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34-24 Footwork
06-04-2019, 12:11 AM
Shot 35% from the field
20% from 3 Point Line
69% from the Line
About 6 turnovers per game (more turnovers than his entire roster combined)

All in FOUR GAMES :lol

Lost by 3 points in game 3
Lost by 1 point in game 4

https://media.giphy.com/media/AAsj7jdrHjtp6/giphy.gif

RRR3
06-04-2019, 12:12 AM
Obama’s comments have poor 34-24 all riled up.

Poor fella is slamming his fists into his keyboard, typing through his tears.

bigkingsfan
06-04-2019, 12:13 AM
"Gary Payton made MJ look like Kobe" - Obama

https://media.giphy.com/media/AAsj7jdrHjtp6/giphy.gif

Gus Hemmingway
06-04-2019, 12:16 AM
Lemme give you some attention, baby-girl...

SouBeachTalents
06-04-2019, 12:21 AM
Damn, that's Kobe-esque

3ball
06-04-2019, 12:39 AM
Damn, that's Kobe-esque
Kobe shot 36% in the championship as first option?

Obama needs to bone up on his NBA history

TheCorporation
06-04-2019, 01:00 AM
"Gary Payton made MJ look like Kobe" - Obama

https://media.giphy.com/media/AAsj7jdrHjtp6/giphy.gif


And

just


like



...

ThAT :pimp:


The boys are baaaaaaaaack in town :rockon:

https://youtu.be/nN120kCiVyQ?t=48

34-24 Footwork
06-04-2019, 07:09 AM
Sooo..anything?

Hey Yo
06-04-2019, 07:15 AM
Sooo..anything?
Kobe was carried until he was 26

SamuraiSWISH
06-04-2019, 07:19 AM
I mean yes, it’s putrid. Only thing justifiably worse is 2011 LeBron.

Bankaii
06-04-2019, 07:50 AM
2000 Kobe had less ppg, less apg, less rpg, with 1% better FG% and equally bad 3P% as a SECOND option behind the MDE at his absolute peak.

Very Kobe-esque indeed:applause:

He WaS iNjUrEd ThO!!!

aj1987
06-04-2019, 08:23 AM
Damn, that's Kobe-esque
[QUOTE=RRR3]Obama

ImKobe
06-04-2019, 10:29 AM
2000 Kobe had less ppg, less apg, less rpg, with 1% better FG% and equally bad 3P% as a SECOND option behind the MDE at his absolute peak.

Very Kobe-esque indeed:applause:

He WaS iNjUrEd ThO!!!


2000 Kobe was in fact injured, but at least he won his team a game with Shaq fouled out and on the road nonetheless in his first game back from an ankle injury that would normally sideline a player for 2-4 weeks. He also closed the series out in Game 6 late in the 4th.

What did Lebron do in 2007? Didn't Kobe also beat the same Spurs team in 5 a year later with his 2nd option being just as good as Lebron's with Duncan dominating the Lakers?

TheCorporation
06-04-2019, 11:05 AM
Kobe has two :lol

2000 and 2004, take your pick baby boy

Hey Yo
06-04-2019, 11:07 AM
2000 Kobe was in fact injured, but at least he won his team a game with Shaq fouled out and on the road nonetheless in his first game back from an ankle injury that would normally sideline a player for 2-4 weeks. He also closed the series out in Game 6 late in the 4th.

What did Lebron do in 2007? Didn't Kobe also beat the same Spurs team in 5 a year later with his 2nd option being just as good as Lebron's with Duncan dominating the Lakers?
:rolleyes:

Fouled out with 2:35 left in OT after already putting up 36-21.

ImKobe
06-04-2019, 11:13 AM
:rolleyes:

Fouled out with 2:35 left in OT after already putting up 36-21.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhGj48eVZK0

One clutch bucket after another :rockon: put the Lakers up 3 - 1 in the series.

Hey Yo
06-04-2019, 11:21 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhGj48eVZK0

One clutch bucket after another :rockon: put the Lakers up 3 - 1 in the series.
Then proceeded to shoot 20% in game 5 (4-20) for 8pts

Then he shot 29% (8-27) in game 6

Shaq needed back surgery that Summer from carrying Kobe the entire series.

superduper
06-04-2019, 11:25 AM
LOLL @ Bran stans "hE wAs InJuReD dOe" while crying the entire year about a loose vag.

