Lebron just turned 32. I thought he was going to struggle after 30? Haters are mad

[tmacattack33]

The Lebron haters are scared because Lebron just turned 32 and yet is still the second best player in the league. And the only reason he is second is because lightning struck and Stephen Curry is having a legendary season.

I can't believe how many times around 2010 that I would hear things like "Lebron better win now because without his athleticism he is going to fade fast".

Well, it's 2016 now, and he's still ballin'. You mad?



Here's the all-nba and MVP accolades of the 12 players that most people have in their top 10 lists:


The numbers refer to: Amount of all-nba first teams, amount of all-nba second teams, amount of all-nba third teams (I listed third teams for centers only...since centers only get one spot on the team) (Number of MVPs)


Michael Jordan: 10, 1 (6 MVP's)

Magic Johnson: 9, 1 (3 MVP's)

Larry Bird: 9, 1 (3 MVPs)

Shaq: 8, 2, 4 (1 MVP)

Duncan: 10, 3 (2 MVP's)

Hakeem: 6, 3, 3 (1 MVP)

Oscar: 9, 2, (1 MVP)

Kareem: 10, 5, X (6 MVP's)

Wilt: 7, 4, X (4 MVP's)

Kobe: 11, 2 (1 MVP)

Bill Russell: 3, 8, X (5 MVP's)

Dr. J: 5, 2 (1 MVP)

Karl Malone: 8, 2 (2 MVP's)



*an x refers to the fact that before 88 there was no such thing as an all-nba third team




Lebron: 9, 2 (4 MVP's)


This year Lebron will get another first team selection, giving him 10. And i don't see it stopping for a few years, which will give him the most first team selections of all-time.


It looks like Lebron will be consensus top 5 by the time he is done, in the same breathe as Magic and Larry

[Fudge]

He's only 31.

Which is scary. LeGOAT still gonna be GOAT, when it's all said and done.

[Jameerthefear]

31*

[ShawkFactory]

Holy shit is this like a The Flash situation where you're posting this from the future?

[Bandito]

Yeah I am surprised too. He still depends a lot on his athletic ability but he hasn't lost much of it anyways. Is like he's a mutant or something.

[JT123]

Old man Lebron STILL dominating these kids. :bowdown:
By the end of next season he will haver already passed Kobe in longevity as an elite player. :eek:

[tmacattack33]

I see... his player profile said Age 31. I figured they hadn't updated it yet so i added 1 because he just had his birthday yesterday.



Still, age 31 and still ballin...

9 First teams and 2 Second teams.

One more First team coming up this year.

[Bandito]

Old man Lebron STILL dominating these kids. :bowdown:
By the end of next season he will haver already passed Kobe in longevity as an elite player. :eek:
Always playing catch up never the catcher. The story of Le2/6 James.

[feyki]

%28 shooting probably goat shooting , you're right .

[tmacattack33]

%28 shooting probably goat shooting , you're right .

Actually that makes me a little optimistic in a way. He's having a bad shooting year and still doing well.

[DrakeTheSnake]

OP fail.

[DonDadda59]

http://www.backtothefuture.com/img/logo.png

[feyki]

Actually that makes me a little optimistic in a way. He's having a bad shooting year and still doing well.

Lebron arguably second best in the league right now . But his prime is over when he came the Cavs . Like every 30 years old players .

[Chokefree]

Old man Lebron STILL dominating these kids. :bowdown:
By the end of next season he will haver already passed Kobe in longevity as an elite player. :eek:
This is a lebronze thread why bring up kobe??

