GSW offense looks average without Curry

[juju151111]

What a joke a team.

[BIG FURB]

Well, they did give him that mvp award for a reason last year

[Foster5k]

I still can't believe this guy didn't win Finals MVP. Lmao. That was a joke.

[JerrySeinfeld]

I still can't believe this guy didn't win Finals MVP. Lmao. That was a joke.

Andre Iguodala won it for the work he did vs LeBron, who stole the remainder of the votes from Curry :oldlol: :roll:

The media is retarded as **** and any awards they vote on are pointless

[Thesmallmamba]

Honestly they should build their offense around Iggy, their best player

[Rocketswin2013]

And the defense looks about WOAT without Igoudola and Green out there.

[Naero]

Do people really question the league-second-best (next to Chris Paul) Point Guard's impact on his team?

In the only two games the 2015 MVP missed, the Warriors lost; those losses came against the then-lowly Pacers and Nuggets—both teams which they trounced over when Curry was serviceable.

That being said, it's not just Curry's absence that's causative of this blowout; it's also the fact that the two lead coaches from last season—Steve Kerr and Alvin Gentry—aren't at the helm. It's easy to underestimate one of the more nuanced impacts in the coach's role; that's why their impact resonates the best when you see the differential without them aboard, and it's also why I posted my speculatory topic begging the question as to whether or not the Warriors will clinch HCA-seeding in the playoffs depending on how much time Kerr misses.

[juju151111]

Honestly they should build their offense around Iggy, their best player
Curry offensive rating was absurd last year like 116

[LoneyROY7]

And the defense looks about WOAT without Igoudola and Green out there.

Draymond is playing. He's just getting b*tched by Blake.

[Rocketswin2013]

Draymond is playing. He's just getting b*tched by Blake.
Yeah brain fart. meant to say Bogut.

[juju151111]

[QUOTE=Naero]Do people really question the league-second-best (next to Chris Paul) Point Guard's impact on his team?

In the only two games the 2015 MVP missed, the Warriors lost; those losses came against the then-lowly Pacers and Nuggets

[TrueBlue89]

And the Warriors blew out the Rockets without Harden the other day. Who cares it's pre-season:facepalm

[Pushxx]

That joke of a team won a championship. Saltyy

[DaOldLion]

Andre Iguodala won it for the work he did vs LeBron, who stole the remainder of the votes from Curry :oldlol: :roll:

The media is retarded as **** and any awards they vote on are pointless

yeah that made absolutly no sense.

If Iggy gets his votes based off his defense on lebron, then lebron shouldn't get any votes. And if Lebron got half the votes based off his offense, then Iggy should have received zero votes.

If anything the voting should have been the same is was just with Curry in place of Iggy, or with those three sharing all votes.

IMO the media knows that the narrative of "Steph Curry is the best player in the world" isn't as profitable as maintaining their constant hyping of Lebron (who in reality has a smaller window than ever, on a stacked team so it makes a good story) Lebron is so much more marketable at this point.

Going off the voting logic Curry should have been FMVP.., because if Iggy's defense on Lebron was good enough to win FMVP yet at the same time Lebron was so good that he also had a claim at FMVP.. then how does the leading the winning team in scoring (by a 10pt margin) and assist assist get 0 votes :hammerhead: :oldlol:

Curry by 26 was MVP and leading his team to the championship, he's on a great team and has a long way to go before his career is over, he'll have shots at other championships too, these next few years will be very interesting, if Curry becomes an all time great then in retrospect we might look back at Curry receiving zero votes for FMVP while leading his team in scoring and assist and realize how ridiculous that was.

[1987_Lakers]

It's amazing what winning a title will do, early last season the Warriors were the likable up and coming team that everyone seemed to enjoy, you didn't see a single person trashing this team, once the postseason came and people realized they were contenders and they ended up winning a title the haters came like crazy.

[Rocketswin2013]

yeah that made absolutly no sense.

If Iggy gets his votes based off his defense on lebron, then lebron shouldn't get any votes. And if Lebron got half the votes based off his offense, then Iggy should have received zero votes.

If anything the voting should have been the same is was just with Curry in place of Iggy, or with those three sharing all votes.

IMO the media knows that the narrative of "Steph Curry is the best player in the world" isn't as profitable as maintaining their constant hyping of Lebron (who in reality has a smaller window than ever, on a stacked team so it makes a good story) Lebron is so much more marketable at this point.

Going off the voting logic Curry should have been FMVP.., because if Iggy's defense on Lebron was good enough to win FMVP yet at the same time Lebron was so good that he also had a claim at FMVP.. then how does the leading the winning team in scoring (by a 10pt margin) and assist assist get 0 votes :hammerhead: :oldlol:

Curry by 26 was MVP and leading his team to the championship, he's on a great team and has a long way to go before his career is over, he'll have shots at other championships too, these next few years will be very interesting, if Curry becomes an all time great then in retrospect we might look back at Curry receiving zero votes for FMVP while leading his team in scoring and assist and realize how ridiculous that was.
If you think things were that simple you simply don't understand basketball beyond a rudimentary level.

