The day Kukoc shit on Pippen

[egokiller]

https://youtu.be/XOJEoPA88NY

Never forget.

[PickernRoller]

Threat title is the wrong take but yeah, Pippen, as great as he was, wasn't a true alpha male.

[egokiller]

Take is correct.

Pippen acted like a bitch and sat on the bench quitting on his team so kukoc made the shot and shit on him, essentially saying don

[stalkerforlife]

Jackson looked like such a boss as he strolled along after the shot.

The ultimate "I told your ass."

[Jay-B]

Remember watching this live like it was yesterday. There was a fight this game too looooooool derek Harper got thrown towards the telecast/stands

[Vino24]

better that then a CEO :lol

[Mr Feeny]

Kukoc was the much better offensive player. There is no way I'm trusting Pippen with the ball in that situation when the season hung in the balance. He may have been the best Bulls player in 94, but he wasn't the same offensive player that Kukoc was, and definitely wasn't the shooter Kukoc was.

[90sgoat]

Phil would have made Kyrie take those shots over Bran every time.

[3ball]

Kukoc shit on Pippen

But then Pippen said "if I can't be the star, then ain't NOBODY winning"

He then proceeded to commit a junior high mistake by fouling a 3-point shooter in Game 5, and then choked in Game 7

So three big chokes in that 1 series

Interestingly, he choked big-time in 2000 Game 7 by not scoring down the stretch and letting Kobe embarrass him on the clinching play

So he was clearly lost in the clutch without MJ

[tpols]

Kukoc shit on Pippen

But then Pippen said "if I can't be the star, then ain't NOBODY winning"

He then proceeded to commit a junior high mistake by fouling a 3-point shooter in Game 5, and then choked in Game 7

So three big chokes in that 1 series

Interestingly, he choked big-time in 2000 Game 7 by not scoring down the stretch and letting Kobe embarrass him on the clinching play

So he was clearly lost in the clutch without MJ


Kobe was pretty much known for doing that to anybody.

[Manny98]

Kukoc is one of the most underrated players in NBA history

He'd be a legit superstar if it wasn't for Jordan ball

[bigkingsfan]

So he was clearly lost in the clutch without MJ
Name Ordan clutch moment without Pippen

[NBASTATMAN]

Kukoc is one of the most underrated players in NBA history

He'd be a legit superstar if it wasn't for Jordan ball


JORDAN had Kukoc too .. Damn that BULLS TEAM WAS LOADED :wtf:

[egokiller]

Kukoc shit on Pippen

But then Pippen said "if I can't be the star, then ain't NOBODY winning"

He then proceeded to commit a junior high mistake by fouling a 3-point shooter in Game 5, and then choked in Game 7

So three big chokes in that 1 series

Interestingly, he choked big-time in 2000 Game 7 by not scoring down the stretch and letting Kobe embarrass him on the clinching play

So he was clearly lost in the clutch without MJ

The fact that MJ had to play with such a beta player in Pippen and still go 6/6 is just one of the most amazing feats in the history of the game. How did he do it?! :confusedshrug:

[Mr Feeny]

Kobe was pretty much known for doing that to anybody.

Kobe is well known for his struggles on the biggest stage. 40% finals scorer and a 39%elimination game scorer. In finals game 7's, he's even worse. A 25% scorer.

[GimmeThat]

so Bob Knight did the right thing grabbing Neil Reed's neck at the collegiate level right.

clearly the law states they are still wearing diapers and not responsible for all sh*ts

[Phoenix]

Kukoc is one of the most underrated players in NBA history

He'd be a legit superstar if it wasn't for Jordan ball

So Pippen became a superstar( all-NBA, Olympian) under 'Jordan ball', but Kukoc couldn't? Kukoc was a talented player but soft as charmin, he wasn't a lead dog type on a team that would have done anything in the NBA. 'Jordan ball' got Kukoc 3 championships he's not likely to have otherwise, as least not as the best or 2nd best player on a team. He was a '3rd best player on a championship team' level talent in the NBA.

[Manny98]

So Pippen became a superstar( all-NBA, Olympian) under 'Jordan ball', but Kukoc couldn't? Kukoc was a talented player but soft as charmin, he wasn't a lead dog type on a team that would have done anything in the NBA. 'Jordan ball' got Kukoc 3 championships he's not likely to have otherwise, as least not as the best or 2nd best player on a team. He was a '3rd best player on a championship team' level talent in the NBA.
Pippen almost won MVP his first season without MJ let that sink in

Kukoc had a highest augmented +/- of the Bulls in the 98 finals, he was the x factor that series

Obviously you Jordan stans will play him off like he's a scrub role player who MJ carried

[Manny98]

JORDAN had Kukoc too .. Damn that BULLS TEAM WAS LOADED :wtf:
He was top 20 in win shares and box plus minus for 3 years straight, his impact was insane

Probably a top 5 6th man in NBA history imo

[Phoenix]

Pippen almost won MVP his first season without MJ let that sink in



You'd have a point that MJ was holding him back if Pippen didn't make an all-star team, all-nba team or the dream team until Jordan left, but he did all of those things and was considered a superstar by 93.....under 'Jordan Ball'. Let that sink in.