Rent free

[DoctorP]

https://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_md03n0YVW91qhow0w.gif

[Mr. Jabbar]

Lebron is 32 premise: wrong
Lebron is not struggling premise: wrong

op:fail

[DonDadda59]

OP = The Ghost of New Year's Future

http://www.careerfaqs.com.au/images/news_pages/muppetfuture.png

[dubeta]

Kobe at his age was shitting the bed shooting 6/24 in a Game 7 and Kobe Stans were praising it like the second coming of MJ :lol

[Akrazotile]

http://images.latintimes.com/sites/latintimes.com/files/styles/pulse_embed_breakpoints_theme_lt_desktop_1x/public/2015/06/17/nba-finals-memes_2.jpg

[Bandito]

Kobe at his age was shitting the bed shooting 6/24 in a Game 7 and Kobe Stans were praising it like the second coming of MJ :lol
Lebron at his age was losing IN THE Finals:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[Chokefree]

Lebron at his age was losing IN THE Finals:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
Got em!!

http://i.imgur.com/r3QE0y3.png

[k0kakw0rld]

Jordan only has 5 MVPs OP :facepalm

[sportjames23]

Always playing catch up never the catcher. The story of Le2/6 James.


:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

[game3524]

He is struggling.:oldlol:

Dude isn't even shooting 30% outside of the paint.

[Euroleague]

I see... his player profile said Age 31. I figured they hadn't updated it yet so i added 1 because he just had his birthday yesterday.



Still, age 31 and still ballin...

9 First teams and 2 Second teams.

One more First team coming up this year.

In other words, you couldn't figure out on your own, or even with the help of a calculator, that 2015 minus 1984 = 31....

https://media2.giphy.com/media/KGBqnByYwsusw/200.gif

[stalkerforlife]

31.

Nice thread. :roll:

31 is prime for most athletes. :roll:

[stalkerforlife]

Lebron is 32 premise: wrong
Lebron is not struggling premise: wrong

op:fail

:roll:

[stalkerforlife]

In other words, you couldn't figure out on your own, or even with the help of a calculator, that 2015 minus 1984 = 31....

https://media2.giphy.com/media/KGBqnByYwsusw/200.gif

:roll:

[Inferno]

Honestly, the hate LeBron gets on here is ridiculous. He definitely will end up a top 5 player all time, and a ring or two more would solidify it. I'll go on a limb and say, disregarding accolades (though LeBron has achieved a hell of a lot, Kobe has 5 rings and longevity) and looking at pure dominance of the game, LeBron slightly surpasses Kobe all time. Who knows for sure, but it's close.

I definitely enjoy watching Kobe more though.

[tmacattack33]

The fact that all the haters had to say in reply to this thread was to talk about the mistake of it being 31 instead of 32 says it all.

[stalkerforlife]

The fact that all the haters had to say in reply to this thread was to talk about the mistake of it being 31 instead of 32 says it all.

You're a joke.

And a liar.

[DMAVS41]

Odd time to make a thread about a guy "not struggling" who happens to be struggling about as much as one can to shoot the ball.

[tmacattack33]

He is struggling.:oldlol:

Dude isn't even shooting 30% outside of the paint.

...which would just mean that he is getting to the paint a hell of a lot. Which is obviously a good thing.

[tmacattack33]

Odd time to make a thread about a guy "not struggling" who happens to be struggling about as much as one can to shoot the ball.

Overall he is at 48.8%.

It wouldn't matter if he was 90% within 5 feet and 12% outside of 5 feet.

:confusedshrug:

[DMAVS41]

Overall he is at 48.8%.

It wouldn't matter if he was 90% within 5 feet and 12% outside of 5 feet.

:confusedshrug:

Actually it really does matter. His lack of range shooting, if this were to keep up, would really hurt them in the playoffs.

It doesn't matter much now because these regular season games are much easier to win and they aren't that important.

But if he shoots this poorly in the post season...they won't win it.

And regardless of all that...he's struggling right now...rather largely...in a key area...which is what makes this thread so funny.

[bluechox2]

wow the bran era is ending

[Straight_Ballin]

Lebron just turned 32. I thought he was going to struggle after 30? Haters are mad

You really got the haters stunned with this one mate! I mean, they must be quaking in their boots and very angry at the idea of Lebron regressing and shooting the worst he's ever shot in his entire career. :facepalm

If having a broken jump shot isn't struggling, I don't know what is....

[tmacattack33]

Actually it really does matter. His lack of range shooting, if this were to keep up, would really hurt them in the playoffs.

It doesn't matter much now because these regular season games are much easier to win and they aren't that important.

But if he shoots this poorly in the post season...they won't win it.

And regardless of all that...he's struggling right now...rather largely...in a key area...which is what makes this thread so funny.

If he is shooting so poorly from outside yet is still putting up 25 on 49%FG, then this just means he is attacking the rim at an amazing level.

Not one mention of that...which would actually be relevant to this thread, which is about the fact that Lebron can still do many of the things he was doing at 27.

[DMAVS41]

If he is shooting so poorly from outside yet is still putting up 25 on 49%FG, then this just means he is attacking the rim at an amazing level.

Not one mention of that...which would actually be relevant to this thread, which is about the fact that Lebron can still do many of the things he was doing at 27.

He has the worst scoring efficiency he's had since the 2007 season.

Nobody is saying he's a bad player or something...he's still elite.

However, it's a bit odd to make a thread like this when the player in question has dropped off quite a bit from his recent level in terms of scoring efficiency and is shooting the ball at near career low levels.

[tmacattack33]

He has the worst scoring efficiency he's had since the 2007 season.

Nobody is saying he's a bad player or something...he's still elite.

However, it's a bit odd to make a thread like this when the player in question has dropped off quite a bit from his recent level in terms of scoring efficiency and is shooting the ball at near career low levels.

Yes, he is playing elite. Although not on his 2008-2014 levels.

Which is still better than many would have thought he'd be doing in 2015/2016. Many thought he'd age more like Wade than MJ.

[3ball]

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The statistical gap between MJ and Lebron will continue to grow as Lebron gets older and his stats continue to fall off:


Playoffs Thru Age 30:

Jordan: 34.7 ppg.. 1.6 oreb.. 5.1 dreb.. 6.6 apg.. 3.3 tov.. 2.3 spg.. 1.0 blk.. 50.1 fg.. 58.1 ts.. 119 ORtg
Lebron: 28.2 ppg.. 1.5 oreb.. 7.2 dreb.. 6.7 apg.. 3.5 tov.. 1.7 spg.. 0.9 blk.. 47.3 fg.. 56.5 ts.. 114 ORtg..


Finals Thru Age 30:

Jordan: 36.3 ppg.. 6.6 rpg.. 7.9 apg.. 3.4 tov.. 2.0 spg.. 0.76 bpg.. 52.6 fg
Lebron: 26.4 ppg.. 9.6 rpg.. 6.9 apg.. 4.0 tov.. 1.8 spg.. 0.54 bpg.. 44.6 fg



6-Year Prime - Per Game Stats:

JORDAN 1988-1993 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html#1988-1993-sum:playoffs_per_game): 34.6 ppg.. 1.6 oreb.. 5.1 dreb.. 6.6 apg.. 2.3 stl.. 0.9 blk.. 50.5 fg.. 58.3 ts.. 120 ORtg
LEBRON 2009-2014 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jamesle01.html#2009-2014-sum:playoffs_per_game): 28.1 ppg.. 1.5 oreb.. 7.1 dreb.. 6.1 apg.. 1.8 stl.. 0.9 bpg.. 50.4 fg.. 59.9 ts.. 118 ORtg



6-Year Prime - Per 100 Possessions:

JORDAN 1988-1993 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html#1988-1993-sum:playoffs_per_poss): 44.2 pts.. 2.0 oreb.. 6.6 dreb.. 8.5 ast.. 3.0 stl.. 1.2 blk.. 50.5 fg.. 58.3 ts.. 120 ORtg
LEBRON 2009-2014 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jamesle01.html#2009-2014-sum:playoffs_per_poss): 37.1 pts.. 2.0 oreb.. 9.3 dreb.. 8.1 ast.. 2.3 stl.. 1.2 blk.. 50.4 fg.. 59.9 ts.. 118 ORtg