[DaOldLion]

If you think things were that simple you simply don't understand basketball beyond a rudimentary level.

why did Iggy win FMVP? If your answer is his defense on Lebron, then how does Lebron take the rest of the votes and vise versa while they guy who received 0 votes led the winning team in scoring and assist and came up huge time and time again..?

[Rocketswin2013]

why did Iggy win FMVP? If your answer is his defense on Lebron, then how does Lebron take the rest of the votes and vise versa while they guy who received 0 votes led the winning team in scoring and assist and came up huge time and time again..?
I don't even agree with it. But Igoudola did slow his iso scoring down, especially as the series progressed.

LeBron controlled the entire series the first few games with a ridiculous motor in slashing which created everything, defense, and pace-control which disrupted GS's offense.

LeBron also had great leadership. The team fed off his intensity in calling them out for blown rotations on D, and just his overall effort. That team played so ****ing hard, out hustled GS. Never seen anything like it.

Eventually GS went small, and the pace factor started to change because they had more ball handlers and quickness, which allowed them to get in transition and light Cleveland up.

This is why Mozgov scoring 28 was such fools gold. Guy couldn't guard anyone out there. He couldn't keep up with GS. They were pushing thr pace even after makes. His trapping was also atrocious. I had a semi-meltdown over it in the game thread.

Add LeBron being exhausted into the mix and Cleveland got outclassed at the end.

If Shumpert makes that shot at the buzzer in G1 Cleveland would've won the title. They could've been up 3-0, quit in the G4 to conserve energy and make one last push in G5 to win the title. At least v that's the only way I could see them winning with the adjustments Kerr made.

Either way, I would've given LeBron or Curry FMVP. Igoudola was left wide open to expose his lack of shooting. Guy wasn't being defended. I don't think he was worth that much.

[I<3NBA]

it's not that hard to explain. without Iggy, GS woulda lost because Lebron woulda ate them alive without Iggy to defend him.

so Iggy = FMVP

it's much harder to explain Kawhi's. because from my perspective, even without Kawhi, that Spurs team was unstoppable.

[Foster5k]

it's not that hard to explain. without Iggy, GS woulda lost because Lebron woulda ate them alive without Iggy to defend him.

so Iggy = FMVP

same story with Kawhi.
:oldlol: :roll:

[bdreason]

Iggy winning the award was like giving the entire team the award. Same goes for Leonard the year before. The league has been trying to promote teams over superstars the last couple years, which is a different marketing angle for them, but an angle that is needed in case say... 3 of the league's top superstars decide to join one team.

[All Net]

What a joke a team.
It's a joke you would even make this stupid topic

It's freaking pre season

[Akhenaten]

it's not that hard to explain. without Iggy, GS woulda lost

They wouldn't have even won a game without Steph, MAYBE, MAYBE they steal one at home. They are much more likely to win without iggy than without Curry.

In fact without iggy they would still be the favourites, they NO chance without Curry...NONE.


Btw LeBron was shooting like crap even when he wasn't being guarded by iggy, he shot like watery crap with iggy on him.

[ronnymac]

And the Warriors blew out the Rockets without Harden the other day. Who cares it's pre-season:facepalm
You meant without Harden, Ty lawson,Trevor Ariza, Dwight Howard , Marcus Thornton, Jason Terry, Clint Capella and Donta Montijunes That is 8 rotational players and 4 starters missing.

[DavisIsMyUniBro]

They statistically have a bottom 5 offense with curry off the floor.
Underrated asf

[juju151111]

It's a joke you would even make this stupid topic

It's freaking pre season
What does Preseason have to do with GS horrible offense without Curry

[All Net]

What does Preseason have to do with GS horrible offense without Curry
Is this a serious question? If they don't have their main rotation playing how does it have any relevance ? The fact GS don't even have their coach right now either plays a big factor in everything they do offensively and defensively.

If the Warriors offense was such an issue without curry he certainly wouldn't of averaged only 32 mins per game last season.

[juju151111]

Is this a serious question? If they don't have their main rotation playing how does it have any relevance ? The fact GS don't even have their coach right now either plays a big factor in everything they do offensively and defensively.

If the Warriors offense was such an issue without curry he certainly wouldn't of averaged only 32 mins per game last season.
Because they blow out teams. He had the highest offensive rating in the league.

[!@#$%Vectors!@#]

AMC ::rockon: :rockon:

[alanLA92]

Iggy winning the award was like giving the entire team the award. Same goes for Leonard the year before. The league has been trying to promote teams over superstars the last couple years, which is a different marketing angle for them, but an angle that is needed in case say... 3 of the league's top superstars decide to join one team.

But that would never happen. I mean what kind of BS would that be.