Obviously he wouldn't be an MVP candidate playing next to MJ, because he wasn't as good. That's a typical retarded 'non-point' on your end. Magic wasn't going to win MVP when Kareem was is his prime. Kobe wasn't an MVP candidate playing next to peak Shaq. If there's someone 'better' than you on your team then no....you're not going to be in the running for MVP. :hammerhead:

Scottie was a 21/7/7 player in 92....and a 22/9/6 player in 94. His production with MJ was 90% of what it was without him. Let that sink in.

If MJ was holding Kukoc back, then Kukoc had the opportunity to show his mettle in 98/99( he was 30) when the Bull broke up. He average 19/7/5 on 49% TS with the Sixers. Let that sink in.

Kukoc was never more than a complimentary talent in the NBA. He'd have never led a team anywhere as 'the man'. He was the 6th man on the championship team, that's not a scrub....it's simply about the level he actually was on a great team. Yeah you could have stuck him on the Clippers and he'd drop 23/7/7...and they'd win 30 games.

I find the use of 'Jordan ball' funny, considering Scottie Pippen 'ascended' in status and reputation playing next to MJ........while an established top 3 player like D.Wade had his reputation shitted on by c*unts like you for Lebron's failures( 'Wade ball' being the reason Miami lost the 2011 finals per ISH Brantard logic) and had to scale his own game back.

[FKAri]

Except it had nothing to do with taking the last shot and it wasn't a regular benching. Stern was at that game (https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1994-05-14-9405140158-story.html) and he didn't want Scottie becoming a bigger star than he already was and thereby hurt any chance of MJ returning to the Bulls. Knowing MJ's sensitive personality Stern ordered Phil Jackson to bench Scottie and make a play with "the many talented players remaining". That's why Scottie was mad and I would be too.

[superduper]

Except it had nothing to do with taking the last shot and it wasn't a regular benching. Stern was at that game (https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1994-05-14-9405140158-story.html) and he didn't want Scottie becoming a bigger star than he already was and thereby hurt any chance of MJ returning to the Bulls. Knowing MJ's sensitive personality Stern ordered Phil Jackson to bench Scottie and make a play with "the many talented players remaining". That's why Scottie was mad and I would be too.

So you admit 2016 was rigged.

Thanks.

[Hey Yo]

[QUOTE=egokiller]Take is correct.

Pippen acted like a bitch and sat on the bench quitting on his team so kukoc made the shot and shit on him, essentially saying don

[jayfan]

Except it had nothing to do with taking the last shot and it wasn't a regular benching. Stern was at that game (https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1994-05-14-9405140158-story.html) and he didn't want Scottie becoming a bigger star than he already was and thereby hurt any chance of MJ returning to the Bulls. Knowing MJ's sensitive personality Stern ordered Phil Jackson to bench Scottie and make a play with "the many talented players remaining". That's why Scottie was mad and I would be too.

One of the most ridiculous posts I've ever read on this site.

[Mr Feeny]

One of the most ridiculous posts I've ever read on this site.

And that's saying something, in this cesspool:oldlol:
Stupidity really knows no bounds.

[egokiller]

I guess that means MJ is 100x worse since he quit on the Bulls for entire seasons while under contract.

bereavement leave

Learn it.
Grasp it.
Understand it.

Then come back when you have something to stay that isn't stupid. :lol

[FKAri]

So you admit 2016 was rigged.

Thanks.
One could interpret it that way. But then every year is rigged since Lebron is penning all the details. And he is far more dictatorial than Stern ever was.

[Levity]

came in here expecting "2 ballers 1 cup"

needless to say... thoroughly disappointed

[bizil]

You'd have a point that MJ was holding him back if Pippen didn't make an all-star team, all-nba team or the dream team until Jordan left, but he did all of those things and was considered a superstar by 93.....under 'Jordan Ball'. Let that sink in.

Obviously he wouldn't be an MVP candidate playing next to MJ, because he wasn't as good. That's a typical retarded 'non-point' on your end. Magic wasn't going to win MVP when Kareem was is his prime. Kobe wasn't an MVP candidate playing next to peak Shaq. If there's someone 'better' than you on your team then no....you're not going to be in the running for MVP. :hammerhead:

Scottie was a 21/7/7 player in 92....and a 22/9/6 player in 94. His production with MJ was 90% of what it was without him. Let that sink in.

If MJ was holding Kukoc back, then Kukoc had the opportunity to show his mettle in 98/99( he was 30) when the Bull broke up. He average 19/7/5 on 49% TS with the Sixers. Let that sink in.

Kukoc was never more than a complimentary talent in the NBA. He'd have never led a team anywhere as 'the man'. He was the 6th man on the championship team, that's not a scrub....it's simply about the level he actually was on a great team. Yeah you could have stuck him on the Clippers and he'd drop 23/7/7...and they'd win 30 games.

