2014 Dragic VS Peak Nash

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

Who u got? Obviously KJ owns the greatest peak for a Phoenix PG but whos 2nd?

Goran: 20/6/3 51/41/76 shoot, carried Phoenix to 48 wins in one of the toughest conferences ever, with his two best best teammates being Markieff Morris and Gerald Green (or Channing Frye :lol :lol )

Nash: 19/11/3 53/45/90 shoot, 61 wins but played with great coach in Dantoni, as well as playing with one of the most stacked rosters in the league including fringe top 5 player in Amare and top 15 player in Marion. Also had Diaw, Barbosa, Bell. Hell Kurt Thomas wouldve been a top 3 player for Gorans team:biggums:

Im going with Goran. Not the passer/playmaker but he didnt have a GOAT level pickandroll/finishing big in Amare or the spacing Nash had. Plus Goran was a good defender, Nash is one of the worst of alltime

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[Velocirap31]

Great coach in Dantoni?

[Klay 3D]

How'd you get 53/25/90 for Steve Nash?

[AirBonner]

Nash. Nothing here to discuss :facepalm

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

How'd you get 53/25/90 for Steve Nash?
My bad its 45
fixed

[greatest-ever]

Good lord. You are either trolling or on hard drugs if you think this is a legit comparison.

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

Great coach in Dantoni?
Yes theres a reason guys like Pop and Kerr praise him and take alot from his offensive system. One of the best offensive coaches of alltime, revolutionized offense in the NBA:applause:

[PJR]

Stupid thread

[feyki]

Stupid thread

+1

[Underrated KD]

:biggums:

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

Imagine if Goran played with peak Amare, Marion, Diaw, Barbosa, Kurt, Raja and coached by Dantoni and not a rookie coach:biggums: :biggums:

[Klay 3D]

Imagine if Goran played with peak Amare, Marion, Diaw, Barbosa, Kurt, Raja and coached by Dantoni and not a rookie coach:biggums: :biggums:
2016 Spurs 2.0? :eek:

Old Tony -> Prime Dragic
Green -> Bell
Kawhi -> Marion
Aldridge -> Prime Amare
Duncan -> Kurt

Manu -> Prime Barbosa
Diaw -> Diaw

Not a 69 win team but 60 isn't out of the question.

[Dresta]

This guy can't be serious :facepalm

Nash is an all-time great when it comes to offensive impact. Aren't the majority of the best offenses in NBA history Nash-led teams, in Dallas and Phoenix?

[Real14]

:oldlol:

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

2016 Spurs 2.0? :eek:

Old Tony -> Prime Dragic
Green -> Bell
Kawhi -> Marion
Aldridge -> Prime Amare
Duncan -> Kurt

Manu -> Prime Barbosa
Diaw -> Diaw

Not a 69 win team but 60 isn't out of the question.
Prime Goran >>> Old Tony
Raja = Green
Kawhi > Matrix
Amare > LMA
Kurt > Timmy

[SteveNashMVPcro]

This guy can't be serious :facepalm

Nash is an all-time great when it comes to offensive impact. Aren't the majority of the best offenses in NBA history Nash-led teams, in Dallas and Phoenix?
6 out of 12 if I'm not mistaken, including the top 3

Dragic is a good player but not in the same hemisphere as Nash

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

6 out of 12 if I'm not mistaken, including the top 3

Dragic is a good player but not in the same hemisphere as Nash
Playing with Dirk and Amare 2 of the GOAT offensive bigs specially in pickandpop for Dirk and roll for Amare:facepalm Dirk is the GOAT big men and midrange shooter. Amare is arguably the GOAT big man pickandroll big/finisher. We talkin bout a dude who avged 37/10 on 55%FG against prime Timmy in a series:facepalm

Dragics bigs were Markieff Morris and Channing Frye:oldlol: :oldlol:

[warriorfan]

I hate on steve nash a lot but this thread is pretty insane :roll:

[Poetry]

Who u got? Obviously KJ owns the greatest peak for a Phoenix PG but whos 2nd?

Remember when PHX had KJ, Kidd, and Nash at the same time? So much talent :pimp:

[JimmyMcAdocious]

Great coach in Dantoni?

His winning percentage is ~40% without Phoenix Nash. As a comparison, Byron Scott's career coaching win pct is .412.

[Rocketswin2013]

no

[GrapeApe]

The guy who won 2 MVP's.

[livingby3's]

is this another wrong user login?

[SteveNashMVPcro]

Playing with Dirk and Amare 2 of the GOAT offensive bigs specially in pickandpop for Dirk and roll for Amare:facepalm Dirk is the GOAT big men and midrange shooter. Amare is arguably the GOAT big man pickandroll big/finisher. We talkin bout a dude who avged 37/10 on 55%FG against prime Timmy in a series:facepalm

Dragics bigs were Markieff Morris and Channing Frye:oldlol: :oldlol:

The 2010/2011 Suns had the 9th highest ORTG in the league with Nash being their main scorer and playmaker at the age of 36. His second best player was either Gortat who misses over 25 games or Grant Hill( who was 38 at the time). Also according to this: http://www.82games.com/1011/ROLRTG8.HTM Nash had the higest on/off rating in the league. Even if this isn't fully correct, just showing how was still among leagues highest impact players at the age of 36 is amazing.

