Make an argument that LeBron had help in 2007, 2013, 2014, 2015

[dubeta]

Convince me LeBron had any semblance of help in the Finals of those years


GO

[ISHGoat]

Convince me LeBron had any semblance of help in the Finals of those years


GO

kobe stans:

but but but he had 2 other all stars on his team doe!!

dwade top 25 player of all time, pau top 90 player of all time doe!!!!!


yeah, lets just ignore how his supposed "top 25 player of all time" played.

[dubeta]

kobe stans:

but but but he had 2 other all stars on his team doe!!

dwade top 25 player of all time, pau top 90 player of all time doe!!!!!


yeah, lets just ignore how his supposed "top 25 player of all time" played.

Top 25 player Wade was a no show :lol


He had like 1 good finals games from 2012-2014 and 2 'passable' ones. People shit on LeBrons 2011 but:


2012-2014 Wade was basically 2011 LeBron every finals


How come LeBron can win with Wade playing poorly, but Wade can't win with LeBron playing poorly? Thought of the day

[Showtime2001]

2/6.

[kennethgriffin]

if lebron never belonged in the finals and we cant count his finals losses

then why do we bother counting the few times he's won

if its a fluke to be there in the first place. then its obviously a fluke if he gets lucky and wins



so hes either a legit 1.5 for 6

or hes 0 for 0


take your pick f*ggot

[ISHGoat]

if lebron never belonged in the finals and we cant count his finals losses

then why do we bother counting the few times he's won

if its a fluke to be there in the first place. then its obviously a fluke if he gets lucky and wins



so hes either a legit 1.5 for 6

or hes 0 for 0


take your pick f*ggot


kobe is a legit -1/7 because he gets 0 rings for the shaq carries, 0.5 for the gasol carries, and -1 for each time he sabotoged (2004, 2008)

-1/7

[dubeta]

if lebron never belonged in the finals and we cant count his finals losses

then why do we bother counting the few times he's won

if its a fluke to be there in the first place. then its obviously a fluke if he gets lucky and wins



so hes either a legit 1.5 for 6

or hes 0 for 0


take your pick f*ggot




Good point


Only years he belonged in the Finals was in 2012-2013


Rest of the time he didn't belong so wins don't count because it's a fluke, and likewise with loses, since he didn't belong



So he's 2/2 :applause:

[kennethgriffin]

kobe is a legit -1/7 because he gets 0 rings for the shaq carries, 0.5 for the gasol carries, and -1 for each time he sabotoged (2004, 2008)

-1/7

if we're discounting players for having team mates. then nobody has any rings period

notice i gave lebron full credit for a ring in 2013 even though

a) he colluded
b) he ring chased
c) he got bailed out
d) he had wade
e) he had bosh
f) he had ray ray


i still gave him 1.0 for that ring

notice that? see how forgiving i am




all i did was simply give an asterisk for an altered season under a factual lockout



deal with it

:lol

[20Four]

Good point


Only years he belonged in the Finals was in 2012-2013


Rest of the time he didn't belong so wins don't count because it's a fluke, and likewise with loses, since he didn't belong



So he's 2/2 :applause:
and kobe is 5/5 LOL you stay losing in here and in real life, no go shine my fvcking shoes you peasant

[kennethgriffin]

Good point


Only years he belonged in the Finals was in 2012-2013


Rest of the time he didn't belong so wins don't count because it's a fluke, and likewise with loses, since he didn't belong



So he's 2/2 :applause:


1.5 for 6

or 0 for 0


take your pick

[dubeta]

and kobe is 5/5 LOL you stay losing in here and in real life, no go shine my fvcking shoes you peasant

Retard alert :oldlol:


Kobe belonged only in 2004 and 2008, that was the only time his supporting cast was good enough to win.

So he's 0/2 :lol

[ISHGoat]

1.5 for 6

or 0 for 0


take your pick

-1/7

[20Four]

Retard alert :oldlol:


Kobe belonged only in 2004 and 2008, that was the only time his supporting cast was good enough to win.

So he's 0/2 :lol
:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

[kennethgriffin]

if we're really gonna make a prestige ranking for each ring



Lebron 2012
start with 1.0
-0.5 Lockout
-0.1 collude
-0.1 ring chase
-0.1 prime HOF team mate
-0.1 prime HOF team mate
-0.1 free trip from east

0.0 ring


lebron 2013
start with 1.0
-0.1 collude
-0.1 ring chase
-0.1 prime HOF team mate
-0.1 prime HOF team mate
-0.1 bail out 3 to save the season
-0.1 free trip from east

total prestige = 0.4 ring


career total = 0.4 out of 6





kobe 2000

-0.1 HOF teammate

0.9 ring

kobe 2001

-0.1 HOF teammate

0.9 ring

kobe 2002

-0.1 HOF teammate

0.9 ring

kobe 2009

-0.1 HOF teammate

0.9 ring

kobe 2010

-0.1 HOF teammate

0.9 ring


career total = 4.5 out of 7




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[ThePhantomCreep]

Spin it however you want, LeBron's teams were supremely stacked from 2011-2014 and he was one Ray Allen three from going 1-4 in the Finals. 2-2 is not that great a haul.

Next year he will have an embarrassment of riches again, while playing in an extremely crappy conference. He has to win just to break even.

[dubeta]

Kobe fans IIT

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[20Four]

Kobe fans IIT

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nah thats you because you know your husband plays in a weak conference, joins WADES team just to win his first championship and hes still 2/6....damn...it must suck for you

[Showtime2001]

Huge LeBron fan here but 5/7 > 2/6.

[kennethgriffin]

Spin it however you want, LeBron's teams were supremely stacked from 2011-2014 and he was one Ray Allen three from going 1-4 in the Finals. 2-2 is not that great a haul.

Next year he will have an embarrassment of riches again, while playing in an extremely crappy conference. He has to win just to break even.

3 for 7



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