Bill Laimbeer Famous Phantom Foul

[Nilocon165]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4&v=SSHGG0sGUOc

Reminder that Magic and Kareem should have one less ring.

How much better would Isiah Thomas be ranked all time if he finished with 3 rings including this masterpiece game of his.

Bullshit call.

[Nilocon165]

4 of the GOAT lakers had a ring given to them.

Magic
Kareem
Shaq
Kobe

[Mr Feeny]

That call was pathetic. My father was a hardcore Lakers fan during the early 80's and he still insists it's the right call.
Lakers fans of all ages are delusional. All throughout history. That was hogwash.

Rasheed Wallace getting thrown out in 2000 for no reason whatsoever was laughable and game 6 of the 2002 wcf was the ultimate cake.
The biggest disgrace in the history of basketball. A black mark on the league and just blatant cheating.

[ClipperRevival]

Overrated call. It wasn't a clear cut BS call. He did sort of bump him with his body as KAJ was in the motion of shooting the shot. People only make a big deal out of it because KAJ made 2 of more clutch FTs ever. If he missed just one, this call is a non issue. Besides, Pistons had 14 seconds to win it. Not like this foul was called with only a few seconds left.

[Nilocon165]

Overrated call. It wasn't a clear cut BS call. He did sort of bump him with his body as KAJ was in the motion of shooting the shot. People only make a big deal out of it because KAJ made 2 of more clutch FTs ever. If he missed just one, this call is a non issue. Besides, Pistons had 14 seconds to win it. Not like this foul was called with only a few seconds left.
This argument always annoys me.

They wouldn't HAVE to score in 14 seconds if it was just a correct no call.

[ClipperRevival]

This argument always annoys me.

They wouldn't HAVE to score in 14 seconds if it was just a correct no call.

With that logic, you can make excuses and whine about almost any close game in history.

[Mr Feeny]

With that logic, you can make excuses and whine about almost any close game in history.

If it's a huge call and a ridiculous one in a tight game 7, why would you?

[ClipperRevival]

If it's a huge call and a ridiculous one in a tight game 7, why would you?

It was a big call but the way people talk about it, they talk like that call determined the series. That was also in game 6. Pistons still had a chance to win game 7 but with a hobbled Isiah, they were undermanned.

[egokiller]

If it's a huge call and a ridiculous one in a tight game 7, why would you?

If you were a real leader on your team why would you even allow there to be a game 7 in the first place? Just end the series in 6 games. That's what a GOAT would have done. Why even allow the possibility for a game 7 critical call?

[dunksby]

Let's look at this way, this would not have mattered if this was Wilt who got fouled.

[Rake2204]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4&v=SSHGG0sGUOc

Reminder that Magic and Kareem should have one less ring.

How much better would Isiah Thomas be ranked all time if he finished with 3 rings including this masterpiece game of his.

Bullshit call.Not to get too deep, but I kind of always thought that losing in the manner they did in 1988 is what propelled the Pistons to come back and beast through the '89 campaign. Perhaps if they won in '88, the two subsequent years could have shaken out differently (say, Adrian Dantley sticking around through his descent).

Then again, maybe they really would have gone three straight.

[Helix]

Let's look at this way, this would not have mattered if this was Wilt who got fouled.


You're right.....a foul would have made no difference with Wilt. He would have just taken the ball to the basket and dunked over Laimbeer and anyone else the Pistons could have thrown at him.

[Psileas]

You're right.....a foul would have made no difference with Wilt. He would have just taken the ball to the basket and dunked over Laimbeer and anyone else the Pistons could have thrown at him.

This.
Not to mention Wilt has actually made game winning FT's, even in playoff games. :eek:
On the other hand, trolls desperately try to build up a "choker" profile by pointing out games when Wilt missed X FT's while his team lost by X-1 points, even if many/most of these missed FT's came as early as in the first half and even in games they don't have the slightest clue how the final margin was built. :facepalm

[egokiller]

This.
Not to mention Wilt has actually made game winning FT's, even in playoff games. :eek:
On the other hand, trolls desperately try to build up a "choker" profile by pointing out games when Wilt missed X FT's while his team lost by X-1 points, even if many/most of these missed FT's came as early as in the first half and even in games they don't have the slightest clue how the final margin was built. :facepalm

It is very entertaining reading lebrontards post that try to diminish Wilt because they think it will put less distance between lebron and MJ on the all time list. Does anyone really think that lebron is more alpha than wilt?

[LAZERUSS]

Let's look at this way, this would not have mattered if this was Wilt who got fouled.

Completely agree.

You would NEVER find a "must win" game by Chamberlain in which he only scored 14 pts and on 3-14 shooting from the field, and with a meager 6 rebounds.

Nor would have Chamberlain followed up that game six with another "must win" game seven of... 29 minutes, 4 pts, on 2-7 shooting from the field (and didn't even get to the line), with 3 TOs and 5 PFs, while the Piston centers combined for 28 pts, on 11-20 shooting, and 19 rebounds.

Yet Kareem gets credit for a ring. In a series in which the Lakers could have replaced him with Betty White, and done no worse. For those that claim that Magic never won a ring without KAJ...I give you the '88 Finals. 13 ppg, 4 rpg, and on a .414 FG%. BTW, Magic destroyed the same Piston team that reduced Bird to a shot-jacking .351 FG% in the EDF's. All Magic did was put up a 22-6-13 series (against Rodman and Co.) and on a .676 TS%.

And, Magic should have won the FMVP. His 4th. And before some idiot claims that Kareem was robbed in '80...give me KAJ's and then Magic's stat-lines in the clinching win.

[LAZERUSS]

4 of the GOAT lakers had a ring given to them.

Magic
Kareem
Shaq
Kobe

As was Lebron's '13 and '16 rings. He couldn't hit anything in the most critical moments and needed Ray Allen and Kryie Irving to hit the most important shots in the series.

Not to mention that Lebron's '07 and '11 Finals were EASILY the TWO WORST EVER by a Top-10 player in his prime.

Not to mention Lebron QUITTING on his team in 2010, and then even his owner conceded that Lebron QUIT on his team in 2009, as well.

Not to mention Lebron...this fabulous physical specimen, being carried off the court in a game one white-flag waving effort with.... menstrual CRAMPS.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

LeChoke.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

[Nilocon165]

As was Lebron's '13 and '16 rings. He couldn't hit anything in the most critical moments and needed Ray Allen and Kryie Irving to hit the most important shots in the series.

Not to mention that Lebron's '07 and '11 Finals were EASILY the TWO WORST EVER by a Top-10 player in his prime.

Not to mention Lebron QUITTING on his team in 2010, and then even his owner conceded that Lebron QUIT on his team in 2009, as well.

Not to mention Lebron...this fabulous physical specimen, being carried off the court in a game one white-flag waving effort with.... menstrual CRAMPS.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

LeChoke.

:roll: :roll: :roll:
This was about ref help you ****ing mentally disabled piece of shit.

Lebron won his rings fair and sqaure.

If you wanna take about a real choker, then have at it you fcking moron.

1973 NBA Finals
Lakers had HCA but lost the series in 5 games. Lakers lost by 4 points in Game 2 in which Wilt shot 1-9 from the freethrow line. Wilt put up 5 points in Game 3 which the Lakers lost by 4 points again. In Game 5 Wilt shot 5-14 from the freethrow line. This capped off Wilt's 5th series loss with HCA to end his career.

Wilt's FT shooting for the series: 14-38 (36.8%)

1970 NBA Finals
Another Game 7 loss for the Lakers. Wilt shot 1-10 from the freethrow in a Game 1 loss. In Game 7 Wilt shot 11 freethrow attempts, only making 1.

