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MoBe1Kanobi
08-20-2019, 07:06 AM
.. is that he took basketball so cotdam serious and was so damn hyper vigilant over his career about maintaining his "fearless killer" image that secretly he is terrified deep down at the thought of even ONCE coming off as a choker and the universe kind of spitting in his face and basically treating him like just another run of the mill SG despite everything he poured into the game. That's the kind of pressure he puts on himself to make legendary looking game winners.. he takes tough shots at the end of the game primarily because in the legendary movie about Kobe's life that Kobe lives to create within his own head, he makes legendary looking fadeaway game winning jump shots every time.

Kobe highly bought into the concept that hard work = success so because of that he decided early on to be the hardest working player ever simultaneously dismissing the idea that even the hardest workers aren't guaranteed success, especially in situations where you cannot simply outwork your way to a successful outcome. And this is where his statistical success on buzzer beaters come into play. I've studied Kobe since I was little. You can tell that even as a grown man he was the kind of guy to secretly practice his buzzer beating GW shots with all kinds of pretending and a childlike sense of imagination at play, all in private during his workouts. But with all that practice comes added pressure. Imagine the type of person who studies over and over for a test that is practically impossible to prepare for. Imagine this person. You and this person and everyone all knows that it is impossible to know ahead of time what to do but despite it all... This person is still training incessantly on how to succeed for this unknown. Which is morally admirable and typically the smart thing to do. But when it comes to last second shots, you can't really practice yourself into becoming a clutch God. I believe that has more to do with pyschological factors and luck than actual work ethic. Some of the laziest people I've seen in my life are clutch AF when it comes to the hoop court, not usually since they are too lazy to have enough skill to make a shot regardless of the moment but moreso because they don't have to deal with the self made expectations that come with being known as the hardest worker. The fact that this exists proves that clutchness doesn't really have much to do with practice or work ethic.

Anyways, now am I calling Kobe NOT clutch? Hell no.

But I would be disingenuous if I didn't admit that even Le****ingChoke James somehow has more playoff buzzer beaters than Kobe assassin Bean Bryant, along with a few other players you shouldn't expect to see above him.

And why is LeBron, a known choke artist and beta, seemingly more successful than Kobe, especially when it comes to the amounts of playoff buzzer beaters made? Because he has no expectations and he KNOWS that even if he misses it, NOBODY expects him to make it because he doesn't portray himself as the ultimate assassin clutch God killer type. And is that really something good? Eh, I'd say no... But the results say, why add the extra pressure? Why make yourself a target? Why make yourself even easier to stop by letting the defense know that you HAVE to absolutely take the shot NO MATTER WHAT. I agree, as the man and alpha of the team, this mentality is admirable. But from a tactical standpoint, this mentality makes you easier to stop in huge moments..

So basically, we have two guys

One guy we know deep down is a choker, but has more big time successful shots in the playoffs because his choker/beta mentality has freed him from the added weight and expectations that come with working hard

Whereas

The other guy we know deep down is a ruthless killer, because he was raised to be one and has developed such an unreasonable and unrealistic expectation for himself due to an unreasonable and unrealistic work ethic that could never duplicate itself in it's results. No matter how hard he works, it is impossible to have a clutch resume that can equally reflect how hard he's worked to make impossible buzzer beaters. Too much luck is involved in these situations for there to be any comparable relationship between work ethic and clutch time success.

And that lack of return payment can damage a player at the end of a game. There is a point where being too aware of the moment and it's importance damages a player and sometimes, just sometimes, having a rock level IQ can be a good thing(lbj) since at that point you're too small minded to even care about what clutch situations you might be in and how huge of a moment that can be that you are currently experiencing.

aj1987
08-20-2019, 07:13 AM
What the **** did I just read?

LAmbruh
08-20-2019, 07:20 AM
Kobe had lots of weaknesses but that's not what makes him the 12th greatest player all time


The reason he's universally recognized as consensus 12th is because they're 11 other greater basketball players that are better

sportjames23
08-20-2019, 07:46 AM
Kobe had lots of weaknesses but that's not what makes him the 12th greatest player all time


The reason he's universally recognized as consensus 12th is because they're 11 other greater basketball players that are better

MJ
Kareem
Wilt
Russell
Magic
Bird
Shaq
Duncan
Hakeem


I only came up with 9. :confusedshrug:

bison
08-20-2019, 08:54 AM
MJ
Kareem
Wilt
Russell
Magic
Bird
Shaq
Duncan
Hakeem


I only came up with 9. :confusedshrug:

I would take out Duncan, Shaq and Hakeem for sure. Makes it 6 now.

SouBeachTalents
08-20-2019, 09:07 AM
MJ
Kareem
Wilt
Russell
Magic
Bird
Shaq
Duncan
Hakeem


I only came up with 9. :confusedshrug:
You forgot one

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Mr. Jabbar
08-20-2019, 09:07 AM
I would take out Duncan, Shaq and Hakeem for sure. Makes it 6 now.

6thbe

sdot_thadon
08-20-2019, 10:36 AM
Boy, that was a really long way of saying Kobe's more clutch in the regular season and Lebron's more clutch in the postseason.

superduper
08-20-2019, 10:37 AM
Kobe had lots of weaknesses but that's not what makes him the 12th greatest player all time


The reason he's universally recognized as consensus 12th is because they're 11 other greater basketball players that are better

Manny what are you talking about? You have Kobe 10th, ahead of Bran.

sportjames23
08-20-2019, 10:46 AM
You forgot one

https://i.postimg.cc/wTqLqW76/Sport-James-Owned.png


You forgot deez nuts, bitch.

Vino24
08-20-2019, 10:48 AM
Kobe

superduper
08-20-2019, 10:51 AM
[QUOTE=Vino24]Kobe

Manny98
08-20-2019, 10:54 AM
Kobes biggest weakness was LeBron

16-6 eat shit Kobetards :oldlol:

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superduper
08-20-2019, 11:03 AM
Kobes biggest weakness was LeBron

16-6 eat shit Kobetards :oldlol:

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But you have Kobe ranked higher than Bran?



1. MJ
2.Kareem
3. Shaq
4. Hakeem
5. Russell
6. Wilt
7. Duncan
8. Magic
9. Bird
10. Kobe
11. Lebron

He's not top 10 but definitely top 20

sportjames23
08-20-2019, 11:24 AM
But you have Kobe ranked higher than Bran?


Got. Him.

Manny98
08-20-2019, 11:25 AM
You forgot one

https://i.postimg.cc/wTqLqW76/Sport-James-Owned.png
This never gets old :oldlol:

superduper
08-20-2019, 11:26 AM
This never gets old :oldlol:

Neither will this



1. MJ
2.Kareem
3. Shaq
4. Hakeem
5. Russell
6. Wilt
7. Duncan
8. Magic
9. Bird
10. Kobe
11. Lebron

He's not top 10 but definitely top 20

MoBe1Kanobi
08-20-2019, 12:03 PM
Boy, that was a really long way of saying Kobe's more clutch in the regular season and Lebron's more clutch in the postseason.

No, what I wrote was basically the explanation as to why Kobe appears to be less clutch statistically than people who are obviously much less clutch than him and how tricky the idea of clutchness is and why "killers"' should be placed in a completely separate category of clutchness than guys who just happen to hit a big shot buzzer beaters a couple times

Also I explained how end of game shots are basically the one single play in basketball that doesn't follow the rest of the game or the flow of the game at all and that the difference and toughness between hitting a shot with 3 minutes in the game and hitting a shot to end the game are so completely different that they might as well be two different sports. The last second buzzer beater is so much more different offensively and defensively compared to the rest of the game that analyzing a player in the clutch through a statistical measure is practically impossible

sdot_thadon
08-20-2019, 12:09 PM
No, what I wrote was basically the explanation as to why Kobe appears to be less clutch statistically than people who are obviously much less clutch than him and how tricky the idea of clutchness is and why "killers"' should be placed in a completely separate category of clutchness than guys who just happen to hit a big shot buzzer beaters a couple times

Also I explained how end of game shots are basically the one single play in basketball that doesn't follow the rest of the game or the flow of the game at all and that the difference and toughness between hitting a shot with 3 minutes in the game and hitting a shot to end the game are so completely different that they might as well be two different sports. The last second buzzer beater is so much more different offensively and defensively compared to the rest of the game that analyzing a player in the clutch through a statistical measure is practically impossible
Yeah and Kobe has more of those in the regular season,while Lebron has more in the postseason. 2>1, 5>3, etc. Lebron has more makes and at a higher percentage. It is what it is.

MoBe1Kanobi
08-20-2019, 12:50 PM
Yeah and Kobe has more of those in the regular season,while Lebron has more in the postseason. 2>1, 5>3, etc. Lebron has more makes and at a higher percentage. It is what it is.

What do you take from the fact that LeBron has more playoff GWs at a better FG percentage?

Cuz I explained what I take from it, but I'm not sure what you're getting from it