Top 5 Individual Playoff Series: Year-by-Year (2000 ->)

[Magic 32]

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[WayOfWade]

This should be a good thread, I'll state the obvious and say all of Shaq's finals deserve to be on this (minus 04')

[Magic 32]

This should be a good thread, I'll state the obvious and say all of Shaq's finals deserve to be on this (minus 04')

Unless someone know more about the 2000 playoffs then I do, I think it is fairly safe to pick Shaq's FMVP as number 1.

[DonDraper]

This should be a good thread, I'll state the obvious and say all of Shaq's finals deserve to be on this (minus 04')

And I'll go out on a limb and say NONE of Kobe's finals will be

[Magic 32]

And I'll go out on a limb and say NONE of Kobe's finals will be

Can't you stay away a couple of days to help the illusion?

[SexSymbol]

2001 Western Conference Semifinals versus Kings: 4 gms, 43.3 mpg, 35.0 ppg, 9.0 rpg, 4.3 apg, 1.25 spg, .473 fg%. Lakers win 4-0.
2001 Western Conference Finals versus Spurs: 4 gms, 42.0 mpg, 33.3 ppg, 7.0 rpg, 7.0 apg, 1.5 spg, .514 fg%. Lakers win 4-0.

Kobe

[DonDraper]

2001 Western Conference Semifinals versus Kings: 4 gms, 43.3 mpg, 35.0 ppg, 9.0 rpg, 4.3 apg, 1.25 spg, .473 fg%. Lakers win 4-0.
2001 Western Conference Finals versus Spurs: 4 gms, 42.0 mpg, 33.3 ppg, 7.0 rpg, 7.0 apg, 1.5 spg, .514 fg%. Lakers win 4-0.

Kobe

Neither were as Good as Shaq's finals

Heck I dont think either of them makes the top 5 for that season tbh, Shaq, Duncan, A.I all had better series

[SexSymbol]

Neither were as Good as Shaq's finals

Heck I dont think either of them makes the top 5 for that season tbh, Shaq, Duncan, A.I all had better series
33-7-7 on 52 percent to sweep the spurs and you say there were 5 better performances than that? c'mon man, don't embarrass yourself.

[Wade's Rings]

'05

Wade ECSF: 31/7/8/1.3/1.5 shooting 54%
Nash WCSF: 30/6/12/1/.3 shooting 55%
Amare WCF: 37/10/1/1/1.6 shooting 55%
Duncan WCF: 27/14/3/.6/1.8 shooting 53%
Allen WCQF: 32/5/5/2/.6 shooting 51%

Honorable Mention

Wade ECQF: 26/6/9/1.8/1 shooting 50%

[masonanddixon]

Wade o5-06 Finals is the most obvious pick

Other than that any of Dirk's 2010-2011 series and his 05-06 series runs

[Wade's Rings]

Wade o5-06 Finals is the most obvious pick

Other than that any of Dirk's 2010-2011 series and his 05-06 series runs

It's year by year.

[masonanddixon]

It's year by year.

Yeah so if it's 2005-2006 the easy and clear pick is Wade's Finals.

If its' 2010-2011 its take a pick of any Dirkules series.

2002-2003 Duncan in the WCSF vs Lakers was off the heezay.

[Wade's Rings]

'01

Shaq Finals: 33/16/4/.4/3.4 shooting 57%
Kobe WCF: 33/7/7/1.5/.8 shooting 51%
Shaq WCSF: 33/17/2/.5/3.3 shooting 60%
Kobe WCSF: 35/9/4/1.3/.5 shooting 47%
Duncan WCSF: 27/17/4/1/2 shooting 51%
Carter ECSF: 30/6/6/1.9/2 shooting 47%
Iverson ECSF: 34/4/7/3.1/.4 shooting 40%
Iverson Finals: 36/6/4/1.8/.2 shooting 41%
McGrady ECQF: 34/6/8/1.8/1.3 shooting 41%

Honorable Mention

Allen ECQF: 24/6/5/2.5/.5 shooting 55%

[Wade's Rings]

Yeah so if it's 2005-2006 the easy and clear pick is Wade's Finals.

If its' 2010-2011 its take a pick of any Dirkules series.

2002-2003 Duncan in the WCSF vs Lakers was off the heezay.

Thought you were talking in totality. My fault.

[Kobe_6/8]

2000
1) Shaq vs Pacers
2) Chris Webber vs Lakers
3) David Robinson vs Suns
4) Karl Malone vs Seattle
5) Reggie Miller vs Lakers
6) Alonzo Mourning vs Knicks

2001
1) Shaq vs 76'ers
2) Kobe vs Spurs
3) Ray Allen vs Magic
4) Vince Carter vs 76'ers
5) Allen Iverson vs Raptors

2002
1) Shaq vs Nets
2) Duncan vs Lakers
3) Pierce vs 76'ers
4) Baron Davis vs Magic
5) T-Mac vs Hornets

2003 (Year of Duncan)
1) Duncan vs Nets
2) Duncan vs Mavs
3) Duncan vs Lakers
4) T-Mac vs Pistons
5) Kidd vs Pistons

[Magic 32]

Made a draft of 2000





2000
Chris Webber vs Lakers (1st round)
24.4/9.6/5.4/2 blocks

David Robinson vs Suns (1st round)
23.5/13.8/2.5/3 blocks

Reggie Miller vs Lakers (Finals)
24.3/2.7/3.7

Alonzo Mourning vs Knicks (2nd round)
23.1/10.6/1.4/2.7 blocks

The fg% really kind of sucks for all 4.