Can't make this up :facepalm

TheCorporation
06-04-2019, 11:42 AM
:rolleyes:

Fouled out with 2:35 left in OT after already putting up 36-21.

Gottem

Caught!

bigkingsfan
06-04-2019, 11:59 AM
:rolleyes:

Fouled out with 2:35 left in OT after already putting up 36-21.
Lakers were also up 3. All Kobe had to do was not fk it up.

Hey Yo
06-04-2019, 12:11 PM
Lakers were also up 3. All Kobe had to do was not fk it up.
:oldlol:

TheCorporation
06-04-2019, 12:29 PM
Lakers were also up 3. All Kobe had to do was not fk it up.

:lol

SamuraiSWISH
06-04-2019, 01:12 PM
2004 Kobe
2007 LeBron
2011 LeBron

Worst Finals performances from a superstar I’ve ever seen. Easily. There’s an argument for 2008 Kobe being on that list too.

Gus Hemmingway
06-04-2019, 01:15 PM
[QUOTE=SamuraiSWISH]2004 Kobe
2007 LeBron
2011 LeBron

Worst Finals performances from a superstar I

SamuraiSWISH
06-04-2019, 01:26 PM
1996 Jordan?
On par with

2004 Kobe - 11.6 Gmsc 23/3/4 on 38%
2007 LeBron - 10.6 Gmsc 22/7/7 on 36%
2011 LeBron - 13.7 Gmsc 18/7/7 on 48%

??? God no. Not even close

These two are more similar and both faced great defenses ...

2008 Kobe - 16.4 Gmsc 26/5/5 on 41%
1996 Jordan - 18.5 Gmsc 27/5/4 on 42%

Mike was ever so slightly better. And he won. He closed out Seattle on their home court in game 3

Where as Kobe allowed LA to blow a 20 point lead that would

SouBeachTalents
06-04-2019, 01:56 PM
[QUOTE=SamuraiSWISH]2004 Kobe
2007 LeBron
2011 LeBron

Worst Finals performances from a superstar I

ImKobe
06-04-2019, 01:57 PM
Then proceeded to shoot 20% in game 5 (4-20) for 8pts

Then he shot 29% (8-27) in game 6

Shaq needed back surgery that Summer from carrying Kobe the entire series.

Yeah, he rushed back early and played the rest of the series on one leg but still had more impact than Lebron in 2007, who couldn't win his team one game. 26/10/4/1/2 on 42%TS in Game 6 is not that bad, he had a rough start shooting but made some clutch baskets, including a block on Rose and made 4 straight FTs to close the series out.

Need I remind you that Kobe's the only reason they even got to the Finals that year? They had to injure him on purpose to even have a chance in that series & he came back just 2 games later to kill Indiana's title hopes in their own house.

Kblaze8855
06-04-2019, 02:23 PM
07/11 LeBron 2000/2004 Kobe are down there with 94 Ewing and some old school ones that nobody would care about if listed.

Akhenaten
06-04-2019, 02:58 PM
Pat Ewing 94 Finals: 19 ppg, 36% FG

RRR3
06-04-2019, 03:58 PM
Yeah, he rushed back early and played the rest of the series on one leg but still had more impact than Lebron in 2007, who couldn't win his team one game. 26/10/4/1/2 on 42%TS in Game 6 is not that bad, he had a rough start shooting but made some clutch baskets, including a block on Rose and made 4 straight FTs to close the series out.

Need I remind you that Kobe's the only reason they even got to the Finals that year? They had to injure him on purpose to even have a chance in that series & he came back just 2 games later to kill Indiana's title hopes in their own house.
:yaohappy:

Manny98
06-04-2019, 04:01 PM
LeBron was dealing with severe back problems in 2007 so it doesn't account :no:

NBASTATMAN
06-04-2019, 04:06 PM
meltdown by the KOBE STANS.. :roll: :banana:

bullettooth
06-04-2019, 04:07 PM
LeBron was dealing with severe back problems in 2007 so it doesn't account :no:

Riiiiiight. Like that time when he 'shattered' his wrist but shot free throws without a problem?

NBASTATMAN
06-04-2019, 04:10 PM
Riiiiiight. Like that time when he 'shattered' his wrist but shot free throws without a problem?


