Biggest elevations, LeBron to Kyrie, LeBron to Love, etc.

[SpaceJam2]

Who had the biggest elevating power among prior career losers (Kyrie, Bosh, Jordan, Love)?

Before LeBron helped Kyrie and Love they both had zero playoff series wins and zero playoff GAME wins. The same can be said for Chris Bosh before joining LeBron (also 0 playoff series wins).

The LeBron elevation:
Love = 6 years with 0 playoff game wins
Kyrie = 3 years with 0 playoff game wins
Bosh = 7 years with 3 playoff game wins

The Pippen elevation:
Jordan = 3 years with 1 playoff game win

Who else can we add to the list?

[Gus Hemmingway]

Meanwhile Pippen won more playoff games without MJ than the other way around :eek:

[SpaceJam2]

Meanwhile Pippen won more playoff games without MJ than the other way around :eek:

Very similar carry jobs between Pippen and LeBron if you think about it


The LeBron elevation:
Kyrie = 3 years with 0 playoff game wins

The Pippen elevation:
Jordan = 3 years with 1 playoff game win

[ImKobe]

Kyrie was in a rebuilding situation in Cleveland and Love played out West, where James himself failed to make the Playoffs last season.

James without Irving, Bosh & Love = swept in the Finals and missed Playoffs 3x

Lebron couldn't even make the Finals on 60-win teams before joining up with a Dwyane Wade that had already carried a team to a championship.

[paksat]

2004 - missed playoffs

2005 - missed playoffs despite the East all-star center on his team

2006 - 2nd round elimination

2007 - 2-seeded Cavs beat 1-seeded Pistons to make Finals (lebron averaged 21 on 41% outside of game 5; 25 on 45% overall)..... then 22 on 36% in Finals sweep loss

2008 - 26 on 35% in ecsf loss

2009 - loses with 60-win 1 seed

2010 - loses with 60-win 1 seed (record - no one ever lost with 60-win 1 seed for two straight yrs)

Then said "fck this, I can't handle being such a loser" and teamed up with the #2 and #4 players in PER aka the best small forward and shooting guard in the league

[SpaceJam2]

Very similar carry jobs between Pippen and LeBron if you think about it


The LeBron elevation:
Kyrie = 3 years with 0 playoff game wins

The Pippen elevation:
Jordan = 3 years with 1 playoff game win

Anyone available for comment?

[paksat]

Anyone available for comment?

2004 - missed playoffs

2005 - missed playoffs despite the East all-star center on his team

2006 - 2nd round elimination

2007 - 2-seeded Cavs beat 1-seeded Pistons to make Finals (lebron averaged 21 on 41% outside of game 5; 25 on 45% overall)..... then 22 on 36% in Finals sweep loss

2008 - 26 on 35% in ecsf loss

2009 - loses with 60-win 1 seed

2010 - loses with 60-win 1 seed (record - no one ever lost with 60-win 1 seed for two straight yrs)

Then said "fck this, I can't handle being such a loser" and teamed up with the #2 and #4 players in PER aka the best forward and shooting guard in the league

[SpaceJam2]

2004 - missed playoffs

2005 - missed playoffs despite the East all-star center on his team

2006 - 2nd round elimination

2007 - 2-seeded Cavs beat 1-seeded Pistons to make Finals (lebron averaged 21 on 41% outside of game 5; 25 on 45% overall)..... then 22 on 36% in Finals sweep loss

2008 - 26 on 35% in ecsf loss

2009 - loses with 60-win 1 seed

2010 - loses with 60-win 1 seed (record - no one ever lost with 60-win 1 seed for two straight yrs)

Then said "fck this, I can't handle being such a loser" and teamed up with the #2 and #4 players in PER aka the best forward and shooting guard in the league


1-9 before Pippen

[egokiller]

1-9 before Pippen

Negated by the fact that he molded Pippen.

Lebron didn't want to win as much so he never started a breakfast club of his own.

3/9

[SpaceJam2]

Negated by the fact that he molded Pippen.

Lebron didn't want to win as much so he never started a breakfast club of his own.

3/9

Wrong bro

Pippen molded a 1-9 literal career loser

[egokiller]

Jason Terry

[SpaceJam2]

Jason Terry

Detroit Pistons :lol

[paksat]

Detroit Pistons :lol

8 points

[egokiller]

DaReal Lambo

[TheCorporation]

Very similar carry jobs between Pippen and LeBron if you think about it

The LeBron elevation:
Kyrie = 3 years with 0 playoff game wins

The Pippen elevation:
Jordan = 3 years with 1 playoff game win

:eek:

[3ball]

1-9 before Pippen


1-9 occurred in the 8 vs 1 matchup, whereas most first and second year players miss the playoffs, like Lebron, Curry, Durant, Giannis, Kyrie, and most other lottery picks

Obviously, if these lottery teams had made playoffs as the 8 vs 1 seed instead of missing, they'd be swept too. Teams that get swept in the 1st Round > teams that missed playoffs, so MJ's first few years > all those guys listed previously that missed playoffs
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[Shogon]

DaReal Lambo

James Jordan.