Wilt's FT shooting for the series: 23-67 (34.3%)
Wilt's FT shooting in Game 7: 1-11 (9.1%)

1969 NBA Finals
Lakers had HCA and were up 2-0 in the series and also 3-2 after Game 5. Lakers managed to lose the next 2 games including a 2 point loss in Game 7 in which Wilt missed 9 freethrows (4-13) while Jerry West put up 42-13-12 and won Finals MVP. Wilt shot 1-5 from the filed and missed 8 freethrows in a Game 6 loss and 1-5 from the field in Game 2. In a pivotal Game 4 Wilt shot 2-11 from the line in a 1-point loss, a win would have gave the Lakers a 3-1 series lead. Boston Celtic Sam Jones outscored Wilt Chamberlain again in Game 7, doing so in all 4 Game 7s.

Wilt's FT shooting for the series: 24-66 (36.4%)
Wilt's FT shooting in Game 7: 4-13 (30.8%)

1968 Division Finals
Another HCA series loss for Wilt. Wilt shot 6-21 from the field and missed 15 freethrows in a Game 6 loss. In Game 7, Wilt made 4 field goals and missed 9 freethrows in a 4 point loss. Wilt was the 9th leading scorer and the 5th leading scorer on his own team in that game 7 with 14 points

Wilt's FT shooting for the series: 39-91 (42.9%)
Wilt FT shooting in Game 7: 6-15 (40.0%)

1966 Division Finals
His Sixers lost to Boston in 5 games. In the elimination Game 5, Wilt missed 17 freethrows (8-25) in a 8 point loss.

Wilt's FT shooting for the series: 28-68 (41.2%)

1965 Division Finals
Wilt shot 7-21 from the field in a Game 3 loss. The Sixers lost by 1 point in Game 7, Wilt missed 7 freethrows (6-13) in that game. Wilt was once again outscored by Sam Jones in a Game 7.

1964 NBA Finals
His team lost the series in 5 games. Wilt shot 4-12 from the freethrow line in a Game 1 loss.

Wilt's FT shooting for the series: 22-48 (45.8%)

1963 Regular season
Wilt led his team to a 31-49 record, a record too poor to make the playoffs.

1962 Division Finals
Coming off his 50.4 ppg season, his PPG in the Playoffs dropped down by 15 points. In Game 7, Wilt was the 4th leading scorer with 22 points in a loss.

Wilt's FT shooting for the series: 22-48 (45.8%)

1961 Division Semifinals
Wilt's Warriors had HCA and were facing the 38-41 Nationals. The result? The sub .500 Nationals swept Wilt's team 3-0. In an elimination Game 3 Wilt shot 7-14 from the freethrow line in a 3-point loss.

Wilt FT shooting for the series: 21-38 (55.3%)

1960 Division Finals
After a regular season of 38.4 ppg, Wilt followed that up with a 30.5 ppg series in the Division Finals vs. Boston.

Wilt FT shooting for the series: 35-65 (53.8%)

[LAZERUSS]

This was about ref help you ****ing mentally disabled piece of shit.

Lebron won his rings fair and sqaure.

If you wanna take about a real choker, then have at it you fcking moron.

1973 NBA Finals
Lakers had HCA but lost the series in 5 games. Lakers lost by 4 points in Game 2 in which Wilt shot 1-9 from the freethrow line. Wilt put up 5 points in Game 3 which the Lakers lost by 4 points again. In Game 5 Wilt shot 5-14 from the freethrow line. This capped off Wilt's 5th series loss with HCA to end his career.

Wilt's FT shooting for the series: 14-38 (36.8%)

1970 NBA Finals
Another Game 7 loss for the Lakers. Wilt shot 1-10 from the freethrow in a Game 1 loss. In Game 7 Wilt shot 11 freethrow attempts, only making 1.

Wilt's FT shooting for the series: 23-67 (34.3%)
Wilt's FT shooting in Game 7: 1-11 (9.1%)

1969 NBA Finals
Lakers had HCA and were up 2-0 in the series and also 3-2 after Game 5. Lakers managed to lose the next 2 games including a 2 point loss in Game 7 in which Wilt missed 9 freethrows (4-13) while Jerry West put up 42-13-12 and won Finals MVP. Wilt shot 1-5 from the filed and missed 8 freethrows in a Game 6 loss and 1-5 from the field in Game 2. In a pivotal Game 4 Wilt shot 2-11 from the line in a 1-point loss, a win would have gave the Lakers a 3-1 series lead. Boston Celtic Sam Jones outscored Wilt Chamberlain again in Game 7, doing so in all 4 Game 7s.

Wilt's FT shooting for the series: 24-66 (36.4%)
Wilt's FT shooting in Game 7: 4-13 (30.8%)

1968 Division Finals
Another HCA series loss for Wilt. Wilt shot 6-21 from the field and missed 15 freethrows in a Game 6 loss. In Game 7, Wilt made 4 field goals and missed 9 freethrows in a 4 point loss. Wilt was the 9th leading scorer and the 5th leading scorer on his own team in that game 7 with 14 points

Wilt's FT shooting for the series: 39-91 (42.9%)
Wilt FT shooting in Game 7: 6-15 (40.0%)

1966 Division Finals
His Sixers lost to Boston in 5 games. In the elimination Game 5, Wilt missed 17 freethrows (8-25) in a 8 point loss.

Wilt's FT shooting for the series: 28-68 (41.2%)

1965 Division Finals
Wilt shot 7-21 from the field in a Game 3 loss. The Sixers lost by 1 point in Game 7, Wilt missed 7 freethrows (6-13) in that game. Wilt was once again outscored by Sam Jones in a Game 7.

1964 NBA Finals
His team lost the series in 5 games. Wilt shot 4-12 from the freethrow line in a Game 1 loss.

Wilt's FT shooting for the series: 22-48 (45.8%)

1963 Regular season
Wilt led his team to a 31-49 record, a record too poor to make the playoffs.

1962 Division Finals
Coming off his 50.4 ppg season, his PPG in the Playoffs dropped down by 15 points. In Game 7, Wilt was the 4th leading scorer with 22 points in a loss.

Wilt's FT shooting for the series: 22-48 (45.8%)

1961 Division Semifinals
Wilt's Warriors had HCA and were facing the 38-41 Nationals. The result? The sub .500 Nationals swept Wilt's team 3-0. In an elimination Game 3 Wilt shot 7-14 from the freethrow line in a 3-point loss.

Wilt FT shooting for the series: 21-38 (55.3%)

1960 Division Finals
After a regular season of 38.4 ppg, Wilt followed that up with a 30.5 ppg series in the Division Finals vs. Boston.

Wilt FT shooting for the series: 35-65 (53.8%)

'60: Carried a last place roster to a 49-26 record. Then put up a 39-23 series in the first round, which included a series clinching 50-22 game. Then against a HOF-stacked roster, Chamberlain hung a 31-27 series which included a must win game of 56-35. Lost a game six to a much better team by two points. Went 4-1-1 in his 6 H2Hs with Russell.

'61: Averaged 37-23 in the first round. His teammates collectively shot .332 in that series loss. Of course, they were still last place teammates. In the clincher Wilt hung a 33-23 game in the clinching loss.

'62. Took the same last place roster he inherited two years earlier to a 49-31 record. Then put up a 37-23 first round series, which included a staggering triple double clinching game of 56-35-12. Then he hung a 34-27 seven game series on Russell, in a series in which Boston was favored in EVERY game. lost game seven by two points, but scored Phillys last five points to pull them into a tie, before Sam Jones hit the game winner. Wilt wins his H2H's with Russell, 4-2-1.

'64. Took a roster that had gone 31-49 the year before, to a 48-32 record, and then single-handedly wiped the floor against a Hawks team that was better 2-6, with a 39-23 .560 series, which included a game seven of 39-26-11. Then badly outplayed Russell in the Finals. Alas, was outgunned 9-3 in HOFers (and his HOFer were the worst shooter of his era, and a rookie who played part-time and out of position.) Outplayed Russell in EVERY game of that series (5-0.)

'65. Was traded at mid-season for three players to a team that had gone 34-46 the year before. He then single-handedly destroyed Oscar's stacked 48-32 Royals in the first round which included a clinching game of 38-26-10. Then he took that vastly overmatched 40-40 team to a game seven, one point loss against a 62-18 Celtic team. In that last game, he scored Philly's last 8 points, en route to a 30-32 game on .800 FG%. For the series he averaged an unfathomable 30 ppg, 31 rpg, and shot .555 from the field. Oh, and went 6-1 against Russell in those seven H2H's.

'66. Put up a 28-30 .509 series in the WCFs, all while his teammates collective shot .352 from the field. Outplayed Russell, 4-0-1.

'67. Led the Sixers to a 68-13 record. Put up a 28-27-11 .617 first round. Then in the EDF's, and against the 60-21 Celtics, he massacred Russell with a 22-32-10 .556 series. In the clinching game five win, he outscored Russell, 29-4; outrebounded Russell, 36-21; outassisted Russell, 13-7; and outshot him, 10-16 to 2-5. Went 4-1 in his H2H's with Russell. In the Finals he brutalized Thurmond in a 4-2 series romp. Outscored him in five of the six games; outrebounded him him in five of the six games; outassisted him in five of the six games; and outshot him from the field in EVERY one of the six games (and by a .560 to .343 margin.) the same Thurmond who would hold a peak KAJ to three straight series of .486, .428, and even .405 shooting.

Continued...

[LAZERUSS]

Continued...

'68. In the first round he led both teams in ppg, rpg, apg, and FG%..en route to a 4-2 series win. Then, with a muscle tear in his thigh, he put up a 22-25-7 seven game series...all while noticeably limping. In what should have been a clinching game five win, he oustcored Russell, 28-8 and outrebounded him, 30-24. For the series, a one-legged Wilt went 4-2-1 against Russell.

'69. Brought his Lakers back from a 2-0 series and now without HCA, to a 4-2 series win over Thurmond's Warriors. Then a 4-1 wipeout of the Hawks with a 19-26 .638 series. BTW, in the clincher...a 16-29 game with 16 blocks. Was benched in the last five minutes of a game seven, two point loss...in a game in which he hung an 18-27-10 triple double on a game-leading .621 TS%. BTW, Russell put up a 6-21 .333 TS% in that same game. BTW, went 34-10-5 in his 49 career H2H playoff games against Russell.

'70. Came back way ahead of schedule from major knee surgery, and then brought his team back from a 3-1 first round series deficit, which included a game seven of 30-27-11. Then led his team to a sweep of the HCA advantaged Hawks. Then, on basically one-leg, hung a seven game series of 23-24 .625. In the last three games of the Finals, he outscored FMVP Reed by an 88-11 margin; outrebounded him by a 71-3 margin; and outshot him from the field by a 39-55 to 4-10 margin.

'71. Without BOTH West and Baylor, he outplayed a peak Kareem in the '71 WCF's by a 3-1-1 margin. KAJ's vastly superior teammates crushed his though.

'72. By ALL accounts, a 35 year old Wilt outplayed a PEAK Kareem in the WCF's, which included a 4th quarter barrage in the clinching game in which he outscored Kareem, 9-4, and held him to 2-8 from the field. Time Magazine claimed that Wilt DECISIVELY outplayed Kareem. Then, in the Finals, he led his team to their first ever title in LA (all while Jerry West shot .325 from the field BTW) with a 19-23 .600 series. In the clinching game five win... 24-29-8 on 10-14 shooting. En route to the FMVP.

'73. Destroyed Thurmond and his Warriors in the WCF's. The same Thurmond and Warrior team that upset Kareem's heavily-favored Bucks in the first round, in a series in which KAJ shot .428. Then, Wilt, with again, ZERO help from West, put up a 12-19 .525 Finals, but with no help, his team was wiped out by a NY team that had SIX HOFers. Oh, and in the very last game of his career... 23 points and 21 rebounds.

In his 23 must win games:

31.1 ppg, 26.4 rpg, 4.2 apg, and on a .540 FG% (in post-seasons that shot an eFG% average of .435.) And all while badly outplaying his HOF counterparts.



There you go...and thanks for playing.

[SouBeachTalents]

As was Lebron's '13 and '16 rings. He couldn't hit anything in the most critical moments and needed Ray Allen and Kryie Irving to hit the most important shots in the series.

Not to mention that Lebron's '07 and '11 Finals were EASILY the TWO WORST EVER by a Top-10 player in his prime.

Not to mention Lebron QUITTING on his team in 2010, and then even his owner conceded that Lebron QUIT on his team in 2009, as well.

Not to mention Lebron...this fabulous physical specimen, being carried off the court in a game one white-flag waving effort with.... menstrual CRAMPS.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

LeChoke.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Disagree with the bolded

1. LeBron was the leading scorer in the 4th quarter in Games 6 & 7 of the 2013 Finals & Game 7 of the 2016 Finals. He scored 6 crucial points in the 4th in Game 7 this year, when the Warriors were up 4 and on the verge of potentially putting the game out of reach. He also hit the dagger jumper in Game 7 in 2013. Don't disagree Allen & Kyrie hit the biggest shots of the series though, no different than Paxson/Kerr/Horry/Artest hitting the biggest shot of previous Finals

2. Kobe's '00 & '04 Finals were just as bad as LeBron's '07 Finals, I still do consider his 2011 Finals the WOAT performance for a player of his caliber, even if technically statistically there were worse ones out there

3. Anyone who claims a dude dropping 39/8/8 in a series while hitting a game winning buzzer beater is "quitting" isn't worthy of being taken seriously

[LAZERUSS]

Disagree with the bolded

1. LeBron was the leading scorer in the 4th quarter in Games 6 & 7 of the 2013 Finals & Game 7 of the 2016 Finals. He scored 6 crucial points in the 4th in Game 7 this year, when the Warriors were up 4 and on the verge of potentially putting the game out of reach. He also hit the dagger jumper in Game 7 in 2013. Don't disagree Allen & Kyrie hit the biggest shots of the series though, no different than Paxson/Kerr/Horry/Artest hitting the biggest shot of previous Finals

2. Kobe's '00 & '04 Finals were just as bad as LeBron's '07 Finals, I still do consider his 2011 Finals the WOAT performance for a player of his caliber, even if technically statistically there were worse ones out there

3. Anyone who claims a dude dropping 39/8/8 in a series while hitting a game winning buzzer beater is "quitting" isn't worthy of being taken seriously

Hmmm...

let's ask Lebron's OWNER...

http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2010/07/dan_gilbert_says_lebron_james.html


Gilbert feels James quit on the Cavs during their second-round series against the Boston Celtics, who rallied from a 2-1 deficit to eliminate Cleveland.

"He quit," Gilbert said. "Not just in Game 5, but in Games 2, 4 and 6. Watch the tape. The Boston series was unlike anything in the history of sports for a superstar."

The Cavaliers were beaten by 32 points in Game 5. During the game, James appeared distracted and uninterested, often glaring at Cleveland's coaches as the Cavs tried to foul to get back into the game in the second half. James also made some puzzling postgame comments, saying he had "spoiled" people with his play over seven seasons.

Gilbert also said he believes James quit on the Cavs in Game 6 of their series in 2009 against Orlando.

"Go back and look at the tape," he said. "How many shots did he take?"




In any case, his '07 and '11 Finals, in his PRIME, and the team scoring leader...were just HORRIFIC.

His '15 Finals were just awful, as well. Sure he scored 36 ppg...but on 32 FGAs per game, and was completely shutdown by a bench player one-on-one.

I will give him credit in 2012. His best Finals.

'13? Was one wild shot away from "1-4."

'14? His stats show that he played well. The video tape suggests the truth, however. Didn't contribute at all until the contests were blow-outs. "Led" his team to the worst beating in NBA Finals history.

'16? You do realize that at the end of game four...this board, including Feeble, were ripping his ass? He was a bystander for most of the first four games, and as always, couldn't hit a shot against Iggy in the clutch. In fact, he preferred stats-padding in game four, instead of trying to win the game.

And he needed...1) A ridiculous suspension of Green; 2) and injury to Bogut that kept him out of games six and seven; 3) an injury to Iggy in game six, which essentially left him a shell; and 4) a Kyrie clutch series winning shot...which came after LeBrick had gone 0-4 in the last four minutes.


