4 obvious reasons why Curry isn't on Jordan's level

[3ball]

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1) This is Curry's first season as the NBA's best offensive player, compared to Jordan's 10 (in a row).



2) This is Curry's first season with 31+ PER, compared to Jordan's 4 seasons... And Jordan's 4 seasons were superior OVERALL as well:


Per 100 Possessions:

Jordan 88-91 (4 seasons): 42.2 pts.. 8.4 rebs.. 8.2 ast.. 3.9 tov.. 3.7 stl.. 1.3 blk.. 31.4 PER
Curry.. 2016.. (1 season).: 42.1 pts.. 7.7 rebs.. 9.4 ast.. 4.7 tov.. 3.0 stl.. 0.3 blk.. 31.2 PER




3) Who cares about true shooting if you're carrying the bigger load while winning rings - 34-35 year old Jordan won rings while carrying a bigger load:


................PERCENTAGE OF TEAM POINTS SCORED WHILE PLAYER WAS ON FLOOR


.........................RS.....RS 4th.... PO....PO 4th....Finals.. Finals 4th


JORDAN 1997... 36.0 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Regular%20Season)..... 40.1 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&Period=4)..... 37.7 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Playoffs)..... 46.3 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4)...... 40.9 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=4)...... 50.4 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4&PORound=4) <--- links to nba.com data
JORDAN 1998... 36.3 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Regular%20Season)..... 42.1 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&Period=4)..... 39.7 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Playoffs)..... 48.8 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4)...... 43.6 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=4)...... 49.1 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4&PORound=4)

CURRY 2015..... 29.9 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/usage/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Regular%20Season)..... 36.2 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/usage/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&Period=4)..... 33.4 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/usage/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Playoffs)..... 36.6 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/usage/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4)...... 29.3 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/usage/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=4)...... 40.6 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/usage/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=4&Period=4)
CURRY 2016..... 34.8 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/usage/)..... 39.3 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/usage/?Season=2015-16&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&Period=4)




4) Jordan was the best on BOTH ends


Jordan's defensive impact dwarfs Curry's, especially against teams with great perimeter players, since Jordan can guard guys like Magic, Lebron, or Drexler, while Curry can only defend guys like Shumpert, Delly, etc.

There's a reason Curry didn't win FMVP in last year's Finals - he only did half the job, while Iggy did the other half (defense).

Otoh, MJ performed Iggy's duties on defense by guarding Magic/Drexler, while still having a goat offensive impact - Jordan's 2-way ability is why he has 6 FMVP's, compared to Curry's 0.
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[AirBonner]

Stats don't lie

[Dr Hawk]

Jordan is EASILY superior to an inferior player

[SouBeachTalents]

How ironic that the player/team that relies on the 3ball is gonna surpass his favorite players best record

[Dr Seuss]

1 obvious reason curry is on jordans level

He has OP more shook than Japan was in 2011

[navy]

Curry is the greatest at the greatest shot in basketball. He's better than Jordan

[JohnMax]

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/1065485/eminem-stan-o.gif

[AirBonner]

How ironic that the player/team that relies on the 3ball is gonna surpass his favorite players best record
Savage :lol

[riseagainst]

Curry is the superior player. End of discussion.

[HighFlyer23]

Chernobyl in here for this 3 ball ******

[Smoke117]

Meltdown.

[3ball]

Stats don't lie


http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ll7b17fk5t1qcf5lvo1_500.gif

[Captvic]

How ironic that the player/team that relies on the 3ball is gonna surpass his favorite players best record

:roll: :roll: :roll:

[3ball]

:roll: :roll: :roll:
It's called being a prophet

You'll never have enough knowledge or be wise enough about ANYTHING to have this kind of foresight

:pimp:

[Quickening]

Curry offensively is the better player...

[3ball]

Curry offensively is the better player...
Due to true shooting ALONE?... That's dumb

Jordan had superior PPG, points-per-possession, PER, offensive win shares - basically EVERYTHING

Also, this is Curry's first season as the NBA's best offensive player, which means he has 9 more to go (in a row) to match Jordan.. He's nowhere NEAR Jordan.

[IllegalD]

Nothing to see here but another 40+ year old man melting down because his false "Gods' are getting killed.

[riseagainst]

Curry is the superior player.... move on.

[Cocaine80s]

Curry>Jordan

[3ball]

Curry>Jordan
THAT'S the response I was waiting for

This thread accomplished it's objective - in the face of facts, all you have left is a weak troll.. :banana: :hammertime:

[Cocaine80s]

THAT'S the response I was waiting for

This thread accomplished it's objective - in the face of facts, all you have left is a weak troll.. :banana: :hammertime:
72-9>72-10

[Gileraracer]

Everyone not delutional knows that Curry isn't on Jordans level after one title. That's just the hype

[toprange]

Jordan's basketball techniques are far superior than Curry's

[Cocaine80s]

Jordan's basketball techniques are far superior than Curry's
Strong alt

[Boogey]

Why people always wanna compare apples and oranges. Just watch the show

[KungFuJoe]

Curry is gonna go down as an all timer.

But Jordan is better. And as great as Curry is, he'll never be as great.

I don't know if anyone ever will. The combination of talent, drive AND accolades? Unseen in pretty much any sport in history.

[Mr. Jabbar]

hmm..

73 > 72, in a tougher era.

Curry is a couple of tiers above jordan right now. jordan was still great tho dont get me wrong, big fan of his airness myself.

[riseagainst]

Individually speaking, Curry is a better player than MJ.

Team success speaking, Warriors have at least the record of the 96 Bulls, plus Curry is a better player than MJ that season while achieving the same team success.

[toprange]

Individually speaking, Curry is a better player than MJ.

Team success speaking, Warriors have at least the record of the 96 Bulls, plus Curry is a better player than MJ that season while achieving the same team success.

So you rather possess the skills of curry than jordan?:no:

[3ball]

hmm..

73 > 72, in a tougher era.


Team PPG is higher today than in 1996 and pace is much faster too.

Now the question is WHY do teams score more today and play at faster pace than the 90's?

It's simple - the wide open spacing and hands-off perimeter defense allows "greater freedom of movement", as the league intended with the new rules:

http://www.nba.com/2009/news/features/04/09/stujackson/index.html






Curry is a couple of tiers above jordan


THAT'S the response I was waiting for

This thread accomplished it's objective - in the face of OP's facts, all you have left is a weak troll.. :hammertime:

[Cocaine80s]

So you rather possess the skills of curry than jordan?:no:
Yes. Jordan was only that good because he was 6'8 245 lbs

Put him in Curry's 6'1 175 lb body and he would barely make the roster

[CP3PO]

Why did OP list 4 reasons he has an unhealthy obsession?

[toprange]

Yes. Jordan was only that good because he was 6'8 245 lbs

Put him in Curry's 6'1 175 lb body and he would barely make the roster
jordan put in the work

[Quickening]

Curry's Warriors are averaging 115 ppg with a league average of 102 ppg, 13 plus ppg differential :eek: .. Did MJ ever elevate his team to hit such heights offensively? Did he ever create such spacing with such efficient offence :confusedshrug:

Curry>MJ offensively, it isnt really close.

Close this thread down! :banana: :banana:

[3ball]

Did MJ ever elevate his team to ever hit such heights offensively?

Did he ever create such efficient offense?


Jordan's 1991, 1996, and 1997 Bulls had higher ORtg than this year's Warriors.

So yes, he elevated his team higher on offense than Curry did the Warriors - this is statistical fact (Bulls had higher ORtg).





Curry's Warriors are averaging 115 ppg with a league average of 102 ppg, 13 plus ppg differential



Those are TEAM achievements - Curry's teammates helped him a super-ton, so he carried a smaller LOAD than many previous players, including old man Jordan:



................PERCENTAGE OF TEAM POINTS SCORED WHILE PLAYER WAS ON FLOOR


.........................RS.....RS 4th.... PO....PO 4th....Finals.. Finals 4th


JORDAN 1997... 36.0 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Regular%20Season)..... 40.1 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&Period=4)..... 37.7 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Playoffs)..... 46.3 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4)...... 40.9 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=4)...... 50.4 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4&PORound=4) <--- links to nba.com data
JORDAN 1998... 36.3 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Regular%20Season)..... 42.1 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&Period=4)..... 39.7 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Playoffs)..... 48.8 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4)...... 43.6 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=4)...... 49.1 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4&PORound=4)

CURRY 2015..... 29.9 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/usage/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Regular%20Season)..... 36.2 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/usage/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&Period=4)..... 33.4 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/usage/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Playoffs)..... 36.6 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/usage/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4)...... 29.3 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/usage/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=4)...... 40.6 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/usage/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=4&Period=4)
CURRY 2016..... 34.8 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/usage/)..... 39.3 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/usage/?Season=2015-16&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&Period=4)






Curry > Jordan offensively



MANY players had greater individual seasons than Curry will have this year, such as Jordan's 4 seasons from 1988-1991:



Per 100 Possessions:

Jordan 88-91 (4 seasons): 42.2 pts.. 8.4 rebs.. 8.2 ast.. 3.9 tov.. 3.7 stl.. 1.3 blk.. 31.4 PER
Curry.. 2016.. (1 season).: 42.1 pts.. 7.7 rebs.. 9.4 ast.. 4.7 tov.. 3.0 stl.. 0.3 blk.. 31.2 PER

[Quickening]

The aim of basketball offensively is too score the most amount of points possible... Curry spacing, incredible shooting and passing means his team has averaged 115 ppg this year, 13 ppg higher than league average.

How many seasons did Jordan make his team so good offensively?

:lol :roll:

#Wrecked

IT'S OVER :banana: :banana:

[3ball]

The aim of basketball offensively is too score the most amount of points possible...

Curry's his team has averaged 115 ppg this year, 13 ppg higher than league average.


Today's NBA plays at a much faster pace than 1996, and the Warriors are #1 in pace - they play at 99.3 pace compared to the Bulls' 91.1 pace.

That's why OFFENSIVE RATING (ORtg) is the stat to use, since it accounts for pace - and the Bulls had higher ORtg than the Warriors in 1991, 1996, and 1997.

Also, the 96' Bulls had higher SRS than the Warriors... So you lose and it's a blowout

[riseagainst]

Today's NBA plays at a much faster pace than 1996, and the Warriors are #1 in pace - they play at 99.3 pace compared to the Bulls' 91.1 pace.

That's why OFFENSIVE RATING (ORtg) is the stat to use, since it accounts for pace - and the Bulls had higher ORtg than the Warriors in 1991, 1996, and 1997.

Also, the 96' Bulls had higher SRS than the Warriors... So you lose and it's a blowout


So you are saying, Curry is doing all this with an inferior team than what MJ had for the 96 Bulls.

That's even more impressive.

[Quickening]

Today's NBA plays at a much faster pace than 1996, and the Warriors are #1 in pace - they play at 99.3 pace compared to the Bulls' 91.1 pace.

That's why OFFENSIVE RATING (ORtg) is the stat to use, since it accounts for pace - and the Bulls had higher ORtg than the Warriors in 1991, 1996, and 1997.

Also, the 96' Bulls had higher SRS than the Warriors... So you lose and it's a blowout

13 ppg higher than league average!!!!

WE WIN AGAIN!

Curry>> MJ

[bdreason]

Not even ESPN is comparing Curry to MJ... and they spent years trying to compare both Kobe and LeBron to MJ.

Nobody thinks Curry is as good as MJ. It's all in your head.

[iznogood]

Not only is Curry better, he is also much thicker. He'd be the thickest player on the Bulls easily. Kerr might've been thicker than MJ too since he managed to reach 72 twice.

[Straight_Ballin]

How ironic that the player/team that relies on the 3ball is gonna surpass his favorite players best record

How ironic that's Jordan won his last ring back in 98 and since then, no one has even come close to sniffing his greatness. Curry needs to win 5 more times in the finals and get at least 5 FMVP to even be mentioned in the same breath. A DPOY award will also be needed.

We're waiting.....

[riseagainst]

Not only is Curry better, he is also much thicker. He'd be the thickest player on the Bulls easily. Kerr might've been thicker than MJ too since he managed to reach 72 twice.


o sh1T

:lol
:roll:

[3ball]

13 ppg higher than league average!!!!


Same as the 1985 Denver Nuggets, the 2007 Phoenix Suns, and many other high-scoring teams shitty defense (compared to the 1996 Bulls).

Otoh, here's the stat that really matters - points-per-possession (also called offensive rating, or ORtg):

the 1996 Bulls were 8 points higher than league average in ORtg, just like the Warriors this year... except the Bulls had a GOAT defense to match their GOAT offense, which makes them greater

take this L

[CuterThanRubio]

Same as the 1985 Denver Nuggets, the 2007 Phoenix Suns, and many other high-scoring teams shitty defense (compared to the 1996 Bulls).

Otoh, here's the stat that really matters - points-per-possession (also called offensive rating, or ORtg):

the 1996 Bulls were 8 points higher than league average in ORtg, just like the Warriors this year... except the Bulls had a GOAT defense to match their GOAT offense, which makes them greater

take this L

The Bulls didn't have GOAT offense, the Warriors do, sorry pal!

MELTDOWN!

[Quickening]

The Bulls didn't have GOAT offense, the Warriors do, sorry pal!

MELTDOWN!

:applause: :applause: :banana: :banana: :cheers:

[3ball]

The Bulls didn't have GOAT offense, the Warriors do, sorry pal!

MELTDOWN!
Who scored more points per possession and had higher SRS - the 1996 Bulls or the 2016 Warriors?

That's what I thought.. Take this L

[CuterThanRubio]

Who scored more points per possession and had higher SRS - the 1996 Bulls or the 2016 Warriors?

That's what I thought.. Take this L

Who played in a watered down league?


Oh yeah, the Bulls

The Warriors faced tougher competition, even the LOWLY WOLVES would be a top seed in the 90s, no question.

[3ball]

The Warriors faced tougher competition, even the LOWLY WOLVES would be a top seed in the 90s, no question.


League-wide PPG and pace are much higher today than in 1996 - it's much easier to score today.

Btw, Garnett was an all-star during Jordan's 2nd three-peat, whereas he's a joke today - has he retired yet?... He should

[knicksman]

Leadership>>>everything else. So its no surprise, jordan is 1-9 without daddy phil. While curry is already a winner from the get go. The guy could already win rings with just all star nos.(last season), how much with superstar(72 going for 73). And 72 wins tells me hes on the same level or better than jordan without playing defense and elite athleticism. So how much better he is really skill wise? Tier or 2 tiers above?

[Young X]

Who was the best offensive player last year OP?

[!@#$%Vectors!@#]

Jordan's basketball techniques are far superior than Curry's


2ball melting down...... Someone call the suicide hotline because this fakkit is going to be on the watch on Wednesday. .

[SouBeachTalents]

Who was the best offensive player last year OP?

Westbrook, since he won the scoring title. According to OP scoring leader automatically means best offensive player

[raprap]

Ordan is old news. He'd be Tony Allen in todays league :lol

[!@#$%Vectors!@#]

Ordan is old news. He'd be Tony Allen in todays league :lol

thats a disrespect to Tony Allen a champion.


Ordan wouldnt even sniff a chip.

Also Tony Allen would be a way better two way player than Ordan would be if Ordan played in this bloodbath of an era.



The 90's were pretty much a bubblebath hence the inflated stats, the need for handchecking to give the illusion of toughness and his 6* rings.


:confusedshrug:

[3ball]

The 90's were pretty much a bubblebath hence the inflated stats


What inflated stats?

This season, 26 guys average over 20 ppg, and 19 of them are perimeter players.. In 1996, only 22 players averaged over 20 ppg, and only 11 of them were perimeter players.

Ultimately, FAR less perimeter players were 20 ppg scorers in the 90's.

Furthermore, there were only two 30 ppg scorers TOTAL in the 90's, compared to 8 from 2000's.

[CuterThanRubio]

What inflated stats?

This season, 26 guys average over 20 ppg, and 19 of them are perimeter players.. In 1996, only 22 players averaged over 20 ppg, and only 11 of them were perimeter players.

Ultimately, FAR less perimeter players were 20 ppg scorers in the 90's.

Furthermore, there were only two 30 ppg scorers TOTAL in the 90's, compared to 8 from 2000's.

Skewing numbers to fit your narrative!

There were more 20ppg scorers through the first six years of the 90s than there have been through the first six of the 10s

I already shut your BS down in my last thread, son!

Paint defense has improved DRAMATICALLY over the last 20 years and bigs are no longer facing one on one matchups against undersized bums.

(Illegal defense)

Just get over it man, modern basketball is superior and 20 years from now it will be even greater than it is today.

Human civilization has PROGRESSED throughout history, you can compare anything from 20 years ago to its current counterpart and the NEW and IMPROVED version will be of higher quality.

Find some new material, this Ordan stanning is ridiculous. I bet you are the nerdiest SLOB the world has ever known, just armchair critiquing for the fvck of it, I see through your act!

:coleman:

[3ball]

Skewing numbers to fit your narrative!

There were more 20ppg scorers through the first six years of the 90s than there have been through the first six of the 10s


What kind of stat is that.. :whatever:

In today's game, more 20 ppg scorers are perimeter players (PG, SG, SF) than ever before.. It's not even close.

This season, 26 guys average over 20 ppg, and 19 of them are perimeter players.. In 1996, only 22 players averaged over 20 ppg, and only 11 of them were perimeter players.





Paint defense has improved causing post-ups to disappear


That's a poor understanding of the game - post-ups disappeared as 3-point shooting became more popular and more used.

Now that teams have sufficient 3-point shooting personnel to drive-and-kick for 3-pointers (as opposed to 2-pointers), the drive-and-kick format has become more efficient than the post-up format.. This proves that the decline in post-ups is due to higher efficiency drive-and-kick made possible by 3-pointers, not defensive tactics.. In the absence of 3-pointers, no amount of defensive strategy could prevent post-ups from supplanting drive-and-kick..

Since post-ups, mid-range, off-ball and isolations were the only things left in the 80's without the 3-pointers needed to make drive-and-kick worthwhile, we can say with certainty that many of today's elite players would be lesser players back then - their 3-and-D skill sets exclude elite ability in any of the aforementioned areas.






bigs are no longer facing one on one matchups against undersized bums.


http://www.nba.com/news/survey_2007.html


1985-86: 6’ 7.36”
1986-87: 6’ 7.62”
1987-88: 6’ 7.38”
1988-89: 6’ 7.31”
1989-90: 6’ 7.09”
1990-91: 6’ 7.16”
1991-92: 6’ 7.04”
1992-93: 6’ 7.06”
1993-94: 6’ 7.34”
1994-95: 6’ 7.19”
1995-96: 6’ 7.27”
1996-97: 6’ 7.20”
1997-98: 6’ 7.11”
1998-99: 6’ 7.10”
1999-00: 6’ 7.26”
2000-01: 6’ 7.03”
2001-02: 6’ 7.26”
2002-03: 6’ 7.40”
2003-04: 6' 7.31"
2004-05: 6' 7.26"
2005-06: 6' 7.18"
2006-07: 6' 6.93"
2007-08: 6' 6.98"

[Duffy Pratt]

Your first three points all have to do with career accomplishments. You can't compare their careers yet. After seven seasons, Jordan had won one championship, with one MVP. Curry did the same after six. Does that mean anything? Not at all.

Will Curry's career end up being better than Jordan's? Probably not.

However, if the Warriors continue their pace through the playoffs and win the championship this year, then Curry will have had a peak year that is at the same level as Jordan's peak. But that hasn't happened yet either. Everyone taking a firm stance, on either side of this argument, is simply full of __it.

[3ball]

Curry will have had a peak year that is at the same level as Jordan's peak


Anyone that says this is also saying "I don't value defense".

Obviously, MJ's defensive impact dwarfs Curry's - this is especially true against teams that have great perimeter players, since MJ can guard guys like Magic, Lebron, or Drexler, while Curry can only defend guys like Shumpert, Delly, etc.

There's a reason Curry didn't win FMVP in last year's Finals - he only did half the job, while Iggy did the other half (defense).

Otoh, MJ performed Iggy's duties on defense by guarding Magic/Drexler, while still having a goat offensive impact - Jordan's 2-way ability is why he has 6 FMVP's, compared to Curry's 0.

