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CavaliersFTW
12-11-2015, 05:41 AM
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-fzb1IgIWsmU/VmqTsIud3CI/AAAAAAAAHYM/0eEmh0deP3g/s800-Ic42/WiltShaq.jpg (https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-fzb1IgIWsmU/VmqTsIud3CI/AAAAAAAAHYM/0eEmh0deP3g/s1280-Ic42/WiltShaq.jpg)

Tried to scale it as accurate as possible. The images seemed to be of similar enough zoom lens and perspective. The lighting is off but other than that I think it turned out okay. Happy to have found a good image of Shaq shooting a jump hook in his athletic prime when he was both nimble AND big. Him at his most physically dominant probably 350lbs yet as nimble as a forward. And then of course Wilt at his physical strongest as a player - his Laker years at 310lbs.

I replaced Jabbar from this image, who was shooting a skyhook over Wilt. Simply cropped Shaq with the ball in his hand and placed him in place of Jabbar while scaling the basketballs so they'd be identical in size. Then got rid of Jabbar and cleaned up the image.

kennethgriffin
12-11-2015, 05:44 AM
nobody Cares About Ilt Chamberlame

dhsilv
12-11-2015, 05:46 AM
The 40 numbers given shaq's were in 2009 might just need to be left off.

Fallen Angel
12-11-2015, 05:49 AM
What is the difference here with any other thread that compares Wilt and Shaq physically? Was that crappy picture you made the only thing?

Horatio33
12-11-2015, 05:55 AM
"Look how physically dominant Wilt is!"

Won half as many titles as Shaq.

Marchesk
12-11-2015, 06:02 AM
"Look how physically dominant Wilt is!"

Won half as many titles as Shaq.

I guess that means Russell was 2.5 times more physically dominant than Shaq.

CavaliersFTW
12-11-2015, 06:05 AM
lol, stop bumping this thread if it bothers some of you so much. Yes, I made the thread strictly because I made the picture. Deal with it, or stop bumping the thread

:D

AirFederer
12-11-2015, 06:22 AM
All imho:

Shaq was probably quicker, way stronger and jumped higher than Wilt. He also had better offensive moves and foot work.

Wilts advatages over Shaq are defense, shot blocking and rebounding.

Shaq also played withing the team, and didn`t statpad not nearly to the degree Wilt did.

Would have been fun to see them go at it. Both ATGs.

JohnMax
12-11-2015, 06:28 AM
Shaq couldn't overpower Dennis Rodman.

coin24
12-11-2015, 06:55 AM
Shaq would destroy gaymberlain like he was Dudley :oldlol:

Asukal
12-11-2015, 06:59 AM
ILt chamberlame would foul out in the first quarter trying to guard Shaq. :oldlol:

Gabuyaux
12-11-2015, 07:00 AM
4.6 40yd dash holy cow

coin24
12-11-2015, 07:02 AM
It's a nice picture and all, but where are the important measurements like weiner length and girth:confusedshrug:

!@#$%Vectors!@#
12-11-2015, 07:27 AM
It's a nice picture and all, but where are the important measurements like weiner length and girth:confusedshrug:

This. OP has to come to terms with the new Era of ISH. Where your post doesn't matter if it has nothing to do with "Thickness"

feyki
12-11-2015, 07:31 AM
Wilt taller by 2 inches , stronger , faster(top speed) and better leaper ( 37 to 35 inches ) . Shaq better post player(more balanced body) , quicker (specially with ball) , better footwork player and more explosive player .

Wilt has defence,athleticism and stamina advantages .

Shaq has balance,quickness and explosive advantages .

Psileas
12-11-2015, 08:49 AM
typical bullshit

Like he did in this pic? All I see here is fatass shaq not being able to take a decent position and resorting to a gay ass hook that he obviously bricked.

GOAT gonna GOAT :rockon:

Psileas
12-11-2015, 08:54 AM
OP, is there any way you can make a visual comparison of Laker Wilt to a post retirement Wilt? I'm interested to see how Wilt at his heaviest as a player (excluding periods like the '64 pre-season) compares to his older, still bulky, version.