Career Playoffs:

Jordan: 33.4 ppg.. 1.7 oreb.. 4.7 dreb.. 5.7 apg.. 3.1 tov.. 2.1 spg.. 0.9 blk.. 48.7 fg.. 56.8 ts.. 118 ORtg
Lebron: 28.2 ppg.. 1.5 oreb.. 7.2 dreb.. 6.7 apg.. 3.5 tov.. 1.7 spg.. 0.9 blk.. 47.3 fg.. 56.5 ts.. 114 ORtg..


Career Finals:

Jordan: 33.6 ppg.. 6.0 rpg.. 6.0 apg.. 2.8 tov.. 1.8 spg.. 0.65 bpg.. 48.1 fg
Lebron: 26.4 ppg.. 9.6 rpg.. 6.9 apg.. 4.0 tov.. 1.8 spg.. 0.54 bpg.. 44.6 fg



...............Percentage of team points scored while player was on floor


........................RS.....RS 4th.... PO....PO 4th....Finals.. Finals 4th


JORDAN 1997.... 36.0..... 40.1..... 37.7..... 46.3 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4)...... 40.9...... 50.4 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4&PORound=4)
JORDAN 1998.... 36.3..... 42.1..... 39.7..... 48.8 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4)...... 43.6...... 49.1 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4&PORound=4)



LEBRON 2009.... 35.0..... 39.3..... 41.5..... 42.4
LEBRON 2010.... 34.6..... 44.4..... 32.6..... 40.3
LEBRON 2011.... 32.0..... 32.8..... 28.1..... 30.7...... 21.4...... 14.8 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/usage/?Season=2010-11&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4&PORound=4)
LEBRON 2012.... 34.2..... 33.8..... 34.5..... 34.9...... 30.0...... 33.3
LEBRON 2013.... 32.1..... 32.1..... 30.6..... 36.0...... 29.3...... 39.1
LEBRON 2014.... 33.1..... 38.2..... 35.3..... 32.1...... 39.6...... 29.5
LEBRON 2015.... 30.1..... 38.9..... 35.0..... 42.4...... 40.0...... 44.5
LEBRON 2016.... 33.4..... 40.9


Don't make the mistake of thinking Lebron is close to MJ - there's never been a #1 option in history that scored 5-10 more ppg on better efficiency that wasn't considered the FAR better player..

And the stats above show how 34 and 35 year old MJ scored far more in the FOURTH than prime Lebron - it's pretty damning..

Jordan also had higher APG in the playoffs thru Lebron's current age, and also in their respective primes.. By the time Lebron's career is over, its very likely that his playoff assist average is less than Jordan's.

[Bandito]

In other words, you couldn't figure out on your own, or even with the help of a calculator, that 2015 minus 1984 = 31....

https://media2.giphy.com/media/KGBqnByYwsusw/200.gif


So much BBBBBBBBBUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!

[Doranku]

He is struggling. Do you watch basketball? He f*cking sucks now. :cheers:

The Cavs have ZERO chance to win a title barring injury to both Steph Curry AND Timmy D/Kawhi despite basically having a bye until the finals. OP is a f*cking retard. :oldlol:

[GrapeApe]

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The statistical gap between MJ and Lebron will continue to grow as Lebron gets older and his stats continue to fall off:


Playoffs Thru Age 30:

Jordan: 34.7 ppg.. 1.6 oreb.. 5.1 dreb.. 6.6 apg.. 3.3 tov.. 2.3 spg.. 1.0 blk.. 50.1 fg.. 58.1 ts.. 119 ORtg
Lebron: 28.2 ppg.. 1.5 oreb.. 7.2 dreb.. 6.7 apg.. 3.5 tov.. 1.7 spg.. 0.9 blk.. 47.3 fg.. 56.5 ts.. 114 ORtg..


