Is Curry the best player in the league?

[Mr. Jabbar]

I hear a lot that he is already thicker than LeBron ever was cause he is 1/1 and what not but hear me out; HIS TEAM IS UTTERLY STACKED. We've seen LeBeast taking over an entire franchise by himself and getting them to the finals (2007/2015). The thickness of that feat alone would be too much for a guy who is NOT PACKING like lebron. Period.

He has Klay Thompson and this guy Iguodala and Dra Green. TOO MANY weapons by his side.

[deja vu]

No. But he's the best shooter and scorer.

[Monta Ellis MVP]

This "LeBron family" whines a lot.

[Naero]

You're doing the LeBron fan' a disservice by inciting these counterarguments, which can only instigate more detraction on LeBron's part. :facepalm

Successful ploy is successful.

[SugarHill]

everyone is the best player in the league after 2 games. Whoever has a great game.

[sportjames23]

Lightskin nikkas run this shit now. And Chef Curry is the king of lightskin nikkas.

Bow down.

[Jameerthefear]

Yeah

[Heavincent]

Yes.

[Spurs m8]

There's no doubt by now that he has passed Lebron...
Easily.

[Heavincent]

everyone is the best player in the league after 2 games. Whoever has a great game.

Dude just came off a championship. Lets not act like this is a fluke.

[SugarHill]

Dude just came off a championship. Lets not act like this is a fluke.
westbrook was the best player yesterday. Durant is going to do something crazy soon and it'll be "did y'all forget?" then lebron might go off and it's "he's just coasting"...etc

[Orlando Magic]

No he's not. LeBron is the only player. .. maybe Durant... put them on ANY roster and you're guaranteed 20 more wins and a playoff seed.

[VeeCee15]

right now he is
thing is..all of curry's points are efficient and effortless..he doesn't have to spend energy bulldozing through guys are banging into guys to get his pts..he can score faster than lebron, less wasted energy

[Mr. Jabbar]

No he's not. LeBron is the only player. .. maybe Durant... put them on ANY roster and you're guaranteed 20 more wins and a playoff seed.

Agreed on the Lethick part. Scratch the thin reaper and we have an understanding.

[Monta Ellis MVP]

westbrook was the best player yesterday. Durant is going to do something crazy soon and it'll be "did y'all forget?" then lebron might go off and it's "he's just coasting"...etc

Is this a serious post?

[Monta Ellis MVP]

Agreed on the Lethick part. Scratch the thin reaper and we have an understanding.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

[Lebronxrings]

depends, is he the best player next game? IDk since ish likes to decide the best player based on one- two games. I mean, we have switched best players many times- lebron,durant,terrence ross, mo williams, cj mccollum,now curry.

[AussieBaller99]

Best per 36 stats in the first 3 games of the season ever?

[Cold soul]

No top 5 atm.

[Monta Ellis MVP]

Best per 36 stats in the first 3 games of the season ever?

GOATCurry

[stalkerforlife]

Curry's the best and has the most impact in the game.

It is what it is.

Beyond all the BS trolling, Curry is the best player in the world.

And no, that team isn't as stacked as you think. It only seems stacked because Curry is so good and garners so much attention.

[Mr. Jabbar]

Curry's the best and has the most impact in the game.

It is what it is.

Beyond all the BS trolling, Curry is the best player in the world.

And no, that team isn't as stacked as you think. It only seems stacked because Curry is so good and garners so much attention.

I think you are right bro, please forgive me. Sometimes I let my fandom towards Lebron cloud my judging.

[Al Thornton]

Curry's the best and has the most impact in the game.

It is what it is.

Beyond all the BS trolling, Curry is the best player in the world.

And no, that team isn't as stacked as you think. It only seems stacked because Curry is so good and garners so much attention.

they are stacked with great defensive players. thompson, iguodala, draymond, bogut, ezeli

[kunk75]

westbrook, curry, lebron, harden, KD, davis probably in that order

[ShaqTwizzle]

Not until Kobe retires. Lettuce be real.
Put Curry & Kobe on the playground 1v1 and we know who is getting killed.

[stalkerforlife]

Not until Kobe retires. Lettuce be real.
Put Curry & Kobe on the playground 1v1 and we know who is getting killed.

1 on 1 is a different story.

Kobe would easily beat anyone in the world 1 on 1.

[34-24 Footwork]

Not until Kobe retires. Lettuce be real.
Put Curry & Kobe on the playground 1v1 and we know who is getting killed.

For a dude that's washed up, he seems to be constantly occupying the greater half of your brain.

[24-Inch_Chrome]

No.

[34-24 Footwork]

Curry and Westbrook.....

1a or 1b on any given night. Both are unstoppable in their own right.

[JT123]

:biggums: Did Lebron James retire?

[CarlosBoozer]

I feel curry isn't really thick, more like the skinny but long type.

[Monta Ellis MVP]

they are stacked with great defensive players. thompson, iguodala, draymond, bogut, ezeli

That totally explains why they are the best offense in the league.

:facepalm

[Mr. Jabbar]

I feel curry isn't really thick, more like the skinny but long type.

It's a damn shame we all end up having to guess what players di.cks look like. The nba should take official di.k pics for the player profiles. Lets say you have two similar players, as a GM you would let di.k size be the deciding factor but right now you can't. Rockets would have never hired baby di.ck Harden if they knew about his tiny bulge.

[ShaqTwizzle]

For those who are curious.
His full stats through the first 3 games.

39.5-ppg / 7.3-apg on 76%TS

I can't calculate PER but it is probably around 47 or 48 or something after tonight (I guess).
BBRef will update it soon.

[bdreason]

Right now, 3 games into the season, he's the best player in the league.

[Monta Ellis MVP]

For those who are curious.
His full stats through the first 3 games.

39.5-ppg / 7.3-apg on 76%TS

I can't calculate PER but it is probably around 47 or 48 or something after tonight (I guess).
BBRef will update it soon.

GOAT Curry

[Marchesk]

I'm a huge Bean fan, but I'd still take Bran over Curry.

