Presit's Legacy: Ruining a Dynasty

[KG215]

He traded Harden and it's been one f**k up after another from there when it comes to trades and FA signings. OKC is a paper tiger in the most obvious way. The Warriors, Spurs, and Cavs are the cream-of-the-crop of the NBA. The Thunder are on next tier with the Clippers, Raptors, and whoever else. We're not a contender and not even close.

[dazzer87]

making the finals once and losing = a dynasty? :roll: :roll: :roll:

[Cocaine80s]

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[KG215]

making the finals once and losing = a dynasty? :roll: :roll: :roll:
At the time, Durant, Westbrook, and Ibaka were 22 and 23 years old.

[TheMarkMadsen]

making the finals once and losing = a dynasty? :roll: :roll: :roll:

yeah seriously.

Until Durant and WB play something other than iso ball/ pick and role every single play they aren't winning shit

[Lebronxrings]

too bad.



Durant to cavs. :banana:

[FKAri]

It's not his fault that Durant plays with less urgency than Vince Carter.

[KG215]

yeah seriously.

Until Durant and WB play something other than iso ball/ pick and role every single play they aren't winning shit
That's on Presti, again. He fired one coach to hire another "buddy" who's a worse coach. He hasn't fixed shit.

[Cocaine80s]

To make things worse, KD is leaving this summer too :roll: :roll:

[TheMarkMadsen]

That's on Presti, again. He fired one coach to hire another "buddy" who's a worse coach. He hasn't fixed shit.


at some point you have to hold the players accountable. They seem content to play the same way they've been playing for years. WB doesn't make his teammates better at the level that he should for how good he is. He's too out of control, KD needs to get the ball in different spots rather than the constant iso/pick and roll from the 3pt line.

this team has no fluidity, they are two superstars playing on the same team, but they don't play together. They don't feed off each other as well as they should.

[KG215]

To make things worse, KD is leaving this summer too :roll: :roll:
Yep. KD can't actually believe this is a viable longterm solution when it comes to playing for a legit contender. Outside of his drafting prowess, Presti is a f***ing joke when it comes to building a contender. Durant's gone after this season and that will be the killshot to the Oklahoma City Thunder franchise. We'll never be this good again after this season when/if Durant leaves after this season.


Westbrook is our best player, now, but losing one of them = end of the Thunder, and since Durant's contract expires first, he'll leave first.

[PJR]

You can't blame Presti, you have to blame Clay Bennett.

Presti had a mandate from management to never dip into the luxury, therefore his hand was forced with the Harden trade.

[EwingMan]

presti doesn't sign the checks--- but he traded harden for nothing. he could've let the thunder have another shot at it-- and then decided who to dump at the end of the year.

it takes a special kind of retard to miss out on harden's value AND neglect to see that the cap was going to rise. and to trade for waiters.

[Young X]

The Warriors have truly mind*cked the rest of the league.

Everybody's panicking.

OKC is 40-16 on pace for 59 wins with arguably 2 of the top 5 players and you have fans acting like it's the end of the world.

Cavs panicking after going 30-11 and firing their coach because of how badly the Warriors bodied them at home.

Clippers 36-19 despite losing a major star player for 25 games and people already talking about breaking them up because they have no hope.

[SwishSquared]

The Warriors have truly mind*cked the rest of the league.

Everybody's panicking.

OKC is 40-16 on pace for 59 wins with arguably 2 of the top 5 players and you have fans acting like it's the end of the world.

Cavs panicking after going 30-11 and firing their coach because of how badly the Warriors bodied them at home.

Clippers 36-19 despite losing a major star player for 25 games and people already talking about breaking them up because they have no hope.The Warriors caused a lot of that anxiety and now people say that if you're not one of ~3 teams with a hope of winning a title then you may as well tank. I think that mindset is growing in popularity, especially since talent isn't spread evenly between teams or even the conferences.

[Lebronxrings]

op, are you going to be okay?

[Marchesk]

Durant has a $10 million reasons to resign for 1 more year with OKC. If he walks after this season, he'll have to settle for $10 mil less per season. So why not wait one season to sign a big contract?

But that Harden trade did turn out to be crap.

[navy]

Kevin Durant should do the Lebron deal and sign 1 year contracts

[JimmyMcAdocious]

OKC was fine post-Harden.

It's that they used that cap space to build around guys like Kanter, Waiters, Perkins, etc. For a team that drafts at a level seemingly better than anyone not named the Spurs (and I guess GS now), they sure can't scout talent in the FA and before their trades.

[DMAVS41]

He traded Harden and it's been one f**k up after another from there when it comes to trades and FA signings. OKC is a paper tiger in the most obvious way. The Warriors, Spurs, and Cavs are the cream-of-the-crop of the NBA. The Thunder are on next tier with the Clippers, Raptors, and whoever else. We're not a contender and not even close.

You are a contender...you have the 4th best team in the league and two top 5 players.

You aren't favorites, but you could get hot and win or someone could get hurt...etc.

Presti did **** things up...every move he's made after the Harden trade has been pretty bad imo and he cost you guys the title whichever year it was when he ran with Butler/Fisher instead of making a move at the deadline with the young guys.

I still don't see why anyone thinks this would have been a dynasty with Harden as he's not the type of player this team is missing, but whatever...we don't have to go down that road again.

So yes...Presti screwed up from the coach to the players, but you have two top 5 players in the league in their primes....it's on the players to make a run at some point as well.

[Dresta]

The Warriors caused a lot of that anxiety and now people say that if you're not one of ~3 teams with a hope of winning a title then you may as well tank. I think that mindset is growing in popularity, especially since talent isn't spread evenly between teams or even the conferences.
It's an annoying mindset because upsets can happen.

I find many basketball fans these days are eternal prisoners of the moment, literally overreacting to everything to the point where they must not even enjoy watching their teams play.

[Heavincent]

They have the same problems as every year. Stagnant iso ball, garbage supporting cast outside of Durant and WB, etc. At least they had a great defense under Scott Brooks...now their defense is middle of the pack. It would be foolish to count them out with WB and Durant, but it's looking like the same song and dance to me.

Kanter deal was asinine too...everyone said it right when it happened. $70 mil for a 20 minute per game big who doesn't play defense and isn't a 3 point shooter :yaohappy:

[sportjames23]

making the finals once and losing = a dynasty? :roll: :roll: :roll:


LOL I was about to say. :oldlol:

[Marchesk]

making the finals once and losing = a dynasty? :roll: :roll: :roll:

Their four best players were 22&23 year olds. They had just backdoor swept the Spurs. It looked like they were on the verge of a dynasty back then.

[DMAVS41]

Their four best players were 22&23 year olds. They had just backdoor swept the Spurs. It looked like they were on the verge of a dynasty back then.

But they were 50/50 against those Spurs teams and slightly worse against the Heat...and not as good as the Warriors.

A dynasty wasn't happening in any real way.

I think, if healthy, they would have won in 13...and then lost every year after.

[SwishSquared]

It's an annoying mindset because upsets can happen.

I find many basketball fans these days are eternal prisoners of the moment, literally overreacting to everything to the point where they must not even enjoy watching their teams play.True- I think if you're a top 5 team you should roll with that group since like you said, you never know what may happen.

OKC has disadvantages in its roster and coaching staff, but they'd have 2 of the 3 best players in a series vs. the Dubs (well, Warriors would have the 4th and 5th best players). They have the offensive firepower i WB and Durant to get it done. And by the time the playoffs roll around, the Thunder may pose a great challenge than the Spurs do (depending on buyouts and such).