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Poetry
02-14-2019, 07:49 PM
"In the final 24 seconds of the 4th quarter or overtime, LeBron James has never made a potential game-tying or go-ahead shot in a potential series clincher, when facing elimination or in the NBA Finals."

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DbrziTVWAAIP7aY.jpg

https://twitter.com/espnstatsinfo/status/989504369417580552

Here are LeBron's updated numbers after the 2018 playoffs.

In all years, in the playoffs, in the 4th quarter or overtime, 0:24 or less left in quarter, shot to tie or take lead:

LeBron 10/27 (.370)
http://bkref.com/tiny/1zUMQ

In all years, in the playoffs, in the 4th quarter or overtime, 0:10 or less left in quarter, shot to tie or take lead:

LeBron 9/22 (.409)
http://bkref.com/tiny/tB6ff


I had to recreate this thread. Is there any reason the old one was deleted?

aj1987
02-14-2019, 07:59 PM
Was just checking Kobe’s and he’s, ironically, 6/24 with 24 seconds left.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/shot_finder.cgi?request=1&match=play&game_num_min=0&game_num_max=99&is_playoffs=Y&q4=Y&q5=Y&time_remain_minutes=0&time_remain_seconds=24&time_remain_comp=le&is_tying=Y&is_go_ahead=Y&player_id=bryanko01&order_by=fg


4/18 with 10 seconds left.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/shot_finder.cgi?request=1&match=play&game_num_min=0&game_num_max=99&is_playoffs=Y&q4=Y&q5=Y&time_remain_minutes=0&time_remain_seconds=10&time_remain_comp=le&is_tying=Y&is_go_ahead=Y&player_id=bryanko01&order_by=fg

andgar923
02-14-2019, 08:02 PM
Do we have 4th quarter stats in general?

Gus Hemmingway
02-14-2019, 08:05 PM
Sick clutch stats


Found some 2018 data on BBref after calculating some numbers also:



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https://i.imgflip.com/29ha16.gif

aj1987
02-14-2019, 08:08 PM
Do we have 4th quarter stats in general?
I made a thread a while back and did it for a shit ton of Players. Not sure if it still exists. Want to search for it? IIRC, I named it “4th quarter stats of All-Stars”.

The only seasons of MJ’s available were ‘97 and ‘98. IIRC, he averaged ~10 PPG on ~50% in ‘97 and ~10 PPG on sub 40% in ‘98.

EDIT:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=424725


Yep. ****ing Jeff deleted it.

hold this L
02-14-2019, 08:11 PM
[QUOTE=aj1987]Was just checking Kobe

Mr. Jabbar
02-14-2019, 08:12 PM
cool

do we have his 2011 finals stats?

Spurs m8
02-14-2019, 08:12 PM
Yowza, this would explain why he always defers when the team is behind....dude can't hit a bucket to save his life when its needed most

aj1987
02-14-2019, 08:14 PM
https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/shot_finder.cgi?request=1&match=single&game_num_min=0&game_num_max=99&is_playoffs=Y&q4=Y&q5=Y&time_remain_minutes=0&time_remain_seconds=24&time_remain_comp=le&player_id=curryst01&order_by=fg

Did I do this right? :confusedshrug:
Yep. Curry’s 10/23 for his career. Can you also do it with 10 seconds remaining?

I’ll do it for all the good players today and the top 50 GOAT’s when I have a couple of hours to kill.


Yowza, this would explain why he always defers when the team is behind....dude can't hit a bucket to save his life when its needed most
What do you think about Kobe’s 6/24 and 4/18, cuck m8?

Poetry
02-14-2019, 08:14 PM
Yep. ****ing Jeff deleted it.

Why are threads being deleted? :(

aj1987
02-14-2019, 08:18 PM
Why are threads being deleted? :(
Shitty servers and Jeff being cheap AF, I guess.

Literally all the good threads are gone.

Poetry
02-14-2019, 08:39 PM
[QUOTE=aj1987]Yep. Curry

Real14
02-14-2019, 08:41 PM
cool

do we have his 2011 finals stats?
It would be too embarrassing right?:lol

Real14
02-14-2019, 08:42 PM
A great thread by the OP tho:applause:

aj1987
02-14-2019, 08:44 PM
Curry is 4/11 under 24 seconds in the 4th and OT.
http://bkref.com/tiny/DUNkc

2/7 under 10 seconds.
http://bkref.com/tiny/YVt2b
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Poetry
02-14-2019, 08:53 PM
I’ll do it for all the good players today and the top 50 GOAT’s when I have a couple of hours to kill.

Quick tutorial for anyone that is interested in helping.

Go to: https://www.basketball-reference.com

Search for a player (ex: Steph Curry)

Below the Name, Age, College, etc information, you'll see an orange section called (Steph Curry Overview).

To the right of Steph Curry Overview, hover over MORE.

Find Shot Finder.

In Shot Finder, make sure these fields are selected:

Search for Single Shots matching criteria (e.g., all 4th quarter shots to take lead in final 0:05 in 2010-11)

Playoffs

4th and OT.

Shot to Tie
Shot to Take the Lead

Time Left in Quarter 0:24 or less.

Get results.

Play-by-play data available for the 2000-01 through 2018-19 seasons.

Mr Feeny
02-14-2019, 10:48 PM
I’m confused. Why does the other link says that he’s 10/23 with 24 seconds left?

Poetry summed it up.

NBASTATMAN
02-14-2019, 10:53 PM
[QUOTE=aj1987]Was just checking Kobe

NBASTATMAN
02-14-2019, 10:54 PM
Do we have 4th quarter stats in general?


kobe under 30 percent :lol

knicksman
02-14-2019, 11:02 PM
just like his stats lacks substance. the same is true with his gamewinners. Hes zero in game tying or go ahead. His gamewinners are just another manufacturing done by nba. Theres a reason why most of them happened last 2 postseasons. Same time when refs are trying to keep the game close to make him shoot gamewinners. This league is a joke. Its on the same level as WWE nowadays.

Poetry
03-15-2019, 06:09 AM
Public Service Announcement.

The following image is not accurate. LeBron's percentage is incorrect.


Dont make me dig up that playoffs game winner pic

Okay thats it Im getting it since you didnt learn your lesson

https://i.postimg.cc/Jnd16J6V/Bron-gw-post.jpg


Here is the correct percentage.

In all years, in the playoffs, in the 4th quarter or overtime, 0:24 or less left in quarter, shot to tie or take lead:

LeBron 10/27 (.370)
http://bkref.com/tiny/1zUMQ

In all years, in the playoffs, in the 4th quarter or overtime, 0:10 or less left in quarter, shot to tie or take lead:

LeBron 9/22 (.409)
http://bkref.com/tiny/tB6ff

I will periodically bump this thread to make sure the public stays informed.

Manny98
03-15-2019, 06:47 AM
https://i.postimg.cc/Bnj1SP2M/download-2.jpg

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Manny98
03-15-2019, 06:50 AM
[QUOTE=aj1987]Was just checking Kobe

Poetry
03-15-2019, 07:01 AM
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Are we supposed to ignore all of the other shots taken in the final possession?

TheCorporation
03-15-2019, 10:02 AM
https://i.postimg.cc/Jnd16J6V/Bron-gw-post.jpg

👀👀

Bye

TheCorporation
03-15-2019, 10:04 AM
PS, nice try

https://i.postimg.cc/Jnd16J6V/Bron-gw-post.jpg

👀👀

LostCause
03-15-2019, 10:46 AM
Good thread OP, also good info provided by others

Mr Feeny
03-15-2019, 11:00 AM
Public Service Announcement.

The following image is not accurate. LeBron's percentage is incorrect.




Here is the correct percentage.

In all years, in the playoffs, in the 4th quarter or overtime, 0:24 or less left in quarter, shot to tie or take lead:

LeBron 10/27 (.370)
http://bkref.com/tiny/1zUMQ

In all years, in the playoffs, in the 4th quarter or overtime, 0:10 or less left in quarter, shot to tie or take lead:

LeBron 9/22 (.409)
http://bkref.com/tiny/tB6ff

I will periodically bump this thread to make sure the public stays informed.

30%FG is still higher than Kobes percentage but yeah, it isn't great.

superduper
03-15-2019, 11:18 AM
I've ****ing seen enough....this is my GOAT

TheCorporation
03-15-2019, 12:08 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/Bnj1SP2M/download-2.jpg

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We win again :cheers: