2015/2016 All-NBA Teams (List is out!)

[ArbitraryWater]

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[ArbitraryWater]

Davis and Harden (okay, maybe) not on any, meanwhile DJ first team :facepalm

[ArbitraryWater]

All-NBA voting via points not outdated positions:

1) Curry
2) LBJ
3) Russ
4) Kawhi
5) KD
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6) Green
7) CP3
8) Jordan
9) Boogie
10) Dame

[SouBeachTalents]

Deandre Jordan has to be the worst player to make the All-NBA & All-Defensive First Team in the same season

[Nash]

damn this shit cost Anthony Davis millions and millions

[Tarik One]

No Anthony Davis :wtf:

[ArbitraryWater]

Anthony Davis of New Orleans just lost $23 million on his contract by not making one of the three All-NBA teams.

[Bankaii]

Russ getting a 1st team over KD:eek:

[ArbitraryWater]

Deandre Jordan has to be the worst player to make the All-NBA & All-Defensive First Team in the same season

Gotta be the worst player ever to make First Team All-NBA, period.

[Genaro]

Leonard over KD is a joke. DeAndre in the first team is a joke. Harden not making any of the teams is unfair. Parker, Marc, Duncan, Dwight and Bogut shouldn't have get voted.

[ArbitraryWater]

Leonard over KD is a joke. DeAndre in the first team is a joke. Harden not making any of the teams is unfair. Parker, Marc, Duncan, Dwight and Bogut shouldn't have get voted.

These votes were made after regular season, maybe?

I dont know, hes definitely not better now, but I wouldnt call it a joke... wrong, though.

yo, have you looked at the C spot? How do you not see Dwight getting a few votes?

[imdaman99]

damn this shit cost Anthony Davis millions and millions
Yeah, I am outraged a millionaire won't be making extra millions :rant

They need to get rid of the Center position, just make it the 3 best big men. This is a disgrace. KD not making 1st team is gonna put a chip on his shoulder :pimp:

[BedroomBully]

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Im glad they left KD out!!! This bs will make him fo 10 times as hard tonight! look for him to drop atleast 35 tonight!

[pastis]

DJ first all-nba and first all-defense? omg, thats just ridiculous.

LMA 3rd team? lilliard second team?........ well ok

edit: im not a harden fan, but harden not in and DMC 2nd team? harden over lowry should be reasonable.

[Doctor K]

Who voted for Tony Parker and Andrew Bogut? :lol

[BlakFrankWhite]

Anthony Davis of New Orleans just lost $23 million on his contract by not making one of the three All-NBA teams.

Jeeh-sus

[Genaro]

These votes were made after regular season, maybe?

I dont know, hes definitely not better now, but I wouldnt call it a joke... wrong, though.

yo, have you looked at the C spot? How do you not see Dwight getting a few votes?
Ok, maybe not a joke, but I wouldn't put him over KD just because his team had 12 plus wins. KD had numbers this season that only MJ and Bird had in the last 30 years.

Dwight had a weak season and his team won just 41 games. NBA is facing a weak center era so they gave him some votes out of reputation.

[stalkerforlife]

How the hell did Bran get first team over Durant?

What a JOKE.

[noob cake]

29 PPG/7.5 APG/6.1 RPG on a playoff team is apparently not enough for NBA 3rd team.

[BeastMode24]

How the hell did Bran get first team over Durant?

What a JOKE.

media loves bron. its funny how it used to be because bron had the best stats but all of a sudden when kd has better stats bron is still getting the nod. lmao

[HurricaneKid]

Bunch of folks don't understand the rules of voting.

Who the **** do you WANT to be 1st team All NBA?

I feel bad for Millsap. If voters just would have stuck their middle finger at the C position and voted Dray in there he could have made it.

Otherwise, they clearly did a better job than most of you would have done.

[NBAGOAT]

Bunch of folks don't understand the rules of voting.

Who the **** do you WANT to be 1st team All NBA?

I feel bad for Millsap. If voters just would have stuck their middle finger at the C position and voted Dray in there he could have made it.

Otherwise, they clearly did a better job than most of you would have done.

ik it's tough to leave someone who carried his team to the playoffs or someone who was the 2nd best player on a 67 win team who was awesome the 2nd half of the year but Millsap should've gotten a spot over either Aldridge or George(more likely Aldridge).

[Smook A.]

29 PPG/7.5 APG/6.1 RPG on a playoff team is apparently not enough for NBA 3rd team.
:rolleyes:

[Wally450]

Absolute disrespect to James Harden not making at least the 3rd team.

[bigkingsfan]

Kings player almost made first team since Webber. So close.

[r0drig0lac]

ik it's tough to leave someone who carried his team to the playoffs or someone who was the 2nd best player on a 67 win team who was awesome the 2nd half of the year but Millsap should've gotten a spot over either Aldridge or George(more likely Aldridge).
agree

[inclinerator]

where's james harden

[HurricaneKid]

where's james harden

Prolly cheating on a Kardashian

[Overdrive]

I'd take KAT over DeAndre...

Kawhi, KD, Lebron are interchangeable for the RS, but I think the latter two seperated themselves so far in the playoffs.

[Paul George 24]

Leonard over KD is a joke. DeAndre in the first team is a joke. Harden not making any of the teams is unfair. Parker, Marc, Duncan, Dwight and Bogut shouldn't have get voted.
stay salty :banana:

[Dragonyeuw]

How far has the center position fallen, that Deandre Jordan is the first team selection? :biggums:

[NBAGOAT]

How far has the center position fallen, that Deandre Jordan is the first team selection? :biggums:

besides the 90's, there just isn't that an era with that many great centers(even though this year was especially weak). Like who was worth mentioning outside of Shaq in the early 00's(no disrespect to Wallace). Ik there have been years where they counted Amare and Dirk as centers which is what I think they should've done with Draymond.

[ShawkFactory]

KD over Kawhi and boogie over DeAndre.

Obviously

[josh99]

:wtf: That list is terrible.

[AussieBaller99]

Wtf :wtf: prove the people picking these teams are more stupid then fans that pick the All-star team :facepalm

[Smoke117]

KD over Kawhi and boogie over DeAndre.

Obviously

I would have put Drummond first team...I can't possibly see putting a guy on it whose only accomplishment is leading the Kings to the lottery 6 straight seasons.

[Dragonyeuw]

besides the 90's, there just isn't that an era with that many great centers(even though this year was especially weak). Like who was worth mentioning outside of Shaq in the early 00's(no disrespect to Wallace). Ik there have been years where they counted Amare and Dirk as centers which is what I think they should've done with Draymond.

Ummm, I'm sorry....what?

70s: Wilt, Thurmond, Alcinder, Cowens, Unseld, Mcadoo, Lanier, Reed

80s: Kareem, Moses, Parish, Ewing, Hakeem, Gilmore

In the early 2000s granted, the 80/90s greats were on the way out leaving Shaq as the lone truly dominant force, but no center today is anywhere near that level of dominance. Actually, I'm not even talking about sheer numbers, just the level of greatness. Like, not one center today really holds a candle to any of the historically great centers. DMC is nice, Drummond is an emerging force, but those guys ain't touching the best of the 70s/80s/90s. Hell DMC is really the only true center playing that's talented enough to carry an offense. 5 years ago, Howard was the best center and if you teleported him back 15-20 years, he wouldn't even be better than Mourning, forget Shaq/Hakeem/Ewing/Robinson.

[Paul George 24]

KD over Kawhi and boogie over DeAndre.

Obviously
stay salty :banana:

[NBAGOAT]

Ummm, I'm sorry....what?

70s: Wilt, Thurmond, Alcinder, Cowens, Unseld, Mcadoo, Lanier, Reed

80s: Kareem, Moses, Parish, Ewing, Hakeem, Gilmore

In the early 2000s granted, the 80/90s greats were on the way out leaving Shaq as the lone truly dominant force, but no center today is anywhere near that level of dominance. Actually, I'm not even talking about sheer numbers, just the level of greatness. Like, not one center today really holds a candle to the past greats. DMC is nice, Drummond is an emerging force, but those guys ain't touching the best of the 70s/80s/90s. Hell DMC is really the only true center playing that's talented enough to carry an offense.

k maybe true for early 70's even though that's more carryover from 60's and late 80's is a preview for 90's. There are then years besides those where is was just kareem, mcadoo, cowens or kareem, moses, parish. Centers also have a different role now, more guys have an unseld type role which is not necessarily a terrible thing.

[KiiiiNG]

Wait what the ****?

[ShawkFactory]

stay salty :banana:
:biggums:

[Dragonyeuw]

k maybe true for early 70's even though that's more carryover from 60's and late 80's is a preview for 90's. There are then years besides those where is was just kareem, mcadoo, cowens or kareem, moses, parish. Centers also have a different role now, more guys have an unseld type role which is not necessarily a terrible thing.

They have a different role because there aren't any around that can play the role of yesteryear's greats. DMC is the closest, but make no mistake: put any of the 80''s/90's greats in the league today and they would straight dominate. Shaq? Please, they'd have to outlaw him 'for basketball reasons' if he played today. Put 95 Hakeem on a team today, you think that team is still gonna be jacking 3's left and right or feeding Hakeem down low and working outwards?

The league has moved out to the perimeter, but there's still a place for dominant post play. There's just a lack of all-time great talent at that position right now, highlighted by Jordan's selection but he's by no means the best center. That selection was more about his team's record compared to Drummond and Cousin.

[NBAGOAT]

They have a different role because there aren't any around that can play the role of yesteryear's greats. DMC is the closest, but make no mistake: put any of the 80''s/90's greats in the league today and they would straight dominate. Shaq? Please, they'd have to outlaw him 'for basketball reasons' if he played today. Put 95 Hakeem on a team today, you think that team is still gonna be jacking 3's left and right or feeding Hakeem down low and working outwards?

The league has moved out to the perimeter, but there's still a place for dominant post play. There's just a lack of all-time great talent at that position right now, highlighted by Jordan's selection but he's by no means the best center. That selection was more about his team's record compared to Drummond and Cousin.

I just think the 90's is a huge outlier compared to any other era when it comes to center so it's unfair to always use that era when making a comparison. Also it's not like every it was every year in the 90's Shaq, Hakeem, Drob, and Ewing were in their primes. Ofc teams would feed Hakeem. Shaq dominate on offense but I worry about him on defense with all the perimeter play now.

[Dragonyeuw]

I just think the 90's is a huge outlier compared to any other era when it comes to center so it's unfair to always use that era when making a comparison.

But I just showed it wasn't. The 70's and 80's had a number of really good/great centers. Actually I'm not sure why you say using the 90's as a reference is unfair, because my first post that you quoted made no reference to the 90's at all. None of my subsequent posts have used the 90's as a barometer for that matter. I merely saw that the level of talent at the center position overall has fallen.......which it has.

[NBAGOAT]

But I just showed it wasn't. The 70's and 80's had a number of really good/great centers. Actually I'm not sure why you say using the 90's as a reference is unfair, because my first post that you quoted made no reference to the 90's at all. None of my subsequent posts have used the 90's as a barometer for that matter. I merely saw that the level of talent at the center position overall has fallen.......which it has.

well you cited hakeem and shaq as your 1st guys. And the guys you listed in the 70's and 80's didn't necessarily all overlap. It would be like me including Dwight, Marc, or Pai this year even though Dwight and Pau are past their prime and Marc was injured. I really don't think for example that any of the centers from the mid 70's to mid 80's outside of Kareem and Moses are better than peak Dwight which puts it in more perspective

Edit: Forgot Walton for 2 years.

[Dragonyeuw]

well you cited hakeem and shaq as your 1st guys. And the guys you listed in the 70's and 80's didn't necessarily all overlap. It would be like me including Dwight, Marc, or Pai this year even though Dwight and Pau are past their prime and Marc was injured. I really don't think for example that any of the centers from the mid 70's to mid 80's outside of Kareem and Moses are better than peak Dwight which puts it in more perspective

And? Hakeem was great in the 80s, obviously he peaked in the 90's but he was great in the 80's. Shaq has more dominant 90's seasons than 2K ones. Actually my first reply to you was simply a list of great centers from the 70's and 80's, it didn't specify Shaq or Hakeem nor did I reference the 90's.

But I'm digressing and you're missing the point. My first post wasn't dealing with decades or eras, I only made those lists in response to you to point out how woefully inaccurate your first reply was about none of the other eras being good other than the 90s. The era argument is YOUR argument, not mine. My core point is that no-one playing today holds a candle to the very best of the 70s,80's, or 90s. Cousins wouldn't' be anything special if you put him in the 80's or 90's, nor would Drummond. Jordan wouldn't even be a thought. That's my point. You're getting too caught up in the semantics of eras and players across decades and all this other nonsense that has nothing to do with my initial point.

[NBAGOAT]

And? Hakeem was great in the 80s, obviously he peaked in the 90's but he was great in the 80's. Shaq has more dominant 90's seasons than 2K ones. Actually my first reply to you was simply a list of great centers from the 70's and 80's, it didn't specify Shaq or Hakeem nor did I reference the 90's.

But I'm digressing and you're missing the point. My first post wasn't dealing with decades or eras, I only made those lists in response to you to point out how woefully inaccurate your first reply was about none of the other eras being good other than the 90s. The era argument is YOUR argument, not mine. My core point is that no-one playing today holds a candle to the very best of the 70s,80's, or 90s. Cousins wouldn't' be anything special if you put him in the 80's or 90's, nor would Drummond. Jordan wouldn't even be a thought. That's my point. You're getting too caught up in the semantics of eras and players across decades and all this other nonsense that has nothing to do with my initial point.

I see srry for that. All i'll say is it might be a long time til we see one then even if we see another good era for centers. It might be asking too much for someone to play as well as Peak Kareem, Shaq, or Hakeem.

[Dragonyeuw]

It might be asking too much for someone to play as well as Peak Kareem, Shaq, or Hakeem.

Maybe, because those are transcendent talents. But there's no-one even near the level of Ewing or Robinson, that second tier of great centers. I'd personally take Mourning over today's crop. DMC is more gifted offensively but comparatively a sieve on defense, Drummond is a strong defensive/rebounding interior presence but raw offensively, and Jordan really has no offensive game to speak of and we won't even get into his foul shooting. Howard is a shell of himself...... it's just not a good time for the position. Frankly I wish the league would change it to front-court positions like they did all-star voting, because it's a complete sham that Durant isn't a first teamer but Jordan is just because they need a center on there.

[NBAGOAT]

Maybe, because those are transcendent talents. But there's no-one even near the level of Ewing or Robinson, that second tier of great centers. I'd personally take Mourning over today's crop. DMC is more gifted offensively but comparatively a sieve on defense, Drummond is a strong defensive/rebounding interior presence but raw offensively, and Jordan really has no offensive game to speak of and we won't even get into his foul shooting. Howard is a shell of himself...... it's just not a good time for the position. Frankly I wish the league would change it to front-court positions like they did all-star voting, because it's a complete sham that Durant isn't a first teamer but Jordan is just because they need a center on there.

they've been loose with all-nba voting before. Ik Dirk and Amare have all-nba selections at centers. Think this was a transition year guys like Howard, Pau and Jefferson are past their prime now. It'll be better next year, Marc will comeback, Towns will get even better along with Drummond and Whiteside.

[Dragonyeuw]

they've been loose with all-nba voting before. Ik Dirk and Amare have all-nba selections at centers. Think this was a transition year guys like Howard, Pau and Jefferson are past their prime now. It'll be better next year, Marc will comeback, Towns will get even better along with Drummond and Whiteside.

Perhaps, we'll see. But overall, Jordan as first team is an absolute sham.

[LilEddyCurry]

Why is Leonard over Kevin Durant? Durant is the better player, has better stats and also knocked him out of the playoffs. Leonard is so damn overrated.

[G-train]

Aldridge should not have sniffed all-nba.
Either should have Jordan, yet is FIRST team.

[Prime_Shaq]

The NBA should remove the Center position like the All-Star teams

[Inferno]

Lillard :bowdown:

[BigTicket]

Harden really got screwed here.

Sure he wasn't as good as last year, but he still averaged 29/6/8 on 60%TS while leading his team to the playoffs. He should have been 2nd team, clearly better than Lillard/Thompson/Lowry.

In the entire history of the NBA, only 3 other players have averaged 29/6/7 for a season, they are:

Jordan
Lebron
Oscar

For Harden to join that select group and then get left off the all-NBA team is simply ridiculous.

[oarabbus]

Durant off the first team is a travesty. He is killing us this series and killed SA too. He's every bit as good if not better than westbrook. Hard to compete with a 6'11" shooter...

[BigTicket]

Durant off the first team is a travesty. He is killing us this series and killed SA too. He's every bit as good if not better than westbrook. Hard to compete with a 6'11" shooter...

He missed out on the first team for 3 simple reason: Lebron, Kawhi and Westbrook.

Lebron and Kawhi lead their teams to better records than Durant, and Westbrook took over as the leader for OKC.

[HurricaneKid]

Threads like this are embarrassing for ISH. SOOOooo many people have no idea how voting is done, what the constraints are, or even WHEN the voting is done.

A) Votes have to be in before the playoffs. This is a regular season award.

B) You HAVE to put a C in. Boogie was ALREADY the only All NBA player that didn't make the playoffs. He didn't come close. Now you want his empty stats in 1st team?

[HurricaneKid]

Harden really got screwed here.

Sure he wasn't as good as last year, but he still averaged 29/6/8 on 60%TS while leading his team to the playoffs. He should have been 2nd team, clearly better than Lillard/Thompson/Lowry.

In the entire history of the NBA, only 3 other players have averaged 29/6/7 for a season, they are:

Jordan
Lebron
Oscar

For Harden to join that select group and then get left off the all-NBA team is simply ridiculous.

And he led the #2 seed and Conf Finals team from last year to come within 1 game of missing the playoffs. His defense won him a lifetime achievement award in Shaqtin a Fool. He got a HoFer fired because he wasn't even in shape at the beginning of the season. He destroyed his team with his refusal to do anything but hold the ball, Iso and shoot.

I consider it a remarkable accomplishment for the voters to see past stats and into impact. And Harden simply didn't impact the league like the rest of the guys.

[Klay 3D]

No James Har_en? :roll:
29/8/6 and not an All-NBA :roll:

:applause:

[BallsOut]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CjZ5eSxVAAA_37R.jpg

Looks like they finally got it right :lebronamazed:

[ekosky]

Durant doesn't even deserve to be on the 2nd team.

[Disaprine]

deandre jordan :roll: