Rank the MVP's since 2000

[G.O.A.T]

How do you rank them?

2017-18 James Harden, Houston Rockets
2016-17 Russell Westbrook, Oklahoma City Thunder
2015-16 Stephen Curry, Golden State Warriors
2014-15 Stephen Curry, Golden State Warriors
2013-14 Kevin Durant, Oklahoma City Thunder
2012-13 LeBron James, Miami Heat
2011-12 LeBron James, Miami Heat
2010-11 Derrick Rose, Chicago Bulls
2009-10 LeBron James, Cleveland Cavaliers
2008-09 LeBron James, Cleveland Cavaliers
2007-08 Kobe Bryant, Los Angeles Lakers
2006-07 Dirk Nowitzki, Dallas Mavericks
2005-06 Steve Nash, Phoenix Suns
2004-05 Steve Nash, Phoenix Suns
2003-04 Kevin Garnett, Minnesota Timberwolves
2002-03 Tim Duncan, San Antonio Spurs
2001-02 Tim Duncan, San Antonio Spurs
2000-01 Allen Iverson, Philadelphia 76ers
1999-00 Shaquille O'Neal, Los Angeles Lakers

[plowking]

This thread came at a good time.

Should be a lot of genuine, truthful answers.

[G.O.A.T]

1. 1999-00 Shaquille O'Neal, Los Angeles Lakers
2. 2011-12 LeBron James, Miami Heat
3. 2002-03 Tim Duncan, San Antonio Spurs
4. 2012-13 LeBron James, Miami Heat
5. 2008-09 LeBron James, Cleveland Cavaliers
6. 2003-04 Kevin Garnett, Minnesota Timberwolves
7. 2015-16 Stephen Curry, Golden State Warriors
8. 2013-14 Kevin Durant, Oklahoma City Thunder
9. 2001-02 Tim Duncan, San Antonio Spurs
10. 2009-10 LeBron James, Cleveland Cavaliers
11. 2014-15 Stephen Curry, Golden State Warriors
12. 2007-08 Kobe Bryant, Los Angeles Lakers
13. 2005-06 Steve Nash, Phoenix Suns
14. 2006-07 Dirk Nowitzki, Dallas Mavericks
15. 2017-18 James Harden, Houston Rockets
16. 2016-17 Russell Westbrook, Oklahoma City Thunder
17. 2000-01 Allen Iverson, Philadelphia 76ers
18. 2004-05 Steve Nash, Phoenix Suns
19. 2010-11 Derrick Rose, Chicago Bulls

[Meticode]

Rose and Nash definitely should get ranked at the bottom. That's all I know.

[TheCorporation]

#1
2013 = GOAT James run
ORtg = 125 *Highest tier, GOAT level
DRtg = 101


#2
2016 Curry
ORrg = 125
DRtg = 103

To hit 125 ORtg for a full season is ridiculous and only been done by 4 players in NBA history: Bron, Curry, KD, and MJ

[plowking]

1. 1999-00 Shaquille O'Neal, Los Angeles Lakers
2. 2011-12 LeBron James, Miami Heat
3. 2002-03 Tim Duncan, San Antonio Spurs
4. 2012-13 LeBron James, Miami Heat
5. 2008-09 LeBron James, Cleveland Cavaliers
6. 2003-04 Kevin Garnett, Minnesota Timberwolves
7. 2015-16 Stephen Curry, Golden State Warriors
8. 2013-14 Kevin Durant, Oklahoma City Thunder
9. 2001-02 Tim Duncan, San Antonio Spurs
10. 2009-10 LeBron James, Cleveland Cavaliers
11. 2014-15 Stephen Curry, Golden State Warriors
12. 2007-08 Kobe Bryant, Los Angeles Lakers
13. 2005-06 Steve Nash, Phoenix Suns
14. 2006-07 Dirk Nowitzki, Dallas Mavericks
15. 2017-18 James Harden, Houston Rockets
16. 2016-17 Russell Westbrook, Oklahoma City Thunder
17. 2000-01 Allen Iverson, Philadelphia 76ers
18. 2004-05 Steve Nash, Phoenix Suns
19. 2010-11 Derrick Rose, Chicago Bulls

I'd swap #7 and #3 with each other and looks pretty good.