Especially considering that 3 of those are big men.

But Mourning and Webber are in the running.

[Magic 32]

So, who is gonna get the five spot in 2000 ? ...

Reggie Miller vs. Philadelphia 76ers (ECSF)
25.8 ppg, 3.2 apg, 2.4 rpg, 1.0 spg, 51.8 fg% (Won)

Chris Webber vs. Los Angeles Lakers (WCFR)
24.4 ppg, 9.6 rpg, 5.4 apg, 2.0 bpg, 1.6 spg, 42.7 fg% (Lost)

Alonzo Mourning vs. New York Knicks (ECSF)
23.1 ppg, 10.6 rpg, 1,4 apg, 2.7 bpg, 46.7 fg% (Lost)

Shaquille O'Neal vs. Portland Trail Blazers (WCF)
25.9 ppg, 12.4 rpg, 5,4 apg, 2.0 bpg, 53.7 fg% (Won)

Kobe Bryant vs. Sacramento Kings (WCFR)
27.8 ppg, 4.4 rpg, 3,6 apg, 1.2 spg, 49.6 fg% (Won)

[Magic 32]

Here are their series stats in victories...

Reggie Miller vs. Philadelphia 76ers (ECSF)
28.3 ppg, 3.0 apg, 2.5 rpg, 1.0 spg, 52.0 fg% (4 games)

Chris Webber vs. Los Angeles Lakers (WCFR)
26 ppg, 13.5 rpg, 8 apg, 4.0 bpg, 3.0 spg, 46.7 fg% (2 games)

Alonzo Mourning vs. New York Knicks (ECSF)
22.3 ppg, 6.7 rpg, 2.0 bpg, 44.2 fg% (3 games)

Shaquille O'Neal vs. Portland Trail Blazers (WCF)
25.9 ppg, 10.8 rpg, 4.5 apg, 2.8 bpg, 54.4 fg% (4 games)

Kobe Bryant vs. Sacramento Kings (WCFR)
27.5 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 4.0 apg, 51.7 fg% (4 games)

As good as Webber's and Shaq's stats are. I must say I'm leaning towards Reggie.

[Magic 32]

Draft for the 2001 top 5 :oldlol:

Kind of crazy.

[Magic 32]

Video highlights from the 2000 selection added.

[Magic 32]

Video highlights from the 2001 top 5 added.

[T_L_P]

2003 WCF for Duncan should be up there when you add it.

28.0 PPG / 16.7 RPG / 5.8 APG / 3.0 BPG / 57-00-64 for a TS% of .603. AVG GameScore of 27.2 :bowdown:

[ImKobe]

Neither were as Good as Shaq's finals

Heck I dont think either of them makes the top 5 for that season tbh, Shaq, Duncan, A.I all had better series

WHAT lol

Kobe vs Spurs is easily more impressive than anything from AI and Duncan that year

Kobe: 33/7/7 2.8 TOV 121 ORTG 93 DRTG

Duncan doesn't have any series from that year that even has anything CLOSE to that level of production that year

And I'm not even going to speak on AI's efficiency, I don't give a crap about his one hot shooting night in the Finals that yr, he was never consistent in any series despite having some great games, you look at overall production over a course of a series and his efficiency doesn't come close to what Kobe did vs Kings and Spurs, OP lists Shaq's series over Kobe vs Sacramento but you look at road numbers in the last 2 games and Kobe averages almost 20 more points per game, not to mention his Game 4 that was the best individual game for any Laker for the PO run.

Kobe 2001 was better than AI...his winshares was on par with peak Shaq despite his shooting slump in the Finals and he had the better numbers through the WC Playoff run, especially in road games.

[Magic 32]

WHAT lol

Kobe vs Spurs is easily more impressive than anything from AI and Duncan that year

Kobe: 33/7/7 2.8 TOV 121 ORTG 93 DRTG

Duncan doesn't have any series from that year that even has anything CLOSE to that level of production that year

And I'm not even going to speak on AI's efficiency, I don't give a crap about his one hot shooting night in the Finals that yr, he was never consistent in any series despite having some great games, you look at overall production over a course of a series and his efficiency doesn't come close to what Kobe did vs Kings and Spurs, OP lists Shaq's series over Kobe vs Sacramento but you look at road numbers in the last 2 games and Kobe averages almost 20 more points per game, not to mention his Game 4 that was the best individual game for any Laker for the PO run.

Kobe 2001 was better than AI...his winshares was on par with peak Shaq despite his shooting slump in the Finals and he had the better numbers through the WC Playoff run, especially in road games.

I did just add Duncan to the 2001 list (over Shaq's Spurs series).

But I agree with you on AI.

Appalling efficency.

[DMV2]

All these Kobe highlights and he still ain't a Top 10 player. :roll:

[Magic 32]

All these Kobe highlights and he still ain't a Top 10 player. :roll:

What to add something interesting or just be dead weight?

[ImKobe]

I did just add Duncan to the 2001 list (over Shaq's Spurs series).

But I agree with you on AI.

Appalling efficency.

Yeah...AI was much like past-prime Kobe, who put up a lot of points at a ridiculously high volume of shots, but he had one of the best defenses in the league with DPOY Dikembe to fall back on...until he faced LA.

[ImKobe]

2002 should be easy as 1) goes

1) Shaq vs Nets: 36/12/4 2.8 bpg 59.5%FG

HM: Kobe vs Nets: 27/6/5 1.5 spg 51.4%FG 54.5% 3PT

[Magic 32]

2002 should be easy as 1) goes

1) Shaq vs Pacers: 36/12/4 2.8 bpg 59.5%FG

HM: Kobe vs Pacers: 27/6/5 1.5 spg 51.4%FG 54.5% 3PT

Try that one again. :wtf:

[aj1987]

not to mention his Game 4 that was the best individual game for any Laker for the PO run.

44/21/4 with 7 blocks.

[ImKobe]

Try that one again. :wtf:

:confusedshrug:

**** me

[ImKobe]

44/21/4 with 7 blocks.

I'll take the close out game on the road with 48 pts 16 rebs with 151 ORTG 64%TS over 124 ORTG 55%TS

also, Kobe in the 4th 5/8 15 pts, comeback win from behind vs Shaq 4/8 with 1/6 at the line and nearly giving up the game but with Kobe closing it in the end at the line.

[Magic 32]

Right now I'm still ambivalent about two of my rankings...

Duncan's Mavs series vs Kobe's Kings series (potential flip between 4 and 5).

Reggie over some of the HB in 2000.

I still think Miller was superb, effficent and dominant at the right times in that series.

[aj1987]

I'll take the close out game on the road with 48 pts 16 rebs with 151 ORTG 64%TS over 124 ORTG 55%TS

also, Kobe in the 4th 5/8 15 pts, comeback win from behind vs Shaq 4/8 with 1/6 at the line and nearly giving up the game but with Kobe closing it in the end at the line.
Rewriting history already? The Lakers were down 2 and Shaq scored 7 of the 10 Laker points to put them up by 6. After that, he missed ONE FT. Shaq was 3-5 from the FT line in the 4th.

In G1, Shaq scored 13 of the Lakers' first 19 points. Kobe had 0 points, 1 LATE game TOV, and missed his first 2 shots. Would've ended scoreless, if he wasn't fouled by the Kings on purpose. Lets also not forget Shaq's clutch defense, which was game saving and the 9 rebounds, which include 5 offensive rebounds.

[Showtime2001]

All these Kobe highlights and he still ain't a Top 10 player. :roll:
And you are still a retard how bout that?

:applause: :applause: :applause:

[ImKobe]

Rewriting history already? The Lakers were down 2 and Shaq scored 7 of the 10 Laker points to put them up by 6. After that, he missed ONE FT. Shaq was 3-5 from the FT line in the 4th.

In G1, Shaq scored 13 of the Lakers' first 19 points. Kobe had 0 points, 1 LATE game TOV, and missed his first 2 shots. Would've ended scoreless, if he wasn't fouled by the Kings on purpose. Lets also not forget Shaq's clutch defense, which was game saving and the 9 rebounds, which include 5 offensive rebounds.

it was a 4 pt game in the end until Kobe scored the last 4 pts to put the game away while Shaq was on the bench, how is that not closing out the game bro...yes he had a TO bc of a double dribble call but the Lakers were up by 2 scores with less than a minute to play..he made up for it by scoring the last 4 pts anyways..



Yes Shaq played really well in Game 1, probably his best game that year but Kobe's Game 4 was simply more impressive considering it was a road game and he had 16 rebounds as a 6-6 guard and more points on much higher efficiency than Shaq in Game 1, who is a big man and who relies more on his teammates to get the ball in the right spots than anyone else on the field...

I'm not taking anything away from Shaq's performance, my point was that Kobe had the better performance based on the fact that he closed the series out on the road with a more efficient scoring game with a better 4th quarter than Shaq in his Game 1, you can nit pick and say that Kobe had a TO with a 2 score game in the last minute of the game that he closed out with 4 pts after the TO.. Shaq even got pulled out because he's a liability in such situations

Doesn't matter to me anyways, Shaq himself said Kobe was the best player in the world in 2001...

[aj1987]

it was a 4 pt game in the end until Kobe scored the last 4 pts to put the game away while Shaq was on the bench, how is that not closing out the game bro...yes he had a TO bc of a double dribble call but the Lakers were up by 2 scores with less than a minute to play..he made up for it by scoring the last 4 pts anyways..
Dude, Kobe was INTENTIONALLY fouled to get the ball back. If it wasn't Kobe, it would've been Fisher.



