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superduper
02-06-2019, 02:24 PM
Explain this picture

https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2482/3954617440_a3e7dc95d8.jpg

red1
02-06-2019, 02:28 PM
I'll explain that picture if you can explain this picture:



https://pics.me.me/kobe-records-kobe-nba-record-most-missed-shots-in-a-regular-32437941.png

zeerghit
02-06-2019, 02:29 PM
Explain this picture

https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2482/3954617440_a3e7dc95d8.jpg
u better explain us how much dumber u getting every day?

andgar923
02-06-2019, 02:30 PM
Kobe was allowed to grow under Shaq.

Shaq covered up a ton of Kobe's bad decisions and constant forced shots. And YES Kobe did benefit tremendously from Shaq's defensive attention. It's an exaggeration and lie to claim Shaq always got doubled or Kobe only got single coverage, but Kobe never got the same attention that other wing stars received. As it was, Kobe's fg% and decision making was bad to horrible.

Sure, some Kobe fans will point out to a few games in which he played good without Shaq. But still fail to realize that 'overall' Kobe shot a bad percentage and made horrible decisions.

Kobe had it much much easier playing alongside Shaq than any other wing player since Shaq was the most dominant player since Wilt.

ArbitraryWater
02-06-2019, 02:31 PM
offensive player penetrates, help defense comes.


did i miss smthing? :lol

kennethgriffen
02-06-2019, 02:39 PM
I'll explain that picture if you can explain this picture:



https://pics.me.me/kobe-records-kobe-nba-record-most-missed-shots-in-a-regular-32437941.png


can't be the all time guard scoring champion and not have the most misses. the 2 guys ahead of him never shot 3's

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kobe also has the most made game winners. can't make the most without attempting/missing the most.

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kobe was the first player in history with 30k points and 6k assists, led 5 title teams in assists. only guys with more are cousy/pippen

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duncan in 05 and jordan in 96 were both more inefficient than kobe ever was in an nba finals series

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of the top 10 scorers all time kobe and mj are the only non big men and jordan never shot 3's either

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only 2 guys in history have anywhere near as many 50 point games as kobe. jordan and wilt ( 2 guys who rarely shot threes )


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the only guys ahead of kobe in playoff scoring are lebron/kareem/mj... 3 guys who for the most part of their career scored the ball inside

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out of the guys who have been to the finals 7 or more times kobe is the only big time scorer/big time 3 point shooter than isn't a layup spammer/rules bender/stiff arm abuser like lebron james


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superduper
02-06-2019, 02:45 PM
offensive player penetrates, help defense comes.


did i miss smthing? :lol

But why would the MDE's defender leave him for any reason to double someone no matter who it is?

Afterall, Shaq is the most dominant ever right? Why would any defender dare to leave him?

superduper
02-06-2019, 02:46 PM
Kobe was allowed to grow under Shaq.

Shaq covered up a ton of Kobe's bad decisions and constant forced shots. And YES Kobe did benefit tremendously from Shaq's defensive attention. It's an exaggeration and lie to claim Shaq always got doubled or Kobe only got single coverage, but Kobe never got the same attention that other wing stars received. As it was, Kobe's fg% and decision making was bad to horrible.

Sure, some Kobe fans will point out to a few games in which he played good without Shaq. But still fail to realize that 'overall' Kobe shot a bad percentage and made horrible decisions.

Kobe had it much much easier playing alongside Shaq than any other wing player since Shaq was the most dominant player since Wilt.

Shaq absolutely dominated losing his first 10 years in the league :eek:

SouBeachTalents
02-06-2019, 02:52 PM
Shaq absolutely dominated losing his first 10 years in the league :eek:
He had 3 titles by his 10th year ya doofus :oldlol:

superduper
02-06-2019, 02:56 PM
He had 3 titles by his 10th year ya doofus :oldlol:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BESnCrgCAAEHKku.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CKKOzVbWUAAh2fB.png
http://i.imgur.com/rtMHG2O.jpg

bigkingsfan
02-06-2019, 02:57 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BTgObyJCQAA_Cdz.jpg

kennethgriffen
02-06-2019, 02:58 PM
He had 3 titles by his 10th year ya doofus :oldlol:


shaq got swept or 4-1'd out of the playoffs every single year that he didn't have a legendary 2guard at an all nba level on both ends of the court with supreme clutch ability


kobe won back to back titles with barely a top 80 all time soft 18ppg 0-16 lead dog boarderline allstar for half his career and total nobody for the other half

kennethgriffen
02-06-2019, 03:00 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BTgObyJCQAA_Cdz.jpg


yeah but he was injured and the 2nd game where he came out with 2 points ruined his average


missing basically 2 whole games and playing hobbled in games 4,5,6 ( while basically saving the season after shaq fouled out )


a lot of context needs to go into that one


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34-24 Footwork
02-06-2019, 03:02 PM
Southbeachtalents is like the ringleader for this topic but always gets shat on by people who actually watch basketball :lol

This is his favorite subject but he knows NOTHING about it.