Oh and #6 with #11.

[kennethgriffen]

2008 kobe was the olympic gold medal game mvp, took a team with no other allstars to the nba finals, beat prime tim duncan/manu/parker, averaged 28/6/5/2 with 36% threes, was 1st team all defense ontop

and was over 30ppg in the playoffs


he only lost the title due to injuries to bynum/ariza... and all they lacked was defense.. those 2 guys would have helped


that plus the all time status and he should easly be one of the top 5


but it wasn't even one of kobes 5 best seasons and the mvps a trash award based more on random agendas so whatever

[Dray n Klay]

Kobe's count as half an MVP cause that was a career achievement award that should've gone to CP3

[TheCorporation]

2008 kobe was the olympic gold medal game mvp, took a team with no other allstars to the nba finals, beat prime tim duncan/manu/parker, averaged 28/6/5/2 with 36% threes, was 1st team all defense ontop

and was over 30ppg in the playoffs


he only lost the title due to injuries to bynum/ariza... and all they lacked was defense.. those 2 guys would have helped


that plus the all time status and he should easly be one of the top 5


but it wasn't even one of kobes 5 best seasons and the mvps a trash award based more on random agendas so whatever

Why do MVPs and FMVPs hate Kobe so much :(

[kennethgriffen]

Kobe's count as half an MVP cause that was a career achievement award that should've gone to CP3


if you give 08 to paul then kobe gets 03, 06, 07 since wins don't matter as much as individual play

[TheCorporation]

if you give 08 to paul then kobe gets 03, 06, 07 since wins don't matter as much as individual play

Get a grip. Kobe is still top 15

[kennethgriffen]

Why do MVPs and FMVPs hate Kobe so much :(


because kobe followed jordan, was accused of rape, fought with shaq

[Rudeboy3]

you forgot 2018-2019 MVP, Giannis

[Manny98]

1. 13 LeBron
2. 12 LeBron
3. 00 Shaq
4. 09 LeBron
5. 03 Duncan
6. 16 Curry
7. 14 Durant
8. 15 Curry
9. 04 Garnett
10. 10 LeBron
11. 02 Duncan
12. 06 Nash
13. 18 Harden
14. 08 Kobe
15. 05 Nash
16. 01 Iverson
17. 07 Dirk
18. 17 Westbrook
19. 11 Rose

Based purely off regular season i'd move Curry up to number 2 but i have to knock him down a notch because of his finals choke

[TheCorporation]

1. 13 LeBron
2. 12 LeBron
3. 00 Shaq
4. 09 LeBron
5. 03 Duncan
6. 16 Curry
7. 14 Durant
8. 15 Curry
9. 04 Garnett
10. 10 LeBron
11. 02 Duncan
12. 06 Nash
13. 18 Harden
14. 08 Kobe
15. 05 Nash
16. 01 Iverson
17. 07 Dirk
18. 17 Westbrook
19. 11 Rose

VERY high IQ list :applause:

[G.O.A.T]

To hit 125 ORtg for a full season is ridiculous and only been done by 4 players in NBA history: Bron, Curry, KD, and MJ

You missed Chris Paul in 2013 and 2014 and 2017 and James Harden in 2016. Jokic in 2017 and 2018 and Gallinari in 2017. DeAndre in 2015, Darren Collison, Capela and Harden last year, Adrian Dantley in 1984, Gasol in 2009 and Horace Grant twice in the mid-nineties.

Barkley and McHale in 1988, Magic in 1990. Paul in 2013, Towns in '18, Barkley in '89, Terry Porter in 1991, Detlef Schrempf in '95 and Chauncey Billups in '06 and '08.

The Highest all-time is Barkley in 1990 with 128.

[SouBeachTalents]

I ain't ranking all of those. My top 5, based strictly on regular season, in semi order

2016 Curry
2000 Shaq
2013 LeBron
2004 KG
2014 Durant

[TheCorporation]

You missed Chris Paul in 2013 and 2014 and 2017 and James Harden in 2016. Jokic in 2017 and 2018 and Gallinari in 2017. DeAndre in 2015, Darren Collison, Capela and Harden last year, Adrian Dantley in 1984, Gasol in 2009 and Horace Grant twice in the mid-nineties.