LET THE KOBESTANS MELT.. THEY ARE IN DENIAL MODE RIGHT NOW.. AT ONE POINT THEY WILL GET TO THE ACCEPTANCE STAGE. :roll: :banana:

sdot_thadon
06-04-2019, 04:11 PM
Has any other 22 year old ever lead a team to a finals as the superstar, let alone without any backup? Wonder what other all time greats were doing at 22.....:lol

PickernRoller
06-04-2019, 04:25 PM
Salt truck already unloading...

https://i.ibb.co/XjVnD3L/ution-this-truck-makes-wide-right-turns-incoming-truck-loads-34618351.png

OP with another one.

ImKobe
06-04-2019, 05:20 PM
Has any other 22 year old ever lead a team to a finals as the superstar, let alone without any backup? Wonder what other all time greats were doing at 22.....:lol

Kobe at 22 vs Western Conference: 32/7/6 49%FG - 11 - 0 record three 50+ win teams
Lebron at 22 vs. Eastern Conference: 26/8/8 43%FG - 12 - 4 record two .500 teams one 50-win team

Kobe - better competition and in the hand-check era.

RRR3
06-04-2019, 05:30 PM
Kobe at 22 vs Western Conference: 32/7/6 49%FG - 11 - 0 record three 50+ win teams
Lebron at 22 vs. Eastern Conference: 26/8/8 43%FG - 12 - 4 record two .500 teams one 50-win team

Kobe - better competition and in the hand-check era.
Shaq.

34-24 Footwork
06-04-2019, 05:41 PM
Lol. @ 2000 finals making the list.

Are we retroactively making Kobe healthy for that series and pretending that Jalen Rose didn't intentionally injure him?

34-24 Footwork
06-04-2019, 05:43 PM
Kobe at 22 vs Western Conference: 32/7/6 49%FG - 11 - 0 record three 50+ win teams
Lebron at 22 vs. Eastern Conference: 26/8/8 43%FG - 12 - 4 record two .500 teams one 50-win team

Kobe - better competition and in the hand-check era.

They can't use the "single coverage" excuse anymore because I kept a shitload of receipts :lol

Kobe is literally the better player. Better comp, less talented teams.

Bankaii
06-04-2019, 05:46 PM
Shaq.
Kobetards seem to always conveniently forget about that guy.:oldlol:

RRR3
06-04-2019, 05:46 PM
They can't use the "single coverage" excuse anymore because I kept a shitload of receipts :lol

Kobe is literally the better player. Better comp, less talented teams.
If you honestly thought Kobe was better you wouldn’t obsess about LeBron so much.

sdot_thadon
06-04-2019, 05:50 PM
Kobe at 22 vs Western Conference: 32/7/6 49%FG - 11 - 0 record three 50+ win teams
Lebron at 22 vs. Eastern Conference: 26/8/8 43%FG - 12 - 4 record two .500 teams one 50-win team

Kobe - better competition and in the hand-check era.
umm yeah, that was Shaq's team, and even if you brainlessly want to argue it was Kobe's team he had a top 10 all time teammate. Lebron? not so much. nice try though.:cheers:

34-24 Footwork
06-04-2019, 06:28 PM
Hmm...if I was Jalen Rose, who would I intentionally injure?

A 22 year old Kobe or the most dominant player in NBA history?

Somethings not adding up.

RealSkipBayless
06-04-2019, 06:35 PM
Hmm...if I was Jalen Rose, who would I intentionally injure?

A 22 year old Kobe or the most dominant player in NBA history?

Somethings not adding up.
:eek:

RRR3
06-04-2019, 06:36 PM
Hmm...if I was Jalen Rose, who would I intentionally injure?

A 22 year old Kobe or the most dominant player in NBA history?

Somethings not adding up.
Insinuating Kobe was better than Shaq in 2000.




Completely delusional.

34-24 Footwork
06-04-2019, 06:42 PM
Lol. Bron stans are damn near fascistic when it comes to their daddy Lebron :lol

Can't even ask questions. Smh.

RRR3
06-04-2019, 06:45 PM
Lol. Bron stans are damn near fascistic when it comes to their daddy Lebron :lol

Can't even ask questions. Smh.
You seem upset.



Everything ok, honey?