Gotta love these Lebron-lovers (and I am NOT labeling you BTW ... you are actually one of the very few here that is a knowledgeable poster). He was two shots away from "1-7", and these same morons rip Wilt, who was one blown dribble, and one errant pass away...from two teammates, of going "4-6."

[Bankaii]

You're taking a quote from an owner AFTER the greatest player in the team's history leaves the team. Do you really think that wasn't strictly a biased, hate-filled statement? Why didn't we hear anything about this when Lebron was still there?

Lebron>Wilt, get over it.

[Helix]

Lebron>Wilt, get over it.


In your dreams, son. In your dreams.

[iamgine]

But it was a clear foul...:confusedshrug:

[HurricaneKid]

As was Lebron's '13 and '16 rings.

If you want people to read your prolific posts you shouldn't make such idiotic comments. It destroys your credibility and no one wants to read enormous posts by people without credibility.

[Mr Feeny]

If you want people to read your prolific posts you shouldn't make such idiotic comments. It destroys your credibility and no one wants to read enormous posts by people without credibility.

Pretty much. He's the whipping boy of the forum for a reason.
A fan of an 18 ppg, 37%FT finals scorer who thinks that Lebron's 30,11,9,3,3 2016 finals (where he became the only man in history to lead everyone on all categories and lead his team from a 3-1 deficit ) is choking.

It doesnt get any better than that :oldlol:

[Showtime80']

Perfect storm in favor of the Lakers going on in that sequence!

Kareem at this point had become one of the most respected players in the HISTORY OF THE NBA, nearing retirement almost became a sentimental favorite after years of being very aloof and mistreated by the media. The Showtime Lakers, one of the most beloved teams ever going for the first repeat championship in 19 years was also in the cards.

At the other end you have THE MOST DESPISED PLAYER OF ALL TIME in Bill Laimbeer along with possibly the most hated team in Isiah and the Bad Boy Pistons behind him.

Just bad subplots going against the Pistons all around. Can't say without a doubt that it was or was not a foul but I'll tell you this, the refs probably swallow their whistle had McHale or Bird been guarding Kareem in the same situation!

[LAZERUSS]

If you want people to read your prolific posts you shouldn't make such idiotic comments. It destroys your credibility and no one wants to read enormous posts by people without credibility.

ME????!!!

But the OP is allowed to claim that Magic, Kareem, and Kobe should all have one less ring because of a phantom foul?

NO ONE benefitted MORE from horrible officiating than LeCHOKE.

Hell, the cry-baby balled his eyes out until the league suspended Draymond Green for game five. You know...the same Green who was THE best player in the clinching game seven (and not even close BTW...)

LeFLOP has made a career with his acting.

[LAZERUSS]

Pretty much. He's the whipping boy of the forum for a reason.
A fan of an 18 ppg, 37%FT finals scorer who thinks that Lebron's 30,11,9,3,3 2016 finals (where he became the only man in history to lead everyone on all categories and lead his team from a 3-1 deficit ) is choking.

It doesnt get any better than that :oldlol:

ME...the whipping boy???

I think NOT...

Here is THE FRAUD of ISH...

Mr. "Fence-Jumpin Feeble"

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12569835&postcount=91

[HurricaneKid]

ME????!!!

But the OP is allowed to claim that Magic, Kareem, and Kobe should all have one less ring because of a phantom foul?

NO ONE benefitted MORE from horrible officiating than LeCHOKE.

Hell, the cry-baby balled his eyes out until the league suspended Draymond Green for game five. You know...the same Green who was THE best player in the clinching game seven (and not even close BTW...)

LeFLOP has made a career with his acting.

Without a HORRIFIC call, Detroit wins the game that night. If they win the game that night they win the NBA title. Saying that a player shouldn't have gotten a F1 for punching a player in the balls in G4 (after he had been suitably warned to KNOCK IT OFF) is in any way comparable to a game/series/championship swinging call is dumb. Like REALLY dumb.

And I was one of the few people left reading your posts. But now that I know your posting is so heinously distorted by personal bias I'll likely be ignoring you like everyone else.

[Annyong!]

Kareem also traveled.