Barkley and McHale in 1988, Magic in 1990. Paul in 2013, Towns in '18, Barkley in '89, Terry Porter in 1991, Detlef Schrempf in '95 and Chauncey Billups in '06 and '08.

The Highest all-time is Barkley in 1990 with 128.

We're not including role players :lol I thought just MVPs...But you're right I did miss Chuck and Magic :bowdown:

The rest were not MVP caliber or even starters. But yes, I need to include Chuck and Magic

[G.O.A.T]

1. 13 LeBron
2. 12 LeBron
3. 00 Shaq
4. 09 LeBron
5. 03 Duncan
6. 16 Curry
7. 14 Durant
8. 15 Curry
9. 04 Garnett
10. 10 LeBron
11. 02 Duncan
12. 06 Nash
13. 18 Harden
14. 08 Kobe
15. 05 Nash
16. 01 Iverson
17. 07 Dirk
18. 17 Westbrook
19. 11 Rose

Very close to mine, so obviously you're right.

[G.O.A.T]

I ain't ranking all of those. My top 5, based strictly on regular season, in semi order

2016 Curry
2000 Shaq
2013 LeBron
2004 KG
2014 Durant


Why '13 LeBron over '12 LeBron?

[SouBeachTalents]

Why '13 LeBron over '12 LeBron?
He was much more efficient, much better from 3, had better production across the board, won more games, won 27 in a row. Based strictly on regular season, why wouldn't I rate 2013 over 2012

[TheCorporation]

Why '13 LeBron over '12 LeBron?

:biggums:

Higher ORtg (125 goat tier)
Higher FG%
Higher 3P%
Fewer TO
More Reb, Assists, Blocks,

Higher Win Shares, PER, TS%

Like what lol 2013 was his best season


Oh, even higher VORP too :lol :D

[G.O.A.T]

He was much more efficient, much better from 3, had better production across the board, won more games, won 27 in a row. Based strictly on regular season, why wouldn't I rate 2013 over 2012


Now that I look, you are correct, I had the two seasons confused.

[kennethgriffen]

in terms of actual skill on both ends of the floor

#1 2007-08 Kobe Bryant, Los Angeles Lakers

#2 2002-03 Tim Duncan, San Antonio Spurs

#3 2001-02 Tim Duncan, San Antonio Spurs

#4 2003-04 Kevin Garnett, Minnesota Timberwolves

#5 1999-00 Shaquille O'Neal, Los Angeles Lakers

#6 2013-14 Kevin Durant, Oklahoma City Thunder

#7 2011-12 LeBron James, Miami Heat

#8 2000-01 Allen Iverson, Philadelphia 76ers





the rest aren't worth a damn



2017-18 James Harden, Houston Rockets ( choke )
2016-17 Russell Westbrook, Oklahoma City Thunder ( overrated )
2015-16 Stephen Curry, Golden State Warriors ( choke )
2014-15 Stephen Curry, Golden State Warriors ( overrated )
2012-13 LeBron James, Miami Heat ( choke )
2010-11 Derrick Rose, Chicago Bulls ( overrated )
2009-10 LeBron James, Cleveland Cavaliers ( overrated )
2008-09 LeBron James, Cleveland Cavaliers ( choke )
2006-07 Dirk Nowitzki, Dallas Mavericks ( choke )
2005-06 Steve Nash, Phoenix Suns ( overrated )
2004-05 Steve Nash, Phoenix Suns ( overrated )

[SouBeachTalents]

in terms of actual skill on both ends of the floor

#1 2007-08 Kobe Bryant, Los Angeles Lakers

#2 2002-03 Tim Duncan, San Antonio Spurs

#3 2001-02 Tim Duncan, San Antonio Spurs

#4 2003-04 Kevin Garnett, Minnesota Timberwolves

#5 1999-00 Shaquille O'Neal, Los Angeles Lakers

#6 2013-14 Kevin Durant, Oklahoma City Thunder

#7 2011-12 LeBron James, Miami Heat

#8 2000-01 Allen Iverson, Philadelphia 76ers





the rest aren't worth a damn



2017-18 James Harden, Houston Rockets ( choke )
2016-17 Russell Westbrook, Oklahoma City Thunder ( overrated )
2015-16 Stephen Curry, Golden State Warriors ( choke )
2014-15 Stephen Curry, Golden State Warriors ( overrated )
2012-13 LeBron James, Miami Heat ( choke )
2010-11 Derrick Rose, Chicago Bulls ( overrated )
2009-10 LeBron James, Cleveland Cavaliers ( overrated )
2008-09 LeBron James, Cleveland Cavaliers ( choke )
2006-07 Dirk Nowitzki, Dallas Mavericks ( choke )
2005-06 Steve Nash, Phoenix Suns ( overrated )
2004-05 Steve Nash, Phoenix Suns ( overrated )
Shocking :lol

And 2016 Curry's regular season >>>>>>>>>> 2008 Kobe's

[TheCorporation]

in terms of actual skill on both ends of the floor

#1 2007-08 Kobe Bryant, Los Angeles Lakers

#2 2002-03 Tim Duncan, San Antonio Spurs

#3 2001-02 Tim Duncan, San Antonio Spurs

#4 2003-04 Kevin Garnett, Minnesota Timberwolves

#5 1999-00 Shaquille O'Neal, Los Angeles Lakers

#6 2013-14 Kevin Durant, Oklahoma City Thunder

#7 2011-12 LeBron James, Miami Heat

#8 2000-01 Allen Iverson, Philadelphia 76ers





the rest aren't worth a damn



2017-18 James Harden, Houston Rockets ( choke )
2016-17 Russell Westbrook, Oklahoma City Thunder ( overrated )
2015-16 Stephen Curry, Golden State Warriors ( choke )
2014-15 Stephen Curry, Golden State Warriors ( overrated )
2012-13 LeBron James, Miami Heat ( choke )
2010-11 Derrick Rose, Chicago Bulls ( overrated )
2009-10 LeBron James, Cleveland Cavaliers ( overrated )
2008-09 LeBron James, Cleveland Cavaliers ( choke )
2006-07 Dirk Nowitzki, Dallas Mavericks ( choke )
2005-06 Steve Nash, Phoenix Suns ( overrated )
2004-05 Steve Nash, Phoenix Suns ( overrated )

This could be the best thing I've ever seen you post on this forum, and you've had some low IQ gems my good sir :applause:

[Celtics 1825]

1. 15-16 Curry
2. 12-13 LeBron
3. 99-00 Shaq
4. 09-10 LeBron
5. 08-09 LeBron
6. 13-14 Durant
7. 02-03 Duncan
8. 11-12 LeBron
9. 01-02 Duncan
10. 03-04 KG
11. 07-08 Kobe
12. 06-07 Dirk
13. 05-06 Nash
14. 17-18 Harden
15. 14-15 Curry
16. 00-01 Iverson
17. 04-05 Nash
18. 10-11 Rose
19. 16-17 Westbrook

[kennethgriffen]

Shocking :lol

And 2016 Curry's regular season >>>>>>>>>> 2008 Kobe's


the 4th quarter of game 7 kinda ruined it though don't yea think. that was all time bad. it actually vaulted lebron permanently ahead of curry for me. because even as bad as lebron was. he made that big block and hit his free throws. curry literally took a shit on the court and sat in it

[TheCorporation]

the 4th quarter of game 7 kinda ruined it though don't yea think. that was all time bad. it actually vaulted lebron permanently ahead of curry for me. because even as bad as lebron was. he made that big block and hit his free throws. curry literally took a shit on the court and sat in it

This is for the MVP (regular season) and you're mentioning the Finals? If that was the case then 2016 Curry would be very, maybe even lower than Kobe.

[SouBeachTalents]

the 4th quarter of game 7 kinda ruined it though don't yea think. that was all time bad. it actually vaulted lebron permanently ahead of curry for me. because even as bad as lebron was. he made that big block and hit his free throws. curry literally took a shit on the court and sat in it
If we're including playoffs than Kobe being ahead of '00 Shaq, '03 Duncan, '12 LeBron etc. looks even worse :lol

[kennethgriffen]

This is for the MVP (regular season) and you're mentioning the Finals? If that was the case then 2016 Curry would be very, maybe even lower than Kobe.


mvp rankings without hindsight is pointless.. then you might as well rank derrick rose #1


nash #2


i mean look at how great he made everyone else. who was d'antoni at the time. it was all nash's brilliance

[game3524]

2000-Shaq
2009-LeBron
2016-Curry
2010-LeBron
2013-LeBron
2014-Durant
2004-Garnett
2003-Duncan
2012-LeBron
2018-Harden
2015-Curry
2017-Westrook
2008-Kobe
2002-Duncan
2007-Dirk
2001-Iverson
2006-Nash
2011-Rose
2005-Nash

[LostCause]

I ain't ranking all of those. My top 5, based strictly on regular season, in semi order

2016 Curry
2000 Shaq
2013 LeBron
2004 KG
2014 Durant

Agree with this. Maybe swapping 09 LeBron at 5th

[TheCorporation]

If we're including playoffs than Kobe being ahead of '00 Shaq, '03 Duncan, '12 LeBron etc. looks even worse :lol

:lol

[egokiller]

None of LeBron's or Durant's count for the years they were involved in collusion.

[SouBeachTalents]

None of LeBron's or Durant's count for the years they were involved in collusion.
Durant won his in OKC dummy. And LeBron won 2 of his pre Miami

[Celtics 1825]

Durant won his in OKC dummy. And LeBron won 2 of his pre Miami
What an idiot :roll:

[SpaceJam2]

Durant won his in OKC dummy. And LeBron won 2 of his pre Miami

EgoKilled confirmed as another YouTube basketball watching fan :facepalm

[egokiller]

Durant won his in OKC dummy. And LeBron won 2 of his pre Miami

:facepalm

Which is why those are fine. Durant won his in 2014.

I said none of LeBron's or Durant's count for the years they were involved in collusion, which means 2012 and 2013 for LeBron don't count and any that Durant may win with GSW don't count.

I didn't say none of them counted at all.

I keep forgetting that reading comprehension here is not up to standard.

[Overdrive]

We're not including role players :lol I thought just MVPs...But you're right I did miss Chuck and Magic :bowdown:

The rest were not MVP caliber or even starters. But yes, I need to include Chuck and Magic

"CP3 should've won '08 MVP". "The rest were not MVP caliber.."

Which one is it?

[LAmbruh]

Durant won his in OKC dummy. And LeBron won 2 of his pre Miami
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[SouBeachTalents]

:facepalm

Which is why those are fine. Durant won his in 2014.

I said none of LeBron's or Durant's count for the years they were involved in collusion, which means 2012 and 2013 for LeBron don't count and any that Durant may win with GSW don't count.

I didn't say none of them counted at all.

I keep forgetting that reading comprehension here is not up to standard.
This is retarded. 3/5 of their MVP's came pre "collusion", and there's not a chance in hell Durant ever wins MVP if he does stay in Golden State past this season

[SamuraiSWISH]

Not all MVP awards are equal ...

Tier 1: MVP + Champion

1) Shaq 2000 - Finals MVP
2) LeBron 2013 - Finals MVP
3) Duncan 2003 - Finals MVP
4) LeBron 2012 - Finals MVP
5) Curry 2015

Tier 2: MVP + Finals Appearance

6) Kobe 2008 - 6 games
7) Iverson 2001 - 5 games

Tier 3: MVP + Conference Finals Appearance

8) LeBron 2009
9) Garnett 2004
10) D-Rose 2011
11) Nash 2006
12) Nash 2005
14) Harden 2018

Tier 4: MVP + Semis Appearance

15) Duncan 2002
16) LeBron 2010
17) Durant 2014

Tier 5: MVP + 1st Round Loser

18) Westbitch 2017
19) Dirk 2007

[Manny98]

1. 13 LeBron
2. 12 LeBron
3. 00 Shaq
4. 09 LeBron
5. 03 Duncan
6. 16 Curry
7. 14 Durant
8. 15 Curry
9. 04 Garnett
10. 10 LeBron
11. 02 Duncan
12. 06 Nash
13. 18 Harden
14. 08 Kobe
15. 05 Nash
16. 01 Iverson
17. 07 Dirk
18. 17 Westbrook
19. 11 Rose

Based purely off regular season i'd move Curry up to number 2 but i have to knock him down a notch because of his finals choke
Btw i'd probably slot Giannis at 11th just behind 2010 LeBron

[Manny98]

in terms of actual skill on both ends of the floor

#1 2007-08 Kobe Bryant, Los Angeles Lakers

#2 2002-03 Tim Duncan, San Antonio Spurs

#3 2001-02 Tim Duncan, San Antonio Spurs

#4 2003-04 Kevin Garnett, Minnesota Timberwolves

#5 1999-00 Shaquille O'Neal, Los Angeles Lakers

#6 2013-14 Kevin Durant, Oklahoma City Thunder

#7 2011-12 LeBron James, Miami Heat

#8 2000-01 Allen Iverson, Philadelphia 76ers





the rest aren't worth a damn



2017-18 James Harden, Houston Rockets ( choke )
2016-17 Russell Westbrook, Oklahoma City Thunder ( overrated )
2015-16 Stephen Curry, Golden State Warriors ( choke )
2014-15 Stephen Curry, Golden State Warriors ( overrated )
2012-13 LeBron James, Miami Heat ( choke )
2010-11 Derrick Rose, Chicago Bulls ( overrated )
2009-10 LeBron James, Cleveland Cavaliers ( overrated )
2008-09 LeBron James, Cleveland Cavaliers ( choke )
2006-07 Dirk Nowitzki, Dallas Mavericks ( choke )
2005-06 Steve Nash, Phoenix Suns ( overrated )
2004-05 Steve Nash, Phoenix Suns ( overrated )
How is 2013 LeBron considered a choke when he won

Whereas Kobe who lost and put up a worse performance than LeBron in 2013 is your number 1 fukk outta here

The greatest MVP of the 2000s getting blown off the floor by the Celtics whilst shooting a pathetic 7-22 facing elimination

https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200806170BOS.html

[SpaceJam2]

How is 2013 LeBron considered a choke when he won

Whereas Kobe who lost and put up a worse performance than LeBron in 2013 is your number 1 fukk outta here

The greatest MVP of the 2000s getting blown off the floor by the Celtics whilst shooting a pathetic 7-22 facing elimination

https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200806170BOS.html

Incoming: MannyBomb

Boom.:applause:

[Jacques Webster]

Reading this thread makes Kenny look more and more like a retard. More than he already is.

[Odinn]

1. 2000 Shaq
2. 2013 LeBron
3. 2004 Garnett

4. 2002 Duncan*
5. 2010 LeBron
6. 2016 Curry
7. 2012 LeBron
8. 2017 Westbrook
9. 2010 LeBron
10. 2003 Duncan
11. 2014 Durant
12. 2018 Harden
13. 2007 Nowitzki

14. 2015 Curry
15. 2008 Kobe
16. 2006 Nash

17. 2001 Iverson

18. 2011 Rose
19. 2005 Nash

*: I think people should know that Duncan averaged more points than twice of his 2nd option Robinson (25.5 to 12.2)

Edit: This ranking is strictly about regular season. If playoffs get included Duncan in '03 and Shaq in '00 would be the top 2.

[And1AllDay]

Reading this thread makes Kenny look more and more like a retard. More than he already is.

He lost some touch with reality but he will snap back he is a fighter

[ArbitraryWater]

2009 LeBron gotta be 1-3, my #1

[SamuraiSWISH]

1. 2000 Shaq
2. 2013 LeBron
3. 2004 Garnett

4. 2002 Duncan*
5. 2010 LeBron
6. 2016 Curry
7. 2012 LeBron
8. 2017 Westbrook
9. 2010 LeBron
10. 2003 Duncan
11. 2014 Durant
12. 2018 Harden
13. 2007 Nowitzki

14. 2015 Curry
15. 2008 Kobe
16. 2006 Nash

17. 2001 Iverson

18. 2011 Rose
19. 2005 Nash

*: I think people should know that Duncan averaged more points than twice of his 2nd option Robinson (25.5 to 12.2)

Edit: This ranking is strictly about regular season. If playoffs get included Duncan in '03 and Shaq in '00 would be the top 2.
2002 Duncan got knocked out in the second round. How do you have the audacity to have him where he is on this list?

How is 2007 Dirk not last on everybody’s list?

The slander against Derrick Rose is ridiculous. Dirk got knocked out with a 67 win team in the first round to an eight seed. It wasn’t even a competitive series.

[SouBeachTalents]

[QUOTE=SamuraiSWISH]2002 Duncan got knocked out in the second round. How do you have the audacity to have him where he is on this list?

How is 2007 Dirk not last on everybody

[BigShotBob]

[QUOTE=SamuraiSWISH]2002 Duncan got knocked out in the second round. How do you have the audacity to have him where he is on this list?

How is 2007 Dirk not last on everybody

[Gougou]

If it is regular season it is prob:



2000 Shaq
2016 Curry

2010 James (more pt, higher fg%, more assists)
2009 James
2013 James (this season james has 57% FG tho it is quite underrated)

[Odinn]

The postseason is literally irrelevant to the MVP discussion. The thread isn't about who had the most successful postseason, it's ranking their MVP regular seasons
He's too idiot to realize that. Leave him be.

[SamuraiSWISH]

The postseason is literally irrelevant to the MVP discussion. The thread isn't about who had the most successful postseason, it's ranking their MVP regular seasons
OK, then basing the ranking strictly in retrospect on regular season alone, the only difference is you would have from the various MVP winners is the record they led their team to.

Which is stupid.

If we’re ranking the MVP winners from the decade, I’m taking the entire season into account when doing so.

Derrick Rose, and Steve Nash are being hideously disrespected here.

Conversely, some admittedly better all time players than Rose / Nash or even Iverson, are having individual seasons overrated AF here. The Duncan one I just mentioned.

Dirks is the absolute worse MVP award winner on this entire list or for the past three decades. Actually, I’m just going to come out and say it, it’s the worst MVP season of all time.

Maybe because their physical stature in comparison to everybody else on this list, or their skin color, or what happened to them after their MVP season like Rose but those two guys underrated none the less.

[SouBeachTalents]

OK, then basing the ranking strictly in retrospect on regular season alone, the only difference is you would have from the various MVP winners is the record they led their team to.

Which is stupid.

If we’re ranking the MVP winners from the decade, I’m taking the entire season into account when doing so.

Derrick Rose, and Steve Nash are being hideously disrespected here.

Conversely, some admittedly better all time players than Rose / Nash or even Iverson, are having individual seasons overrated AF here. The Duncan one I just mentioned.

Dirks is the absolute worse MVP award winner on this entire list or for the past three decades. Actually, I’m just going to come out and say it, it’s the worst MVP season of all time.

Maybe because their physical stature in comparison to everybody else on this list, or their skin color, or what happened to them after their MVP season like Rose but those two guys underrated none the less.
The worst MVP of all time is Karl Malone in 1999 and it isn't even close. Statistically it wasn't even a top 10 season of his career. I mean that literally, look it up, nobody's topping that sham of an MVP season ever

And if you're going to focus most of all on the playoffs, then you could probably argue '07 Dirk as being the worst MVP. But what he did in the regular season, winning 67 games in the West with Josh Howard & Jason Terry as his best teammates? That was impressive as hell, and nobody besides the 73 win Warriors has surpassed that total since

[SamuraiSWISH]

No.

Dirk Nowitzki with a 67 win team, losing to an eight seed in the first round without even going a full seven games, and being significantly controlled by Steven Jackson ... is the worst MVP of all time.

My man accepted the award in a press conference, and was just shaking his head in his own embarrassment.

Is anyone going to be another two dimensional thinker without nuance, and call me a racist?

Once again. White Dirk Nowitzki is the worst MVP winner, and worst MVP season of all time.

[Duncan21formvp]

1. 2003 Duncan
2. 2000 Shaq