Yes Shaq played really well in Game 1, probably his best game that year but Kobe's Game 4 was simply more impressive considering it was a road game and he had 16 rebounds as a 6-6 guard and more points on much higher efficiency than Shaq in Game 1, who is a big man and who relies more on his teammates to get the ball in the right spots than anyone else on the field...

I'm not taking anything away from Shaq's performance, my point was that Kobe had the better performance based on the fact that he closed the series out on the road with a more efficient scoring game with a better 4th quarter than Shaq in his Game 1, you can nit pick and say that Kobe had a TO with a 2 score game in the last minute of the game that he closed out with 4 pts after the TO.. Shaq even got pulled out because he's a liability in such situations

Doesn't matter to me anyways, Shaq himself said Kobe was the best player in the world in 2001...

Dude Shaq was basically better than Kobe in both 4th Q's. Did you even read my earlier post?

The Lakers were down 2 and Shaq scored 7 of the 10 Laker points to put them up by 6. After that, he missed ONE FT. Shaq was 3-5 from the FT line in the 4th.

In G1, Shaq scored 13 of the Lakers' first 19 points. Kobe had 0 points, 1 LATE game TOV, and missed his first 2 shots. Would've ended scoreless, if he wasn't fouled by the Kings on purpose. Lets also not forget Shaq's clutch defense, which was game saving and the 9 rebounds, which include 5 offensive rebounds.

You bring up about how Kobe was good in the 4th Q of game 4, but Shaq was amazing in both 4th Q's. Shaq was only -4 in points and -7% in TS, but was +5 in rebounds, +1 in assists, and +7 in blocks.

[Magic 32]

Honorable Mentions with video highlights added to 2001.

Lots of good stuff from 2001 did not make the cut (top 5 or HB).

Jamal Mashburn vs. Bucks 25.4 ppg, 6.3 rpg, 6.1 apg, 1.1 spg, 39.2 FG%
Kobe Bryant vs. Blazers 25.0 ppg, 7.7 apg, 4.3 rpg, 2.3 spg, 48.1 FG%
Allen Iverson vs. Pacers 31.5 ppg, 6.5 apg, 4.0 rpg, 2.0 spg, 41.0 FG%
Allen Iverson vs. Lakers 35.6 ppg, 5.6 rpg, 3.8 apg, 1.8 spg, 40.7 FG%
Karl Malone vs. Mavs 27.6 ppg, 8.8 rpg, 3.4 apg, 1.0 spg, 40.5 FG%
Reggie Miller vs. 76'ers 31.3 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 2.5 apg, 45.6 FG%
Ray Allen vs. Magic 24.5 ppg, 5.8 rpg, 5.3 apg, 2.5 spg, 55.0 FG%
Ray Allen vs. 76'ers 27.1 ppg, 5.4 apg, 3.3 rpg, 46.8 FG%
Tim Duncan vs. Lakers 23.0 ppg, 12.3 rpg, 4.3 apg, 4.3 bpg, 1.3 spg, 47.8 FG%
Chris Webber vs. Lakers 26.3 ppg, 12.8 rpg, 3.8 apg, 42.0 FG%

[ArbitraryWater]

I'll take the close out game on the road with 48 pts 16 rebs with 151 ORTG 64%TS over 124 ORTG 55%TS

also, Kobe in the 4th 5/8 15 pts, comeback win from behind vs Shaq 4/8 with 1/6 at the line and nearly giving up the game but with Kobe closing it in the end at the line.

Shaq did the work while the series was still undecided :facepalm

But sure, go with the game from a margin that has never been come back from in NBA history..

Kobetards, completely unbiased :applause:

[Magic 32]

Not gonna start 2002 until tomorrow. Harder than I thought :eek:

[SexSymbol]

'01

Shaq Finals: 33/16/4/.4/3.4 shooting 57%
Kobe WCF: 33/7/7/1.5/.8 shooting 51%
Shaq WCSF: 33/17/2/.5/3.3 shooting 60%
Kobe WCSF: 35/9/4/1.3/.5 shooting 47%
Duncan WCSF: 27/17/4/1/2 shooting 51%
Carter ECSF: 30/6/6/1.9/2 shooting 47%
Iverson ECSF: 34/4/7/3.1/.4 shooting 40%
Iverson Finals: 36/6/4/1.8/.2 shooting 41%
McGrady ECQF: 34/6/8/1.8/1.3 shooting 41%

Honorable Mention

Allen ECQF: 24/6/5/2.5/.5 shooting 55%
that's not his best performance that year.

[Magic 32]

that's not his best performance that year.

Sure is.

vs 76'ers
27.1 ppg, 5.4 apg, 3.3 rpg, 46.8 FG%

vs Magic
24.5 ppg, 5.3 apg, 5.8 rpg, 55.0 FG%

More rebounds, same assists, MUCH better shooting.

2.6 ppg is not enough to tip the scale.


None of them would make to the list.

[Hey Yo]

If you're going to count the Finals, then you need to change the thread title.

Playoffs = first 3 rounds.

Finals = what it is.....the Finals

Postseason = all games/series played after the reg. season is over until a champion is crowned.

[Magic 32]

If you're going to count the Finals, then you need to change the thread title.

Playoffs = first 3 rounds.

Finals = what it is.....the Finals

Postseason = all games/series played after the reg. season is over until a champion is crowned.

If it's good enough for basketball-reference.com, it's good enough for ISH.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/NBA_2002.html

[Hey Yo]

If it's good enough for basketball-reference.com, it's good enough for ISH.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/NBA_2002.html
Yeah...I know b-ref says the same thing but just not sure why they do.

[sd3035]

If you're going to count the Finals, then you need to change the thread title.

Playoffs = first 3 rounds.

Finals = what it is.....the Finals

Postseason = all games/series played after the reg. season is over until a champion is crowned.


Playoffs include the finals you retard

[Magic 32]

A draft for 2002 is up.

Could change.

[tontoz]

The best playoff series I ever saw from anyone was before 2000, Hakeem vs Drob in 95. Drob won the MVP that year and Hakeem just destroyed him in the playoffs.

[lilandywiggins]

Neither were as Good as Shaq's finals

Heck I dont think either of them makes the top 5 for that season tbh, Shaq, Duncan, A.I all had better series
Agreed.

[Optimus Prime]

[CENTER]
http://s17.postimg.org/6zb5glgvj/Untitled_1.jpg

Top 5:

1. Shaquille O'Neal vs. Philadelphia 76ers (NBA Finals) - 33.0 ppg, 15.8 rpg, 4.8 apg, 3.4 bpg, 57.3 FG% (Won in 5 games). Game 2 Highlights: link (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzP2lUeIMC8)
2. Shaquille O'Neal vs. Sacramento Kings (WCSF) - 33.3 ppg, 17.3 rpg, 3.3 bpg, 2.3 apg, 59.8 FG% (Won in 4 games). Game 1 Highlights: link (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kW-4VSxCxFA)
3. Kobe Bryant vs. San Antonio Spurs (WCF) - 33.3 ppg, 7.0 apg, 7.0 rpg, 1.5 spg, 51.4 FG% (Won in 4 games). Series Highlights: link (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9d5-tLfJj4)
4. Kobe Bryant vs. Sacramento Kings (WCSF) - 35.0 ppg, 9.0 rpg, 4.3 apg, 1.3 spg, 47.3 FG% (Won in 4 games). Game 4 Highlights: link (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7QZaZJu2yM)
5. Tim Duncan vs. Dallas Mavericks (WCSF) - 27.0 ppg, 17.4 rpg, 3.6 apg, 2.0 bpg, 1.0 spg, 51.0 FG% (Won in 5 games). Game 5 Highlights: link (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WEAEzfN0kA)


:bowdown:

That Lakers run was incredible. It took an insane performance by AI and overtime to keep that Lakers team from running the table in the playoffs. Amazing stuff.

:bowdown:
:kobe:

[sd3035]

:bowdown:

That Lakers run was incredible. It took an insane performance by AI and overtime to keep that Lakers team from running the table in the playoffs. Amazing stuff.

:bowdown:
:kobe:

That team would smoke Jordan's Bulls

[Magic 32]

2002 is done (and I'm done for today.

2002 was absolutely brutal.

These didn't even make the honorable mentions...

Kobe Bryant vs. New Jersey Nets (NBA Finals) 26.8 ppg, 5.8 rpg, 5.3 apg, 1.5 spg, 51.4 FG%
Kobe Bryant vs. Sacramento Kings (WCF) 27.1 ppg, 6.3 rpg, 3.9 apg, 1.4 spg, 1.1 bpg 41.9 FG%
Kobe Bryant vs. San Antonio Spurs (WCSF) 26.2 ppg, 5.4 rpg, 4.8 apg, 1.0 spg, 45.5 FG%
Dirk Nowitzki vs. Sacramento Kings (WCSF) 25.4 ppg, 11.6 rpg, 3.2 apg, 1.4 spg, 40.2 FG%
Baron Davis vs. Orlando Magic (ECQF) 25.0 ppg, 9.3 apg, 9.0 rpg, 2.8 spg, 40.2 FG%
Gary Payton vs. San Antonio Spurs (WCQF) 22.2 ppg, 8.6 rpg, 5.8 apg, 42.5 FG%
Rasheed Wallace vs. Los Angeles Lakers (WCQF) 25.4 ppg, 12.3 rpg, 1.7 apg, 40.6 FG%
Paul Pierce vs. Philadelphia 76ers (ECQF) 30.2 ppg, 8.6 rpg, 4.2 apg, 1.8 spg, 44.8 FG%
Allen Iverson vs. Boston Celtics (ECQF) 30.0 ppg, 4.2 apg, 3.6 rpg, 2.6 spg, 38.1 FG%
Antoine Walker vs Philadelphia 76ers (ECQF) 24.4 ppg, 8.0 rpg, 3.6 apg, 1.8 spg, 43.9 FG%

[Optimus Prime]

That team would smoke Jordan's Bulls

I don't know about that. Jordan is Jordan. I think Pippen would disrupt Kobe. But the Bulls would have absolutely no answer for Shaq. Luc Longley? Bill Wennington? Shaq would average 40+ a game. :roll:

I believe it would be extremely close, but I always give the edge to Jordan.