LostCause
06-04-2019, 06:57 PM
Always an excuse lmao

ILLsmak
06-04-2019, 07:03 PM
2011 Bron n 2004 kobe Cuz they blew winnable series by being passive aggressive *****. Bron didn't even get exposed in 07, he was just in way over his head.

-Smak

34-24 Footwork
06-04-2019, 07:17 PM
2011 Bron n 2004 kobe Cuz they blew winnable series by being passive aggressive *****. Bron didn't even get exposed in 07, he was just in way over his head.

-Smak

I'm not sure. You check those final scores of those games? Every game was pretty much close.

Maybe a few less turnovers from Lebron and it's not a sweep. Maybe shooting at least 75% from the line would've helped.

20% from the 3 point line? :lol

sdot_thadon
06-04-2019, 07:35 PM
I'm not sure. You check those final scores of those games? Every game was pretty much close.

Maybe a few less turnovers from Lebron and it's not a sweep. Maybe shooting at least 75% from the line would've helped.

20% from the 3 point line? :lol
the problem is you can do this stupid what if shit with any loss in nba history. What if Kobe passed to Shaq more in 2004? 6 titles.:confusedshrug:

34-24 Footwork
06-04-2019, 07:42 PM
the problem is you can do this stupid what if shit with any loss in nba history. What if Kobe passed to Shaq more in 2004? 6 titles.:confusedshrug:


Lol. Nah. Lakers would've still lost.

But feel free to give Lebron a sympathy ring :lol

sdot_thadon
06-04-2019, 07:48 PM
Lol. Nah. Lakers would've still lost.

But feel free to give Lebron a sympathy ring :lol
He doesn't need one, he's already left Kobe's corpse in the dust.:oldlol:

SamuraiSWISH
06-04-2019, 08:03 PM
Riiiiiight. Like that time when he 'shattered' his wrist but shot free throws without a problem?
Or that phantom elbow injury in the 2010 playoffs LOL which wasn

Gus Hemmingway
06-04-2019, 08:37 PM
[QUOTE=SamuraiSWISH]Or that phantom elbow injury in the 2010 playoffs LOL which wasn

34-24 Footwork
06-04-2019, 08:51 PM
Lol. I'll never forget the broken hand excuse :lol

SamuraiSWISH
06-04-2019, 08:56 PM
He averaged 35/10/8 on 54% in the 2018 Finals


Who said he needed an excuse?
He apparently did. And what good are hollow stats if you don

34-24 Footwork
06-04-2019, 09:01 PM
He apparently did. And what good are hollow stats if you don’t play SNY defense and can’t even win a single game.

Plus an OVERTIME Quit job when the game was in the balance.

paksat
06-04-2019, 09:01 PM
He averaged 35/10/8 on 54% in the 2018 Finals


Who said he needed an excuse?

So he did that with a broken hand ofc right? :roll:

ILLsmak
06-04-2019, 09:36 PM
I'm not sure. You check those final scores of those games? Every game was pretty much close.

Maybe a few less turnovers from Lebron and it's not a sweep. Maybe shooting at least 75% from the line would've helped.

20% from the 3 point line? :lol

People react differently to knowing they cant win, then knowing it's a series and that they're gonna put you on an island every time, has to be awful. He was pretty young. But I am cool w what Bron did before he quit v the cs in 2010. I think Bron should have made the finals one of those those late 00 years. Maybe he'd lose. Kobe v Bron, we were supposed to see that once.

I really thought 09 or 10 was his year. 07 he was playing an atg, an atg defensive player w an atg defensive mind game scheme. He could have just balled out but yknow it's like I said Reggie Miller was broke as **** his first finals game. Bron got the trial by fire unlike anyone I've ever seen. Can't be mad he got swept.

It's probably how Larry bird felt when he played v Magics msu except he had to do it more than once.

-Smak

Ne 1
06-04-2019, 10:14 PM
Then proceeded to shoot 20% in game 5 (4-20) for 8pts

Then he shot 29% (8-27) in game 6

Shaq needed back surgery that Summer from carrying Kobe the entire series.

Eh, considering he came up with a legendary clutch performance in game 4 and also put up 26/10/4/2/1 with only 1 turn over playing excellent defense and coming up big in the 4th quarter in the clinching game, it's not a big deal in terms of his legacy. His defense on Mark Jackson was very impressive throughout the series actually. This is from after Game 1:

Quote:
Kobe's defense -- Kobe Bryant's ball pressure on Pacers point guard Mark Jackson was tremendous. It didn't cause turnovers, but it kept Indiana from getting into its half court offense quickly, and thus disrupted the timing. Kobe also did a good job chasing Miller around screens and denying him the ball when assigned to him.


Quote:
Bryant's ball pressure on Pacers guard Mark Jackson also helped the cause, slowing down the Indiana offense just enough to disrupt Miller's timing as he flew off screens. "It seemed like Reggie never got in any rythym," Pacers center Sam Perkins admitted.

superduper
06-04-2019, 11:06 PM
Bran is literally irrelevant without superstars

RRR3
06-04-2019, 11:13 PM
Bran is literally irrelevant without superstars
Must be why he’s almost all you talk about.

SamuraiSWISH
06-04-2019, 11:49 PM
Plus an OVERTIME Quit job when the game was in the balance.
This

ImKobe
06-05-2019, 02:44 AM
They can't use the "single coverage" excuse anymore because I kept a shitload of receipts :lol

Kobe is literally the better player. Better comp, less talented teams.

I remember idiots basing their whole "single coverage" argument on a screenshot of Shaq "dunking over" three Nets players in the 2002 Finals and then I posted the clip of the same play & it was Kobe who was actually being doubled as he passed it to Shaq for the poster :roll:


Shaq.

Shaq was worse than Kobe through those 3 rounds and Kobe got just as much defensive attention as James, actually more because Kobe had a reliable mid-range shot and James didn't. Defenders backed off James and always gave him the wide open mid-range shot while Kobe had to shoot it off the dribble with a hand in his face.

aj1987
06-05-2019, 03:34 AM
Shaq was worse than Kobe through those 3 rounds and Kobe got just as much defensive attention as James, actually more because Kobe had a reliable mid-range shot and James didn't. Defenders backed off James and always gave him the wide open mid-range shot while Kobe had to shoot it off the dribble with a hand in his face.
Kobe had a Shaq who averaged 29/15/2/1/3 on 55% through the first 3 rounds. LeBron had Boobie Gibson.

ImKobe
06-05-2019, 08:33 AM
Kobe had a Shaq who averaged 29/15/2/1/3 on 55% through the first 3 rounds. LeBron had Boobie Gibson.

Big Z & Drew Gooden averaged 25/18 combined and he also had Varejao, Hughes, Pavlovic & Gibson. Cavs went 9-10 deep in the Playoffs while Lakers played 7-8.

So with that in mind + Lebron facing weaker teams in the non-handcheck era, Kobe's Finals run was simply more impressive.. 39/10/4 50%FG in 4 straight road wins while Shaq was putting up 23 ppg in the same stretch.

superduper
06-05-2019, 08:37 AM
Shaq is lucky Kobe saved him from the image of being Duncan's bitch his entire career. If it wasn't for Kobe bailing him out year after year in the playoffs who knows what the "MDE's" career would've been like.

aj1987
06-05-2019, 08:55 AM
Big Z & Drew Gooden averaged 25/18 combined and he also had Varejao, Hughes, Pavlovic & Gibson. Cavs went 9-10 deep in the Playoffs while Lakers played 7-8.

So with that in mind + Lebron facing weaker teams in the non-handcheck era, Kobe's Finals run was simply more impressive.. 39/10/4 50%FG in 4 straight road wins while Shaq was putting up 23 ppg in the same stretch.
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Brick had PEAK shaq, shit for brains. Put rookie LeBron and Shaq together, they win 7 titles in 8 seasons together. Minimum.

jayfan
06-05-2019, 08:55 AM
https://www.cleveland.com/ohio-sports-blog/2012/06/lebron_james_futile_2007_nba_f.html

Cleveland Plain Dealer article from 2012 documenting Lebron's Futile 2007 Finals.



.

ImKobe
06-05-2019, 09:05 AM
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Brick had PEAK shaq, shit for brains. Put rookie LeBron and Shaq together, they win 7 titles in 8 seasons together. Minimum.