ArbitraryWater
02-06-2019, 03:03 PM
But why would the MDE's defender leave him for any reason to double someone no matter who it is?

Afterall, Shaq is the most dominant ever right? Why would any defender dare to leave him?

You're once again saying senseless shit with the end goal of saying "BUT DAZ WHAT YOU SAID!!"

Re-evaluate

ArbitraryWater
02-06-2019, 03:04 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BESnCrgCAAEHKku.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CKKOzVbWUAAh2fB.png
http://i.imgur.com/rtMHG2O.jpg

https://i.gyazo.com/19fda60b1dc0dfc4a9832cdb7baa64b2.png

superduper
02-06-2019, 03:05 PM
You're once again saying senseless shit with the end goal of saying "BUT DAZ WHAT YOU SAID!!"

Re-evaluate

What? LMAO.

Wtf are you saying. Why did Shaq's defender leave him when he is the MOST DOMINANT EVER? To add to that, why did the MDE's defender leave him for a trash 45% chucker who's nicknamed "Brick" by you guys?

Makes no sense.

Please stop deflecting and answer the topic.

Manny98
02-06-2019, 03:10 PM
Kobe literally missed the playoffs the season after Shaq left :roll: :roll: :roll:

SouBeachTalents
02-06-2019, 03:10 PM
Southbeachtalents is like the ringleader for this topic but always gets shat on by people who actually watch basketball :lol

This is his favorite subject but he knows NOTHING about it.
Lol, I've already dispelled this bullshit claim, legit have not posted once about Shaq being double teamed and/or any correlation of that to Kobe. Keep pushing the lies though :applause:

The Iron Fist
02-06-2019, 03:12 PM
I'll explain that picture if you can explain this picture:



https://pics.me.me/kobe-records-kobe-nba-record-most-missed-shots-in-a-regular-32437941.png


Thats easy to explain









https://s.yimg.com/lo/api/res/1.2/lTvJOIkR2YjWlBnbT9cVvw--~B/YXBwaWQ9eWlzZWFyY2g7Zmk9Zml0O2dlPTAwNjYwMDtncz0wME EzMDA7aD00MDA7dz01ODA-/https://www.nbascholar.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/kobe-bryant-5-rings.jpg.cf.jpg

bigkingsfan
02-06-2019, 03:13 PM
Kobe literally missed the playoffs the season after Shaq left :roll: :roll: :roll:
:biggums: :roll:

kennethgriffen
02-06-2019, 03:20 PM
Kobe literally missed the playoffs the season after Shaq left :roll: :roll: :roll:



and lebron literally is about to miss the playoffs the season after leaving the eastern conference


it happens in the west sometimes when you miss around 20 games like kobe did in 2005


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Doranku
02-06-2019, 03:24 PM
Jordan played with Pippen and Rodman
Wilt played with West and Baylor
Magic and Kareem played with each other + James Worthy
Russell and Bird played on Celtics teams loaded with HOFers

But let's crucify Kobe for having Shaq and a bunch of roleplayers. :lol

sdot_thadon
02-06-2019, 03:32 PM
guys like Op just make Kobe look worse than he really was. He penetrated in the pic and the defense collapsed as any decent defense should? Also he wasn't only good because Shaq was unstoppable and drew tons of attention, but you're an idiot if you don't feel like it made his life easier as a scorer.:coleman:

red1
02-06-2019, 03:33 PM
Jordan played with Pippen and Rodman
Wilt played with West and Baylor
Magic and Kareem played with each other + James Worthy
Russell and Bird played on Celtics teams loaded with HOFers

But let's crucify Kobe for having Shaq and a bunch of roleplayers. :lol
protect your eyes brother this trolling isn't for you


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BTgObyJCQAA_Cdz.jpg

facts


can't be the all time guard scoring champion and not have the most misses. the 2 guys ahead of him never shot 3's

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kobe also has the most made game winners. can't make the most without attempting/missing the most.

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kobe was the first player in history with 30k points and 6k assists, led 5 title teams in assists. only guys with more are cousy/pippen

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duncan in 05 and jordan in 96 were both more inefficient than kobe ever was in an nba finals series

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of the top 10 scorers all time kobe and mj are the only non big men and jordan never shot 3's either

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only 2 guys in history have anywhere near as many 50 point games as kobe. jordan and wilt ( 2 guys who rarely shot threes )


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the only guys ahead of kobe in playoff scoring are lebron/kareem/mj... 3 guys who for the most part of their career scored the ball inside

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out of the guys who have been to the finals 7 or more times kobe is the only big time scorer/big time 3 point shooter than isn't a layup spammer/rules bender/stiff arm abuser like lebron james


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kobe is a snitch

CONFIRMED

kobe is a chucker

CONFIRMED

most bricks all-time

CONFIRMED

https://pics.me.me/kobe-records-kobe-nba-record-most-missed-shots-in-a-regular-32437941.png

OUCH

The Iron Fist
02-06-2019, 03:33 PM
guys like Op just make Kobe look worse than he really was. He penetrated in the pic and the defense collapsed as any decent defense should? Also he wasn't only good because Shaq was unstoppable and drew tons of attention, but you're an idiot if you don't feel like it made his life easier as a scorer.:coleman:
So why did he score more without Shaq?

kennethgriffen
02-06-2019, 03:43 PM
protect your eyes brother this trolling isn't for you



facts


kobe is a snitch

CONFIRMED

kobe is a chucker

CONFIRMED

most bricks all-time

CONFIRMED

https://pics.me.me/kobe-records-kobe-nba-record-most-missed-shots-in-a-regular-32437941.png

OUCH


worst comeback




EVER


:lol

red1
02-06-2019, 03:49 PM
worst comeback




EVER


:lol
I disagree.


https://static1.fjcdn.com/comments/No+that+is+a+monocle+top+hat+cane+and+brandy+_408d c9c9503e2cd150673c5a5fd80d06.jpg

Hey Yo
02-06-2019, 04:11 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BESnCrgCAAEHKku.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CKKOzVbWUAAh2fB.png
http://i.imgur.com/rtMHG2O.jpg
Those images were from halfway through the 2nd round.

LOL @ trying to pass those off as for the entire postseason.

Hey Yo
02-06-2019, 04:16 PM
and lebron literally is about to miss the playoffs the season after leaving the eastern conference


it happens in the west sometimes when you miss around 20 games like kobe did in 2005
Kobe missed exactly 16gms which is less than what LeBron has missed this season. Plus only won 34gms and was an 11 seed in 2005

kennethgriffen
02-06-2019, 04:19 PM
Kobe missed exactly 16gms which is less than what LeBron has missed this season. Plus only won 34gms and was an 11 seed in 2005


so injuries are an excuse if you miss 17 games with your 2nd leading scorer missing 4 games

but they're not an excuse if you miss 16 games with your 2nd leading scorer missing 18 games and your coach missing 39 games

:lol








































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Hey Yo
02-06-2019, 04:29 PM
so injuries are an excuse if you miss 17 games with your 2nd leading scorer missing 4 games

but they're not an excuse if you miss 16 games with your 2nd leading scorer missing 18 games and your coach missing 39 games

:lol
Funny how you never brought up 2nd leading scorers and coaches missing games until I handed your ass to you like you were Frankie Williams.

kennethgriffen
02-06-2019, 04:45 PM
Funny how you never brought up 2nd leading scorers and coaches missing games until I handed your ass to you like you were Frankie Williams.


you act like i didn't know the amount of games both guys missed. we have this convo every day

:lol


and again. are you saying 17 games = an excuse but 16 doesn't... regardless of the 2nd scorer/coach being added on

sdot_thadon
02-06-2019, 09:26 PM
So why did he score more without Shaq?
umm fga? He was the clear cut number 1 option with Shaq out of the way, what kinda question is that?:oldlol: You won't ever hear me say Kobe was anything less than great, one of the greatest scorers to ever do it. But let's be real for a second PRIME SHAQ was PRIME SHAQ.

Mr Feeny
02-07-2019, 03:18 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BTgObyJCQAA_Cdz.jpg

That's beyond embarassing:applause:

SpaceJam
02-07-2019, 03:37 AM
https://swishnba.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/photo.jpg

Celtics 1825
02-07-2019, 03:44 AM
One picture of Kobe getting doubled vs how many of Shaq?

Rico2016
02-07-2019, 03:59 AM
I'll explain that picture if you can explain this picture:



https://pics.me.me/kobe-records-kobe-nba-record-most-missed-shots-in-a-regular-32437941.png

Ouch lock it up