:kobe:

[Magic 32]

Just a little recap of 2000-2002 (30 series) and the players mentioned...

Shaq - 11 series
Duncan - 3 series
Kobe - 3 series
Webber - 3 series
McGrady - 2 series
Malone - 1 series
Iverson - 1 series
Miller - 1 series
Dirk - 1 series
Mourning - 1 series
Payton - 1 series
Carter - 1 series
Garnett - 1 series

[feyki]

Solid thread :rockon: .

[ArbitraryWater]

If you're going to count the Finals, then you need to change the thread title.

Playoffs = first 3 rounds.

Finals = what it is.....the Finals

Postseason = all games/series played after the reg. season is over until a champion is crowned.

are you serious? :facepalm

Why do people always go out of their way trying to be unecessarily difficult...

and not even right.

[ArbitraryWater]

I haven't checked like all players, but from the OP itself, you have to put Shaq above Reggie in 2000. Duncan getting the nod for their series in 2001 is unfair too I believe. He kinda padded at the end of game 2 which in a 4 game series quickly can change like a whole point or so.

I'm guessing you're not done on 2002 yet, which is why Duncan v.s. LA is up so high again? Surprised to not see Kobe there... he has 2 series' here to be included.

Sometimes you leave a line between series', other times you dont.. please change that, unless its meant to show like a difference in levels or something.

[SsKSpurs21]

2003 (Year of Duncan)
1) Duncan vs Nets
2) Duncan vs Mavs
3) Duncan vs Lakers
4) T-Mac vs Pistons
5) Kidd vs Pistons

http://www.sigauctions.com/ItemImages/000001/10332_lg.jpeg

[Magic 32]

I haven't checked like all players, but from the OP itself, you have to put Shaq above Reggie in 2000.

It may be controversial, but I think Reggie had the better series (and the best of any player in the east).

Reggie's stats in the four victories
28.3 ppg, 3.0 apg, 2.5 rpg, 1.0 spg, 52.0 fg% (4 games)

And for Reggie there was none of the unevenness of Shaq's series (which ended with two duds).

I think you can argue for both.


Duncan getting the nod for their series in 2001 is unfair too I believe. He kinda padded at the end of game 2 which in a 4 game series quickly can change like a whole point or so.


5 game series. Against the Mavs. Hello!

And game 2 was only the third best game by Duncan in that series.



I'm guessing you're not done on 2002 yet, which is why Duncan v.s. LA is up so high again? Surprised to not see Kobe there... he has 2 series' here to be included.

42.5% shooting is not great, but 29.0 ppg, 17.2 rpg, 4.6 apg, 3.2 bpg, 1.0 spg is outrageous numbers.

Kobe was clutch against the Spurs and Nets, but statistically there is no case for top 5 or top 10.



Sometimes you leave a line between series', other times you dont.. please change that, unless its meant to show like a difference in levels or something.

I don't know if you have a 4:3 screen, but on my there are no lines between anything.

[Wade's Rings]

Sure is.

vs 76'ers
27.1 ppg, 5.4 apg, 3.3 rpg, 46.8 FG%

vs Magic
24.5 ppg, 5.3 apg, 5.8 rpg, 55.0 FG%

More rebounds, same assists, MUCH better shooting.

2.6 ppg is not enough to tip the scale.


None of them would make to the list.

Shot 55% from the field, 57% from 3, and 96% from the Free Throw line

:bowdown: :bowdown:

[72-10]

Yeah, the gap between Shaq and the rest is pretty huge all things considered.

A little surprised to not see Iverson against the Raptors make it into the top five, even though he was inefficient outside of the two 50 point games.

[Magic 32]

Yeah, the gap between Shaq and the rest is pretty huge all things considered.

A little surprised to not see Iverson against the Raptors make it into the top five, even though he was inefficient outside of the two 50 point games.

The top 5 is pretty good you know.

[ArbitraryWater]

oops, I thought it was the WCF (Duncan's '01 series)...

how are you actually against Kobe's inlusion in 2002? Thats crazy, not bad, would have thought you'd be all for him here.

I don't like this 'stats in wins' thing much, though... stats in losses should be equally important, sometimes they reflect why that game was a loss and not a win.

for the lines: I just realized there is never a line, it just looks like it cause there is a link for highlights in the middle.


2000
1) Shaq vs Pacers
2) Chris Webber vs Lakers
3) David Robinson vs Suns
4) Karl Malone vs Seattle
5) Reggie Miller vs Lakers
6) Alonzo Mourning vs Knicks

2001
1) Shaq vs 76'ers
2) Kobe vs Spurs
3) Ray Allen vs Magic
4) Vince Carter vs 76'ers
5) Allen Iverson vs Raptors

2003 (Year of Duncan)
1) Duncan vs Nets
2) Duncan vs Mavs
3) Duncan vs Lakers
4) T-Mac vs Pistons
5) Kidd vs Pistons

2000 and 2001 Shaq only get one series each but 2003 Duncan has the TOP THREE?! This is terrible.

