young and agile Dirk Nowitzki

[pastis]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NSHXSBjZXo

[Dr Hawk]

:applause:

He is in my Top 15 for sure

[MP.Trey]

You mean Kristaps Porzingis?

[pastis]

:applause:

He is in my Top 15 for sure

:applause: :applause: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[ArbitraryWater]

Top 15 :bowdown:

[feyki]

2002-2007. Dirk >>>> 2008-2012 Dirk

[ArbitraryWater]

2002-2007. Dirk >>>> 2008-2012 Dirk

very weird opinion..very funny.. never heard this before

[Segatti]

He is the reason I jumped on the Dallas bandwagon back in 2007. No regrets. :bowdown:

[Fallen Angel]

what kind of shit is this

https://i.gyazo.com/9b4153dfe3fffd0e0922b6afa8e7d944.png

[Gileraracer]

This tschermen dude is sickkk!!!:eek:

[pastis]

This tschermen dude is sickkk!!!:eek:


people just forget how agile he was back then.

Dirk, our blonde warrior:bowdown: :bowdown:

[masonanddixon]

It's crazy. I was 16 when the dood entered the NBA.

[kennethgriffin]

agile?


the guys probly on his way to top 20 all time or better... but.... agile?

:biggums:

[JohnFreeman]

Can't believe Dirk and Pierce were picked so late

[Dr Hawk]

agile?


the guys probly on his way to top 20 all time or better... but.... agile?

:biggums:

Yes, he was very agile for a 7'.

Top 15

[fandarko]

The ultimate offensive weapon... No stopping.

Reminds me of Durant, a tad slower, with better post moves.

Top 20.

[fandarko]

You mean Kristaps Porzingis?

Porzingis will never be the attackers Dirk is and was.

If he can provide athletic and aggressive D and rebounding with 20 ppg offense, he might try to accede at the same level. IF.

[masonanddixon]

Porzingis will never be the attackers Dirk is and was.

If he can provide athletic and aggressive D and rebounding with 20 ppg offense, he might try to accede at the same level. IF.

Porzingis is already good as hell, almost at an all star level, and hes only 19. I don't think he can hold up as a 7'3'' guy but if he can he could maybe reach Dirkules' level.

[JohnFreeman]

This is honestly one of the best playoff games by any player
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kM9MYvoQn8M

http://cdn0.sbnation.com/imported_assets/1739909/303769117.gif

[FrobeShaw]

Porzingis will never be the attackers Dirk is and was.

If he can provide athletic and aggressive D and rebounding with 20 ppg offense, he might try to accede at the same level. IF.
too early to say

[bobopenguin]

if he's in this years draft, he still wont make the no.1 pick.

Andrea Bargnani screwed up the white power race.

[Clifton]

the guys probly on his way to top 20 all time or better... but.... agile?
I don't know if I can think of a a 7 footer who was quicker and more fluid with the ball in his hands.

People usually throw KG into that conversation, but he's more of an obvious athlete (high vertical, etc) whereas Dirk always worked totally on the horizontal plane. Who's more athletic though, prime JR Smith or Pierce? If you say Smith, why? Who was better at getting to the basket? Smith could jump higher once he got there, but he hardly ever got there. His brand of athleticism didn't serve him as well on the court. KG for all his talent, didn't get into the paint or to the line nearly as often as Dirk 2008-2012.

He's a big piece of corrugated cardboard on defense, but somehow his offensive talent was unreal. Still is, actually; he's still making some iso drives even at his advanced age.

[kennethgriffin]

Yes, he was very agile for a 7'.

Top 15



i cant see a case for dirk over

- Kareem
- Jordan
- Russell
- Kobe
- Duncan
- Magic
- Bird
- Shaq
- Hakeem
- Wilt
- Lebron
- Oscar
- West
- Moses
- Dr J
- Pettit
- Mikan


so dirks around arguably top 20 or so

[Dr Hawk]

i cant see a case for dirk over

- Kareem
- Jordan
- Russell
- Kobe
- Duncan
- Magic
- Bird
- Shaq
- Hakeem
- Wilt
- Lebron
- Oscar
- West
- Moses
- Dr J
- Pettit
- Mikan


so dirks around arguably top 20 or so

I don't know about Mikan or Pettit.

Also, I don't know how to rate Ervng's ABA years

Also, I have Russell out of my Top 15. I know it is highly unpopular but I don't think he was a better basketball player than Dirk.

[DMAVS41]

I don't know if I can think of a a 7 footer who was quicker and more fluid with the ball in his hands.

People usually throw KG into that conversation, but he's more of an obvious athlete (high vertical, etc) whereas Dirk always worked totally on the horizontal plane. Who's more athletic though, prime JR Smith or Pierce? If you say Smith, why? Who was better at getting to the basket? Smith could jump higher once he got there, but he hardly ever got there. His brand of athleticism didn't serve him as well on the court. KG for all his talent, didn't get into the paint or to the line nearly as often as Dirk 2008-2012.

