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Objectivity
05-27-2019, 11:58 AM
How did the Lakers add a 27/8/8 guy but not get better on offense?
They went from 23rd in 2018 to 24th this year. Lebron Ball only benefits Lebron.

Dray n Klay
05-27-2019, 12:05 PM
They lost a 20/10 guy in Randle and a 10 point scorer in Lopez

bullettooth
05-27-2019, 12:08 PM
They lost a 20/10 guy in Randle and a 10 point scorer in Lopez

So LeBron isn't better than Randle or Lopez?

OK.

Indian guy
05-27-2019, 12:10 PM
Really? :rolleyes:

Let's just ignore the fact that LeBron missed 27 games; games in which Lakers were comfortably the worst offensive team in the league.

For the season Lakers had an ORTG of 111.5 with LeBron on the floor, 105.8 off. 111.5 would be a borderline top 10 offensive in the league. 105.8 would be bottom 3.

Objectivity
05-27-2019, 12:20 PM
Really? :rolleyes:

Let's just ignore the fact that LeBron missed 27 games; games in which Lakers were comfortably the worst offensive team in the league.

For the season Lakers had an ORTG of 111.5 with LeBron on the floor, 105.8 off. 111.5 would be a borderline top 10 offensive in the league. 105.8 would be bottom 3.

You

superduper
05-27-2019, 12:58 PM
You’re saying he missed 27 games, that means he played in 55 of them right?
In 2018 he played none, yet the lakers won more?

The more objective analysis that is done, the further and further Bran stans dig themselves in a hole :oldlol:

3ball
05-27-2019, 01:32 PM
Time of possession Playoffs

Lebron 2018 - 9.5 minutes

Kawhi 2019 - 5.3 minutes

Durant 2019 - 4.6 minutes

Giannis 2019 - 4.4 minutes


https://stats.nba.com/players/touches/?Season=2018-19&SeasonType=Playoffs&sort=TIME_OF_POSS&dir=1


Lebron's abnormal ball-dominance for his position hinders the ball-movement/teamwork that teammates need to play well, so ready-made superstars are required to have any chance for a contender - i.e. he could never make it with Lowry

Lebron never made the Finals without superstars, except in 07' when everyone else was making it without them too (Dwight, AI, Kidd twice) - he infact left Cleveland because he needed superstars after losing as the favorite in 09' and 10'

Ultimately, Lebron's "spot-up shooter" brand doesn't develop young teammates or win frequently with super-teams

sdot_thadon
05-27-2019, 01:34 PM
Probably because they threw together a team that we all knew was a joke as they assembled it? And said team was injured throughout the season.

3ball
05-27-2019, 02:26 PM
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Ball-dominant, non-shooters like Giannis, Westbrook and Lebron don't have the touch to make this shot from this awkward distance and spot:


https://i.makeagif.com/media/5-25-2019/USGXmS.gif


Also, this shot doesn't use enough dribbling for lebron to execute.. And too much instinct/skill/footwork is required to know which direction to turn for the open shot

Sub-par midrange and 3-point shooters like Westbrook/Giannis/Lebron yield weaker teams than goat 3-point or midrange shooters Curry/MJ - the latter's shooting ability allowed them to play off teammates/off-ball, which facilitates ball movement and better brand of ball/teams..
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FreezingTsmoove
05-27-2019, 02:29 PM
Bran Ball

Trying to trade half the team twice, while having a winning record

Bron tearing his vag (groin injury)

Lizzie Ball going down with a season ending ankle sprain so Bron is forced to play PG even though he cant run an offense in todays game.... Bron ball doesnt work in 2019 you need ball movement

NBASTATMAN
05-27-2019, 03:03 PM
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jamesle01/on-off/2019


Lakers without Bron on the floor got worse on offense and defense.. LEBRON IS THE CLEAR GOAT..

HE DID THIS in a season where he was injured.. THERE IS NO ONE BETTER :bowdown:

NBASTATMAN
05-27-2019, 03:05 PM
Time of possession Playoffs

Lebron 2018 - 9.5 minutes

Kawhi 2019 - 5.3 minutes

Durant 2019 - 4.6 minutes

Giannis 2019 - 4.4 minutes


https://stats.nba.com/players/touches/?Season=2018-19&SeasonType=Playoffs&sort=TIME_OF_POSS&dir=1





KAWHI is playing with LOWRY an all star that can handle the ball and usually does.. Kawhi also has Pascal to handle the ball..

Lebron had GHILL who was hurt while playing last season in the playoffs.. THAT IS WHY GHILL MISSED games in the first round ..

EASY TO SHIT ON 3BALL BUT ITS NICE IN NYC so have a great day..

NBASTATMAN
05-27-2019, 03:06 PM
Bran Ball

Trying to trade half the team twice, while having a winning record

Bron tearing his vag (groin injury)

Lizzie Ball going down with a season ending ankle sprain so Bron is forced to play PG even though he cant run an offense in todays game.... Bron ball doesnt work in 2019 you need ball movement


This def hurt the LAKERS.. After this debacle the team just didnt want to play hard.. That is def Lebron's fault as well as MAGICS'

3ball
05-27-2019, 03:25 PM
KAWHI is playing with LOWRY an all star that can handle the ball and usually does.. Kawhi also has Pascal to handle the ball..

Lebron had GHILL who was hurt while playing last season in the playoffs.. THAT IS WHY GHILL MISSED games in the first round ..

EASY TO SHIT ON 3BALL BUT ITS NICE IN NYC so have a great day..
Lebron had a point-guard's time of possession his whole career

Alongside Mo, Chalmers and Kyrie, they all had a PG time of possession - lebron's presence was essentially a 2-PG lineup.. this is a big problem because lebron's high time for his position gave teammates have less time and opportunity to assist than they got in 1-PG lineups alongside normal forwards ..

With teammates being spot-uo shooters and getting less assists, the TEAM got less assists and struggled to compete on the championship level, 3/9... The common thread in lebron's Finals losses is massive deficits in team assists..

Ultimately, lebron's abnormal ball-dominance hurt ball movement and brand of ball because his skillset is limited live dribbling (ball-domination), and he lacks the elite shooting and repertoire/footwork to produce off-ball

bigkingsfan
05-27-2019, 03:41 PM
KAWHI is playing with LOWRY an all star that can handle the ball and usually does.. Kawhi also has Pascal to handle the ball..

Lebron had GHILL who was hurt while playing last season in the playoffs.. THAT IS WHY GHILL MISSED games in the first round ..

EASY TO SHIT ON 3BALL BUT ITS NICE IN NYC so have a great day..
Kawhi and Lowry actually has the same time of possession in the playoffs.

Spurs m8
05-27-2019, 03:58 PM
3ball out here killin it on the daily

superduper
05-27-2019, 04:22 PM
Wait... are you telling me basketball is not about a single individual player monopolizing his TEAM'S offense and holding it hostage in order to maximize his own INDIVIDUAL stats by forcing each and every single play to run through him no matter how inefficient it may be?

YOU DON'T SAY

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