Who would be the best 1 on 1 player in NBA history?

[Shogon]

If there were an entire NBA history 1 on 1 tournament where people were all magically in their primes, who would win a best of 5 for each matchup bracket?

I’m pretty torn on this but I was curious as to how ISH would lean...

[PP34Deuce]

Honestly, the logical choice is MJ or Kobe, or prime Tmac.....

But in a pure one on one halfcourt game.... Kevin Durant beats every single guy more than they beat him.

[Ghost1]

Kevin Durant

[NBASTATMAN]

MJ or Kevin Durant.. Kobe would be after them two .. No Tmac cannot stay with any of these guys.. Just my opinion

[jlip]

Kareem

[scuzzy]

Durant, with ease

[Gus Hemmingway]

LeBron

[Meticode]

LeBron James 2012-13 season.

[LAmbruh]

+1 Lebron

[RRR3]

Who the hell is beating peak Shaq one on one?

[Bosnian Sajo]

Who the hell is beating peak Shaq one on one?

Depends, who gets the ball first?

[Bankaii]

Depends, who gets the ball first?
I was thinking to this too. But look at it this way...
Durant would not be able to stop peak Shaq from backing him down under the goal and bodying him every time.
On the other hand I think Shaq can stop KD at least once out 10 tries, since he would be telling on jumpshots mostly.

[Bosnian Sajo]

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[PistonsFan#21]

Kyrie Irving if he was 6'8"

[RRR3]

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That’s cute. Shaq would annihilate him.

[PistonsFan#21]

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He'll make that shot maybe 35% of the time.

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[QUOTE=RRR3]That

[Bosnian Sajo]

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[LAmbruh]

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that's cute


6-16 :oldlol:

[RRR3]

One offensive foul and Kobe would free throw sweep him from midrange.
And then you woke up.

[Bosnian Sajo]

I'm sorry, when it comes to one on one? Kobe's got all the moves. All of em.



For me, it's between him and Hakeem Olajuwon.

[andgar923]

There was a 1 on 1 drill the men

[PistonsFan#21]

Jimmer Fredette would make a solid choice too with no coaching staff or teammates to stop him from showcasing his talents.

[Bosnian Sajo]

Honestly, whenever we talk 1 on 1 it's almost exclusively talked about for perimeter players...it is interesting to think about big men.


Minnesota KG was a different animal. Truly a great PF, MVP player...but I still would give the nod to the dream. I can't think of a more mobile big man while still being 7ft tall, offensively dominant, and among the GOAT defenders in history. Think about it, everyone's favorite player at one point in time went to Hakeem to learn some moves, perimeter players going to a center :lol

[sdot_thadon]

What about Wilt?

[Bronbron23]

Probably somebody nobody knows or remembers. 1 on 1 and 5 on 5 are 2 totally different animals

[NBAGOAT]

kg is an underrated one. A big who can guard guards. Durant cant even shooting over him. with that logic, I think young shaq who's quicker might have argument. He's still way too big for any perimeter guy to have a chance however

[Bosnian Sajo]

What about Wilt?


Is anyone here old enough to recall his game? I don't even know if games were on tv back then, so said person would also have to have attended enough games to have a true opinion on Wilt :lol

[PistonsFan#21]

Probably somebody nobody knows or remembers. 1 on 1 and 5 on 5 are 2 totally different animals

Nah impossible. if you were to be that good of a iso 1v1 scorer people will hear about you no doubt.

[stalkerforlife]

Kobe
MJ
Hakeem
KAJ
Durant

[stalkerforlife]

kg is an underrated one. A big who can guard guards. Durant cant even shooting over him. with that logic, I think young shaq who's quicker might have argument. He's still way too big for any perimeter guy to have a chance however

LMFAO @ KG being in this discussion.

:wtf:

[stalkerforlife]

Jimmer Fredette would make a solid choice too with no coaching staff or teammates to stop him from showcasing his talents.

Joking aside, he is a top 100 scorer of all time.

Racism destroyed his career.

[RRR3]

Joking aside, he is a top 100 scorer of all time.

Racism destroyed his career.
Banworthy.

[stalkerforlife]

Banworthy.

Still liberal cucking?

I bet you watch cuck porn.

White guilt is so cringe.

[HylianNightmare]

Shaq

[RRR3]

Still liberal cucking?

I bet you watch cuck porn.

White guilt is so cringe.
Change your diapers.

[Wally450]

Kyrie Irving if he was 6'8"

Kyrie was my first thought, but the height would come into play when playing a Durant, T-Mac, Kobe.

[imdaman99]

2017 Westbrook. He was scoring on anyone and everyone. He was a 1 man army

That being said, gotta go with Kobe. KD is close too.

[Bosnian Sajo]

2017 Westbrook. He was scoring on anyone and everyone. He was a 1 man army

That being said, gotta go with Kobe. KD is close too.


Oh hell no dude, Westbrook isnt anywhere in this discussion. Full court Westbrook ok maybe, half court? You know hes trying to go to the rim.

[Bronbron23]

Nah impossible. if you were to be that good of a iso 1v1 scorer people will hear about you no doubt.
Nah man. There's guys who are amazing in pick up games or 1 on 1 but as soon as you get them in organized basketball they're not as good.

[Manny98]

Durant, with ease
This.

[Bronbron23]

Joking aside, he is a top 100 scorer of all time.

Racism destroyed his career.
You flicking geeks, there's no way in hell jimmer does well in 1 on 1 against the best players in the world. He'd never get a stop. As soon as he missed it be game over

[Rolando]

Kevin Durant of course.

He has it all.

The height that allows him to shoot over anyone and defend the tall guys.

The length and quickness to defend anyone.

The ball handling to get by anyone.

The shooting and finishing ability comparable to anyone.

It's an absolute freaking tragic shame that he injured himself this past season as he, at the time, was the best player in the world. Everyone knew it.

[superduper]

EASILY LeCrab

[Cleverness]

Give me KD all day

I would absolutely love to watch this hypothetical tournament with all players in their primes going 1 on 1

[bobopenguin]

err... prime shaq...

do u guys know how big & fast & strong he is?
His only weakness was FT.. and there's no FT in 1v1..

[PistonsFan#21]

Nah man. There's guys who are amazing in pick up games or 1 on 1 but as soon as you get them in organized basketball they're not as good.

I know that but i have a hard time believing theres an NBA player out there that isn't known but has the best combo of 1v1 defense and 1v1 offense skills to take on a guy like KD. Surely there would be some buzz in the league if he was that good. He would get some playing time just simply based on his man to man defense

[Carbine]

I am disappointed to see KGs name in this thread so much

The whole reason he's not a top ten player ever is because he wasn't a great one on one player. The biggest difference between Duncan and Garnett on an individual player basis was you could give the ball to Duncan in a one on one situation and you like you're chances of him scoring if left alone.

KG could do it, just not consistently. He doesn't deserve to be in this thread AT ALL.

[Vino24]

Paul Pierce or Joe Johnson. They have an oldman game that wears the opponent down. Inside-out game is top notch

[warriorfan]

[QUOTE=andgar923]There was a 1 on 1 drill the men

[PistonsFan#21]

Paul Pierce or Joe Johnson. They have an oldman game that wears the opponent down. Inside-out game is top notch

None of those 2 have the defense to even get a single stop against guys like KD

[Vino24]

None of those 2 have the defense to even get a single stop against guys like KD
prime joe and pierce do

[iamgine]

If no FT then Shaq.

[SomeBlackDude]

Who the hell is beating peak Shaq one on one?

this.

especially orlando shaq who was crazy mobile for a 7 fter.

no shooting guard or forward has anything to offer this man.

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[SomeBlackDude]

the nba actually had a 1 on 1 money tournament in '72. the final was jo jo white (6'3" 190) vs bob lanier (6'11" 250).

lanier won (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zk9WhHFhLus).

big men, especially those with good defense and mobility, have the big advantage in a 1 on 1.

too bad we're in the era of team-hopping, teaming-up divas. probably couldn't do something like that today.

feel like only players from this era (2000s on) who would sign up for it would be kobe, kg, and westbrook.

we couldn't get this man bron to compete in a dunk contest but you think he'd risk getting humiliated by kobe or kd in a 1 on 1?