[Spurs m8]

There are 12 Curry threads on the front page lmao

Including 4 of the first 5 tbh

[Marchesk]

There are 12 Curry threads on the front page lmao

Including 4 of the first 5 tbh

The new Kobe :confusedshrug:

GODrry

[Al Thornton]

That totally explains why they are the best offense in the league.

:facepalm

yeah curry is the reason they have the second best offense in the league but the reason they are the champions and blow every team out is because of the defense.

[BlakFrankWhite]

Did Kevin Durant retire? :biggums:

[Marchesk]

Did Kevin Durant retire? :biggums:

No, but he's only averaging 32.5 through his first two games.

[bdreason]

Did Kevin Durant retire? :biggums:


Some would argue he's the 2nd best player on his own team.

[Monta Ellis MVP]

Did Kevin Durant retire? :biggums:

No he just sucks compared to Curry.

[buddha]

how stacked would the Warriors look if they were playing LeBron ball? Draymond Green and Iguodala would be bricking 3's left and right. Klay Thompson would thrive though.

[BoutPractice]

Only five months ago, LeBron was pretty clearly the best player on a court that also had Steph Curry on it.

[Monta Ellis MVP]

Only five months ago, LeBron was pretty clearly the best player on a court that also had Steph Curry on it.

Curry was injured. He had a concussion after he fell on his neck end the end of the WCF.

[BoutPractice]

And LeBron was in perfect health?

Everyone is injured by that time of the year.

Curry was playing just fine in the Finals. He won, led his team in scoring and had a very good case for FMVP. Yes, he was playing a bit below standard in the beginning, but it had nothing to do with injury... he was his usual Curry self by the middle of the series...

That usual Curry self happens to be not quite as good as LeBron - which doesn't take away anything from him.

[3ball]

Curry works in this era.. But without the 3-point line - without that extra point for 3-pointers, he'd be a far worse player than Pete Maravich.

[Dr Hawk]

Curry works in this era.. But without the 3-point line - without that extra point for 3-pointers, he'd be a far worse player than Pete Maravich.

Pete MAravich was a turn over machine, so no, just because of that, Curry wouldn't be a far worse player than him. Also, Curry is a mid-range god, better than PEte in that regard too. So Pete would be a far worse player than Curry (and is)

[Kobe_6/8]

If there was a draft to build a team that would win this season, would Curry be the #1 pick? No.

[Dr Hawk]

Yes, Curry is he best player in the league by a wide margin

[Achilleas]

curry best player :bowdown: :applause:

[Dr Hawk]

curry best player :bowdown: :applause:

This :bowdown:

[StephHamann]

Curry is probably 3/4 white, so i must say no.

[3ball]

Pete MAravich was a turn over machine, so no, just because of that, Curry wouldn't be a far worse player than him. Also, Curry is a mid-range god, better than PEte in that regard too. So Pete would be a far worse player than Curry (and is)
Pete's a better 2-point shooter... no question... curry could never average 30 or 40 on all 2-pointers in nba or college like pete did

[Dr Hawk]

Pete's a better 2-point shooter... no question... curry could never average 30 or 40 on all 2-pointers in nba or college like pete did

Yes he could if he focused on that and with much less TO's and a lot better passer

[Monta Ellis MVP]

Pete's a better 2-point shooter... no question... curry could never average 30 or 40 on all 2-pointers in nba or college like pete did

:biggums:

Pete Maravich took 38 shots per game during his college career...

[3ball]

:biggums:

Pete Maravich took 38 shots per game during his college career...
what was his percentage???.... Okay, now understand that was all midrange

curry can't shoot from midrange like that, ESPECIALLY at that volume...

you fools think that guys shoot the same percentage no matter the volume.. :oldlol: .. keep dreaming and keep not understanding the game... and consequently, keep being surprised by what happens on the court
.

[Monta Ellis MVP]

what was his percentage???.... Okay, now understand that was all midrange

curry can't shoot from midrange like that, ESPECIALLY at that volume...

you fools think that guys shoot the same percentage no matter the volume.. :oldlol: .. keep dreaming and keep not understanding the game... and consequently, keep being surprised by what happens on the court
.

Pete Maravich's career college FG% was 44%.

Steph Curry in 2015 shot 3 pointers on 44% vs NBA defenses.

[Quickening]

Pete Maravich's career college FG% was 44%.

Steph Curry in 2015 shot 3 pointers on 44% vs NBA defenses.

3balls just got wrecked

[Monta Ellis MVP]

Pete Maravich career FT was 77% in college. That is LeBron status. Curry is on another level and would take Pistol Pete to school if he played during his time.

[3ball]

Pete Maravich's career college FG% was 44%.

Steph Curry in 2015 shot 3 pointers on 44% vs NBA defenses.
curry shot 44% at midrange on very low volume.

maravich shot 44% at literally 3-4 times the volume.. it's not even close..

also, maravich shot 44% in the NBA on much higher volume as well, while averaging 30+ ppg - again, on all 2-pointers... curry can't do that... take this L

[Jameerthefear]

Pete shot 44% on ALL shots. Not just the midrange, you moron.

[Monta Ellis MVP]

curry shot 44% at midrange on very low volume.

maravich shot 44% at literally 3-4 times the volume.. it's not even close..

also, maravich shot 44% in the NBA on much higher volume as well, while averaging 30+ ppg - again, on all 2-pointers... curry can't do that... take this L

Curry can shoot 25 foot bombs in the NBA as well as Pisstol Pete made all his shots in a segregated all white college league!!!

[Quickening]

Pete shot 44% on ALL shots. Not just the midrange, you moron.

:lol :roll: :applause:

[3ball]

Pete shot 44% on ALL shots. Not just the midrange, you moron.
44% represents pete's midrange percentage, minus his at-rim shots, which couldn't have been more than about 10-15% of his shots (like Curry) at no more than 55% or so, same as westbrook.

Do that math on that, and maravich shot over 40% from midrange, on literally 3 times more volume than Curry..

Of course, since all of maravich's shots were from midrange (not a selected few like Curry), and since maravich faced defenses that didn't have guard 3's and could pack the paint, maravich's midrange was far better contested.. maravich faced lower DRtg too... much lower

[Dr Hawk]

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Come on 3bal, you are the MVP of ISH, don't do this to yourself

[Jameerthefear]

44% represents pete's midrange percentage, minus his at-rim shots, which couldn't have been more than about 10-15% of his shots (like Curry) at no more than 55% or so, same as westbrook.

Do that math on that, and maravich shot over 40% from midrange, on literally 3 times more volume than Curry..

Of course, since all of maravich's shots were from midrange (not a selected few like Curry), and since maravich faced defenses that didn't have guard 3's and could pack the paint, maravich's midrange was far better contested.. maravich faced lower DRtg too... much lower
You literally just pulled that out of your ass.
Not to mention even Curry shot 69% at the rim last year. We don't have the midrange stats. You can't just make shit up buddy.

[3ball]

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Come on 3bal, you are the MVP of ISH, don't do this to yourself
specifically identify what you disagree with, or stfu

[Quickening]

44% represents pete's midrange percentage, minus his at-rim shots, which couldn't have been more than about 10-15% of his shots (like Curry) at no more than 55% or so, same as westbrook.

Do that math on that, and maravich shot over 40% from midrange, on literally 3 times more volume than Curry..

Of course, since all of maravich's shots were from midrange (not a selected few like Curry), and since maravich faced defenses that didn't have guard 3's and could pack the paint, maravich's midrange was far better contested.. maravich faced lower DRtg too... much lower

So we are suppose to do the math on stats you're clutching from thin air? :lol :roll: :applause:

[Dr Hawk]

specifically identify what you disagree with, or stfu


Pete MAravich was a turn over machine, so no, just because of that, Curry wouldn't be a far worse player than him. Also, Curry is a mid-range god, better than PEte in that regard too. So Pete would be a far worse player than Curry (and is)


Saying Maravich would be a far better player than Curry is laughable and you know it

[ShaqTwizzle]

Steph's current [PER] = 52.3

:biggums: :biggums: :biggums:

[Monta Ellis MVP]

3ball had too much to drink.

[3ball]

You literally just pulled that out of your ass.
Not to mention even Curry shot 69% at the rim last year. We don't have the midrange stats. You can't just make shit up buddy.
the assumptions are perfectly reasonable...

maravich was a jumpshooter, just like curry.. if we assume maravich shoots 15% of his shots at the rim at 60% fg (just like Curry), that would mean Pete shot over 40% from midrange, at literally 3 times the volume.

and again, since all of maravich's shots were from midrange (not a selected few like Curry), and since maravich faced defenses with FAR lower DRtg that didn't have guard 3's and could pack the paint, maravich's midrange was far better contested..

remember, maravich faced much lower DRtg.. MUCH, MUCH lower - it was harder to score back when there was no 3-point line whatsoever, and defenses could pack the paint.. :confusedshrug: .. you want to call that poppycock?... then you're the biased one, not me

[Monta Ellis MVP]

the assumptions are perfectly reasonable...

maravich was a jumpshooter, just like curry.. if we assume maravich shoots 15% of his shots at the rim at 60% fg (just like Curry), that would mean Pete shot over 40% from midrange, at literally 3 times the volume.

and again, since all of maravich's shots were from midrange (not a selected few like Curry), and since maravich faced defenses with FAR lower DRtg that didn't have guard 3's and could pack the paint, maravich's midrange was far better contested..

remember, maravich faced much lower DRtg.. MUCH, MUCH lower - it was harder to score back when there was no 3-point line whatsoever, and defenses could pack the paint.. :confusedshrug: .. you want to call that poppycock?... then you're the biased one, not me

No 3 point line = less points for the same shots = artificially lowered DRTG ratings

[Jameerthefear]

the assumptions are perfectly reasonable...

maravich was a jumpshooter, just like curry.. if we assume maravich shoots 15% of his shots at the rim at 60% fg (just like Curry), that would mean Pete shot over 40% from midrange, at literally 3 times the volume.

and again, since all of maravich's shots were from midrange (not a selected few like Curry), and since maravich faced defenses with FAR lower DRtg that didn't have guard 3's and could pack the paint, maravich's midrange was far better contested..

remember, maravich faced much lower DRtg.. MUCH, MUCH lower - it was harder to score back when there was no 3-point line whatsoever, and defenses could pack the paint.. :confusedshrug: .. you want to call that poppycock?... then you're the biased one, not me
No they aren't, because the stats ARENT THERE. It's literally you pulling stats out of your own ass and trying to push them as fact. F*ck off.

[3ball]

Saying Maravich would be a far better player than Curry is laughable and you know it


maybe not FAR better, but pete was easily better (in a game where there wasn't a 3-point line)..

curry's game is so well-suited for today's environment, that he's arguably the best player in today's game!!!!!

but in the 80's or 90's, he wouldn't sniff the top 5... probably not even top 10... that's how much today's game benefits curry, and that's why you should be wary overrating him.

if you take away the 3-point line so defenses can pack the paint.... and lower the league-wide DRtg literally 10 points... THEN lets see if curry can do what Maravich did: average 30 ppg on high volume while shooting around 44-45%... on all two's of course... Curry can't even do that in today's game, WITH all the spacing.. :rolleyes:

[Captvic]

You are being delusional dude above me. Curry would shake and bake Maravich out of his shoes no disrespect.

[3ball]

You are being delusional dude above me. Curry would shake and bake Maravich out of his shoes no disrespect.
again, without the 3-point line, curry would need to take contested midrange as a standard like maravich did.

curry can't average 30 ppg on all 2-pointers and contested midrange like maravich.

curry benefits from the 3-point line more than any player in history - this is statistical fact.. his game is so well-suited for today's environment, that he's arguably the best player in today's game!!!!!

but in the 80's or 90's, he wouldn't sniff the top 5... probably not even top 10... that's how much today's game benefits curry, and that's why you should be wary overrating him

[Kovach]

Saying Maravich would be a far better player than Curry is laughable and you know it
To be fair as is saying that he was far worse. Pete was a one in a generation monster talent/skills-wise.



but in the 80's or 90's, he wouldn't sniff the top 5... probably not even top 10... that's how much today's game benefits curry, and that's why you should be wary overrating him
You have absolutely no clue how his game would adapt.