[Straight_Ballin]

Who played in a watered down league?


Oh yeah, the Bulls

The Warriors faced tougher competition, even the LOWLY WOLVES would be a top seed in the 90s, no question.

Curry plays in a league where you can't even touch him and it's a foul. Compare that to when MJ played.

Curry isn't on MJ's level because he hasn't historically dominated his opposition as much as Jordan did. He's on pace, but let the guy win a DPOY award before we start getting too excited and patting ourselves on the back with nothing to show for it.

[3ball]

Your first three points all have to do with career accomplishments. You can't compare their careers yet.



No one is comparing careers.

But who cares about true shooting when Jordan won rings while carrying a bigger load on both ends, even as a 34-35 year old man:


................PERCENTAGE OF TEAM POINTS SCORED WHILE PLAYER WAS ON FLOOR


.........................RS.....RS 4th.... PO....PO 4th....Finals.. Finals 4th


JORDAN 1997... 36.0 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Regular%20Season)..... 40.1 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&Period=4)..... 37.7 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Playoffs)..... 46.3 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4)...... 40.9 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=4)...... 50.4 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4&PORound=4) <--- links to nba.com data
JORDAN 1998... 36.3 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Regular%20Season)..... 42.1 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&Period=4)..... 39.7 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Playoffs)..... 48.8 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4)...... 43.6 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=4)...... 49.1 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4&PORound=4)

CURRY 2015..... 29.9 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/usage/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Regular%20Season)..... 36.2 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/usage/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&Period=4)..... 33.4 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/usage/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Playoffs)..... 36.6 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/usage/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4)...... 29.3 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/usage/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=4)...... 40.6 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/usage/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=4&Period=4)
CURRY 2016..... 34.8 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/usage/)..... 39.3 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/usage/?Season=2015-16&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&Period=4)



Keep in mind that Jordan's 1997 and 1998 championships occurred in a league with lower PPG, Pace, and ORtg.

[Duffy Pratt]

[B]No one is comparing careers.



Not Comparing Careers?

"1) This is Curry's first season as the NBA's best offensive player, compared to Jordan's 10 (in a row).



2) This is Curry's first season with 31+ PER, compared to Jordan's 4 seasons... "

What do you call that, if not comparing careers? On top of your other lies, you also routinely lie about what you said in your original post. It's mind boggling.

[Duffy Pratt]

Anyone that says this is also saying "I don't value defense".

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Not at all. I would also put Russell's best seasons at the same level. And that doesn't mean that I don't value offense. Isn't it possible to value winning while playing perfectly in a team system that is designed around your strengths?

This isn't a game where people play primarily to adjust their ranking on people's stupid GOAT lists, no matter how much you want to turn it into one.

[CuterThanRubio]

Curry plays in a league where you can't even touch him and it's a foul. Compare that to when MJ played.

Curry isn't on MJ's level because he hasn't historically dominated his opposition as much as Jordan did. He's on pace, but let the guy win a DPOY award before we start getting too excited and patting ourselves on the back with nothing to show for it.

It always makes me laugh when people like you claim that today's era is soft and you can't touch anyone, like Jordan was taking hard fouls.

Jordan was getting BABIED by the refs on a nightly basis!

Players were SLOPPY back then and only fouled because they were poor defenders and didn't utilize proper positioning, being forced to swipe and hack once they got beat, reminds me of the old guy at the park getting pissed when you cross him and he grabs your shirt before you get by him.

Your stupid ass claims that Curry hasn't dominated his opposition, yet he's the BACK2BACK MVP, and just tied the all time wins record the year after winning the championship, and has a chance to set the new record on Wednesday and contend for another title, you are fvcking ridiculous!

Curry has totally wiped out all of his opposition, hes statistically the best defender at his position too, leading in steals, he wont win DPOY but that doesn't discredit him.

Jordan fanboys are FURIOUS and I love it so much, thank you Steph!

[CuterThanRubio]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJTuDVJrhWA

Kerr shot %515 from distance that season, and you want to act like Curry wouldn't be as effective back then?

Look at those open looks!


He crossed Muresan to the floor!

He pulled up on Shawn Kemp!, what about this vaunted Sonics defense I've been hearing so much about?

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