GIF REACTION
12-11-2015, 09:13 AM
Wilt to me seemed like a switched on athlete... It was certainly evident after retirement, but he was ahead of his time both as an athlete and in his training methods... During his playing time weight-lifting was shunned upon... I would think it wasn't until the late 70's that weight-lifting caught some drift in the NBA (Cavs will have to correct me on this)... Also the game was at an extremely much faster pace, so the weight disparity can be explained with some logic. Even at 320, Wilt was playing a much faster paced game, I wonder what his Shaq playing weight could have been. I think Shaq might have been slightly thicker, but this is hard to know because Wilt was usually lean to the bone and wearing tighter, shorter uniforms, whereas Shaq was always usually a little bit higher bodyfat and wearing baggier clothing.

Honestly physically I don't think there is much between them in a structural sense. Shaq probably was a little thicker, but Wilt was slightly longer and more explosive. I picture Wilt as a Shaq-David Robinson hybrid. That cannot be understated how good that is.

Elosha
12-11-2015, 11:46 AM
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-fzb1IgIWsmU/VmqTsIud3CI/AAAAAAAAHYM/0eEmh0deP3g/s800-Ic42/WiltShaq.jpg (https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-fzb1IgIWsmU/VmqTsIud3CI/AAAAAAAAHYM/0eEmh0deP3g/s1280-Ic42/WiltShaq.jpg)

Tried to scale it as accurate as possible. The images seemed to be of similar enough zoom lens and perspective. The lighting is off but other than that I think it turned out okay. Happy to have found a good image of Shaq shooting a jump hook in his athletic prime when he was both nimble AND big. Him at his most physically dominant probably 350lbs yet as nimble as a forward. And then of course Wilt at his physical strongest as a player - his Laker years at 310lbs.

I replaced Jabbar from this image, who was shooting a skyhook over Wilt. Simply cropped Shaq with the ball in his hand and placed him in place of Jabbar while scaling the basketballs so they'd be identical in size. Then got rid of Jabbar and cleaned up the image.

Not a bad photoshop. I don't think the advantage of height and reach that Wilt would have would be quite as pronounced. However, in the picture you created, Shaq would be further from the "camera" and thus would be a slightly smaller image. Did you take that into account?

It does show some of their differences. Wilt definitely a bit longer, but significantly less bulky than Shaq in the back, trunk, chest and legs. About equal arm size, or Shaq with slightly larger, but shorter arms. If you're comparing these two images, you are comparing a prime athletic/strength Shaq to a post-prime athletic but probably prime strength Wilt. I'd definitely give the edge in explosiveness, physical dominance, quickness and overall basketball strength to Shaq, and the edge in length, stamina, defense, and possibly finesse to Wilt.

Would be an absolute war.

SyRyanYang
12-11-2015, 11:53 AM
Wilt or Jordan? Deandre that is

Elosha
12-11-2015, 12:01 PM
Wilt or Jordan? Deandre that is

Deandre is probably a better leaper than Wilt or Shaq. He routinely gets rim level, even though he's 3-5 inches shorter than them. Other than that, he has no advantages over either of them and would get absolutely crushed.

mehyaM24
12-11-2015, 12:37 PM
shaq aka MDE > wilt

better fundamentals. stronger. more dominant. better teammate.

above all else though:

a greater playoff performer.

Dragonyeuw
12-11-2015, 12:44 PM
Interesting that Shaq's hands were considerably longer(11 to 9.5) but Wilt's hand spread was longer (11.5 to 11).

