Is Bosh the worst Game 7 performer in NBA history?

[dubeta]

2012 Game 7 vs Celtics 19 points 8 rebounds (mostly in garbage time)


2013 Game 7 vs Pacers 9 points 3/13 shooting



2013 Game 7 vs Spurs 0 points 0/7 shooting




:confusedshrug:

[Mr. Jabbar]

DUDE. Join to the Curry family. Its amazing here, like a fairy tale... its a clutch, Hollywood ending every game with our point god.

[dubeta]

DUDE. Join to the Curry family. Its amazing here, like a fairy tale... its a clutch, Hollywood ending every game with our point god.

Really? How do I apply?

[riseagainst]

Really? How do I apply?

spit lebron's cvm outta your mouth first.

[Mr. Jabbar]

Really? How do I apply?

I run the family, basically you ask me and you're in since I already know you.

[CurryOverLebron]

Im glad I picked this username

[Mr. Jabbar]

Im glad I picked this username

Damn, great Nickname choice, obvious and redundant but great.

[dubeta]

I run the family, basically you ask me and you're in since I already know you.


Idk Curry seems like a one-hit wonder



He's good now but next thing you know he could go 0/11 again, not a good look, gets the Kobe "carried" label attached to his career.



I don't wanna join a sinking ship, and then be forced to join the Davis family the next year. Too many families, spreads things too THIN if you catch my drift

[Marchesk]

I don't wanna join a sinking ship, and then be forced to join the Davis family the next year. Too many families, spreads things too THIN if you catch my drift

You could always join the Jordan family. Wouldn't have to worry about 2/7 or getting carried.

They might not let you in, though.

[FLDFSU]

Possibly. But Erik Spo is by far the worst coach of a Game 7 in NBA history...

[Mr. Jabbar]

Idk Curry seems like a one-hit wonder



He's good now but next thing you know he could go 0/11 again, not a good look, gets the Kobe "carried" label attached to his career.



I don't wanna join a sinking ship, and then be forced to join the Davis family the next year. Too many families, spreads things too THIN if you catch my drift

My brother, your ship is 2/6 soon to be 2/7. You can literally jump anywhere and be in a better situation. I offer you 1/1, clutch performances and Finals wins. Best of all, you can actually watch the games cause THEY ARE ACTUALLY FUN TO WATCH :cheers:

[Magic 32]

2012 Game 7 vs Celtics 19 points 8 rebounds (mostly in garbage time)



Oh so now you care about that. :roll: :roll: :roll:

I got some bad news.

[aj1987]

2012 Game 7 vs Celtics 19 points 8 rebounds (mostly in garbage time)


2013 Game 7 vs Pacers 9 points 3/13 shooting

2013 Game 7 vs Spurs 0 points 0/7 shooting

:confusedshrug:

11 points in first 3 Q's.

4th Q score 75-73 Boston.

Bosh makes a 3pt shot and gets to 14 points. Gives miami a 1pt lead.

Score 82-83 Miami. Bosh makes a 3pt shot and gets to 17 points and gives Miami a 4pt lead.

Score 86-91 Miami with 4 minutes left. Bosh makes a 2pt shot and gives Miami a 7pt lead.

How're those garbage time points. Bosh, after coming back from his injury was HUGE for Miami in that Game 7. If you didn't watch the game, you could've looked it up on BB-Ref before making those idiotic claim, ****ing moron.

[Horatio33]

Bosh was incredible in 2013 finals game 7. Watch the game, especially the second half. His defence was incredible, shut down the Spurs bigs.

[dubeta]

Bosh was incredible in 2013 finals game 7. Watch the game, especially the second half. His defence was incredible, shut down the Spurs bigs.

Yup his 0 points really helped the Heat win :applause:




If LeBron had a same game, would you call it incredible as well?

[Hittin_Shots]

Wouldn't of beat the Cs without him in that game 7, wouldn't of beat spurs without his two offensive rebounds in g6 13, would have zero titles.

[GrapeApe]

Bosh was incredible in 2013 finals game 7. Watch the game, especially the second half. His defence was incredible, shut down the Spurs bigs.

:applause:

Eveyone gets so caught up in numbers that completely ignore defense. Bosh was OUTSTANDING defensively, and not just in that game, but for the better part of the big 3 years. He was the best PnR defending big in the league, was a great help defender, and covered more floor than any Heat defender. His versatlity and range on that end allowed Lebron and Wade to wreak havoc out on the perimeter. Bosh deserved an all-defense selection in 2013, but he's not a rim protector so sometimes his defensive contributions get overlooked.

[dubeta]

:applause:

Eveyone gets so caught up in numbers that completely ignore defense. Bosh was OUTSTANDING defensively, and not just in that game, but for the better part of the big 3 years. He was the best PnR defending big in the league, was a great help defender, and covered more floor than any Heat defender. His versatlity and range on that end allowed Lebron and Wade to wreak havoc out on the perimeter. Bosh deserved an all-defense selection in 2013, but he's not a rim protector so sometimes his defensive contributions get overlooked.

how was his defense vs the Pacers?

[GIF REACTION]

Bosh got a pass too many times in those championship years

'But it's the center defense impact!"

Yeah, ok. But he still averaged like 13 points and 0 points in a game 7 in the nba finals...

The truth? He wasn't a star like the kobetards said he was... Dwyane was borderline in 2012 and 2013 playoffs... He was like Klay Thompson to Stephen Curry... Not Westbrook to Durant...

[dubeta]

Bosh got a pass too many times in those championship years

'But it's the center defense impact!"

Yeah, ok. But he still averaged like 13 points and 0 points in a game 7 in the nba finals...

The truth? He wasn't a star like the kobetards said he was... Dwyane was borderline in 2012 and 2013 playoffs... He was like Klay Thompson to Stephen Curry... Not Westbrook to Durant...

Even klay thompson is better, Bosh is more Lamar Odom with worse rebounding

[GIF REACTION]

Even klay thompson is better, Bosh is more Lamar Odom with worse rebounding
No I mean Dwyane Wade was Klay Thompson level in those championships

He was not Westbrook level sidekick

[JT123]

It's a tie between him and Kobe

[GrapeApe]

how was his defense vs the Pacers?

Hibbert is a tough match up for Bosh. Bosh isn't a center, and he had Shane Battier as his PF. Of course that front line is going to struggle against Hibbert and West. That's the main reason the Pacers were so tough those years. Bosh played out of position for 3 years. That's another thing that gets overlooked, and even playing out of position he still did all the things I mentioned in my previous post.

In the finals, particularly in game 7, Bosh was EVERYWHERE defensively. He did a good job defending the post, he cut off driving lanes, he doubled on the perimeter, he seamlessly switched on PnR's, and at times even effectively guarded Parker on the perimeter.

[Quickening]

It's a tie between him and Kobe
This.

Lebron, Shaq and Gasol did some heavy lifting

[GrapeApe]

No I mean Dwyane Wade was Klay Thompson level in those championships

He was not Westbrook level sidekick

In 2012:

Regular Season:
Wade: 22/5/5/1.7/1.3 and 26.3 PER
Thompson:22/3/3/1.1/0.8 and a 20.8 PER

Playoffs:
Wade: 23/5/4/1.7/1.3 and a 24.0 PER
Thompson:19/3/4/0.8/0.9 and a 14.8 PER

Wade's 2012 season is ridiculously underrated. He was the only second option in history to ever post a top 3 PER in the league. Save for the game he had his knee drained he was also terrific in the playoffs, particularly on defense. 2012 Wade was still very much a superstar.

[GIF REACTION]

In 2012:

Regular Season:
Wade: 22/5/5/1.7/1.3 and 26.3 PER
Thompson:22/3/3/1.1/0.8 and a 20.8 PER

Playoffs:
Wade: 23/5/4/1.7/1.3 and a 24.0 PER
Thompson:19/3/4/0.8/0.9 and a 14.8 PER

Wade's 2012 season is ridiculously underrated. He was the only second option in history to ever post a top 3 PER in the league. Save for the game he had his knee drained he was also terrific in the playoffs, particularly on defense. 2012 Wade was still very much a superstar.
2013?

He was first threepeat Scottie Pippen level in 2012

And probably 2nd threepeat Scottie Pippen level in 2013

[KendrickPerkins]

In 2012:

Regular Season:
Wade: 22/5/5/1.7/1.3 and 26.3 PER
Thompson:22/3/3/1.1/0.8 and a 20.8 PER

Playoffs:
Wade: 23/5/4/1.7/1.3 and a 24.0 PER
Thompson:19/3/4/0.8/0.9 and a 14.8 PER

Wade's 2012 season is ridiculously underrated. He was the only second option in history to ever post a top 3 PER in the league. Save for the game he had his knee drained he was also terrific in the playoffs, particularly on defense. 2012 Wade was still very much a superstar.
Indeed

Much better player than Westbrook even in the outskirts of his prime

[GrapeApe]

2013?

He was first threepeat Scottie Pippen level in 2012

And probably 2nd threepeat Scottie Pippen level in 2013

This probably accurate.

He was mediocre for most of the playoffs in 2013. He did however step up in the finals, averaging 24/6/5/2/2 in games 4-7. It was so damn frustrating when he got that bone bruise in April. I think if he's healthy the Heat don't get pushed past 5 games in that playoff run. (Well maybe SA does)

[SouBeachTalents]

This probably accurate.

He was mediocre for most of the playoffs in 2013. He did however step up in the finals, averaging 24/6/5/2/2 in games 4-7. It was so damn frustrating when he got that bone bruise in April. I think if he's healthy the Heat don't get pushed past 5 games in that playoff run.

Story of Wade's career bro, dude just couldn't stay healthy

[dubeta]

Story of Wade's career bro, dude just couldn't stay healthy

lol? he was fully healthy in 2009 and 2010 and still lost in the 1st round both times

[Naero]

It's also worth noting that he was hobbled in both Game 7s in 2013, having sustained an injury midway through the Pacers series.

Either way, 3 Game 7s is only a sample size, especially when he was hobbled for two of them. If you want to lend into them, more power to you; but the sample size comes with a grain of salt, and it's not really worth assessing such rarities of games for a player's career unless it's a superstar that's expected to perform superbly in them and has had a fair ration of chances to prove it.

[GrapeApe]

lol? he was fully healthy in 2009 and 2010 and still lost in the 1st round both times

The 2009 Heat had no business even making the playoffs with that roster. In 2008 when Wade was hurt and missed most of the season that team won 15 games. A healthy Wade improved them by 28 wins. They don't sniff the playoffs unless Wade puts up 30/8/5/2.2/1.3 and finishes 3rd in DPOY. In 2010 he lost to the same team Lebron lost to, and Wade put up better numbers.

[dubeta]

The 2009 Heat had no business even making the playoffs with that roster. In 2008 when Wade was hurt and missed most of the season that team won 15 games. A healthy Wade improved them by 28 wins. They don't sniff the playoffs unless Wade puts up 30/8/5/2.2/1.3 and finishes 3rd in DPOY. In 2010 he lost to the same team Lebron lost to, and Wade put up better numbers.

lol what? LeBron and Wade had similar supporting casts in 2009-2010, LeBron won 60+ games, while wade was winning 44-47 games

[GrapeApe]

lol what? LeBron and Wade had similar supporting casts in 2009-2010, LeBron won 60+ games, while wade was winning 44-47 games

:oldlol:

Here's a comparison of supporting casts against the common playoff opponent Celtics in 2010:

Wade's "second option" Jermaine O'neal averaged 4.2 ppg on 21% fg.

Lebron had THREE players (Shaq, Jamison, Williams) average more ppg than Wade's second option in the series (Chalmers).

Scoring differential between Wade and his second option: 22 ppg

Scoring differential between Lebron and his FOURTH option: 15 ppg

Chalmers was second to Wade in apg at 2.6. Williams was second to Lebron in apg at 5.5.

Assist differential between Wade and Chalmers: 4.2 apg

Assist differential between Lebron and Williams: 1.7 apg

Wade's supporting cast collectively shot 40%, Lebron's shot 45%.

GTFOH with that "similar supporting cast" nonsense. That's an absolute joke. And Wade's supporting cast in 2009 was arguably the worst in the league. Wade would have KILLED to have Mo Williams on that team.