Lebron didn't even have a consistent jump shot until his 10th season :facepalm and have you ever seen Lebron win with a big man who couldn't shoot? And we all know how Lebron fares against Spurs' defenses. Add handchecking to the mix and it's laughable to think that they win more than 1 or 2 titles together.

aj1987
06-05-2019, 09:16 AM
Lebron didn't even have a consistent jump shot until his 10th season :facepalm and have you ever seen Lebron win with a big man who couldn't shoot? And we all know how Lebron fares against Spurs' defenses. Add handchecking to the mix and it's laughable to think that they win more than 1 or 2 titles together.
LeBron won his 3rd with TT as his big.

Going by your logic, when have you ever seen Kobe win a title with an elite guard? He wouldn't with Jack shit with Wade/Kyrie.

ImKobe
06-05-2019, 09:29 AM
LeBron won his 3rd with TT as his big.

Going by your logic, when have you ever seen Kobe win a title with an elite guard? He wouldn't with Jack shit with Wade/Kyrie.

If he could win 5 titles in the triangle with non-shooting bigs and playmaking bigs like Gasol, he could have won with anyone since the triangle is all about off-ball movement.

aj1987
06-05-2019, 10:02 AM
If he could win 5 titles in the triangle with non-shooting bigs and playmaking bigs like Gasol, he could have won with anyone since the triangle is all about off-ball movement.
Again, you sense idiot. He didn't have the MDE and he was playing against a team with 4 All-NBA players and an FMVP off the bench.

ImKobe
06-05-2019, 10:26 AM
Again, you sense idiot. He didn't have the MDE and he was playing against a team with 4 All-NBA players and an FMVP off the bench.

Lebron would have had Phil fired and Shaq traded for a 3-point specialist :roll:

aj1987
06-05-2019, 05:38 PM
Lebron would have had Phil fired and Shaq traded for a 3-point specialist :roll:
Is that why Phil called Brick a dog shit defender?

34-24 Footwork
06-05-2019, 06:58 PM
Great thread, fellas.

Just so we're on the same page...

So we couldn't come up with anything worse than 6 TO's per game, 35% shooting, 20% from the 3, and 69% from the freethrow?

PickernRoller
06-05-2019, 07:12 PM
6 TO's are worse than bricking 6 shots. At least if you brick then, you have a chance for an offensive board.

Turnovers are 1, a wasted possession and 2, 50/50 fast break 2 pt for the opponent.

If you were to factor that into his shooting percentage.... :roll: :roll: :roll:

SwayDizzle
06-05-2019, 07:25 PM
lebron stans gettin mad insecure atm

RealSkipBayless
06-05-2019, 08:08 PM
6 TO's are worse than bricking 6 shots. At least if you brick then, you have a chance for an offensive board.

I agree. It was on full display in the 2013 finals. :applause:

aj1987
06-14-2019, 03:50 PM
6 TO's are worse than bricking 6 shots. At least if you brick then, you have a chance for an offensive board.

Turnovers are 1, a wasted possession and 2, 50/50 fast break 2 pt for the opponent.

If you were to factor that into his shooting percentage.... :roll: :roll: :roll:
You do know that your lover averaged 22 PPG on 38% shooting over his first 4 NBA Finals, right?

Mr Feeny
06-14-2019, 03:58 PM
I believe Kobe was even less efficient in the 2000 finals, when you take ts%. There isnt much difference between Kobe's 2000 and Lebron's 2007.

SouBeachTalents
06-14-2019, 04:28 PM
I believe Kobe was even less efficient in the 2000 finals, when you take ts%. There isnt much difference between Kobe's 2000 and Lebron's 2007.
Well, one difference

https://www.sportscasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Shaq-Vince-Bucci-AFP-Getty-Image-640x455.jpg

dazzer87
06-14-2019, 06:40 PM
lebron stans gettin mad insecure atm
Its that time again...Right when the finals are over........... :lol

FKAri
06-14-2019, 06:42 PM
Steph Curry 2019
:cheers:

34-24 Footwork
06-14-2019, 07:35 PM
So you mean to tell me the guard who was intentionally injured by Jalen Rose, STILL played, chased around Reggie Miller, and still found a way to contribute offensively when it mattered the most?

Well damn..

34-24 Footwork
06-14-2019, 07:38 PM
Lol @ SouthBeachtalents and Mr Feeny blatantly admitting that they weren't watching basketball in 2000 but LOVE talking about the 2000 Finals.

Jalen Rose intentionally walked underneath Kobe to take Kobe out of the series; he's admitted it.

If they don't know basic shit like that, then why trust their analysis with anything else?

SouBeachTalents
06-14-2019, 07:41 PM
Lol @ SouthBeachtalents and Mr Feeny blatantly admitting that they weren't watching basketball in 2000 but LOVE talking about the 2000 Finals.

Jalen Rose intentionally walked underneath Kobe to take Kobe out of the series; he's admitted it.

If they don't know basic shit like that, then why trust their analysis with anything else?
Bish I never said that, quit makin shit up like usual

Mr Feeny
06-14-2019, 08:26 PM
Lol @ SouthBeachtalents and Mr Feeny blatantly admitting that they weren't watching basketball in 2000 but LOVE talking about the 2000 Finals.

Jalen Rose intentionally walked underneath Kobe to take Kobe out of the series; he's admitted it.

If they don't know basic shit like that, then why trust their analysis with anything else?

What are you crying about now? We are discussing worst performance in a finals. Kobe's was arguably the worst ever. If you're healthy enough to play, you're healthy enough. Otherwise,you open up a whole can of worms. Very few players are still 100% when the finals come around. Being sore or a little banged up doesn't mean you're injured. Otherwise, every poor finals by a player can be pinned on being banged up.

Doranku
06-14-2019, 08:35 PM
What are you crying about now? We are discussing worst performance in a finals. Kobe's was arguably the worst ever. If you're healthy enough to play, you're healthy enough. Otherwise,you open up a whole can of worms. Very few players are still 100% when the finals come around. Being sore or a little banged up doesn't mean you're injured. Otherwise, every poor finals by a player can be pinned on being banged up.

Jalen Rose admitted to purposely walking up underneath Kobe on a jumper and intentionally trying to injure him. That's a little different than being "banged up".

Mr Feeny
06-14-2019, 08:41 PM
Jalen Rose admitted to purposely walking up underneath Kobe on a jumper and intentionally trying to injure him. That's a little different than being "banged up".

Attempting to injure someone doesnt mean that the individual in question is injured. If the latter is on the court, it means he's banged up. Kobe shot extremely poorly before said incident occurred. And poorly after it occurred. So I'm not about to pin it on that.

ImKobe
06-14-2019, 08:47 PM
Attempting to injure someone doesnt mean that the individual in question is injured. If the latter is on the court, it means he's banged up. Kobe shot extremely poorly before said incident occurred. And poorly after it occurred. So I'm not about to pin it on that.

Except Kobe shot 46.4%FG for the Playoffs prior to injury with 6/13 in his only healthy Finals game lol. Yeah, he wasn't injured when he basically missed 2 games and played the rest of the series on a bad ankle.

RRR3
06-14-2019, 08:52 PM
Except Kobe shot 46.4%FG for the Playoffs prior to injury with 6/13 in his only healthy Finals game lol. Yeah, he wasn't injured when he basically missed 2 games and played the rest of the series on a bad ankle.
14 points on 13 shots, the absolute god.

ImKobe
06-14-2019, 08:58 PM
14 points on 13 shots, the absolute god.

Shot better than Lebron in any of his 2007 Finals games.

RRR3
06-14-2019, 09:02 PM
Shot better than Lebron in any of his 2007 Finals games.
LeBron had 25 on 21 shots in game

ImKobe
06-14-2019, 09:05 PM
LeBron had 25 on 21 shots in game

shot under 43% :facepalm

RRR3
06-14-2019, 09:06 PM
shot under 43% :facepalm
More points per shot :applause:

Didn’t have Shaq to take the burden off him either

ImKobe
06-14-2019, 09:11 PM
[QUOTE=RRR3]More points per shot :applause:

Didn

RRR3
06-14-2019, 09:17 PM
Blowout loss with 6 turnovers and barely 60% from the FT line lol. Kobe shot better and had less TOs in all 5 games against the Spurs the following year with his 2nd option averaging same numbers :eek:

Gooden: 13 ppg 50%FG
Gasol: 13 ppg 45%FG

One got swept and the other won in 5.
Wow 2008 Kobe was better at scoring than 2007 Bron you don

bison
06-14-2019, 09:44 PM
Shot 35% from the field
20% from 3 Point Line
69% from the Line
About 6 turnovers per game (more turnovers than his entire roster combined)

All in FOUR GAMES :lol

Lost by 3 points in game 3
Lost by 1 point in game 4

https://media.giphy.com/media/AAsj7jdrHjtp6/giphy.gif

Ouch. Surely this hypothetical superstar redeems himself 4 years later.

