble only to bail the defence out to take a tough step back three. Thats whats terrible.
Yet LeBron has a higher true shooting percentage in the regular season and playoffs than MJ

[Bronbron23]

Yet LeBron has a higher true shooting percentage in the regular season and playoffs than MJ
Yeah because up until the last few years lebron played mostly to his strengths. Hes very good at letting scoring come to him. He didnt force shots as much like kobe and somewhat mj. He'd get to the hole as much as he could because lebron going downhill is pretty much unstoppable. Part of mj forcing more shots was a necessity. Mj had to shoulder a bigger scoring load than bron did. Even with that he still shot a great percentage. When bron has been forced to shoot more like mj his efficiency dropped big time. Just look at the 15 playoffs. He didnt have the scoring help because of injuries so he had to become a volume scorer and 40% shooting was the result.

[3ball]

Harden lathers himself into his 3's with like 12 dribbles.

He's probably the most direct affront to teamwork ever.

Could win a title on a fluke getting hot... but it will never be a dynasty.

3's are fools gold if you have to take that many dribbles to make them.
Agree

however, I think teams can get "randomly hot" for a game..

but getting "randomly hot" for multiple games or a whole series doesn't seem statistically likely or even make sense.. teams get hot because their feeling good/optimistic and/or winning/know they're about to be winning

[RealSkipBayless]

Yeah because up until the last few years lebron played mostly to his strengths. Hes very good at letting scoring come to him. He didnt force shots as much like kobe and somewhat mj. He'd get to the hole as much as he could because lebron going downhill is pretty much unstoppable. Part of mj forcing more shots was a necessity. Mj had to shoulder a bigger scoring load than bron did. Even with that he still shot a great percentage. When bron has been forced to shoot more like mj his efficiency dropped big time. Just look at the 15 playoffs. He didnt have the scoring help because of injuries so he had to become a volume scorer and 40% shooting was the result.
Unfortunately, Lebron wasn't guarded by the likes of Danny Ainge, and Jeff Hornacek.

[3ball]

Unfortunately, Lebron wasn't guarded by the likes of Danny Ainge, and Jeff Hornacek.
he was guarded by guys that would be a mismatch vs MJ, like Diaw or Draymond

can you imagine Diaw or Draymond guarding MJ?... it's no different than them guarding Harden or Westbrook - it wouldn't happen

[Rico2016]

Unfortunately, Lebron wasn't guarded by the likes of Danny Ainge, and Jeff Hornacek.

Very true. I dont think MJ would survice 2004+ bball. 90s Yes Sure. But Now? No.

[Bronbron23]

Unfortunately, Lebron wasn't guarded by the likes of Danny Ainge, and Jeff Hornacek.
Right this after lebron getting contained by 6'3 Achilles torn mathews and 6'1 pat bev. Pat bevs were a dime a dozen in the 90's btw. He only stands out defensively now because of the soft era.

[RealSkipBayless]

Right this after lebron getting contained by 6'3 Achilles torn mathews and 6'1 pat bev. Pat bevs were a dime a dozen in the 90's btw. He only stands out defensively now because of the soft era.
And Kawhi recently got locked up by Joe Ingles and Jordan Clarkson...

[Bronbron23]

And Kawhi recently got locked up by Joe Ingles and Jordan Clarkson...
Thats fair. Im sure every player has had relatively mediocre games vs average defenders. Thats kind of my point with this whole shit. Singling mj out because he was gaurded by average defenders from time to time is just stupid when every other player has delt with the same.

[SamuraiSWISH]

Are the first 3 pages the same guy, has he now made 2 anti LeBron accounts to argue both sides with himself as well as the guy just to attack everyone of his other accounts? This guy batshit crazy?
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[Real14]

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[Shooter]

a guard that shoots 28% from 3?

would he even start?

Ya hate to see it

[AirBonner]

He would be similar to tony Allen

[kawhileonard2]

MJ would go ham on this league that a virus worse than would Covid-19 would have to develop to stop him.

[AirBonner]

MJ would go ham on this league that a virus worse than would Covid-19 would have to develop to stop him.

He struggled against modern defense

[Shooter]

MJ would go ham on this league that a virus worse than would Covid-19 would have to develop to stop him.

28% on 1000 shots yikes

[light]

Jordan would survive. People would just say that his game is incomplete and that he needs to work on his shot.

[kawhileonard2]

Shot 44% from 3 one year and 38% another. That's really good!

[AirBonner]

Aldridge shot insanely from midrange in the previous playoffs but still got decimated because 3 > 2

MJ would suffer similar results

[LAmbruh]

Shot 44% from 3 one year and 38% another. That's really good!

Girl Scout 3pt line

[kawhileonard2]

44% from 3 in the NBA is 44% in the NBA.

[Shooter]

Girl Scout 3pt line

:roll:


Gottem :lol Lil tykes years dont count :lol

[warriorfan]

Would this forum be better if asian spammers who constantly bump their own shitposts were banned?

Yes.

[MrFonzworth]

Would this forum be better if asian spammers who constantly bump their own shitposts were banned?

Yes.

You know I'm not any of these guys right?

[warriorfan]

You know I'm not any of these guys right?

Yes. By Asian I’m not talking about race I’m talking about guys literally posting from Asia shitposting it up in little fishing boats and shit.

[Lion's pride]

Bird Over Jordan for any ERA.. Bird would average 40p when encouraged to Bomb away in this ERA.