If LeBron was outplayed by Shawn Kemp but still won FMVP

[TheCorporation]

Would he get any criticism? :lol

Would the media and fans let it slide? :lol

[warriorfan]

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[TheCorporation]

0/11 FMVP votes in 2015

YIKES

https://i.postimg.cc/nV3YxtCC/ap-nba-finals-warriors-cavaliers-basketball-73676978.jpg

[Dray n Klay]

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The dude that shat on Kobe in the 2011 playoffs? :lol

[Akrazotile]

The dude that shat on Kobe in the 2011 playoffs? :lol


Crazy thing is Curry has yet to HAVE a playoff run as strong as Jason Terry in 2011.


Im not sure Curry can realistically be put ABOVE Jason Terry all time, if we really wanna be real about it :biggums:

[warriorfan]

https://closeup360.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Jason-Terry-e1544571252887.jpg

[TheCorporation]

The dude that shat on Kobe in the 2011 playoffs? :lol

https://media.giphy.com/media/14ceV8wMLIGO6Q/giphy.gif

[TheCorporation]

Crazy thing is Curry has yet to HAVE a playoff run as strong as Jason Terry in 2011.


Im not sure Curry can realistically be put ABOVE Jason Terry all time, if we really wanna be real about it :biggums:

https://media.giphy.com/media/14ceV8wMLIGO6Q/giphy.gif

[3ball]

The MVP award was given based on the first 3 games when the series was still in the balance

Btw, the sonics had a better cast and their top 5 players all outplayed pippen's woat 15 on 34% performance.. :facepalm

And understand that MJ hit the big shot or had the big game in every Finals:


1991:. hits game-tie'er in game 3 and dominates OT to prevent 2-1 deficit with the next 2 games in LA

1992:. 46 points in critical game 5 to take 3-2 lead

1993:. hits game-sealing shot in game 5 over Barkley, as Barkley wallows in iconic defeat (https://i.makeagif.com/media/7-13-2015/QmCJlv.gif).. the series was over at that point.. this is how I envision MJ beating lebron

1996:. scores a series-high 36 on the road in game 3 to shut the door on Sonics (3-0 lead)

1997:. game 1 game winner and CRITICAL game 5 flu game to take 3-2 lead

1998:. when anyone says "game 6", they're talking about MJ's goat clutch in the 98' Finals


Obviously, lebron can't touch this level of clutch.. infact, he has chokes in every Finals

[And1AllDay]

The dude that shat on Kobe in the 2011 playoffs? :lol

https://media.giphy.com/media/14ceV8wMLIGO6Q/giphy.gif

[And1AllDay]

The MVP award was given based on the first 3 games when the series was still in the balance

Btw, the sonics had a better cast and their top 5 players all outplayed pippen's woat 15 on 34% performance.. :facepalm

And understand that MJ hit the big shot or had the big game in every Finals:


1991:. hits game-tie'er in game 3 and dominates OT to prevent 2-1 deficit with the next 2 games in LA

1992:. 46 points in critical game 5 to take 3-2 lead

1993:. hits game-sealing shot in game 5 over Barkley, as Barkley wallows in iconic defeat (https://i.makeagif.com/media/7-13-2015/QmCJlv.gif).. the series was over at that point.. this is how I envision MJ beating lebron

1996:. scores a series-high 36 on the road in game 3 to shut the door on Sonics

1997:. game 1 game winner and CRITICAL game 5 flu game to take 3-2 lead

1998:. when anyone says "game 6", they're talking about MJ's goat clutch in the 98' Finals


Obviously, lebron can't touch this level of clutch.. infact, he has chokes in every Finals

Hol up Mike did all this clutch stuff all these crazy shots and Bron still got more game winners :lebronamazed:

https://media.giphy.com/media/14ceV8wMLIGO6Q/giphy.gif

[3ball]

Hol up Mike did all this clutch stuff all these crazy shots and Bron still got more game winners :lebronamazed:

https://media.giphy.com/media/14ceV8wMLIGO6Q/giphy.gif
Lies.. Lebron has zero game-winners in the Finals, despite a zillion conference-dependant appearances..

zero

O

nada


Furthermore, MJ has far more winners thru 179 games and against better teams (not weak teams like lebron), and obviously has FAR better overall clutch and 4th quarter stats

So keep dreaming kid

Oh, and enjoy the playoffs.. :oldlol:

[And1AllDay]