[sdot_thadon]

Is anyone here old enough to recall his game? I don't even know if games were on tv back then, so said person would also have to have attended enough games to have a true opinion on Wilt :lol
Well there's limited video out there and tons of anecdotal evidence from interviews and books i guess. Wilt was pretty much what happens if Shaq would have reached his full potential. Had a soft touch around the basket despite being one of the most powerful guys to ever play. Averaged 50 for a season in 5 on 5 so its hard to believe any small guy is giving that version of Wilt any problems. I hate the ghost stories they tell about him but the legit sounding takes say he was pretty unstoppable if he decided to be. There were still stories of him putting current nba stars in their place in pickup games when he was in his 40s retired.

[NBAGOAT]

the nba actually had a 1 on 1 money tournament in '72. the final was jo jo white (6'3" 190) vs bob lanier (6'11" 250).

lanier won (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zk9WhHFhLus).

big men, especially those with good defense and mobility, have the big advantage in a 1 on 1.

too bad we're in the era of team-hopping, teaming-up divas. probably couldn't do something like that today.

feel like only players from this era (2000s on) who would sign up for it would be kobe, kg, and westbrook.

we couldn't get this man bron to compete in a dunk contest but you think he'd risk getting humiliated by kobe or kd in a 1 on 1?

Correct me if I

[1987_Lakers]

the nba actually had a 1 on 1 money tournament in '72. the final was jo jo white (6'3" 190) vs bob lanier (6'11" 250).

lanier won (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zk9WhHFhLus).

big men, especially those with good defense and mobility, have the big advantage in a 1 on 1.

too bad we're in the era of team-hopping, teaming-up divas. probably couldn't do something like that today.

feel like only players from this era (2000s on) who would sign up for it would be kobe, kg, and westbrook.

we couldn't get this man bron to compete in a dunk contest but you think he'd risk getting humiliated by kobe or kd in a 1 on 1?

Kareem destroyed Dr. J in a 1 on 1. Both were retired, but still.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WagLsOTNlF8

[NBAGOAT]

Stupid hypothetical but if you did 1 and 2 for buckets, do perimeter guys have a good chance. yes I

[Overdrive]

Loser's or winner's ball?

[andgar923]

Loser's or winner's ball?
who plays loser's?

It's ALWAYS winner's ball... always.

[paksat]

[QUOTE=NBAGOAT]Stupid hypothetical but if you did 1 and 2 for buckets, do perimeter guys have a good chance. yes I

[thefatmiral]

Currently it would be durant. Honorable mention derozan. Watch them play king of the court from a couple years ago.

All time shaq. Or maybe hakeem.

[SomeBlackDude]

Kareem destroyed Dr. J in a 1 on 1. Both were retired, but still.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WagLsOTNlF8

damn, both guys kept themselves in phenomenal shape. :applause:

[sdot_thadon]

[QUOTE=NBAGOAT][B]Correct me if I

[And1AllDay]

LeBron James 2012-13 season.

issa wrap

#1 lebron 13'

#2 kobe 06'
#3 kd 17'

[And1AllDay]

Yeah that did happen in 90, I don't remember it at that time but I read about it a few years back. There was also one set in 95 between Dream and Shaq that fell through at the last minute set up by Taco Bell with those friendly ass commercials promoting it. Both times would have a $1 million prize, Dream pulled out the day before the event.:oldlol: The league itself and the players union were both supposedly against the magic vs. mj game. Here's a bit on it:






Imagine if a star said this today.

mike sittin there like

'well i was 1-9 without pippen so if its 2 on 2 tournament and i get scottie than we are good othewise no im not playing.'

[72-10]

PG: Allen Iverson (Stephen Curry)
SG: Michael Jordan (Kobe Bryant)
SF: Kevin Durant (Larry Bird)
PF: Dirk Nowitzki (Kevin Garnett)
C: Hakeem Olajuwon (Wilt Chamberlain)

[MrFonzworth]

Ricky Rubio

[72-10]

yeah I gotta say, Chris Paul is awfully close to making my point guard list.

[Shogon]

I'm partial to bigs.

I gotta say I think it's going to be Garnett, Olajuwon, Shaq or Wilt... maybe D-Rob.

I tend to go Garnett or Hakeem because of the mid range.

I'd also put Anthony Davis over most of the guys listed in this thread.

Kevin Durant would be my favorite out of the non bigs.

[NBAGOAT]

curry has no chance ZERO

sure he can make a 3's like no tomorrow but the first one he misses it's gonna be game over, he'll never touch the ball again

I think you have to sub out wilt and shaq for this to be a proper discussion, or flat out anoint them the winners.

at that point it's probably hakeem or KAJ that win it

take those away and MAYBE we can start getting into big perimeter players like mj tmac kobe

I

[72-10]

I considered Shaq as back-up, but Shaq really used brawn, size and strength more than his skillset. Wilt had a fadeaway at least, not a super consistent and wet one, but one he got to drop every so often. You might notice most of my picks have a fade.

Of course Shaq could back anybody down into the paint, but not Wilt probably, and besides that sh*t is jive.

[Overdrive]

who plays loser's?

It's ALWAYS winner's ball... always.

Then a guy like Curry has no chance against a mobile center. 1 miss it's over.

[KobesFinger]

I

[FKAri]

Yeah that did happen in 90, I don't remember it at that time but I read about it a few years back. There was also one set in 95 between Dream and Shaq that fell through at the last minute set up by Taco Bell with those friendly ass commercials promoting it. Both times would have a $1 million prize, Dream pulled out the day before the event.:oldlol: The league itself and the players union were both supposedly against the magic vs. mj game. Here's a bit on it:






Imagine if a star said this today.
What an insecure little fucc boi MJ is

[eliteballer]

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[soots]

Wilt.

A retired past his prime Wilt soloed the prime showtime lakers with a bunch of YMCAers

[Bronbron23]

issa wrap

#1 lebron 13'

#2 kobe 06'
#3 kd 17'
I swear most people on here don't know shit about ball. One on one is pretty much a half court iso situation. That isn't brons strength. Most of his points come off of screens or full court breaks situations. Hes one of the best ever when it comes to 5 on 5 but he wouldn't even be a top 20 when it comes to one on one all time.

[Gileraracer]

LeBron James 2012-13 season.

When stiff arms and travels are allowed maybe.

[RRR3]

Yeah that did happen in 90, I don't remember it at that time but I read about it a few years back. There was also one set in 95 between Dream and Shaq that fell through at the last minute set up by Taco Bell with those friendly ass commercials promoting it. Both times would have a $1 million prize, Dream pulled out the day before the event.:oldlol: The league itself and the players union were both supposedly against the magic vs. mj game. Here's a bit on it:






Imagine if a star said this today.
This needs a thread made about it the next time 3ball acts up.

[Shogon]

mike sittin there like

'well i was 1-9 without pippen so if its 2 on 2 tournament and i get scottie than we are good othewise no im not playing.'

As sdot said, imagine if a star player, particularly LeBron, did this sort of thing. Would be absolutely roasted for it on the daily.

Yeah Jordan helped commercialize the game but he faced absolutely no where near the amount of media scrutiny the guys that came into the league 2003 and later... it’s not even remotely close...

I wonder what impact it would have had on Jordan’s career if everyone and all these talk shows were roasting him about 1-9 all day every day lolllll

[Andrei89]

Shaq.

Orlando Shaq was quick for his size too. While Durant might make 7 out of 10 jumpshots on Shaq. He will probably not be able to stop Shaq posting him up.

[INDI]

I was thinking to this too. But look at it this way...
Durant would not be able to stop peak Shaq from backing him down under the goal and bodying him every time.
On the other hand I think Shaq can stop KD at least once out 10 tries, since he would be telling on jumpshots mostly.

Most 1 on 1 games they alternate possessions after each basket scored. Meaning as soon as Shaq slams it then Durant would get the ball next possession. Also 3

[thefatmiral]

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[PistonsFan#21]

[QUOTE=INDI]Most 1 on 1 games they alternate possessions after each basket scored. Meaning as soon as Shaq slams it then Durant would get the ball next possession. Also 3