Finals Thru Age 30:

Jordan: 36.3 ppg.. 6.6 rpg.. 7.9 apg.. 3.4 tov.. 2.0 spg.. 0.76 bpg.. 52.6 fg
Lebron: 26.4 ppg.. 9.6 rpg.. 6.9 apg.. 4.0 tov.. 1.8 spg.. 0.54 bpg.. 44.6 fg



6-Year Prime - Per Game Stats:

JORDAN 1988-1993 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html#1988-1993-sum:playoffs_per_game): 34.6 ppg.. 1.6 oreb.. 5.1 dreb.. 6.6 apg.. 2.3 stl.. 0.9 blk.. 50.5 fg.. 58.3 ts.. 120 ORtg
LEBRON 2009-2014 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jamesle01.html#2009-2014-sum:playoffs_per_game): 28.1 ppg.. 1.5 oreb.. 7.1 dreb.. 6.1 apg.. 1.8 stl.. 0.9 bpg.. 50.4 fg.. 59.9 ts.. 118 ORtg



6-Year Prime - Per 100 Possessions:

JORDAN 1988-1993 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html#1988-1993-sum:playoffs_per_poss): 44.2 pts.. 2.0 oreb.. 6.6 dreb.. 8.5 ast.. 3.0 stl.. 1.2 blk.. 50.5 fg.. 58.3 ts.. 120 ORtg
LEBRON 2009-2014 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jamesle01.html#2009-2014-sum:playoffs_per_poss): 37.1 pts.. 2.0 oreb.. 9.3 dreb.. 8.1 ast.. 2.3 stl.. 1.2 blk.. 50.4 fg.. 59.9 ts.. 118 ORtg



Career Playoffs:

Jordan: 33.4 ppg.. 1.7 oreb.. 4.7 dreb.. 5.7 apg.. 3.1 tov.. 2.1 spg.. 0.9 blk.. 48.7 fg.. 56.8 ts.. 118 ORtg
Lebron: 28.2 ppg.. 1.5 oreb.. 7.2 dreb.. 6.7 apg.. 3.5 tov.. 1.7 spg.. 0.9 blk.. 47.3 fg.. 56.5 ts.. 114 ORtg..


Career Finals:

Jordan: 33.6 ppg.. 6.0 rpg.. 6.0 apg.. 2.8 tov.. 1.8 spg.. 0.65 bpg.. 48.1 fg
Lebron: 26.4 ppg.. 9.6 rpg.. 6.9 apg.. 4.0 tov.. 1.8 spg.. 0.54 bpg.. 44.6 fg



...............Percentage of team points scored while player was on floor


........................RS.....RS 4th.... PO....PO 4th....Finals.. Finals 4th


JORDAN 1997.... 36.0..... 40.1..... 37.7..... 46.3 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4)...... 40.9...... 50.4 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4&PORound=4)
JORDAN 1998.... 36.3..... 42.1..... 39.7..... 48.8 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4)...... 43.6...... 49.1 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4&PORound=4)



LEBRON 2009.... 35.0..... 39.3..... 41.5..... 42.4
LEBRON 2010.... 34.6..... 44.4..... 32.6..... 40.3
LEBRON 2011.... 32.0..... 32.8..... 28.1..... 30.7...... 21.4...... 14.8 (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/usage/?Season=2010-11&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4&PORound=4)
LEBRON 2012.... 34.2..... 33.8..... 34.5..... 34.9...... 30.0...... 33.3
LEBRON 2013.... 32.1..... 32.1..... 30.6..... 36.0...... 29.3...... 39.1
LEBRON 2014.... 33.1..... 38.2..... 35.3..... 32.1...... 39.6...... 29.5
LEBRON 2015.... 30.1..... 38.9..... 35.0..... 42.4...... 40.0...... 44.5
LEBRON 2016.... 33.4..... 40.9


Don't make the mistake of thinking Lebron is close to MJ - there's never been a #1 option in history that scored 5-10 more ppg on better efficiency that wasn't considered the FAR better player..