Lies.. Lebron has zero game-winners in the Finals, despite a zillion conference-dependant appearances..

zero

O

nada


Furthermore, MJ has far more winners thru 179 games and against better teams (not weak teams like lebron), and obviously has FAR better overall clutch and 4th quarter stats

So keep dreaming kid

Oh, and enjoy the playoffs.. :oldlol:

Dont make me dig up that playoffs game winner pic

Okay thats it Im getting it since you didnt learn your lesson

https://i.postimg.cc/Jnd16J6V/Bron-gw-post.jpg

[FreezingTsmoove]

https://closeup360.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Jason-Terry-e1544571252887.jpg

:lol

[Bawkish]

Dont make me dig up that playoffs game winner pic

Okay thats it Im getting it since you didnt learn your lesson

https://i.postimg.cc/Jnd16J6V/Bron-gw-post.jpg

FINALS

you can't be this dumb

[kennethgriffen]

https://media.giphy.com/media/14ceV8wMLIGO6Q/giphy.gif


its not really a "boom" moment when you consider kobe was injured and limited to 30mpg all season then immediately had a knee procedure done after the playoffs


we all saw how kobe played that year. it was substandard



lebron on the other hand was in his absolute prime

[sportjames23]

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First.



Post.



SLAY.


:roll: :roll: :roll:

[Poetry]

Dont make me dig up that playoffs game winner pic

Okay thats it Im getting it since you didnt learn your lesson

https://i.postimg.cc/Jnd16J6V/Bron-gw-post.jpg

LeBron's percentage is wrong. It should read .409.

But don't worry, I'll keep bumping my thread with the correct averages until everyone is informed.

[FKAri]

Should've won the 2015 FMVP. It was one of his most underrated finals performances.

[TheCorporation]

FINALS

you can't be this dumb
https://i.postimg.cc/Jnd16J6V/Bron-gw-post.jpg

👀👀

PLAYOFFS

you cant be thia dumb

[LostCause]

Kemp didn't outplay Jordan. Watch the series instead of repeating talking points by folks who have no idea what they're talking about

[TheCorporation]

Kemp didn't outplay Jordan. Watch the series instead of repeating talking points by folks who have no idea what they're talking about

Sorry for this :(

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1996-06-17-9606170151-story,amp.html

And Kemp had a higher GameScore than MJ.

So yes, outplayed.

[LostCause]

Sorry for this :(

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1996-06-17-9606170151-story,amp.html

And Kemp had a higher GameScore than MJ.

So yes, outplayed.

Article just says he finished a close second, which we already knew. That doesn't mean outplayed. Just means he also played very well and could've won it too

Also, "Gamescore"? Seriously? We just using that now? Okay. So by your logic, Durant outplayed LeBron in the 2017 Finals then, correct?

Also, if we're going by Gamescore, Jordans average Finals Gamescore is higher than LeBron's, so he outplayed him in the Finals, according to you

Jordans average Finals Gamescore = 24.68
LeBrons average Finals Gamescore = 22.43

Sorry for that

[TheCorporation]

Article just says he finished a close second, which we already knew. That doesn't mean outplayed. Just means he also played very well and could've won it too

Also, "Gamescore"? Seriously? We just using that now? Okay. So by your logic, Durant outplayed LeBron in the 2017 Finals then, correct?

Also, if we're going by Gamescore, Jordans average Finals Gamescore is higher than LeBron's, so he outplayed him in the Finals, according to you

Jordans average Finals Gamescore = 24.68
LeBrons average Finals Gamescore = 22.43

Sorry for that

I'll say it slowly for you.

In 1996 Michael Jordan won Finals MVP but Shawn Kemp, on the opposing team, had a higher game score.

[superduper]

I'll say it slowly for you.

In 1996 Michael Jordan won Finals MVP but Shawn Kemp, on the opposing team, had a higher game score.

Why did Wade in 2012 and 2013 have higher Gamescore than LeGOAT in 2011?

[Mr Feeny]

The MVP award was given based on the first 3 games when the series was still in the balance

Btw, the sonics had a better cast and their top 5 players all outplayed pippen's woat 15 on 34% performance.. :facepalm

And understand that MJ hit the big shot or had the big game in every Finals:


1991:. hits game-tie'er in game 3 and dominates OT to prevent 2-1 deficit with the next 2 games in LA

1992:. 46 points in critical game 5 to take 3-2 lead

1993:. hits game-sealing shot in game 5 over Barkley, as Barkley wallows in iconic defeat (https://i.makeagif.com/media/7-13-2015/QmCJlv.gif).. the series was over at that point.. this is how I envision MJ beating lebron



1996:. scores a series-high 36 on the road in game 3 to shut the door on Sonics (3-0 lead)

1997:. game 1 game winner and CRITICAL game 5 flu game to take 3-2 lead

1998:. when anyone says "game 6", they're talking about MJ's goat clutch in the 98' Finals


Obviously, lebron can't touch this level of clutch.. infact, he has chokes in every Finals


The shot over Barkley was in game 4. That was to give the Bulls a 3-1 lead. The Suns were trying to get a stop, down 2 with a chance to tie or win the game if they got that stop. Jordan hit the shot and then the freethrow to make it a 5 point lead and seal the game, and the finals.

[LostCause]

I'll say it slowly for you.

In 1996 Michael Jordan won Finals MVP but Shawn Kemp, on the opposing team, had a higher game score.

Cool observation. Curious, does Gamescore determine who's the better performer?

[TheCorporation]

Cool observation. Curious, does Gamescore determine who's the better performer?

Um...lol

[superduper]

Why did Wade in 2012 and 2013 have higher Gamescore than LeGOAT in 2011?

Yo Corp I think you accidentally missed this

[3ball]

Um...lol
Game Score for first 3 games (3-0)


Jordan. - 23.7 (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01/gamelog/1996/#134-136-sum:pgl_basic_playoffs)
S Kemp - 19.6 (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/k/kempsh01/gamelog-advanced/1996/#57-59-sum:pgl_advanced_playoffs)



After that, MJ was "the most relaxed (he'd) ever been" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfAoaAb3Nc0&t=42m32s) in the locker room before Game 4, because "a 3-0 lead makes you a little more relaxed" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfAoaAb3Nc0&t=42m32s), while Kemp was frothing at the mouth for the opportunity to save some face.. #contextmatters
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[TheCorporation]

Yo Corp I think you accidentally missed this

What does that question even mean?

I've broken this down for you very simply

2011: Wade ball = no chip
2012: Bron ball = chip
2013: Bron ball = chip

Any questions?

[Big164]

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/tTYiJ7OLGi4/hqdefault.jpg

[TheCorporation]

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/tTYiJ7OLGi4/hqdefault.jpg

Blake Griffin, essentially.

[LostCause]

Um...lol

I'll make it simpler for you to grasp. You said this:


Kemp had a higher GameScore than MJ.

So yes, outplayed.

So to you, higher GameScore = Better play. So let's extend that logic elsewhere...

In the 2017 Finals, Durant had a higher GameScore than LeBron, which means he outplayed LeBron

For their careers, Jordan has a higher Gamescore than LeBron. Which means he's a better career Finals performer

This is all using your logic, btw. You dudes aren't very bright, you basically refute your own arguments lol

[warriorfan]

I'll make it simpler for you to grasp. You said this:



So to you, higher GameScore = Better play. So let's extend that logic elsewhere...

In the 2017 Finals, Durant had a higher GameScore than LeBron, which means he outplayed LeBron

For their careers, Jordan has a higher Gamescore than LeBron. Which means he's a better career Finals performer

This is all using your logic, btw. You dudes aren't very bright, you basically refute your own arguments lol

Hey man stop wasting your time. This guys entire shctick is to just purposefully make the worse arguements ever and get constantly ethered. If it

[TheCorporation]

I'll make it simpler for you to grasp. You said this:



So to you, higher GameScore = Better play. So let's extend that logic elsewhere...

In the 2017 Finals, Durant had a higher GameScore than LeBron, which means he outplayed LeBron

For their careers, Jordan has a higher Gamescore than LeBron. Which means he's a better career Finals performer

This is all using your logic, btw. You dudes aren't very bright, you basically refute your own arguments lol

Competiton? Against? :lol
Everyone knows Jordan has 6 Rings.

Everyone knows he put up good numbers, but who did he beat?

[Vino24]

Competiton? Against? :lol
Everyone knows Jordan has 6 Rings.

Everyone knows he put up good numbers, but who did he beat?
Well he did beat that one white boy who couldn

[TheCorporation]

Imagine LeBron getting outplayed by Blake Griffin in the Finals and still winning FMVP

Jesus Jordan is so bad..

[Leviathon1121]

Imagine LeBron getting outplayed by Blake Griffin in the Finals and still winning FMVP

Jesus Jordan is so bad..
Still the consensus GOAT, must mean LeBron is worse then bad.

[3ball]

Competiton? Against? :lol
Everyone knows Jordan has 6 Rings.

Everyone knows he put up good numbers, but who did he beat?


The Lakers/Celtics killer (bad boys) and Shaq/Duncan killer (jazz)

Whereas Bron beat the nobody-killer spurs and ditto warriors unless you think westbrook is a tough out

And btw, lebron needed an extra all-star/HOF to win than MJ - give MJ an extra all-star, and he sweep any team in history, let alone the bad boys and jazz that he beat with just 1 all-star

[Duncan21formvp]

Imagine LeBron getting outplayed by Blake Griffin in the Finals and still winning FMVP

Jesus Jordan is so bad..
He got outplayed by Carlos Arroyo in the olympics, Tony Parker in the finals, Jason Terry in the finals, Kawhi Leonard in the finals as a rookie, Andre Iguodala as well also Rondo in 2010 with HCA and of course a career loser in Dwight Howard.

[3ball]

Kemp didn't outplay Jordan when it mattered:



Game Score for first 3 games (3-0)



Jordan. - 23.7 (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01/gamelog/1996/#134-136-sum:pgl_basic_playoffs)
S Kemp - 19.6 (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/k/kempsh01/gamelog-advanced/1996/#57-59-sum:pgl_advanced_playoffs)



After that, MJ was "the most relaxed (he'd) ever been" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfAoaAb3Nc0&t=42m32s) in the locker room before Game 4, because "a 3-0 lead makes you a little more relaxed" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfAoaAb3Nc0&t=42m32s), while the sonics were frothing at the mouth for the opportunity to save some face.. #contextmatters

[Leviathon1121]

He got outplayed by Carlos Arroyo in the olympics, Tony Parker in the finals, Jason Terry in the finals, Kawhi Leonard in the finals as a rookie, Andre Iguodala as well also Rondo in 2010 with HCA and of course a career loser in Dwight Howard.
Yikes

[MJistheGOAT]

He got outplayed by Carlos Arroyo in the olympics, Tony Parker in the finals, Jason Terry in the finals, Kawhi Leonard in the finals as a rookie, Andre Iguodala as well also Rondo in 2010 with HCA and of course a career loser in Dwight Howard.

And still being considered a GOAT candidate by his stans and LeESPN???
Ugh

[TheCorporation]

Kemp didn't outplay Jordan when it mattered:



Game Score for first 3 games (3-0)



Jordan. - 23.7 (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01/gamelog/1996/#134-136-sum:pgl_basic_playoffs)
S Kemp - 19.6 (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/k/kempsh01/gamelog-advanced/1996/#57-59-sum:pgl_advanced_playoffs)



After that, MJ was "the most relaxed (he'd) ever been" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfAoaAb3Nc0&t=42m32s) in the locker room before Game 4, because "a 3-0 lead makes you a little more relaxed" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfAoaAb3Nc0&t=42m32s), while the sonics were frothing at the mouth for the opportunity to save some face.. #contextmatters

:lol What is all this shit?

Kemp had a higher GameScore than Jordan in the SAME NBA Finals

1996

Kemp vs Jordan

Kemp > Jordan

What are you babbling on about?

[LostCause]

The corporation is actually shitting on LeBron averaging a triple double in the Finals by admitting that Durant outplayed him anyway in 2017, while LeBron averaged a triple double that series and Durant was nowhere close. So much for that

As said, you morons argue against yourselves

[TheCorporation]

The corporation is actually shitting on LeBron averaging a triple double in the Finals by admitting that Durant outplayed him anyway in 2017, while LeBron averaged a triple double that series and Durant was nowhere close. So much for that

As said, you morons argue against yourselves

Oh no way I didn't know LeBron James I won the finals MVP in 2017. Tell me more genius

[LostCause]

Oh no way I didn't know LeBron James I won the finals MVP in 2017. Tell me more genius

You’re not very bright are you :lol

Kemp didn’t win, but according to you he outplayed Jordan due to GameScore. LeBron didn’t win, but he also had a LOWER GameScore than Durant in 2017.

So you obviously agree 100% Durant outplayed LeBron. So much for that triple double being so amazing, Durant outplayed him without coming CLOSE to averaging one