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2003 is dominated by Duncan, other series' would be:

Dirk WC1R v.s. Blazers: 30/9/2 on 52% (7-game win)
Shaq WC1R v.s. Timberwolves: 29/15/4 on 52%
Shaq WCQF v.s. Spurs: 25/14/4 on 56%


This should be a good thread, I'll state the obvious and say all of Shaq's finals deserve to be on this (minus 04')

you mean '06 right?

[Magic 32]

how are you actually against Kobe's inlusion in 2002? Thats crazy

He was great. But those other 10 series were better overall.

2002 was all about the big men. Only T-Mac's crazy series made the cut.




I don't like this 'stats in wins' thing much, though... stats in losses should be equally important, sometimes they reflect why that game was a loss and not a win.

I'm saying he got the job done in a big bad way.

Shaq almost blew the series with 2 clunkers in game 6 and 7.

[Magic 32]

Draft for the 2003 Top 5 is up.

Two of these HB's needs to be cut...

Shaquille O'Neal vs. San Antonio Spurs 25.3 ppg, 14.3 rpg, 3.7 apg, 2.8 bpg, 55.9 FG%
Dirk Nowitzki vs. Portland Trail Blazers 29.9 ppg, 8.9 rpg, 1.6 apg, 1.6 bpg, 52.1 FG%
Jermaine O'Neal vs. Boston Celtics 22.8 ppg, 17.5 rpg, 3.0 bpg, 46.7 FG%
Kobe Bryant vs. Minnesota Timberwolves 31.8 ppg, 6.7 apg, 5.2 rpg,1.3 spg, 43.0 FG%
Allen Iverson vs. Charlotte Hornets 34..8 ppg, 5.7 apg, 4.3 rpg, 2.3 spg, 44.4 FG%
Tracy McGrady vs. Detroit Pistons 31.7 ppg, 6.7 rpg, 4.7 apg, 2.0 spg, 44.8 FG%
Paul Pierce vs. New Jersey Nets 29.0 ppg, 8.8 rpg, 7.8 apg, 2.5 spg, 1.0 bpg, 41.3 FG%

[Mr Feeny]

Draft for the 2003 Top 5 is up.

Two of these HB's needs to be cut...

Shaquille O'Neal vs. San Antonio Spurs 25.3 ppg, 14.3 rpg, 3.7 apg, 2.8 bpg, 55.9 FG%
Dirk Nowitzki vs. Portland Trail Blazers 29.9 ppg, 8.9 rpg, 1.6 apg, 1.6 bpg, 52.1 FG%
Jermaine O'Neal vs. Boston Celtics 22.8 ppg, 17.5 rpg, 3.0 bpg, 46.7 FG%
Kobe Bryant vs. Minnesota Timberwolves 31.8 ppg, 6.7 apg, 5.2 rpg,1.3 spg, 43.0 FG%
Allen Iverson vs. Charlotte Hornets 34..8 ppg, 5.7 apg, 4.3 rpg, 2.3 spg, 44.4 FG%
Tracy McGrady vs. Detroit Pistons 31.7 ppg, 6.7 rpg, 4.7 apg, 2.0 spg, 44.8 FG%
Paul Pierce vs. New Jersey Nets 29.0 ppg, 8.8 rpg, 7.8 apg, 2.5 spg, 1.0 bpg, 41.3 FG%

Kobe and Pierce seem like they aren't par with the rest. While Pierce's all around numbers are better than Kobe's, his shooting percentage is even worse.
That Iverson and mcgrady series aren't that great either.
Surely this isn't the best that 2003 had to offer?

[Magic 32]

Kobe and Pierce seem like they aren't par with the rest. While Pierce's all around numbers are better than Kobe's, his shooting percentage is even worse.
That Iverson and mcgrady series aren't that great either.
Surely this isn't the best that 2003 had to offer?

It's honorable mentions.

The Top 5 is already up.

[Magic 32]

2003 is done.

The Truth and Jermaine O'Neal got cut.

2004 up next.

[eklip]

You should use TS% not FG% and include turnovers. It would help a lot.

If you use FG%, you also have to use FGA, FTA (and 3PA, FT% and 3P%), otherwise it's impossible to tell how efficient the player really was.

[Magic 32]

You should use TS% not FG% and include turnovers. It would help a lot.

If you use FG%, you also have to use FGA, FTA (and 3PA, FT% and 3P%), otherwise it's impossible to tell how efficient the player really was.

That would just create a chaotic overload of numbers on the list.

And anybody can look this up and present an argument against my rankings.

I have considered those numbers.

[ArbitraryWater]

That would just create a chaotic overload of numbers on the list.

And anybody can look this up and present an argument against my rankings.

I have considered those numbers.

good point

but I don't think Kobe vs Minny should be an HM, although it might simply be to the fact that there weren't many GREAT series', here.

Not sure if HM's are in order but T-Mac >>

[Magic 32]

good point

but I don't think Kobe vs Minny should be an HM, although it might simply be to the fact that there weren't many GREAT series', here.

Not sure if HM's are in order but T-Mac >>

The only other series that could be considered over Kobe and T-mac were PP against the Nets and JO against the Celtics.

But Pierce was swept and shot 41.5% and Jermaine O'Neal never really did anything amazing.

T-Mac put up near historic numbers in the first half of the series and Kobe got better and better and finally won the series (31.5 ppg, 6.5 apg, 5 rpg, 55.3 fg% in the last two games).

[Magic 32]

Here is the first draft of the 2004 list.

Kind of difficult year...

Top 5

1. Kevin Garnett vs. Denver Nuggets 25.8 ppg, 14.8 rpg, 7.0 apg, 2.0 bpg, 1.0 spg, 45.4 FG%
2. Tim Duncan vs. Memphis Grizzlies 24.3 ppg, 10.0 rpg, 3.0 apg, 2.5 bpg, 58.8 FG%
3. Kevin Garnett vs. Sacramento Kings 23.9 ppg, 15.4 rpg, 4.3 apg, 3.4 bpg, 1.7 spg, 44.0 FG%
4. Kenyon Martin vs. New York Knicks 23.3 ppg, 14.0 rpg, 1.8 apg, 1.8 spg, 1.3 bpg, 64.4 FG%
5. Shaquille O'Neal vs. San Antonio Spurs 22.5 ppg, 14.5 rpg, 2.0 apg, 4.3 bpg, 63.5 FG%

HB.

Shaquille O'Neal vs. Detroit Pistons 26.6 ppg, 10.8 rpg, 1.6 apg, 63.1 FG%
Shaquille O'Neal vs. Minnesota Timberwolves 20.7 ppg, 15.7 rpg, 3.0 bpg, 2.8 bpg, 56.9 FG%
Kevin Garnett vs. Los Angeles Lakers 23.7 ppg, 13.5 rpg, 4.5 apg, 1.2 bpg, 1.2 spg, 46.3 FG%
Dirk Nowitzki vs. Sacramento Kings 26.6 ppg, 11.8 rpg, 2.6 bpg, 1.4 bpg, 1.4 spg, 45.0 FG%
Kobe Bryant vs San Antonio Spurs 26.3 ppg, 6.3 rpg, 5.8 apg, 1.7 spg, 46.2 FG%

[Magic 32]

Going though these first 4 years of the 00's, the most stricking thing is the appalling inefficency of the eastern conference stars.

Iverson, Kidd and Pierce especially.

[ArbitraryWater]

Going though these first 4 years of the 00's, the most stricking thing is the appalling inefficency of the eastern conference stars.

Iverson, Kidd and Pierce especially.

just not alot of talent around those parts, tbh.. for being a conference's best players for half a decade, I mean.

2004 looks the weakest so far.

Ginobili should be involved pretty nicely in '05, I bet.

[Magic 32]

2004 is done (I think).

Kevin Garnett shines in a pretty weak year.

Not 100% about the ranking if anyone wants to dispute.

PS. No more room in the original post. Should I continue in another thread?

[Magic 32]

Just a little recap of 2000-2004 (50 series) and the players mentioned multiple times...

Shaq - 16 series
Duncan - 7 series
Kobe - 5 series
Garnett - 5 series
Webber - 3 series
Nowitzki - 3 series
McGrady - 3 series
Iverson - 2 series

Works as a pretty neat ranking me thinks?

[Wade's Rings]

2004 is done (I think).

Kevin Garnett shines in a pretty weak year.

Not 100% about the ranking if anyone wants to dispute.

PS. No more room in the original post. Should I continue in another thread?

Yes make another thread for 2005-2009, will need another for 2010-2014, and the last couple years.

[Wade's Rings]

Just a little recap of 2000-2004 (50 series) and the players mentioned multiple times...

Shaq - 16 series
Duncan - 7 series
Kobe - 5 series
Garnett - 5 series
Webber - 3 series
Nowitzki - 3 series
McGrady - 3 series
Iverson - 2 series

Works as a pretty neat ranking me thinks?

Seems right to me.

[Magic 32]

I think I might start a new thread and add 1999

This should really be about the post Jordan era.

And just make it top 10 for every year instead.

[Magic 32]

Yes make another thread for 2005-2009, will need another for 2010-2014, and the last couple years.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=397988

[MoBe1Kanobi]

Just a little recap of 2000-2004 (50 series) and the players mentioned multiple times...

Shaq - 16 series
Duncan - 7 series
Kobe - 5 series
Garnett - 5 series
Webber - 3 series
Nowitzki - 3 series
McGrady - 3 series
Iverson - 2 series

Works as a pretty neat ranking me thinks?


And the 5 series Kobe beasted on felt like 10-12 duncan beastmode series instead of the 7 that he balled out on