So the real questing here is 2014 Dragic or 2011 Nash. But enough of feeding the troll, got better things to do :sleeping

[Milbuck]

:biggums:

[CuterThanRubio]

You guys weren't supposed to post in this garbage troll thread, but now its gaining traction and I've been forced to squash OP.

Goran choked to the max in the last three games that actually meant something and they missed the playoffs because of it during his breakout season.

They won their final game against SAC but they were eliminated by then and it meant nothing.

Empty stats.

You brought up Markieff and Gerald like they weren't contributing that year, but they also had breakout seasons and I would argue they had more of an impact than Goran did.

Gerald was 4th in threes made that year, his shooting was responsible for many of Goran's assists.

He was one of the best instant offense guys I've ever seen, he single-handedly cooked OKC with 41 points, which happens to be more than Goran has EVER scored in a game, which is 40 against the Pelicans in that same season.

Markieff was 4th in sixth man of the year voting as well.

Goran had plenty of help, and even then his season led to absolutely nothing other than increasing the value of his next contract.

Joke thread and you know you don't believe this bs, nothing more than a cry for attention.

[Smoke117]

http://vomzi.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/cute-cringe-gif-456.gif

[T_L_P]

That stacked team was, what, 3-15 without Nash from his MVP year to 2010?

Yeah, so incredibly stacked.

[JtotheIzzo]

Who u got? Obviously KJ owns the greatest peak for a Phoenix PG but whos 2nd?

Goran: 20/6/3 51/41/76 shoot, carried Phoenix to 48 wins in one of the toughest conferences ever, with his two best best teammates being Markieff Morris and Gerald Green (or Channing Frye :lol :lol )

Nash: 19/11/3 53/45/90 shoot, 61 wins but played with great coach in Dantoni, as well as playing with one of the most stacked rosters in the league including fringe top 5 player in Amare and top 15 player in Marion. Also had Diaw, Barbosa, Bell. Hell Kurt Thomas wouldve been a top 3 player for Gorans team:biggums:

Im going with Goran. Not the passer/playmaker but he didnt have a GOAT level pickandroll/finishing big in Amare or the spacing Nash had. Plus Goran was a good defender, Nash is one of the worst of alltime

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You and Propane80s in a dog race for the biggest tard on the board. You are quickly narrowing the gap, PB needs to post more.

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

That stacked team was, what, 3-15 without Nash from his MVP year to 2010?

Yeah, so incredibly stacked.
b/c they had no backup PG dummy:hammerhead: :hammerhead: Diaw as great a ballhandler/playmaker as he was isnt a PG. If they even had an avg backup PG they wouldve done far better

[JtotheIzzo]

b/c they had no backup PG dummy:hammerhead: :hammerhead: Diaw as great a ballhandler/playmaker as he was isnt a PG. If they even had an avg backup PG they wouldve done far better

every point you make you get dumber and dumber.

walk away, take a breath, retire from posting for an extended period of time. if you feel the urge come back and try again after an extended absence.

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

every point you make you get dumber and dumber.

walk away, take a breath, retire from posting for an extended period of time. if you feel the urge come back and try again after an extended absence.
no counter arguments like always

go back to not posting, this place was better that way

[aj1987]

Who u got? Obviously KJ owns the greatest peak for a Phoenix PG but whos 2nd?

Goran: 20/6/3 51/41/76 shoot, carried Phoenix to 48 wins in one of the toughest conferences ever, with his two best best teammates being Markieff Morris and Gerald Green (or Channing Frye :lol :lol )

Nash: 19/11/3 53/45/90 shoot, 61 wins but played with great coach in Dantoni, as well as playing with one of the most stacked rosters in the league including fringe top 5 player in Amare and top 15 player in Marion. Also had Diaw, Barbosa, Bell. Hell Kurt Thomas wouldve been a top 3 player for Gorans team:biggums:

Im going with Goran. Not the passer/playmaker but he didnt have a GOAT level pickandroll/finishing big in Amare or the spacing Nash had. Plus Goran was a good defender, Nash is one of the worst of alltime

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[SteveNashMVPcro]

b/c they had no backup PG dummy:hammerhead: :hammerhead: Diaw as great a ballhandler/playmaker as he was isnt a PG. If they even had an avg backup PG they wouldve done far better
You realise Dragic was their bakcup PG from 2008 to mid 2011:oldlol:

[swagga]

dragic is slightly ahead of nash
...
right now.

[Wade's Rings]

]no counter arguments like always[/B]

go back to not posting, this place was better that way

Funny you say this after ignoring SteveNashMVPcro's post where you were proven wrong on Nash needing scoring bigs to run a good offense. :roll:

[Lebron23]

This is a terrible thread. Give me Steve Nash.