He's a big piece of corrugated cardboard on defense, but somehow his offensive talent was unreal. Still is, actually; he's still making some iso drives even at his advanced age.

You can always tell if someone watched Dirk in his younger days. Because they refer to Dirk as "just a shooter"...and it's so ignorant

A common play would be Dirk catching the ball on the wing 18 feet from the basket...facing up in triple threat...and just blowing by guys to the rim or taking a pull up...or driving and taking a step back...etc.

He had such bounce and spring to his step...and had a great triple threat game and handle for his size to go with it

[DMAVS41]

i cant see a case for dirk over

- Kareem
- Jordan
- Russell
- Kobe
- Duncan
- Magic
- Bird
- Shaq
- Hakeem
- Wilt
- Lebron
- Oscar
- West
- Moses
- Dr J
- Pettit
- Mikan


so dirks around arguably top 20 or so

I think that is fair....especially if we are ranking careers.

[SCdac]

http://cdn0.sbnation.com/imported_assets/1739909/303769117.gif

shame he couldn't do that to Stephen Jackson his MVP year :lol

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y147/adrumaddict/dirkguardedbycaptainjack.jpg

[pastis]

i cant see a case for dirk over

- Kareem
- Jordan
- Russell
- Kobe
- Duncan
- Magic
- Bird
- Shaq
- Hakeem
- Wilt
- Lebron
- Oscar
- West
- Moses
- Dr J
- Pettit
- Mikan





he can at least be argued over the bolded ones

[MP.Trey]

Porzingis will never be the attackers Dirk is and was.

If he can provide athletic and aggressive D and rebounding with 20 ppg offense, he might try to accede at the same level. IF.
Well he already provides athletic and aggressive D and rebounding. 2 blocks per game, 8 boards in only 27 minutes and if you watch him, he rarely shys away from contact. He's scoring 13 points on decent percentages but he's being asked to create a lot on this Knicks team.

I believe he has all the potential in the world to end up being a skinnier Dirk who goes to 10+ all star games and is MVP worthy at his peak barring injury.

[Dragonyeuw]

i cant see a case for dirk over

- Kareem
- Jordan
- Russell
- Kobe
- Duncan
- Magic
- Bird
- Shaq
- Hakeem
- Wilt
- Lebron
- Oscar
- West
- Moses
- Dr J
- Pettit
- Mikan


so dirks around arguably top 20 or so


I think realistically, he has no case careerwise over those guys. After that, the picture becomes a little fuzzier. I think 11-20 is much more difficult to pick than a clear cut top 10.

[DMAVS41]

How you know you are an elite player.

You average 22/12/2 54% TS...119 ortg... while a team plays in front and behind...and doubles on the catch frequently....and everyone is asking "what's wrong with him"?

[AirFederer]

Top 10. :bowdown:

Not many guys I`d pick over him (obviously)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrQzRBcrCts :lol

[PP34Deuce]

2002-2007. Dirk >>>> 2008-2012 Dirk


That's tough. I believe 2002-2007 Dirk was a much better athlete with sick one on one skills but was very weak minded.

2008-2012 Dirk, experienced a humiliating loss to MIA and ventured out to prove to everyone he wasn't as soft as perceived.

Dirk of 2008-2012 was a better willing defender who hit big shots and big shots.

A horrible team like the sixers would benefit from a 2002-2007 Dirk.
A decent team like the Suns would benefit from 2008-2012.

[feyki]

PP34 ;
Dirk was playin in run n gun system , he was hustling against tough centers , he was the main rebounder of Mavs . I love him as a 2002-2007 Dirk .

And He had better defending in his younger than after 2008 .

After 2008 , No more hustling, no more rebounding , no more running and no more defending .

Yes , he had better shooting,post skills and he was more clutch than his younger after 2008 . But that was less all around effect and impact to the game . I didn't like that .

[ArbitraryWater]

PP34 ;
Dirk was playin in run n gun system , he was hustling against tough centers , he was the main rebounder of Mavs . I love him as a 2002-2007 Dirk .

And He had better defending in his young than after 2008 .

After 2008 , No more hustling, no more rebounding , no more running and no more defending .

Yes , he had better shooting,post skills and he was more clutch than his young in after 2008 . But that was less all around effect and impact to the game . I didn't like that .

no he didnt :oldlol:

And you just said he played in a higher paced system and you're surprised his rebounding went down? Plus, its normal for it to go down regardless.

[feyki]

no he didnt :oldlol:

And you just said he played in a higher paced system and you're surprised his rebounding went down? Plus, its normal for it to go down regardless.

2002-2007 Dirk has 102 Drtg and %14 TRB % .

2008-2012 Dirk has 105 Drtg and %12.4 TRB % .

(At season)

Dirk had %15.2 TRB before 2007 , %13.4 After 2007 in Playoffs .

[Pointguard]

http://cdn0.sbnation.com/imported_assets/1739909/303769117.gif
:lol It was the witty thing to do.