34-24 Footwork
06-14-2019, 10:21 PM
Ouch. Surely this hypothetical superstar redeems himself 4 years later.


http://image.nola.com/home/nola-media/width620/img/hornets_impact/photo/lebron-james-jason-terryjpg-1a406afebff80ae3.jpg

34-24 Footwork
06-14-2019, 10:22 PM
Blowout loss with 6 turnovers and barely 60% from the FT line lol. Kobe shot better and had less TOs in all 5 games against the Spurs the following year with his 2nd option averaging same numbers :eek:

Gooden: 13 ppg 50%FG
Gasol: 13 ppg 45%FG

One got swept and the other won in 5.


https://media.giphy.com/media/xUA7aTaAgUK1qcv1WE/giphy.gif

bison
06-14-2019, 10:24 PM
http://image.nola.com/home/nola-media/width620/img/hornets_impact/photo/lebron-james-jason-terryjpg-1a406afebff80ae3.jpg

I just started watching nba basketball this month! Who is the guy on the left? He looks big, strong and confident. Guy on the right looks like a little p*ssy. What

bigkingsfan
06-14-2019, 10:30 PM
[QUOTE=bison]I just started watching nba basketball this month! Who is the guy on the left? He looks big, strong and confident. Guy on the right looks like a little p*ssy. What

34-24 Footwork
06-14-2019, 10:37 PM
[QUOTE=bison]I just started watching nba basketball this month! Who is the guy on the left? He looks big, strong and confident. Guy on the right looks like a little p*ssy. What

RRR3
06-14-2019, 10:38 PM
I just started watching basketball, too bro. I got into basketball by, coincidentally, NOT watching basketball. I found this though.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/2011-nba-finals-mavericks-vs-heat.html

We'll get thru it together, young drip king.
Explains why you don

aj1987
06-15-2019, 03:48 AM
[QUOTE=RRR3]Explains why you don

34-24 Footwork
06-15-2019, 04:02 AM
Literally no one in this thread believes that RRR3 or AJ watches basketball. Both just copy/paste numbers from basketball reference :lol

aj1987
06-15-2019, 04:23 AM
Literally no one in this thread believes that RRR3 or AJ watches basketball. Both just copy/paste numbers from basketball reference :lol
This thread (the one that you created) is based on numbers, you autistic ****.

This is literally the OP:

https://i.postimg.cc/YqwgfGbG/pa.png

Mr Feeny
06-15-2019, 04:32 AM
Except Kobe shot 46.4%FG for the Playoffs prior to injury with 6/13 in his only healthy Finals game lol. Yeah, he wasn't injured when he basically missed 2 games and played the rest of the series on a bad ankle.

"On a bad ankle". He was healthy enough to play. He missed one game. Besides that, we dont really care about excuses. Everyone is hobbled in finals. This was even worse than 2007.

And Kobe's 2004 was worse than lebron's 2011.

Mr Feeny
06-15-2019, 04:35 AM
Literally no one in this thread believes that RRR3 or AJ watches basketball. Both just copy/paste numbers from basketball reference :lol

The latter didnt start watching until 2009 because that's when they starting broadcasting games in India, I'm told. Anything prior to that, he's box score watching.

Dont know about RRR3 but hes a Lebron fan. Most weren't watching in 2000. If they were, they would have been stanning another player (most likely Kobe) and would be part of the Kobe stans here, like you.

aj1987
06-15-2019, 06:15 AM
The latter didnt start watching until 2009 because that's when they starting broadcasting games in India, I'm told. Anything prior to that, he's box score watching.
You literally haven't watched a minute of basketball in your entire life and your batshit insane posting just proves that. Not to mention that your life revolves around hating on Kobe. A player who might soon get kicked out of the top 10. That's just sad and pathetic.

Mr Feeny
06-15-2019, 06:50 AM
You literally haven't watched a minute of basketball in your entire life and your batshit insane posting just proves that. Not to mention that your life revolves around hating on Kobe. A player who might soon get kicked out of the top 10. That's just sad and pathetic.

Stick to eating curry.

aj1987
06-16-2019, 08:26 PM
Stick to eating curry.
Why are you hating on curry, little girl? :confusedshrug: