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You Cant Ban Me
08-16-2015, 08:51 AM
I want to read this

monkeypox
08-16-2015, 09:25 AM
The only connection was that Jordan had to testify once in a trial against a known criminal because he had a cancelled check from Jordan. People just jumped to conclusions, there was no direct connection from that criminal and the guys that shot Jordan's dad. The more interesting fact is that while interrogating the two kids that killed his dad, they asked if they killed him because he tried to molest them because he was known to be a pedo. It was considered just an interrogation tactic at the time. Years later Jordan's sister revealed that their father had molested her as a child.

That's the scuttlebutt and very specious reasoning behind the death of Mr. Jordan, which was likely just a random robbery gone bad.

Gileraracer
08-17-2015, 03:22 AM
Usually LeBald stans can tell you that story

kennethgriffin
08-17-2015, 03:27 AM
too coincidental that his father was robbed for his sons championship rings on the side of the road in the middle of the night


he was "sleeping" my ass


his son was late on paying his gambling debts. the mob put a hit out on his family to collect...


no strings attached. hired goons

You Cant Ban Me
08-17-2015, 03:47 AM
too coincidental that his father was robbed for his sons championship rings on the side of the road in the middle of the night


he was "sleeping" my ass


his son was late on paying his gambling debts. the mob put a hit out on his family to collect...


no strings attached. hired goons
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man i love this site

triangleoffense
08-17-2015, 03:50 AM
This one is definitely fake.. why the hell would Jordan be late paying a debt and also why would the Mob do that to a public figure. GTFO

kennethgriffin
08-17-2015, 04:42 AM
This one is definitely fake.. why the hell would Jordan be late paying a debt and also why would the Mob do that to a public figure. GTFO


jordan was known for gambling millions


1985-86 Chicago Bulls NBA $630,000
1987-88 Chicago Bulls NBA $845,000
1988-89 Chicago Bulls NBA $2,000,000
1990-91 Chicago Bulls NBA $2,500,000
1991-92 Chicago Bulls NBA $3,250,000
1992-93 Chicago Bulls NBA $4,000,000


after taxes his total nba career earnings woulda been around 7 million dollars. half of that woulda been gone just from buying houses/cars etc..

he probably only had a few million in the bank

this was also before jordan brand went independent from nike

he might have been making a few million a year from selling shoes



jordan didnt start getting paid till like 1996...

AnaheimLakers24
08-17-2015, 08:19 AM
Hes not dead. Him and brons dad bailed together

chocolatethunder
08-17-2015, 08:22 AM
jordan was known for gambling millions


1985-86 Chicago Bulls NBA $630,000
1987-88 Chicago Bulls NBA $845,000
1988-89 Chicago Bulls NBA $2,000,000
1990-91 Chicago Bulls NBA $2,500,000
1991-92 Chicago Bulls NBA $3,250,000
1992-93 Chicago Bulls NBA $4,000,000


after taxes his total nba career earnings woulda been around 7 million dollars. half of that woulda been gone just from buying houses/cars etc..

he probably only had a few million in the bank

this was also before jordan brand went independent from nike

he might have been making a few million a year from selling shoes



jordan didnt start getting paid till like 1996...
He was making tens of millions per year in endorsements by 1990. He was making much more off of endorsements than he was off of basketball. He is the most marketed and most marketable basketball player ever by far and there's not even a close second. So unfortunately for you, your "breakdown" of his earnings is so far off its a joke. For the 1991-92 season he made about $20 million in endorsements. You need to do more "research" before you speak so you don't look like a fool.

http://www.nba.com/jordan/hoop_phenomenon.html

Cocaine80s
08-17-2015, 04:02 PM
The only connection was that Jordan had to testify once in a trial against a known criminal because he had a cancelled check from Jordan. People just jumped to conclusions, there was no direct connection from that criminal and the guys that shot Jordan's dad. The more interesting fact is that while interrogating the two kids that killed his dad, they asked if they killed him because he tried to molest them because he was known to be a pedo. It was considered just an interrogation tactic at the time. Years later Jordan's sister revealed that their father had molested her as a child.

That's the scuttlebutt and very specious reasoning behind the death of Mr. Jordan, which was likely just a random robbery gone bad.
No wonder MJ turned out to be such an asshole

bond10
08-17-2015, 04:19 PM
He was making tens of millions per year in endorsements by 1990. He was making much more off of endorsements than he was off of basketball. He is the most marketed and most marketable basketball player ever by far and there's not even a close second. So unfortunately for you, your "breakdown" of his earnings is so far off its a joke. For the 1991-92 season he made about $20 million in endorsements. You need to do more "research" before you speak so you don't look like a fool.

http://www.nba.com/jordan/hoop_phenomenon.html


:applause:

More ether than Moltres.

OldSchoolBBall
08-17-2015, 04:26 PM
jordan was known for gambling millions


1985-86 Chicago Bulls NBA $630,000
1987-88 Chicago Bulls NBA $845,000
1988-89 Chicago Bulls NBA $2,000,000
1990-91 Chicago Bulls NBA $2,500,000
1991-92 Chicago Bulls NBA $3,250,000
1992-93 Chicago Bulls NBA $4,000,000


after taxes his total nba career earnings woulda been around 7 million dollars. half of that woulda been gone just from buying houses/cars etc..

he probably only had a few million in the bank

this was also before jordan brand went independent from nike

he might have been making a few million a year from selling shoes



jordan didnt start getting paid till like 1996...

Jordan was making like $20M+/yr in endorsements as early as 1990.

HurricaneKid
08-17-2015, 04:29 PM
I want to read this

Google Richard Esquinas. Jordan is a lengendary gambler, and WELCHER of debts. Richard Esquinas was owed 250k by MJ and was never paid. So he wrote a book about it. MJ has been dragged into court because he had written checks (for >100k) to known bad guys.

Given his penchant for big time gambling and refusal to pay, a lot of people thought the "random" nature of his dad's murder was suspicious.

A great many people also believe that Stern suspended MJ for those 2 years because of his issues with gambling.

KNOW1EDGE
08-17-2015, 04:45 PM
I don't see how Jordan ever had "issues with gambling"?

Like, what was the issue?

Did he run out of money? No.

Did he get suspended from the NBA? No.

Did his wife leave him? No.

Did he lose how house, car, job etc etc? No.

What's the issue?

LoneyROY7
08-17-2015, 04:53 PM
Kenny getting butchered. :oldlol:

Dro
08-17-2015, 04:56 PM
too coincidental that his father was robbed for his sons championship rings on the side of the road in the middle of the night


he was "sleeping" my ass


his son was late on paying his gambling debts. the mob put a hit out on his family to collect...


no strings attached. hired goons
You know, you should probably be banned just for all your trolling but this is just ridiculous. You really shouldn't go running around spreading BS just because you love Kobe, seriously...

Now this is off topic and I don't claim to know this at all but Jordan was filthy rich, had deals from the Bulls, Nike, Gatorade and thats just to name a few..

Hey Yo
08-17-2015, 04:57 PM
I don't see how Jordan ever had "issues with gambling"?

Like, what was the issue?

Did he run out of money? No.

What's the issue?
He lost more often than he won, regardless of what he bet on. When you have a person wanting to win at all costs (like cheating in cards against a teammates grandmother) then you know you've got a problem.

Habitual gamblers don't like to pay up when they lose. They either try to talk winning person into betting again on the same thing to try to win his money back or keep losing over and over again by going double or nothing until huge debt has been build up.

sdot_thadon
08-17-2015, 04:59 PM
I don't see how Jordan ever had "issues with gambling"?

Like, what was the issue?

Did he run out of money? No.

What's the issue?
Right, I don't ever think it really had much to do with money. It was more it being coupled with his competitive spirit seen as an unhealthy thing. I'm sure the nba was scared shitless of a Pete rose scenario, which with all the wispers of secret suspension could have happened for all we know. Urban Legend until.someone gets old enough and writes a book I guess.

KNOW1EDGE
08-17-2015, 05:03 PM
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He lost more often than he won, regardless of what he bet on. When you have a person wanting to win at all costs (like cheating in cards against a teammates grandmother) then you know you've got a problem.

Habitual gamblers don't like to pay up when they lose. They either try to talk winning person into betting again on the same thing to try to win his money back or keep losing over and over again by going double or nothing until huge debt has been build up.

But what's the issue or problem with Jordan gambling?

I know about habitual gamblers and their issues. I'm talking about Jordan and his specific issues that seem to be non-existent

Was money an issue for Jordan? No.

Was debt an issue? No.

What was the issue?

sdot_thadon
08-17-2015, 05:09 PM
:

But what's the issue or problem with Jordan gambling?

I know about habitual gamblers and their issues. I'm talking about Jordan and his specific issues that seem to be non-existent

Was money an issue for Jordan? No.

Was debt an issue? No.

What was the issue?
Pete Rose

KNOW1EDGE
08-17-2015, 05:12 PM
Pete Rose

Pete Rose was Michael Jordan's issue with gambling?

Or do you mean, other people had an issue with Jordans gambling, and that issue was the fear that he would follow Rose's footsteps and cheat?

So now it becomes clear.

Michael Jordan had no issues with gambling

OTHER PEOPLE had issues with Jordan gambling.

Mystery solved

sdot_thadon
08-17-2015, 05:18 PM
Pete Rose was Michael Jordan's issue with gambling?

Or do you mean, other people had an issue with Jordans gambling, and that issue was the fear that he would follow Rose's footsteps and cheat?

So now it becomes clear.

Michael Jordan had no issues with gambling

OTHER PEOPLE had issues with Jordan gambling.

Mystery solved
The nba and the media had a problem with a person of his stature having those type of habits. He was probably the only athlete on that pedestal at the time, a huge role model and the face of the league. The nba didn't want the negative press.

oarabbus
08-17-2015, 05:19 PM
OP... the pic of high Gerald/Shumpert eating the pizza is straight outta Hey Arnold? No one photoshopped it?

Hey Yo
08-17-2015, 05:20 PM
:

But what's the issue or problem with Jordan gambling?

I know about habitual gamblers and their issues. I'm talking about Jordan and his specific issues that seem to be non-existent

Was money an issue for Jordan? No.

Was debt an issue? No.

What was the issue?
Not paying debts (at times) makes them feel like they never lost to begin with.

Also just want to clarify that I'm not suggesting Jordan's dad's death was tied to MJ's gambling addiction.

HurricaneKid
08-17-2015, 05:39 PM
I don't see how Jordan ever had "issues with gambling"?

Like, what was the issue?

Did he run out of money? No.

Did he get suspended from the NBA? No.

Did his wife leave him? No.

Did he lose how house, car, job etc etc? No.

What's the issue?

Well he didn't pay his debts. This book is almost free and shows just how out of control he was:
http://www.amazon.com/Michael-Me-Gambling-Addiction-Help/dp/0963717715

And he left the NBA for 2 years. Do you really think MJ left the NBA to play baseball?

Yes, his wife DID leave him. He paid a $165M divorce settlement.

So you were pretty far off on your questions.