[Dr Hawk]

again, without the 3-point line, curry would need to take contested midrange as a standard like maravich did.

curry can't average 30 ppg on all 2-pointers and contested midrange like maravich.

curry benefits from the 3-point line more than any player in history - this is statistical fact.. his game is so well-suited for today's environment, that he's arguably the best player in today's game!!!!!

but in the 80's or 90's, he wouldn't sniff the top 5... probably not even top 10... that's how much today's game benefits curry, and that's why you should be wary overrating him

He already takes contested 3pointers ( I remember even you saying that, by the way). No reason to think he wouldn't be able to maintain or even improve his % from a closer range.

[3ball]

He already takes contested 3pointers ( I remember even you saying that, by the way). No reason to think he wouldn't be able to maintain or even improve his % from a closer range.
More bullshit.. The NBA has data on how contested 3-point shots are.. 0.7% of the Warriors 3-pointers (less than 1%) were taken with the defender within 2 feet, which is about the league-average:

http://stats.nba.com/league/team/shots/#!/?sectionName=Closest%20Defenders&section=CloseDefDistRange&range=0-2%20Feet%20-%20Very%20Tight&sort=FG3A_FREQUENCY&dir=1&Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Regular%20Season


So almost all of Curry's 3-pointers are taken with the defender further than 2 feet away... since 3-pointers are HALF of Curry's shot attempts, we know his shots are FAR less contested than Maravich's were..

With zero spacing in Maravich's day, there was less hope of getting "open looks" through ball movement, so players were expected to simply take their man.. Consequently, contested midrange was expected and standard, which resulted in league-wide DRtg being literally 10 points lower than today.

Also, 62% of Curry's 3-pointers are assisted.. Maravich didn't get 3-pointers at all, let alone assisted 3-pointers..

[Dr Hawk]

Were all of Maravich 2pointers contested shots?

[3ball]

Were all of Maravich 2pointers contested shots?
Again, we know for a fact that less than 1% of Curry's 3-pointers are taken with a defender within 2 feet... and 3-pointers are literally half of Curry's shots.

So that means HALF OF CURRY'S SHOTS are taken with a defender further than 2 feet away.. Don't compare this guy to Maravich..

Why don't you watch some Maravich - you tell me who's shots are more contested (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qv0YS1wHoQ&t=0m22s).
.

[juju151111]

Why do people continue to argue with 3ball is a retard.

[LoneyROY7]

Again, we know for a fact that less than 1% of Curry's 3-pointers are taken with a defender within 2 feet... and 3-pointers are literally half of Curry's shots.

So that means HALF OF CURRY'S SHOTS are taken with a defender further than 2 feet away.. Don't compare this guy to Maravich..

Why don't you watch some Maravich - you tell me who's shots are more contested (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qv0YS1wHoQ&t=0m22s).
.

Thanks for the highlight vid. After watching that clip, it's clear as day that Curry is better and more talented.

[jimmy77x]

Curry 100x more skilled and talented than James, who is all about size and superior athletic ability.

[iznogood]

Again, we know for a fact that less than 1% of Curry's 3-pointers are taken with a defender within 2 feet... and 3-pointers are literally half of Curry's shots.

So that means HALF OF CURRY'S SHOTS are taken with a defender further than 2 feet away.. Don't compare this guy to Maravich..

Why don't you watch some Maravich - you tell me who's shots are more contested (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qv0YS1wHoQ&t=0m22s).
.
Are you by any chance suggesting that Igoudala, Green and Curry all take the same amount of uncontested 3 pointers?

[ArbitraryWater]

Curry was injured. He had a concussion after he fell on his neck end the end of the WCF.

:oldlol:

Curry was just fine

[3ball]

Are you by any chance suggesting that Igoudala, Green and Curry all take the same amount of uncontested 3 pointers?
I'm suggesting that the league average is 0.6% and the Warriors as a team were at 0.7%.... So someone like Curry might be at 1-2%... :applause:

Bottom line - half of Curry's shots are 3-pointers where the defender is further than 2 feet away.. That doesn't compare to Maravich - his shots were far more contested... It's not even close.

Maravich is the easily the better player if you remove the 3-point line.. Again, Curry couldn't average 30 ppg with no 3-point line, or shoot 40%+ from midrange on such high volume, and where the shots are so contested.

[Dro]

I kept saying Lebron. Now I'd have to say Curry...

[sd3035]

I'm suggesting that the league average is 0.6% and the Warriors as a team were at 0.7%.... So someone like Curry might be at 1-2%... :applause:

Bottom line - half of Curry's shots are 3-pointers where the defender is further than 2 feet away.. That doesn't compare to Maravich - his shots were far more contested... It's not even close.

Maravich is the easily the better player if you remove the 3-point line.. Again, Curry couldn't average 30 ppg with no 3-point line, or shoot 40%+ from midrange on such high volume, and where the shots are so contested.

isn't Maravich that dude who could only dribble looking at the floor with one hand?

[iznogood]

I'm suggesting that the league average is 0.6% and the Warriors as a team were at 0.7%.... So someone like Curry might be at 1-2%... :applause:

Bottom line - half of Curry's shots are 3-pointers where the defender is further than 2 feet away.. That doesn't compare to Maravich - his shots were far more contested... It's not even close.

Maravich is the easily the better player if you remove the 3-point line.. Again, Curry couldn't average 30 ppg with no 3-point line, or shoot 40%+ from midrange on such high volume, and where the shots are so contested.
Your first paragraph is complete nonsense, you made the percentage of his contested shots up, just like you made up the number of midrange shots Marvich took.

Your second paragraph is based on your first paragraph, which uses a made up statistic as an argument and is therefore faulty by default.

