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keep-itreal
06-25-2016, 11:36 PM
Both clutch, great offensive players that can take over the 4th quarter and hit the game winning shot.

yet Jordan is still 6/6:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

SouBeachTalents
06-25-2016, 11:37 PM
LeBron's never left a team and had them win 55 games the next season

Dray n Klay
06-25-2016, 11:38 PM
No, he had a team that won 55 games without him





LeBrons teams without him

2011 Cavs - 19 wins


2015 Heat - 37 wins


2016 Cavs- 4 wins 13 losses without him

Nilocon165
06-25-2016, 11:38 PM
What's your point

PP34Deuce
06-26-2016, 12:37 AM
MJ had Phil Jackson and a system proven to win championships with Right personnel. Kobe and MJ don't win any rings without phil. Lebron has been a major part of championships with coaching staffs less stable. And gotten to the finals with 3 diff coaches and stages of his career.

Playing Devils advocate but that's something lebron and his fans can Say he accomplished over the aforementioned players.

tmacattack33
06-26-2016, 12:39 AM
91-98 Pippen > 2016 Irving > 2011-2014 Wade

Now, 2006-2009 Wade would be the best out of these three...but Lebron wasn't on Miami back then.

inclinerator
06-26-2016, 01:19 AM
christian thompson

wind defenders

GrapeApe
06-26-2016, 01:26 AM
91-98 Pippen > 2016 Irving > 2011-2014 Wade

Now, 2006-2009 Wade would be the best out of these three...but Lebron wasn't on Miami back then.

2011 Wade was better than any version of Pippen or Irving. 2012 is close. I think it's more accurate to say '91-'98 Pippen > '2016 Irving > '13-'14 Wade.

KiiiiNG
06-26-2016, 01:31 AM
We've been over this a million times dude.. holy christ. You're not gonna convince us that Jordan had less help than LeBron. Nobody will ever be convinced of that.. mainly because it's so remarkably far from the truth, even most anti-lebron trolls won't touch this subject.

bobeticus
06-26-2016, 01:59 AM
christian thompson

wind defenders

cut some slack... its been a year bro... its been a year

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

red1
06-26-2016, 02:08 AM
no he didn't. he only had pippen, grant/ rodman, and phil

basketball is a team sport guys

Rocketswin2013
06-26-2016, 02:14 AM
lebron never had a coach like phil jackson

Paul George 24
06-26-2016, 02:17 AM
LeBron's never left a team and had them win 55 games the next season

BEACUSE LEBRON'S MUM IS STILL ALIVE

Paul George 24
06-26-2016, 02:18 AM
91-98 Pippen > 2016 Irving > 2011-2014 Wade

Now, 2006-2009 Wade would be the best out of these three...but Lebron wasn't on Miami back then.

PIPPEN IS A ROLE PLAYER :banana:

Paul George 24
06-26-2016, 02:19 AM
lebron never had a coach like phil jackson
PHIL IS OVERRATED,HE IS GREAT BECUASE HE GOT SHAQ & JORDAN :rockon:

Paul George 24
06-26-2016, 02:20 AM
no he didn't. he only had pippen, grant/ rodman, and phil

basketball is a team sport guys
JORDAN DEVELOPED PIPPEN/GRANT,AND LECHOKE JOIN TO A TEAM WITH PRIME BOSH & WADE

Rocketswin2013
06-26-2016, 02:22 AM
PHIL IS OVERRATED,HE IS GREAT BECUASE HE GOT SHAQ & JORDAN :rockon:
shaq and jordan had poor reputations as underachievers before phil. phil gets there in his first year for jordan,and they come uber close to winning...he wins with shaq his first year on the job, and shaq peaked in his first year with phil. both arguably peaked immediately upon his arrival tbh.

Real14
06-26-2016, 02:27 AM
Yup I agree. Plus no d.robinson, and no Kevin garnett.

Poetry
06-26-2016, 02:28 AM
No, he had a team that won 55 games without him

2015 Heat - 37 wins

Bosh missed like 40 games that season.

Then the next season he missed like 30 games, yet they managed 48 wins :confusedshrug:

SouBeachTalents
06-26-2016, 02:33 AM
Bosh missed like 40 games that season.

Then the next season he missed like 30 games, yet they managed 48 wins :confusedshrug:

People bring this up all the time, but the Heat were 19-25 in games Bosh played that season. They actually ended up with a better record in games he missed, going 18-20. Same thing happened this year too

Poetry
06-26-2016, 02:47 AM
People bring this up all the time, but the Heat were 19-25 in games Bosh played that season.

Several of those losses were games where Wade didn't play. Wade missed around 20 games that season.

bond10
06-26-2016, 03:27 AM
MJ had Phil Jackson and a system proven to win championships with Right personnel. Kobe and MJ don't win any rings without phil. Lebron has been a major part of championships with coaching staffs less stable. And gotten to the finals with 3 diff coaches and stages of his career.

Playing Devils advocate but that's something lebron and his fans can Say he accomplished over the aforementioned players.

Tell me about the Knicks. Where's Phil at?

Lebron23
06-26-2016, 03:54 AM
Pippen was a top 5 player in the league from 1994 to 1996. And he was a top 10 player in the league when the Bulls won 4 of their 6th NBA titles.

Round Mound
06-26-2016, 04:20 AM
Pippen was better than both at everything but scoring. And Pippen himself could score 22 PPG on good % he just wasnt a pure scorer like MJ was. There is more to basketball than scoring such as playmaking, rebounding and defense in which Pippen excelled at like very few players. Pippen was all around!