How many teams go 17-5 without their best player?

[SpaceJam2]

Toronto went 17-5 w/o Kawhi
Warriors are like 10-10 w/o Curry
Lakers were 6-12 w/o LeBron
Celtics did BETTER without Kyrie :oldlol:

[Shogon]

That's because Kyrie is a cancerous piece of dog shit.

BTW, I think Kawhi is clutch af, I think he's one of the if not the best perimeter defender in the league... I think he's the second best player in the world...

But his impact on Toronto is vastly overstated. As you said... look at their record without him.

Warriors fall apart without Curry.
Lakers fall apart without LeBron.

I mean... thing is... basketball is a complex sport. Teams and team dynamics are most complex than the sum of their parts. Oh well, most people will never understand this.

[warriorfan]

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[Proctor]

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[SpaceJam2]

Welcome to Insidehoops!

How many teams?

[Vino24]

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Fixed for accuracy :cheers:

[3ball]

Toronto went 17-5 w/o Kawhi
Warriors are like 10-10 w/o Curry
Lakers were 6-12 w/o LeBron
Celtics did BETTER without Kyrie :oldlol:


Weak teams let 1 guy dribble most of the time, so the team collapses without that guy..

Otoh, dynasty or championship teams play great basketball with or without their star because they move the ball instead of having 1 guy dribble it all the time

Essentially, great teams AVOID having one guy make all the decisions - that's bad basketball/hurts ball movement and rarely wins - true greats like Kawhi must therefore have the skill to play off teammates/off-ball to facilitate ball movement and winning play

Btw, the Warriors weren't bad without Curry - they're still over 0.500 and a viable team because they play great basketball/move the ball as described above

[SpaceJam2]

So which teams