As for who the better player is when you remove 3 point line, I guess you're the only one here who has seen Curry play without one. :applause: :applause: :applause:

[MP.Trey]

First thread I've seen where 3ball tries to tear down someone not named LeBron. Looks like we have another competitor to MJ's throne or he wouldn't be so shook.

[3ball]

Your first paragraph is complete nonsense, you made the percentage of his contested shots up, just like you made up the number of midrange shots Marvich took.

Your second paragraph is based on your first paragraph, which uses a made up statistic as an argument and is therefore faulty by default.

As for who the better player is when you remove 3 point line, I guess you're the only one here who has seen Curry play without one. :applause: :applause: :applause:
Curry takes a healthy proportion of the Warriors' 3-pointers - and we know for a fact that 0.7% of the Warriors 3-pointers are taken with a defender within 2 feet...

Given this data, Curry's percentage couldn't be more than 1-2%..

If you could do arithmetic, you would know this... But congratulations on being a dumbass.

[iznogood]

Curry takes a healthy proportion of the Warriors' 3-pointers - and we know for a fact that 0.7% of the Warriors 3-pointers are taken with a defender within 2 feet...

Given this data, Curry's percentage couldn't be more than 1-2%..

If you could do arithmetic, you would know this... But congratulations on being a dumbass.
Shut your mouth until you give me the exact stat or show me how did you measure the exact amount of contested 3 pointers he takes, you looser.

Let's also not forget that contested or uncontested doesn't take into account the fact that a shot could be a set shot or a pull up, which Curry takes often and a lot of his shots that are uncontested are uncontested because he's 30 feet out when he takes them while he's miss matched against a big or takes a step back. Contested or uncontested is not the only measurement of shot difficulty.

[24-Inch_Chrome]

First thread I've seen where 3ball tries to tear down someone not named LeBron. Looks like we have another competitor to MJ's throne or he wouldn't be so shook.

Nah, he just targets players when they have elite games/stretches. Tried this shit with Westbrook last season, always talking about how Jordan's streaks were better and how his triple double were more important...typical 3ball bullshit.

[dhsilv]

Shut your mouth until you give me the exact stat or show me how did you measure the exact amount of contested 3 pointers he takes, you looser.

Let's also not forget that contested or uncontested doesn't take into account the fact that a shot could be a set shot or a pull up, which Curry takes often and a lot of his shots that are uncontested are uncontested because he's 30 feet out when he takes them while he's miss matched against a big or takes a step back. Contested or uncontested is not the only measurement of shot difficulty.

Curry was 3-20 last year on "very tight" shots defined as a defender 0-2 feet from the sports vue data. That made up 1.5% of his 3 point attempts.

Now 48.0% of Curry's 3's were defined as tight (2-4 feet). 283 made 634 attempts. 44.6% accuracy.

[PJR]

He's not better than LeBron. Lebron is still just too versatile and impactful on both ends. But after LeBron? Anybody is fair game. I'd take Curry over Durant in a playoff series. Durant may be the bigger mismatch in terms of his size, but Curry's the more dynamic shooter(which is ridiculous to say, cuz Durant is an amazing shooter as well), along with a wicked set of handles, and playmaking ability. Very high impact player.

[SwayDizzle]

Let's be real for a second here. Curry is an amazing player and has potential to become the best but he's not a more complete baller than LJ. We all saw Curry perform on the NBA's biggest stage and he was not particularly impressive. He did not stand out as the best. Also why he did not receive any FMVP votes. Saying Curry is the best now is like saying LJ was the best in 08-09-10 when the level headed fan knows it was Kobe.

[Dr Hawk]

3ball thread: http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=375051

I quote him:
Curry is the only scorer I respect in today's game.. He's ahead of his time with his ability to make CONTESTED 3-pointers like it's mid-range.. That's why he's the best offensive player in today's game, and that's why he'll win his first MVP this season.

[dhsilv]

Let's be real for a second here. Curry is an amazing player and has potential to become the best but he's not a more complete baller than LJ. We all saw Curry perform on the NBA's biggest stage and he was not particularly impressive. He did not stand out as the best. Also why he did not receive any FMVP votes. Saying Curry is the best now is like saying LJ was the best in 08-09-10 when the level headed fan knows it was Kobe.

Nobody thinks Kobe was better from 08-10...

Just like not having a killer finals isn't a legit knock against Curry or his claim to being the best player in the NBA. I'm not sure he's better than harden or Lebron right now, but it has nothing to do with what he did in the finals.

Curry's biggest strength is what he can do to impact the game WITHOUT the ball. For some reason fans spend far too much time worried about what happens with the ball they don't see how others are impacting the ball without having it. We're only starting to get a better understanding of this through statistics like gravity and how players interact as a unit. Sure a well trained eye can see what's going on, but it's hard to quantify. Thankfully we're getting there.

[Jameerthefear]

3ball thread: http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=375051

I quote him:
:roll: :roll:

[ArbitraryWater]

3ball thread: http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=375051

I quote him:

:roll: :roll:

[SwayDizzle]

Nobody thinks Kobe was better from 08-10...

Just like not having a killer finals isn't a legit knock against Curry or his claim to being the best player in the NBA. I'm not sure he's better than harden or Lebron right now, but it has nothing to do with what he did in the finals.

Curry's biggest strength is what he can do to impact the game WITHOUT the ball. For some reason fans spend far too much time worried about what happens with the ball they don't see how others are impacting the ball without having it. We're only starting to get a better understanding of this through statistics like gravity and how players interact as a unit. Sure a well trained eye can see what's going on, but it's hard to quantify. Thankfully we're getting there.
Every unbiased fan would take 08-10 Kobe over 08-10 LJ. That was the closest we have ever seen to MJ level play. And we can all agree MJ is the GOAT. Just like you say a finals performance does not sum up a player (which I agree with to an extent) do you think winning the MVP makes you the best player in the league?

[T_L_P]

3ball thread: http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=375051

I quote him:
:roll: :roll:

[SpecialQue]

Right now he's currently better than Durant's ever been, to be sure.

Don't know if I'd put him on Lebron's level. I certainly like this salsa-dancing piece of shit more than I like Lebron, but it's a close call.

[24-Inch_Chrome]

Every unbiased fan would take 08-10 Kobe over 08-10 LJ. That was the closest we have ever seen to MJ level play. And we can all agree MJ is the GOAT. Just like you say a finals performance does not sum up a player (which I agree with to an extent) do you think winning the MVP makes you the best player in the league?

You're a ****ing Kobe stan and we're supposed to believe that you're an unbiased fan? :roll:

FOH.

[SwayDizzle]

You're a ****ing Kobe stan and we're supposed to believe that you're an unbiased fan? :roll:

FOH.
I'm as unbiased as they come my breh. Ask me who is currently better, Kobe or LJ?

[ArbitraryWater]

Right now he's currently better than Durant's ever been, to be sure.

Don't know if I'd put him on Lebron's level. I certainly like this salsa-dancing piece of shit more than I like Lebron, but it's a close call.

:roll:

[dhsilv]

Every unbiased fan would take 08-10 Kobe over 08-10 LJ. That was the closest we have ever seen to MJ level play. And we can all agree MJ is the GOAT. Just like you say a finals performance does not sum up a player (which I agree with to an extent) do you think winning the MVP makes you the best player in the league?

Lebron is the closest from a pure value add we've seen. Wade in 09 was the closet to MJ I've seen (early MJ) as far as a player comp. 08-10 Kobe while he certainly used the post and fade aways was nothing like MJ.

As for the MVP, clearly not. It's a nice award and the voters generally get it right. Certainly not always but on average they do a pretty good job.

[WorldWarriors]

Realistically its too early to tell. But Steph is certainly headed in that direction.

[DMAVS41]

Right now he's currently better than Durant's ever been, to be sure.

Don't know if I'd put him on Lebron's level. I certainly like this salsa-dancing piece of shit more than I like Lebron, but it's a close call.

Wait...he's for sure better than Durant ever was...what?

What is going on with people?

I have no issue with Curry being the best player in the league. He might be...I'm not sure. He's certainly gotten off to a great start...but come on with this shit.

He is not clearly better than the other elite guys at the top and sure as **** is not "for sure" better than Durant ever was.

Durant in 13 and 14 (over 162 games) was a 30/8/5 64% TS player that probably played slightly better defense than Curry currently does.

Stop the madness please....stop saying Curry is clearly better than some of the best players of all time at their peaks...it's annoying and is taking attention away from him playing out of his mind.

And to be clear...I love Curry. I think he has a legit chance to go down as the 2nd best pg of all time. I honestly believe that given his level of play since he got healthy going into the 13 season.

But the shit has to stop. Saying Curry is "for sure" better than Durant ever was is akin to saying he's "for sure" better than some of the 10 or so best players of all time at their peaks.

Like...is Curry "for sure" better than peak KG now? How far are we going to go with this shit 3 games into a season. I know Curry was great last year...and has been for a few years now, but even if you thought Curry was the best player last year....he was absolutely not "for sure" the best player last season. Harden and Lebron could easily be argued as being better last year than Curry...and WB probably as well.

So please, for the sake of sanity, stop the madness. Or at least give it like 50 games please...

[Fudge]

No, Kevin Durant is.

[Monta Ellis MVP]

Wait...he's for sure better than Durant ever was...what?

What is going on with people?

I have no issue with Curry being the best player in the league. He might be...I'm not sure. He's certainly gotten off to a great start...but come on with this shit.

He is not clearly better than the other elite guys at the top and sure as **** is not "for sure" better than Durant ever was.

Durant in 13 and 14 (over 162 games) was a 30/8/5 64% TS player that probably played slightly better defense than Curry currently does.

Stop the madness please....stop saying Curry is clearly better than some of the best players of all time at their peaks...it's annoying and is taking attention away from him playing out of his mind.

And to be clear...I love Curry. I think he has a legit chance to go down as the 2nd best pg of all time. I honestly believe that given his level of play since he got healthy going into the 13 season.

But the shit has to stop. Saying Curry is "for sure" better than Durant ever was is akin to saying he's "for sure" better than some of the 10 or so best players of all time at their peaks.

Like...is Curry "for sure" better than peak KG now? How far are we going to go with this shit 3 games into a season. I know Curry was great last year...and has been for a few years now, but even if you thought Curry was the best player last year....he was absolutely not "for sure" the best player last season. Harden and Lebron could easily be argued as being better last year than Curry...and WB probably as well.

So please, for the sake of sanity, stop the madness. Or at least give it like 50 games please...

What the hell are you talking about? Did you just write a huge paragraph saying Curry is the best but it is not for sure? What the hell is the matter with you? :lol

[Noob Saibot]

The circle jerking is strong in this thread. :oldlol:

[IGOTGAME]

Wait...he's for sure better than Durant ever was...what?

What is going on with people?

I have no issue with Curry being the best player in the league. He might be...I'm not sure. He's certainly gotten off to a great start...but come on with this shit.

He is not clearly better than the other elite guys at the top and sure as **** is not "for sure" better than Durant ever was.

Durant in 13 and 14 (over 162 games) was a 30/8/5 64% TS player that probably played slightly better defense than Curry currently does.

Stop the madness please....stop saying Curry is clearly better than some of the best players of all time at their peaks...it's annoying and is taking attention away from him playing out of his mind.

And to be clear...I love Curry. I think he has a legit chance to go down as the 2nd best pg of all time. I honestly believe that given his level of play since he got healthy going into the 13 season.

But the shit has to stop. Saying Curry is "for sure" better than Durant ever was is akin to saying he's "for sure" better than some of the 10 or so best players of all time at their peaks.

Like...is Curry "for sure" better than peak KG now? How far are we going to go with this shit 3 games into a season. I know Curry was great last year...and has been for a few years now, but even if you thought Curry was the best player last year....he was absolutely not "for sure" the best player last season. Harden and Lebron could easily be argued as being better last year than Curry...and WB probably as well.

So please, for the sake of sanity, stop the madness. Or at least give it like 50 games please...

You just don't get it. It's not an exaggeration, he is that good

[Marchesk]

You just don't get it. It's not an exaggeration, he is that good

Dude just passed PEAK finals Shaq this last game.

[LakersForlife]

NO. Who ever is Kobes mentoring in La will be. maybe in the second half of the season we will see the super superstar that kobe teached and take over the league

[Rocketswin2013]

Curry will be the third most polarizing player in ISH history if he keeps this stuff up.

[SugarHill]

Right now he's currently better than Durant's ever been, to be sure.

Don't know if I'd put him on Lebron's level. I certainly like this salsa-dancing piece of shit more than I like Lebron, but it's a close call.
:biggums:

[iTare]

Right now he's currently better than Durant's ever been, to be sure.

Don't know if I'd put him on Lebron's level. I certainly like this salsa-dancing piece of shit more than I like Lebron, but it's a close call.
You're god damn stupid.

[DMAVS41]

What the hell are you talking about? Did you just write a huge paragraph saying Curry is the best but it is not for sure? What the hell is the matter with you? :lol

Honestly it's pointless...clearly you don't understand.

[DMAVS41]

You just don't get it. It's not an exaggeration, he is that good

No, he isn't...he is not ****ing "for sure" better than Durant was in 13 and 14.

You guys are just either really stupid or trolling...sorry

[GIF REACTION]

Zero Votes Curry

Dude got ****ing schooled by Lebron in the finals

Why are we even having this conversation

[inclinerator]

in the regular season maybe

[SpecialQue]

You're god damn stupid.

Fvck you and fvck KD. KD's the most overrated "star" player of all time. Half of his fvcking points ain't even legit. He's only slightly less annoying to watch than Harden.

[IGOTGAME]

No, he isn't...he is not ****ing "for sure" better than Durant was in 13 and 14.

You guys are just either really stupid or trolling...sorry

Steph is currently playing at above any version of Kobe, Durant, Magic or Lebron. That's Hat is happening. I used to not understand Currys game and I hated on it, I spent the summer reevaluating my outlook on him and I was dead wrong. He is the truth.

[GIF REACTION]

Steph is currently playing at above any version of Kobe, Durant, Magic or Lebron. That's Hat is happening. I used to not understand Currys game and I hated on it, I spent the summer reevaluating my outlook on him and I was dead wrong. He is the truth.
Lebron averaged pretty much similar numbers to current curry, in the playoffs for 14 odd games in 2009

[Cold soul]

Steph is currently playing at above any version of Kobe, Durant, Magic or Lebron. That's Hat is happening. I used to not understand Currys game and I hated on it, I spent the summer reevaluating my outlook on him and I was dead wrong. He is the truth.

Oh my god.... Really above Magic, Kobe, and Lebron wow. Please stop trolling thanks and if you actually believe this well you're an idiot.

http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Christian-Bale-Laughing-at-Awards-Show.gif

[chips93]

Fvck you and fvck KD. KD's the most overrated "star" player of all time. Half of his fvcking points ain't even legit. He's only slightly less annoying to watch than Harden.

they stopped giving him that bullshit sweep through move years ago. his free throws are legit these days

[chips93]

Steph is currently playing at above any version of Kobe, Durant, Magic or Lebron. That's Hat is happening. I used to not understand Currys game and I hated on it, I spent the summer reevaluating my outlook on him and I was dead wrong. He is the truth.

what changed your mind? what do you think different now?

[Cold soul]

what changed your mind? what do you think different now?

You actually believe this shit coming out of his mouth. I'm pretty sure he is trolling for shock value.

[SpecialQue]

they stopped giving him that bullshit sweep through move years ago. his free throws are legit these days

To be fair, I don't watch him much any more and have just been running on the hate I've had for him for the past few years. When I do catch a Thunder game I'm just watching for Westbrook, whose production is always iffy as shit.

[DMAVS41]

Steph is currently playing at above any version of Kobe, Durant, Magic or Lebron. That's Hat is happening. I used to not understand Currys game and I hated on it, I spent the summer reevaluating my outlook on him and I was dead wrong. He is the truth.

Please stop....please

You realize he can be one of the best players of all time..like top 8 all time and your above statement is still laughable...right?

There is no way you actually watched players like Hakeem or Magic or Bird if you think Curry is a level above those guys.

I'm sorry....this is probably the single dumbest thing I've heard on here...and that is saying something

A place that has argued that the Cavs were better with Delly than Kyrie
A place that has argued the only difference between Dirk and Frye is jump shooting
A place that was saying a lot of the things above about Derrick ****ing Rose back in 11

Just stop...

[Rocketswin2013]

they stopped giving him that bullshit sweep through move years ago. his free throws are legit these days
They still give him that shoulder bump bullshit when he slashes and pulls up off-balance on one foot from the FT line though.

[Monta Ellis MVP]

DMAVS is the worst poster. :roll:

[DMAVS41]

DMAVS is the worst poster. :roll:


July 2015 join date....:cheers:

[Uncle Drew]

ISH, where Curry is better than peak Magic.

[SpecialQue]

July 2015 join date....:cheers:

DMAVS is a terrible poster.

[SugarHill]

IGOTGAME's hate for Curry is hilarious af

[24-Inch_Chrome]

July 2015 join date....:cheers:

It's just another one of Buda's alts. :oldlol:

[Monta Ellis MVP]

It's just another one of Buda's alts. :oldlol:

rent free

[Fudge]

The best player in the world is Kevin.

Kevin.

Wayne.

Durant.

Deal with it, you ugly blokes.

[DMAVS41]

ISH, where Curry is better than peak Magic.

I think it might be time to let the new breed just have their day...

Any semblance of nuance, reason, logic, or legit conversation is long done I guess...

Sad...

[GIF REACTION]

budadiii is a virgin loser

[IGOTGAME]

I think it might be time to let the new breed just have their day...

Any semblance of nuance, reason, logic, or legit conversation is long done I guess...

Sad...

Ok grandpa. I've watched a ton of Hakeem and Magic and Larry. You are just stuck in the old school but Curry is new school.

Take a step back and realize im talking about individual seasons and peaks, not career. Curry is the good, watch the tape.

[chips93]

Ok grandpa. I've watched a ton of Hakeem and Magic and Larry. You are just stuck in the old school but Curry is new school.

Take a step back and realize im talking about individual seasons and peaks, not career. Curry is the good, watch the tape.

why dont you tell us what you see, instead of just insulting people for having an opinion that you held merely months ago

[Uncle Drew]

:oldlol:

IGOTGAME not too long ago:
''Curry is overrated. He's not that good. Peak Mugsy Bogues over Curry!''

IGOTGAME now:
''Better than peak Magic and Bird!''

Hilarious.

[Legends66NBA7]

IGOTGAME's hate for Curry is hilarious af

Recent comments probably all come from Real GM too.

[IGOTGAME]

why dont you tell us what you see, instead of just insulting people for having an opinion that you held merely months ago

I never insulted you...and only responded in the same tone that he presented. I've gone through my logic in about 3 threads. before I thought he wasn't a good enough point guard to run a team but know I realize it doesn't matter. He doesn't even have to pay point guard and it doesn't matter...the game has changed. Conventional wisdom says that no one shots that good to be able to win on those shots all year...I grew up believing that but Curry is a freak and the exception to the rule, just like other freak generational talents.

Also, he is def better than Durant ever was. The other stuff was just to **** with DMAVS because he sounds like he is gonna have a heart attack. But it's a legit question to ask...I don't think the other guys are out of his league (but I tank magic and Larry lower than most)

I've changed my opinion. I've seen the light.

[Marchesk]

Also, he is def better than Durant ever was.

Some days I hate ISH. :facepalm

[Monta Ellis MVP]

:oldlol:

IGOTGAME not too long ago:
''Curry is overrated. He's not that good. Peak Mugsy Bogues over Curry!''

IGOTGAME now:
''Better than peak Magic and Bird!''

Hilarious.

Curry made him a believer. He is the truth.

[DMAVS41]

I never insulted you...and only responded in the same tone that he presented. I've gone through my logic in about 3 threads. before I thought he wasn't a good enough point guard to run a team but know I realize it doesn't matter. He doesn't even have to pay point guard and it doesn't matter...the game has changed. Conventional wisdom says that no one shots that good to be able to win on those shots all year...I grew up believing that but Curry is a freak and the exception to the rule, just like other freak generational talents.

Also, he is def better than Durant ever was. The other stuff was just to **** with DMAVS because he sounds like he is gonna have a heart attack. But it's a legit question to ask...I don't think the other guys are out of his league (but I tank magic and Larry lower than most)

I've changed my opinion. I've seen the light.

You are simply ignorant to basketball history. Simple as that.

[WorldWarriors]

Damn wrong thread again.

[IGOTGAME]

You are simply ignorant to basketball history. Simple as that.

Calm down. You seem mad...

[Heavincent]

You are simply ignorant to basketball history. Simple as that.

He's not serious. He hates Curry and is being sarcastic.

Watch, Curry will have one subpar game and he'll go back to saying he's overrated.

[juju151111]

Wait...he's for sure better than Durant ever was...what?

What is going on with people?

I have no issue with Curry being the best player in the league. He might be...I'm not sure. He's certainly gotten off to a great start...but come on with this shit.

He is not clearly better than the other elite guys at the top and sure as **** is not "for sure" better than Durant ever was.

Durant in 13 and 14 (over 162 games) was a 30/8/5 64% TS player that probably played slightly better defense than Curry currently does.

Stop the madness please....stop saying Curry is clearly better than some of the best players of all time at their peaks...it's annoying and is taking attention away from him playing out of his mind.

And to be clear...I love Curry. I think he has a legit chance to go down as the 2nd best pg of all time. I honestly believe that given his level of play since he got healthy going into the 13 season.

But the shit has to stop. Saying Curry is "for sure" better than Durant ever was is akin to saying he's "for sure" better than some of the 10 or so best players of all time at their peaks.

Like...is Curry "for sure" better than peak KG now? How far are we going to go with this shit 3 games into a season. I know Curry was great last year...and has been for a few years now, but even if you thought Curry was the best player last year....he was absolutely not "for sure" the best player last season. Harden and Lebron could easily be argued as being better last year than Curry...and WB probably as well.

So please, for the sake of sanity, stop the madness. Or at least give it like 50 games please...
Agreed, i think Curry would of done it sooner if it wasn't for his ankle injuries. It basically slowed his growth two years. He was rehabbing and stressed out because it was a recurring injury. He has always been a gym rat. Since he got healthy in 13 he blow Ray allen record like noting and has beating his own record every year. His talent is immense.

[zizozain]

Calm down. You seem mad...
he is mad, his hero Le2/6 is not even in top 3 this year

[STATUTORY]

Well Kobe is still injured

[knicksman]

until durant learns to create for himself, he will be never be on currys level. The problem with durant is hes a tweener. Too tall to be a slasher and too thin to be a post player. Thats why you can stop him with just a cp3. And worse is hes a quitter. The guy just isnt a winner.

[knicksman]

And LeBron was in perfect health?

Everyone is injured by that time of the year.

Curry was playing just fine in the Finals. He won, led his team in scoring and had a very good case for FMVP. Yes, he was playing a bit below standard in the beginning, but it had nothing to do with injury... he was his usual Curry self by the middle of the series...

That usual Curry self happens to be not quite as good as LeBron - which doesn't take away anything from him.

maybe because lebron is getting single coverage while curry is getting doubled despite playing off ball. Just look at houston when curry gets guarded like bran

[Mr. Jabbar]

until durant learns to create for himself, he will be never be on currys level. The problem with durant is hes a tweener. Too tall to be a slasher and too thin to be a post player. Thats why you can stop him with just a cp3. And worse is hes a quitter. The guy just isnt a winner.

kevin "pencil di.ck" durant can never create for himself. that requires THICKNESS