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Bosnian Sajo
05-20-2019, 12:28 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/lakers/comments/bqwubb/clip_magic_admits_that_it_was_his_decision_to/


NOT Pelinka. Good riddance.

Bosnian Sajo
05-20-2019, 12:30 PM
Magic actually said on First Take that this Lakers job was a big commitment and he even gave up going to the movies on Sunday nights for it


This was the guy running our team. Seeeee yaaaa Magic, don't let the door hit you on the way out.

FKAri
05-20-2019, 12:48 PM
Lebron's fault.

RealSkipBayless
05-20-2019, 12:56 PM
Guy turns a bad contract into Kuzma and gets Lebron.

"good riddance"

Guess we should go back to the days of signing garbage vets to max contracts.

ImKobe
05-20-2019, 02:01 PM
Guy turns a bad contract into Kuzma and gets Lebron.

"good riddance"

Guess we should go back to the days of signing garbage vets to max contracts.

This :confusedshrug:

He made some good signings, dumped D'Lo and Mozgov's contract for Kuzma.. Not re-signing Lopez was the only real mistake he made, and he tried making up for it by trading Zubac for another shooting big man, who sadly wasn't as good as Brook.

Lopez wasn't that good for us last season though.. his 3PT% and attempts went up this year and he averaged 2.2 blocks in under 30 mpg, of course he wouldn't have been as good in our system.

jayfan
05-20-2019, 02:42 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/lakers/comments/bqwubb/clip_magic_admits_that_it_was_his_decision_to/


NOT Pelinka. Good riddance.

You weren't using Lopez properly in the first place.

theballerFKA Ace
05-20-2019, 02:44 PM
This :confusedshrug:

He made some good signings, dumped D'Lo and Mozgov's contract for Kuzma..

Naw Magic traded the bad contract and future all-star DLo for the 27th pick and Brook which he didn't want to resign for cheap. It was Jesse Buss who snagged them Kuz. Jesse Buss isn't even 30 yet but is already one of the best, if not the best, draft talent evaluators in the NBA.

fourkicks44
05-20-2019, 04:16 PM
Want to hear a funny joke?









Mike Muscala

:yaohappy:

Bosnian Sajo
05-20-2019, 08:19 PM
This :confusedshrug:

He made some good signings, dumped D'Lo and Mozgov's contract for Kuzma.. Not re-signing Lopez was the only real mistake he made, and he tried making up for it by trading Zubac for another shooting big man, who sadly wasn't as good as Brook.

Lopez wasn't that good for us last season though.. his 3PT% and attempts went up this year and he averaged 2.2 blocks in under 30 mpg, of course he wouldn't have been as good in our system.


Do you not see the baggage that Magic brought with him? He expected to work part time, barely be in the office, and STILL make all the bball decisions.

Go watch the interview. It was Magic offering all of our players for AD, it was Magic passing on Lopez, it was Magic who wanted Ty Lue and Luke out even though initially he made it seem like he was cool with Luke.

If ANYONE is shady here, it's Magic. The 2 good things he did were to get rid of the Mozgov contract (costed us Dlo...ik we got Kuz, but atm idk who I'd rather have since we could use a SG like Dlo) and sign Lebron. That's IT.


I'm much more confident about this team with Pelinka running the show and Jesse helping him (especially in the draft). Keep the 4th pick and sign 1 star free agent, and we will be just fine. As for center, pick up an athletic defender like Noel.

NBAGOAT
05-20-2019, 08:26 PM
those 1yr veteran picks last year werent a big deal but seriously reminded me of some of the moves doc made as gm for the clippers. Lets sign a veteran with name value who played well against us and/or had some nice looking stats. Not very good lol

Bosnian Sajo
05-20-2019, 08:51 PM
those 1yr veteran picks last year werent a big deal but seriously reminded me of some of the moves doc made as gm for the clippers. Lets sign a veteran with name value who played well against us and/or had some nice looking stats. Not very good lol

But that isn't even the issue that we are talking about...like you said, they were 1 year deals, who cares. Some of them ended up playing well for us, like Mcgee and Lance. Rondo was injury prone, that was his only issue.


It's all the other stuff. See my post directly above yours.

scuzzy
05-20-2019, 08:54 PM
but but but Lebron doe :oldlol:

NBAGOAT
05-20-2019, 09:14 PM
But that isn't even the issue that we are talking about...like you said, they were 1 year deals, who cares. Some of them ended up playing well for us, like Mcgee and Lance. Rondo was injury prone, that was his only issue.


It's all the other stuff. See my post directly above yours.

oh i'm blaming magic here lol for those :oldlol:

Spurs m8
05-20-2019, 09:26 PM
Guy turns a bad contract into Kuzma and gets Lebron.

"good riddance"

Guess we should go back to the days of signing garbage vets to max contracts.

They signed a garbage vet for $40m a season :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

brooks_thompson
05-20-2019, 10:22 PM
Want to hear a funny joke?









Mike Muscala

:yaohappy:

I truly laughed

Bosnian Sajo
05-21-2019, 12:13 PM
but but but Lebron doe :oldlol:

Ay mannnn, I fell for it too. I praised him when we picked up Bronny small dick and here I am eating crow.

lilteapot
05-21-2019, 12:21 PM
for the laker fans belaboring magic for not signing brook, did you see him being a sharpshooter he became in Milwaukee? Yeah he could shoot 3s in LA but he wasnt exactly chris bosh

Bosnian Sajo
05-21-2019, 12:34 PM
for the laker fans belaboring magic for not signing brook, did you see him being a sharpshooter he became in Milwaukee? Yeah he could shoot 3s in LA but he wasnt exactly chris bosh

Brook was stupid wet in LA just like he is in Milwaukee, for a center that is. Milwaukee he shoots 36.5% while in LA he shot 34.5%.


Point is, you can't go wrong signing Brook to the minimum. But that's just one mistake, it's the fact that he ACTUALLY wanted all the power while only being there once a month. Even Andrew Bogut talked about how he never saw Magic...

lilteapot
05-21-2019, 12:40 PM
Brook was stupid wet in LA just like he is in Milwaukee, for a center that is. Milwaukee he shoots 36.5% while in LA he shot 34.5%.


Point is, you can't go wrong signing Brook to the minimum. But that's just one mistake, it's the fact that he ACTUALLY wanted all the power while only being there once a month. Even Andrew Bogut talked about how he never saw Magic...
The difference is he's shooting 2% better on 2 more attempts per game than he shot in LA. He's a much improved shooter.

Bosnian Sajo
05-21-2019, 12:46 PM
The difference is he's shooting 2% better on 2 more attempts per game than he shot in LA. He's a much improved shooter.

Much improved?? Oh dude. Bro, go find a vest with a bunch of pockets. Put it on and take a hike.


Your logic would make sense if he went from 1 attempt to 3 attempts, but in LA he was already attempting 4.5 threes per game. If that's not enough volume for you to determine if he's a good three point shooter....then idk what to tell you.


In LA, we needed him down low as well since we didn't have Giannis bodying the paint like Milwaukee does. Because of this, only (ONLY...) 40% of Lopez's attempted field goals came from beyond the ark. In Milwaukee, literally 67% of all his field goals came from beyond the ark. That's why he attempted more 3's.


He became a much improved 3 point shooter in 2016, ever since then he's been shooting roughly the same percentage (34.6%, 34.5%, 36.5%).

Bosnian Sajo
05-21-2019, 12:51 PM
During the 17-18 season, the only centers to make more threes than Brook Lopez were KAT and Dirk. That's it.


Knowing that Lebron needs a stretch big to be effective....yes, it was a no brainer to keep Lopez on the team at the MLE!

East River Livn'
05-21-2019, 03:00 PM
for the laker fans belaboring magic for not signing brook, did you see him being a sharpshooter he became in Milwaukee? Yeah he could shoot 3s in LA but he wasnt exactly chris bosh

He traded away a good young back to the basket backup center for Mike Muscala because of spacing. Brook's shooting is just as good as Muscala but with better defense and intangibles. If Magic wanted spacing why didn't he just keep Lopez?

Bosnian Sajo
05-21-2019, 03:09 PM
If he wanted a stretch 5, why didn't he keep Thomas Bryant? Kid ended up starting 53 games for the Wizards out of 72 and averaged 10.5ppg/6.3rpg/1 block on 62% shooting and 33% from three, as well as being a solid free throw shooter for a big man.


We went from Lopez/Zubac/Bryant (all starters now) to Mcgee/Chandler/Muscala

ImKobe
05-21-2019, 04:51 PM
Naw Magic traded the bad contract and future all-star DLo for the 27th pick and Brook which he didn't want to resign for cheap. It was Jesse Buss who snagged them Kuz. Jesse Buss isn't even 30 yet but is already one of the best, if not the best, draft talent evaluators in the NBA.

Russell is a tad bit overrated here. He was a terrible locker room presence and didn't play much defense, I saw the all-star potential with how the league was becoming a 3-point shooting contest, but the trade opened up so much for us in terms of salary cap and having a pick to draft Kuzma in the first place.

Jesse can be a great scout, but we don't have the opportunity to draft Kuz without the pick. We had to give up someone to make cap space :confusedshrug: and Jeannie wanted us to draft Lonzo so D'lo wasn't going to fit with our roster anyway.

Overall he did his job well enough IMO. He was hired to be the President short-term to attract Lebron and other FAs while Pelinka learned the ropes and they were slowly pushing him out of there, so I get why he left after just two seasons.

RealSkipBayless
05-21-2019, 05:34 PM
Dudes are still overblowing D'angeslow.. incredible.

He puts up 21 points on 19 SHOTS... please he is an inefficient chucker. Does it suck that we lost him as an asset? Yes. But it had to be done due to the idiots handing out big contracts to scrubs.

Magic knew we were not going to be able to hang onto Zubac so he moved him for a piece that in theory would help us. Though as Lebron activated "playoff mode" we unraveled and it didn't matter.

People forget that we were in line for a ring THIS season if PG13 wasn't an emotional dumbass... Magic was doing great. Yep he didn't resign Lopez. Wow one mistake... Compare that to the previous clowns in charge.. and that is nothing in comparison.