And the stats above show how 34 and 35 year old MJ scored far more in the FOURTH than prime Lebron - it's pretty damning..

Jordan also had higher APG in the playoffs thru Lebron's current age, and also in their respective primes.. By the time Lebron's career is over, its very likely that his playoff assist average is less than Jordan's.

How did Jordan do in the playoffs at ages 30 and 31?

[3ball]

No problem.

[3ball]

How did Jordan do in the playoffs at ages 30 and 31?



Jordan turned 30 in February 1993 - here's his 1993 playoff and Finals stats at 30 years old:



Jordan 1993 Playoffs: 35.1 ppg.. 6.7 rpg.. 6.0 apg.. 2.9 spg.. 0.9 bpg.. 47.5 fg

Jordan 1993. Finals:., 41.5 ppg.. 8.5 rpg.. 6.3 apg.. 1.7 spg.. 0.7 bpg.. 50.8 fg



At 31 years old, he was batting over .200 in triple A minors because he's a boss like that.

Glad I could be of assistance.

[Rocketswin2013]

If he had a respectable NBA jumpshot he'd be like his 2010 version IMO. Or at least close.


Literally everything about him outside of being the WOAT jumpshooter is at peak levels. His defense, rebounding capacity, everything. If he could hit a jumper, he'd finish easier. He's in crowded lanes every time he slashes. Still at a ridiculous 72% in the restricted area.

According to himself, he's taking more time for shooting practices now.

Before the Nuggets game, he had a workout specifically for his shooting. he watched film on his issues, and then he went out and shot 7/12 on jumpers.

im skeptical but if he can improve in that area, look out.

[The.Juice]

Jordan turned 30 in February 1993 - here's his 1993 playoff and Finals stats at 30 years old:



Jordan 1993 Playoffs: 35.1 ppg.. 6.7 rpg.. 6.0 apg.. 2.9 spg.. 0.9 bpg.. 47.5 fg

Jordan 1993. Finals:., 41.5 ppg.. 8.5 rpg.. 6.3 apg.. 1.7 spg.. 0.7 bpg.. 50.8 fg



At 31 years old, he was batting over .200 in triple A minors because he's a boss like that.

Glad I could be of assistance.

It was actually double A and .200 in double A is not good at all.
He wasn't good as a fielder either.

[GrapeApe]

Jordan turned 30 in February 1993 - here's his 1993 playoff and Finals stats at 30 years old:



Jordan 1993 Playoffs: 35.1 ppg.. 6.7 rpg.. 6.0 apg.. 2.9 spg.. 0.9 bpg.. 47.5 fg

Jordan 1993. Finals:., 41.5 ppg.. 8.5 rpg.. 6.3 apg.. 1.7 spg.. 0.7 bpg.. 50.8 fg



At 31 years old, he was batting over .200 in triple A minors because he's a boss like that.

Glad I could be of assistance.

So you're saying at 31 his NBA playoff averages were 0/0/0/0/0 on 0%. Thanks for clarifying.

[poido123]

32 and still acts like an entitled b.tch.


No more glory for Lebron, he will rot away at the Cavs and their zero championships.

[ArbitraryWater]

Yeah I am surprised too. He still depends a lot on his athletic ability but he hasn't lost much of it anyways. Is like he's a mutant or something.

thats pretty cool for a Kobe fan to admit :cheers:

its insane.. still the 2nd BITW

[retaxis]

Not easy to practice what you should be doing (like he did in Miami) when he has to also be the teams heart and soul, leader, teams GM, teams coach and etc. He has too many jobs in Cleveland which distracts his focus on just improving his form. Unfortunately there are no champions on this team to really help right the ship and Lebron has to do it all.

[Gileraracer]

He IS struggeling. Shoots like 30% from beyond 5 ft :lol :lol :lol