I find the use of 'Jordan ball' funny, considering Scottie Pippen 'ascended' in status and reputation playing next to MJ........while an established top 3 player like D.Wade had his reputation shitted on by c*unts like you for Lebron's failures( 'Wade ball' being the reason Miami lost the 2011 finals per ISH Brantard logic) and had to scale his own game back.

Well said! What made Pip legendary was his great floor game and positional versatility. He was a great rebounding, passing, and defending SF. He could play AND defend 3 or 4 different positions. But what many posters DON'T realize is u have MANY alpha dog scorers in NBA history who ALSO had those attributes.

So they had the great scoring AND great all around ability in one package. MJ, Kobe, West, Wade, Hondo, Bron, KD, G Hill, Frazier, Giannis, etc. are all examples. All these guys were considered very good to great defenders in their time. All were great passers for their respective positions. And all DOMINATED games scoring consistently in a manner Pip never did! Pip redefined the point forward position. Because no SF before him had his height, athletic ability, positional versatility, and floor game as a combo

BUT he was never a guy who could carry a team scoring the rock! If he was, he would have been seen as ARGUABLY the GOAT SF at one point in time! He has DOUBLE THE RINGS that Bird or Bron has. BUT BOTH are much higher on the GOAT SF list! U can have MULTIPLE alpha dog scorers on one team! GSW proved that. Shaq-Kobe proved that. Doc-Moses proved that. So that MJ held Pip or Kukoc back stuff is BS!!

[Hey Yo]

bereavement leave

Learn it.
Grasp it.
Understand it.

Then come back when you have something to stay that isn't stupid. :lol
Since when is playing Minor league baseball for 18mos. part of bereavement? It was the offseason when his dad was murdered. Plenty of time to mourn the loss then.

Just admit it, chico...... you set yourself up again and stepped in your own pile of shit. You just can't help doing so over and over and over and over again.

[3ball]

Since when is playing Minor league baseball for 18mos. part of bereavement? It was the offseason when his dad was murdered. Plenty of time to mourn the loss then.

Just admit it, chico...... you set yourself up again and stepped in your own pile of shit. You just can't help doing so over and over and over and over again.


32:38 - 33:04

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IBZH4nICAE4&t=32m38s


Looks like ur wrong

[Hey Yo]

32:38 - 33:04

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IBZH4nICAE4&t=32m38s


Looks like ur wrong

Mourning:

the expression of deep sorrow for someone who has died

an expression of grief or a time of grieving that follows a loved one's death or other serious loss.


Got multiple YT video's of him mourning on the bench or in the outfield? Showing huge expressions of grief and sorrow while in uniform??

[egokiller]

32:38 - 33:04

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IBZH4nICAE4&t=32m38s


Looks like ur wrong

He choses to be wrong over and over with his weak anti MJ takes. At this point it

[Stringer Bell]

Also had a nice little scrap between Derek Harper & AJ English, a few rows ahead of David Stern.

https://youtu.be/CiuVGqHQ-do

[Phoenix]

Well said! What made Pip legendary was his great floor game and positional versatility. He was a great rebounding, passing, and defending SF. He could play AND defend 3 or 4 different positions. But what many posters DON'T realize is u have MANY alpha dog scorers in NBA history who ALSO had those attributes.

So they had the great scoring AND great all around ability in one package. MJ, Kobe, West, Wade, Hondo, Bron, KD, G Hill, Frazier, Giannis, etc. are all examples. All these guys were considered very good to great defenders in their time. All were great passers for their respective positions. And all DOMINATED games scoring consistently in a manner Pip never did! Pip redefined the point forward position. Because no SF before him had his height, athletic ability, positional versatility, and floor game as a combo

BUT he was never a guy who could carry a team scoring the rock! If he was, he would have been seen as ARGUABLY the GOAT SF at one point in time! He has DOUBLE THE RINGS that Bird or Bron has. BUT BOTH are much higher on the GOAT SF list! U can have MULTIPLE alpha dog scorers on one team! GSW proved that. Shaq-Kobe proved that. Doc-Moses proved that. So that MJ held Pip or Kukoc back stuff is BS!!


:cheers: agreed on all accounts.

[Jasper]

This was a coached team , not alpha players taking the initiative.

Pip was the top dog , but Phil - was a true Czar and his gut feeling was everything.
Kukoc took it and made it but the season was over anyways...

Phil really wanted Pip to earn the ring w/out MJ , but it never happened.
It was just a game.

Pip's legacy still in tack(.)

[Stringer Bell]

Jordan did it the other way when the game winner was called for Kukoc, he stepped in the way and airballed a 3 in his 2nd to last game as a Bull.

If you remember that game 5, Jordan and Pippen were off, and Kukoc was red hot, 11 for 13. Harper I think was inbounding and said he couldn

[egokiller]

[QUOTE=Stringer Bell]Jordan did it the other way when the game winner was called for Kukoc, he stepped in the way and airballed a 3 in his 2nd to last game as a Bull.

If you remember that game 5, Jordan and Pippen were off, and Kukoc was red hot, 11 for 13. Harper I think was inbounding and said he couldn

[Bawkish]

Name Ordan clutch moment without Pippen

the entire final minute of Game 6 1998 finals