Pointguard
12-11-2015, 12:50 PM
Wilt to me seemed like a switched on athlete... It was certainly evident after retirement, but he was ahead of his time both as an athlete and in his training methods... During his playing time weight-lifting was shunned upon... I would think it wasn't until the late 70's that weight-lifting caught some drift in the NBA (Cavs will have to correct me on this)... Also the game was at an extremely much faster pace, so the weight disparity can be explained with some logic. Even at 320, Wilt was playing a much faster paced game, I wonder what his Shaq playing weight could have been. I think Shaq might have been slightly thicker, but this is hard to know because Wilt was usually lean to the bone and wearing tighter, shorter uniforms, whereas Shaq was always usually a little bit higher bodyfat and wearing baggier clothing.

Honestly physically I don't think there is much between them in a structural sense. Shaq probably was a little thicker, but Wilt was slightly longer and more explosive. I picture Wilt as a Shaq-David Robinson hybrid. That cannot be understated how good that is.
Good stuff Gif. Really on point.

Wilt's work ethic and hustle doesn't get enough play. Very few were ever going to outwork him. And a lot of his contemporaries were among greatest workers (Unseld,Thurman, Russell, Reed). When Dwight Howard hustled, he was competing for best player in the league (a Lebron, Dirk, Kobe, Duncan league) without being very skilled. In Shaq's physical prime he wasn't in the conversation of best rebounder or top shot blocker. Rodman could embarrass Shaq by outworking him.

deja vu
12-11-2015, 02:27 PM
Shaq couldn't overpower Dennis Rodman.
While Rodman was a terrific post defender, he was also a dirty player. People always point to that YouTube video where Rodman was successful against Shaq but the fact is Shaq put up his usual offensive numbers against the Bulls.

senelcoolidge
12-11-2015, 02:50 PM
All imho:

Shaq was probably quicker, way stronger and jumped higher than Wilt. He also had better offensive moves and foot work.

Wilts advatages over Shaq are defense, shot blocking and rebounding.

Shaq also played withing the team, and didn`t statpad not nearly to the degree Wilt did.

Would have been fun to see them go at it. Both ATGs.

Sure Shaq was quicker and jumped higher if you compare young/prime Shaq to old Wilt. I think old Wilt was probably stronger than Shaq. But young Wilt was not as strong as Shaq in his prime. Wilt had a better post game and fade away..just better offensive game. He didn't just have to overpower and dunk on people.
You are right that Wilt was a better defender, shot blocker, and rebounder.
Wrong again. Wilt played within the system. Coach wanted Wilt to score a lot, he did. Coach wanted him to be more of a distributer, so he did that. Coach wanted him to be a defensive anchor, check he did it.

AirFederer
09-01-2016, 01:40 PM
Wilt got this, 330+ pounds of muscle :cheers:

http://www.lobshots.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/wilt-speedo.jpg




The power:

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/3a/82/d7/3a82d7698d5ceb9e9a93ddb47c02f819.jpg

LAZERUSS
09-01-2016, 01:45 PM
Wilt got this, 330+ pounds of muscle :cheers:

http://www.lobshots.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/wilt-speedo.jpg




The power:

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/3a/82/d7/3a82d7698d5ceb9e9a93ddb47c02f819.jpg

I can see this topic has been bothering you for the last nine months.

You must have lost a lot of sleep worrying about it.

Jasper
09-01-2016, 06:55 PM
These guys measure out at 11" ...

man I am at least an easy 12.

ILLsmak
09-01-2016, 07:12 PM
lol at Shaq running a 5.8 40 in 2009. Why would you even put that up there? Dude could barely run in 2009.

-Smak

ClipperRevival
09-01-2016, 07:29 PM
:applause:

Gotta give it up to these two. Over the last 65+ years of documented NBA ball, these two stand out as the most physically imposing and freakishly athletic men to ever play. Truly special athletes. Glad I got to watch Shaq at his peak.

G-train
09-01-2016, 09:39 PM
Shaq couldn't overpower Dennis Rodman.

Yes he could, and very easily.

The bulls were able to hold him to 25 points or so occasionally, by having Longley or Rodman guard him, and double/triple teaming him with Jordan/Pippen/Harper.

Annyong!
09-02-2016, 11:12 AM
I guess that means Russell was 2.5 times more physically dominant than Shaq.
Nope, just mentally.