Why did Kobe only win 1 MVP?

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[Mr. Jabbar]

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[Kobe_6/8]

Steve Nash :confusedshrug:

[warriorfan]

racism

[Keno]

didn't even deserve that one he got either. or one of his finals mvp. 1 finals mvp and a bunch of total stats = kobe's career.

[stalkerforlife]

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[InsanityKills]

He wasn't as good as people thought. Inefficient, chucker who drove teammates away. Also rape.

[Smoke117]

I think you meant to say: why did he even win one MVP? Because it was basically an award given to him for his achievements up to that point...the MVP of the actual league that season was Chris Paul. Kobe should realistically have ZERO MVP's.

[TheMarkMadsen]

According to the haters of Kobe, he played with the MDE so nothing he's ever done counts

but what is very perplexing is that this MDE only has one MVP :eek:

The same "only one mvp" that haters of Kobe like to bring up to use against Kobe

but the MDE only has one MVP, and according to these guys this is a VERY IMPORTANT thing, so why oh why is somebody with only 1 MVP considered to be the MDE among these guys


it doesn't make sense... :eek:

[Shih508]

Kobe should have 0. CP3 got robbed. CP3 did more with less that season while being more efficient

[TheMarkMadsen]

Kobe should have 0. CP3 got robbed. CP3 did more with less that season while being more efficient


Cp3 = 2nd round loss with an all star beside him, 2nd place in the west

77 games with West, 79 games with Chandler, 76 with Peja


Kobe = nba finals with no all stars besides him, 1st place in the west

27 games with Pau, 35 with Bynum

ok then :oldlol: :oldlol:

[Im Still Ballin]

??

[knicksman]

:oldlol: bran stans fuming right now
Sori brah but we hopped on the curry bandwagon first. Bran stans arent welcome here so you guys will be forever punching bags of the forum:oldlol:

[raprap]

He wasn't great enough? :confusedshrug:

[FreezingTsmoove]

David Stern veto on the CP trade

[34-24 Footwork]

According to the haters of Kobe, he played with the MDE so nothing he's ever done counts

but what is very perplexing is that this MDE only has one MVP :eek:

The same "only one mvp" that haters of Kobe like to bring up to use against Kobe

but the MDE only has one MVP, and according to these guys this is a VERY IMPORTANT thing, so why oh why is somebody with only 1 MVP considered to be the MDE among these guys


it doesn't make sense... :eek:


Extremely underrated post. Obviously no one can seriously respond to this.

[Stout]

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[Bankaii]

He only deserved one in 2008.
Every other year he simply didn't deserve it.

[GrapeApe]

Kobe only has 1 because based on the voting criteria he was not deserving of more than 1. He had multiple great seasons but they coincided with better seasons, either from a team standpoint, numbers standpoint, or both.

There's a lot of circumstance involved in winning the MVP. For example, players like Kobe, Shaq, Lebron, Wade, Paul, Garnett, etc... have all had multiple MVP caliber seasons in which they didn't win the award.

[Jacks3]

What's amazing is that's he's 11th all-time in MVP voting despite the fact that he played with Shaq for eight seasons, and then was surrounded by horrible supporting casts for three seasons.

He only had three seasons where he was in his prime and surrounded by a good supporting cast. 08, 09, and 10.

Amazing.

I think the MVP award should go to the best player in the world, so Bryant should have about three.

[Overdrive]

According to the haters of Kobe, he played with the MDE so nothing he's ever done counts

but what is very perplexing is that this MDE only has one MVP :eek:

The same "only one mvp" that haters of Kobe like to bring up to use against Kobe

but the MDE only has one MVP, and according to these guys this is a VERY IMPORTANT thing, so why oh why is somebody with only 1 MVP considered to be the MDE among these guys


it doesn't make sense... :eek:

Pretty sure if the voters had the chance to vote again in hindsight they might give Shaq the '01 and '05 MVP. The problem with Kobe is that his best and imo most MVP worthy seasons happened on a crap team and by that stripped him of any chance to get the award more than once.

[ChrisKreager]

Honestly- W-L record and playoff seeding.

The last time an NBA MVP came from a team that didn't finish with a top 2 seed- Michael Jordan, 1988 (Bulls were #3 seed)

[feyki]

Same as Wade . First Shaq and after pathetic roster until his 29 .

[Gileraracer]

He decided to win rings instead.

[Biggums]

He decided to win rings instead.
:biggums:

[k0kakw0rld]

racism
Commissioner is white

[nevetslc88]

According to the haters of Kobe, he played with the MDE so nothing he's ever done counts

but what is very perplexing is that this MDE only has one MVP :eek:

The same "only one mvp" that haters of Kobe like to bring up to use against Kobe

but the MDE only has one MVP, and according to these guys this is a VERY IMPORTANT thing, so why oh why is somebody with only 1 MVP considered to be the MDE among these guys


it doesn't make sense... :eek:

yep pretty much.

Shaq only has 1.

ever since that happen the MVP award has been shit since.

[jstern]

Can you imagine if Paul would have won that MVP? Kobe would be 0 for 20 right now.

[Showtime2001]

Shaq has only 1 MVP

Fact.

:lol

[bizil]

Peak Kobe played in an era with Shaq, Duncan, KG, and Dirk. In general, I think Shaq was the best player of that era peak wise. From there, KG, Duncan, and Dirk FLAT OUT revolutionized the PF position. Before them, the position NEVER had 7 footers with their respective skillsets. So of course, that's going to result in MVP's for them.

As great as Kobe was, he didn't revolutionize the SG position in such a manner. So between those factors and the Lakers struggling at times, it makes sense that Kobe only won 1 MVP in my opinion. Those years the Lakers were struggling likely cost him multiple MVPs. Was he worthy of more than one MVP? OF COURSE! But at the same time I'm not really shocked by it either.

Plus u had Bron coming down the pike as well during Kobe's prime years (another player who redefined his position in an EPIC MANNER). Kobe WASN'T head and shoulders above his era the way MJ was as well. Mamba was considered the best in the world at times, but the gap wasn't as wide.

[Fire Colangelo]

Shaq has one MVP because he's known for his dominance in the playoffs (especially the finals), can't really say the same for Kobe.

You can make arguments for Shaq in 01 and 05 and they'd be semi strong arguments. It's gonna be hard to make argument for Kobe outside of 08 though.

[Cold soul]

Shaq has one MVP because he's known for his dominance in the playoffs (especially the finals), can't really say the same for Kobe.

You can make arguments for Shaq in 01 and 05 and they'd be semi strong arguments. It's gonna be hard to make argument for Kobe outside of 08 though.


No not really Kobe should won in either 06 and 07 if not both seasons.

[TheMarkMadsen]

Shaq has one MVP because he's known for his dominance in the playoffs (especially the finals)

this doesn't make any sense :oldlol: :oldlol:

so he only has one MVP which is a regular season award because he's known for his playoff performances.. what the **** do the playoffs have to do with the regular season awards voting



It's gonna be hard to make argument for Kobe outside of 08 though.

You said that you can make arguments for Shaq in 01 and 05. Well in 01 Shaq finished 3rd in the MVP race, Kobe has finished top 3 in MVP race 6 times...


and are you seriously trying to say Kobe doesn't have playoff dominance? lmao, Shaq led a team to 3 straight finals, Kobe did the same thing except he didn't have a teammate as good as 00-02 Kobe beside him

Shaq in 01 playoffs = 30ppg, on 56% TS, Shaq at his absolute most dominant was putting up 30.7 ppg on 56% TS for a playoff run

Kobe basically averaged that for 3 straight finals run. (30ppg on 56% TS)

keep setting up the double standards though.

[T_L_P]

No problem with 08 (people forget his won most of his games without Pau), but I don't think he was robbed of any others.

The only ones I'd change since 2000 are:

2001 (should have been Shaq)
2006 (should have been Dirk)
2011 (should have been Howard)

[jstern]

Shaq has one MVP because you can't win MVP playing 60 games per season.