The Cavs had three perennial allstars in 2016 in their prime...

[superduper]

...vs. the Warriors three perennial allstars in 2016 in their prime.

So it was a tied and even matchup. Fair situation in which both teams had a 50/50 chance of winning.

Compare that to 2011 where the Mavs only had one perennial allstar in his prime vs. the Heat's THREE. Dirk's 2011 ring is perhaps the greatest underdog ring in history vs. LeGOAT's absolutely STACKED superteam.

Dirk's 1 >>> Bran's 3 combined.

[Manny98]

The Atlanta Hawks had 4 all stars in their prime to Cavs having only 1 star in LeBron 2015

So LeBron sweeping a team with 4 all stars as the only prime all star is the GOAT achievement pretty much :lebronamazed:

[SouBeachTalents]

Nope, they had 10x All-Star Kidd & 4x All-Star Marion

[FKAri]

Thunder had three perennial MVPs in 2012 and LeDong thrusted himself right through them! :bowdown:

[G0ATbe]

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[Gus Hemmingway]

The Atlanta Hawks had 4 all stars in their prime to Cavs having only 1 star in LeBron 2015

So LeBron sweeping a team with 4 all stars as the only prime all star is the GOAT achievement pretty much :lebronamazed:
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Nope, they had 10x All-Star Kidd & 4x All-Star Marion
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Thunder had three perennial MVPs in 2012 and LeDong thrusted himself right through them! :bowdown:


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[Hey Yo]

LOL @ OP for still using that alt account....

[LAmbruh]

2004 Pistons with only a 10ppg All-Star defeated a team with 3 perennial MVP's :bowdown:

[superduper]

Nope, they had 10x All-Star Kidd & 4x All-Star Marion

I know reading is hard but I said in their prime.

[bullettooth]

LOL @ OP for still using that alt account....

Hi Wheels!

[superduper]

Thunder had three perennial MVPs in 2012 and LeDong thrusted himself right through them! :bowdown:

-Harden wasn't allstar back then.
-Westbrook and Durant were nowhere close to the players they are now.

[superduper]

The Atlanta Hawks had 4 all stars in their prime to Cavs having only 1 star in LeBron 2015

So LeBron sweeping a team with 4 all stars as the only prime all star is the GOAT achievement pretty much :lebronamazed:

Those were the most sham allstars in history and everybody knows it.

[Hey Yo]

-Harden wasn't allstar back then.
-Westbrook and Durant were nowhere close to the players they are now.
Harden 6MOY

Westbrook and KD were both named All-NBA that same year.

[SouBeachTalents]

-Harden wasn't allstar back then.
-Westbrook and Durant were nowhere close to the players they are now.
Oh, but Wade & Bosh were close to where they were in their prime in '13 & '14 though right :oldlol:

[Lakessss]

No '' Could, should, would '' This isn't fantasy basketball, remember?

Based off of facts. Lebron was the only all star on the team in 2016 and he beat the 73 win Golden State Warriors. GOAT things. :cheers:

[Hey Yo]

Those were the most sham allstars in history and everybody knows it.
You don't get to decide who's a legit all-star and who isn't, dipshit.

[LAmbruh]

-Harden wasn't allstar back then.
-Westbrook and Durant were nowhere close to the players they are now.
And yet they long dicked 12be with EASE in the semi's


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[bullettooth]

No '' Could, should, would '' This isn't fantasy basketball, remember?

Based off of facts. Lebron was the only all star on the team in 2016 and he beat the 73 win Golden State Warriors. GOAT things. :cheers:

Only all star to beat an apparently stacked and healthy without suspensions team like GSW but when he's on a stacked team himself he loses; 2011.

:biggums:

[AlternativeAcc.]

Only all star to beat an apparently stacked and healthy without suspensions team like GSW but when he's on a stacked team himself he loses; 2011.

:biggums:
Mavs were more stacked, deeper, better coached, more experienced and didn't have extreme chemistry issues due to Wade's immature, egotistical mindset (laughing at Dirk being sick was his idea)

That loss is chalked up to Wade's own arrogance. Nothing more, nothing less.


And we don't judge men off of one series.. or one failure. That's not how it works. But how did one respond to adversity? that is weighted much more heavily... and we already know the answer... LeBron has since carried 3 teams to championships and been the best post-season performer in EVERY single season since 2011. (also including 2011)

The way LeBron responded to adversity in his career and life at the time is what defines him. And makes him the GOAT. :bowdown:

[Manny98]

2004 Pistons with only a 10ppg All-Star defeated a team with 3 perennial MVP's :bowdown:
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[Manny98]

You don't get to decide who's a legit all-star and who isn't, dipshit.

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[AlternativeAcc.]

Mavs were more stacked, deeper, better coached, more experienced and didn't have extreme chemistry issues due to Wade's immature, egotistical mindset (laughing at Dirk being sick was his idea)

That loss is chalked up to Wade's own arrogance. Nothing more, nothing less.


And we don't judge men off of one series.. or one failure. That's not how it works. But how did one respond to adversity? that is weighted much more heavily... and we already know the answer... LeBron has since carried 3 teams to championships and been the best post-season performer in EVERY single season since 2011. (also including 2011)

The way LeBron responded to adversity in his career and life at the time is what defines him. And makes him the GOAT. :bowdown:
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[Gus Hemmingway]

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[3ball]

The Atlanta Hawks had 4 all stars in their prime to Cavs having only 1 star in LeBron 2015

So LeBron sweeping a team with 4 all stars as the only prime all star is the GOAT achievement pretty much :lebronamazed:
Not perennial all-stars, let alone HOF's

(Love HOF probability 67.6% (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/l/loveke01.html), Teague 0.2% (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/t/teaguje01.html)



the Cavs and Warriors were the only super-teams with 3 HOF's in recent years, while the Heat were the only super-team from 11-14'.. And lebron's teams always had record payroll.. so lebron should be knocked for not having dominant favorites or flirting with 70 wins like curry/kawhi did, and instead losing more with consistent underdog status.. but Lebron fans have simply weaponized his losing by seeking sympathy for his underdog status, instead of knocking him for not winning and achieving favorites like his peers
.

[Nash]

How many perennial all stars did Jordan face?

[Hey Yo]

Not perennial all-stars, let alone HOF's

(Love HOF probability 67.6% (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/l/loveke01.html), Teague 0.2% (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/t/teaguje01.html)



the Cavs and Warriors were the only super-teams with 3 HOF's in recent years, while the Heat were the only super-team from 11-14'.. And lebron's teams always had record payroll.. so lebron should be knocked for not having dominant favorites or flirting with 70 wins like curry/kawhi did, and instead losing more with consistent underdog status.. but Lebron fans have simply weaponized his losing by seeking sympathy for his underdog status, instead of knocking him for not winning and achieving favorites like his peers
.
In the 2015 series, Teague put up 21-3-4.... Love = DNP, shoulder ripped out of it's socket.

2011, Heat won 58gms. Does that mean every NBA team that's ever won 58+ games are considered superteams?

[3ball]

In the 2015 series, Teague put up 21-3-4.... Love = DNP, shoulder ripped out of it's socket.

2011, Heat won 58gms. Does that mean every NBA team that's ever won 58+ games are considered superteams?
if they have 3 HOF's, then yes, they're a super-team, regardless of whether they underachieve with 58 wins or not.

And again, only the Cavs and Warriors had 3 HOF's in recent years (super-teams), while the Heat were the only super-team from 11-14'.. And lebron's teams always had record payroll..

so lebron should be knocked for not having dominant favorites or flirting with 70 wins like curry/kawhi did, and instead losing more with consistent underdog status.. but Lebron fans have simply weaponized his losing by seeking sympathy for his underdog status, instead of knocking him for not winning and achieving favorites like his peers

[Dray n Klay]

Which of them made the all star team that year

[Manny98]

And again, only the Cavs and Warriors had 3 HOF's in recent years (super-teams), while the Heat were the only super-team from 11-14'.. And lebron's teams always had record payroll..


You sure about that...

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LeBron has beaten 4 superteams in his career whilst MJ has beaten 0 :oldlol:

[bigkingsfan]

[I]He was angry over the Bulls

[Hey Yo]

if they have 3 HOF's, then yes, they're a super-team, regardless of whether they underachieve with 58 wins or not.

And again, only the Cavs and Warriors had 3 HOF's in recent years (super-teams), while the Heat were the only super-team from 11-14'.. And lebron's teams always had record payroll..

so lebron should be knocked for not having dominant favorites or flirting with 70 wins like curry/kawhi did, and instead losing more with consistent underdog status.. but Lebron fans have simply weaponized his losing by seeking sympathy for his underdog status, instead of knocking him for not winning and achieving favorites like his peers
Ok, it's my turn to try that.

If a team has 4 All-stars, then they are a superteam.

LeBron w/o Love and only Kyrie for 2gms swept the 2015 Hawks superteam.

[Hey Yo]

You sure about that...

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LeBron has beaten 4 superteams in his career whilst MJ has beaten 0 :oldlol:
You forgot the 60 win 4 All-Star Hawks team. I made the rule that, if they have 4 All-stars, then they're a superteam.

[Manny98]

You forgot the 60 win 4 All-Star Hawks team. I made the rule that, if they have 4 All-stars, then they're a superteam.
So LeBron has beaten 5 superteams to MJs 0 :roll: :roll: :roll:

[3ball]

.
2012 Celtics

Garnett 35, Pierce 34, Allen 36


2013 Spurs

Duncan 36, Ginobili 35, Parker 30


1991 Pistons

Isiah 29, Dumars 27, Rodman 27



And lebron had his own 3-4 HOF teams from 2011-2017, so it's normal competition for him to face similar teams (super-team era), whereas MJ won his first 3 rings with less help (2 HOF team) and his era had superior parity/competitive balance/real, natural competitive environment

[jbryan1984]

How about those 2014 Spurs with 1 AS in Tony Parker beating Miami's 3 AS's in their prime.... in 5 games no less.

[superduper]

Those mentioning the Hawks need to take ESL before even dreaming of knowing what perennial means.