Coach K: In 2008, Kobe was the alpha dog of that team. [Archive] - Message Board Basketball Forum

AirTupac

11-08-2019, 12:06 PM

Bill Simmons:

[QUOTE]"I can't let the Gold-Medal Game go. USA 118, Spain 107. One of the 10 most dramatic basketball games of my lifetime.

Third, for most of the Games, Team USA had an alpha dog issue. Was this Kobe's team or LeBron's? Fast-forward to 8:13 left: Fern

Dr Hawk

11-08-2019, 12:11 PM

That is common knowledge

DoctorP

11-08-2019, 12:12 PM

https://media1.tenor.com/images/5f70882441c60dfe79e67de111ecb0a4/tenor.gif

AirTupac

11-08-2019, 12:15 PM

That is common knowledge

Wait till you see the responses in this thread bro. They'll deny it :oldlol:

FKAri

11-08-2019, 12:21 PM

Pretty clear to see what's happening here. Not sure if this came first from Coach K or everyone reached the conclusion independently but they all learned how to avoid what happened in the 2004 finals. Kobe's fragile ego needs to be coddled and catered to in order for him to not have a complete meltdown and destroy a team from the inside with his glory hunting. Like repeatedly telling a dog that he's been a "good boy". Father a son already you testosterone starved, impotent, pathetic, husk of a man.

Thank you for your time. :cheers:

AlternativeAcc.

11-08-2019, 12:25 PM

It was a forced role by Kobe, hes a me me me guy. He relished being the 'alpha' dog of a team with a huge disparity in talent compared to other teams. He wasn't close to being the best player or anything, but being the elder to the other stars of the time and having that selfish mentality obviously manifested itself in him taking some late game shots.

Means literally nothing in the grand scheme of things, but you're an autistic loser so of course you made a thread about this and thought you had some good material.

Go outside.

sportjames23

11-08-2019, 12:27 PM

AirTupac

11-08-2019, 12:33 PM

ISH'ers denying Coach K and other NBA heads and the players on the 08 team itself :roll: :roll: :roll:

These kids are such losers. Writing paragraphs to convince other ISH posters of lies. Amazing loser life.

Hey Yo

11-08-2019, 12:37 PM

:cry: "love my Kobe" :cry:

https://media0.giphy.com/media/fxVfzwgh78K9a/giphy.gif

DoctorP

11-08-2019, 12:44 PM

but would Kobe son Cavs Bran?

probably. Bran needed Kyrie to close

Kobes a closer, Bran not so much. no

red1

11-08-2019, 01:11 PM

lebron improved after 2008. mostly defense. wade was better than both.

FKAri

11-08-2019, 01:29 PM

Why you so salty, breh?
I am simply a meticulous basketball historian providing insight.

Haymaker

11-08-2019, 02:08 PM

Yeah Kobe was clutch but he played poorly most of the tournament.

superduper

11-08-2019, 02:15 PM

Sorry OP I watched on paper

ronniec

11-08-2019, 03:11 PM

Great players also are human, they have ups and downs like everybody else.

Having a stretch of bad games/bad shooting streak has no correlation to their abilities to accept responsibilities and taking the lead as alpha under pressure.

Mr Feeny

11-08-2019, 03:19 PM

So where was he in the player of the tournament votes?
How many points did he have in that game?

Why did he trail wade in both?:lol

IllegalD

11-08-2019, 03:24 PM

So where was he in the player of the tournament votes?
How many points did he have in that game?

Why did he trail wade in both?:lol

By your stoopid logic then Barkley was the best player on the Dream Team and not Jordan. :lol

Mr Feeny

11-08-2019, 03:37 PM

By your stoopid logic then Barkley was the best player on the Dream Team and not Jordan. :lol

"Stoopid"

Read enough, there:lol

AirTupac

11-08-2019, 04:56 PM

By your stoopid logic then Barkley was the best player on the Dream Team and not Jordan. :lol

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

ImKobe

11-08-2019, 05:12 PM

By your stoopid logic then Barkley was the best player on the Dream Team and not Jordan. :lol

:lol :lol

These losers and their mental gymnastics.

warriorfan

11-08-2019, 05:16 PM

Big Dick Alpha Kobe

3ball

11-08-2019, 05:30 PM

"...in the history of the NBA we have never had the best-player-alive argument resolved so organically"

My point exactly - on a neutral court, with neutral rules, it was Kobe's infinite skillset and elite ability in all areas that found a way to exploit the opponent's armour - accordingly, he was the only guy capable of, or the best guy suited to lead the team to victory

inherently better than Lebron, and back in 2008 it was on full display

scuzzy

11-08-2019, 05:39 PM

And yet on a neutral court, with neutral rules, having identical teammates vs same opponents

It was young Lebron and Wade who vastly outshined prime Kobe all tournament, not once but twice (London)

LAmbruh

11-08-2019, 05:48 PM

I suppose if 10 minutes of rare play in a 8 game tourney gets you participation buzzwords like alpha, then Leon Powe is the 2008 alpha FMVP

AirTupac

11-08-2019, 05:58 PM

Coach of USA thanks Kobe for saving his job. LITERALLY. In direct quotes. And these guys are writing fairytales to save face :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

kuniva_dAMiGhTy

11-08-2019, 06:00 PM

Kobe fam eating good.

REAAAAL GOOD.

Lebron fans should just worry about their guy making the playoffs. Out west. Baby steps :lol

ArbitraryWater

11-08-2019, 06:18 PM

yea but, who cares dawg?

This what Kobe fans feeding off of?

LMAO

AirTupac

11-08-2019, 06:19 PM

yea but, who cares dawg?

This what Kobe fans feeding off of?

LMAO

Just one of the GOAT coaches saying in a group of the most talented NBA athletes, Kobe carried them?

What do LeBron fans have? Wheels/Simon spam on ISH? :applause: :applause: :applause:

ArbitraryWater

11-08-2019, 06:34 PM

Just one of the GOAT coaches saying in a group of the most talented NBA athletes, Kobe carried them?

What do LeBron fans have? Wheels/Simon spam on ISH? :applause: :applause: :applause:

Kobe was the "alpha dog" of the USA team at his peak with no other Superstar at theirs...

big W :ohwell:

AirTupac

11-08-2019, 06:48 PM

The entire team was in their prime loser :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

Dwight, Bosh, Carmelo, LeBron, Deron Williams, Bosh, Tayshaun, Michael Redd. LeBron was almost MVP then. Maybe not his best year of his career, but 08 was one of his best lmfao.

"Everyone looked to Kobe in the crunch time" :lol :lol :lol

knicksman

11-08-2019, 07:09 PM

without kobe, lebron will never have a gold.

Hey Yo

11-08-2019, 07:43 PM

Just one of the GOAT coaches saying in a group of the most talented NBA athletes, Kobe carried them?

What do LeBron fans have? Wheels/Simon spam on ISH? :applause: :applause: :applause:
speaking of GOAT coaches

"In his book, The Last Season, Jackson criticized Kobe, calling him un-coachable and revealing that he told the Lakers to trade him away.

:roll:

AirTupac

11-08-2019, 07:59 PM

speaking of GOAT coaches

"In his book, The Last Season, Jackson criticized Kobe, calling him un-coachable and revealing that he told the Lakers to trade him away.

:roll:

Even though Kobe Bryant and Phil Jackson won five NBA titles together during their time with the Lakers, they didn't always see eye-to-eye. In fact, Jackson called Kobe "uncoachable" in his 2004 book.

> Agrees to coach Kobe again
> Wins 2 more rings
> Disregards what he said in 2004 because Kobe evolved.

Not only do you have to lie but you got proven wrong. LeBron fans with their fairytales lmao. Absolute scum

Kiddlovesnets

11-08-2019, 08:00 PM

Though not clear cut, Kobe was indeed the best player in 2008, so this is rightfully deserved.

Hey Yo

11-08-2019, 08:30 PM

Even though Kobe Bryant and Phil Jackson won five NBA titles together during their time with the Lakers, they didn't always see eye-to-eye. In fact, Jackson called Kobe "uncoachable" in his 2004 book.

> Agrees to coach Kobe again
> Wins 2 more rings
> Disregards what he said in 2004 because Kobe evolved.

Not only do you have to lie but you got proven wrong. LeBron fans with their fairytales lmao. Absolute scum
I lied and was proven wrong???

So Phil didnt say Kobe was un-coachable? He didnt want to trade him??

What was I wrong about, Chico?

PickernRoller

11-08-2019, 08:42 PM

By your stoopid logic then Barkley was the best player on the Dream Team and not Jordan. :lol

:oldlol: :oldlol:

AirTupac

11-08-2019, 08:44 PM

I lied and was proven wrong???

So Phil didnt say Kobe was un-coachable? He didnt want to trade him??

What was I wrong about, Chico?

So cringe :facepalm

PickernRoller

11-08-2019, 08:47 PM

So cringe :facepalm

Careful with him, he may force you to prove him wrong, or else.... :lol

Vino24

11-08-2019, 09:29 PM

Coach K:

plowking

11-08-2019, 09:46 PM

Yet Wade was the best player in the final.

NBASTATMAN

11-08-2019, 10:53 PM

If Rudy Fernandez wasnt shitting on kobe all game we would have never needed Kobe to come up big. People forget that it was Wade who was the best player in that game.. People also forget that we were leading by double digits and Kobe kept turning the ball over and let SPAIN back into that game...

On a positive note for Kobe he came up big and so did Wade in that finals game in 2008.. Take a look at 2012 and it was LEBRON taking over in the fourth quarter of a close game.. Both Lebron and Kobe did what they were supposed to do.. :rockon: