The 30/5/50% club

[Marchesk]

30 pt, 5 assist, 50% FG:

Wilt (twice)
Jordan (5X)
Durant

[RoundMoundOfReb]

LeBron (11x) if we adjust his stats to the 60s

[Marchesk]

LeBron (11x) if we adjust his stats to the 60s

No threes, no flopping, no crab walking.

[riseagainst]

so MJ > Wilt, got it.

[aj1987]

Even more damning, Chamberlain’s selfless and winning ways proved an aberration.
The satisfaction of victory remained less rewarding than the accumulation of statistics. In
1967-1968 the 76ers cruised to the best regular season record, and they should have been
a budding dynasty. But tensions surfaced, as they always did around Chamberlain. For
one, he resolved to lead the NBA in assists—no center had ever done that, and he assumed
it would reinforce his greatness. So he stopped attacking the basket, favored passes to
quick shooters like Walker and Cunningham, and passed up easy shots if a teammate was
open. He had managed to make unselfishness selfish. Lynch also provides a revealing tale
after interviewing journalist George Kiseda. Chafing at Hannum’s lecture after a loss,
Chamberlain interrupted the coach: “I think there are more important things than win-
ning. I think you have to learn how to lose, too” (p. 211). Chamberlain absorbed that
self-imposed lesson once again. In the 1968 playoffs, the 76ers wasted a 3-1 series lead
against the Celtics. Boston then won another title, the first with Russell as player-coach.
The same old story: Russell lifted his team to new heights, Chamberlain faltered when it
mattered most.


Oh, and translate from weak-ass fast-paced era to today and Wilt's numbers would be like 20-12-2 on 45%.

[ShawkFactory]

Oh, and translate from weak-ass fast-paced era to today and Wilt's numbers would be like 20-12-2 on 45%.
Why would the slower pace drop his FG% by 15 points?

[kennethgriffin]

i'm way more impressed with durant than jordan since jordan rarely shot threes and mostly drove to the rim for more than half his career



fg% is a useless stat. its about points per shot or true shooting %

[BlakFrankWhite]

KD had 32-7-6 on 50/40/90 shooting

That God like

[riseagainst]

KD had 32-7-6 on 50/40/90 shooting

That God like


:bowdown:

best player in the league in any year in the history of the NBA.

[ShawkFactory]

i'm way more impressed with durant than jordan since jordan rarely shot threes and mostly drove to the rim for more than half his career



fg% is a useless stat. its about points per shot or true shooting %
:lol

[West-Side]

I have a better club.

The 2/6 Club:

Exclusively; LeBron's!

[4 Inches]

Are we including Wilt's 1967 and 1968 seasons where he openly admitted to statpadding his assists ?

[ShawkFactory]

I have a better club.

The 2/6 Club:

Exclusively; LeBron's!
Not, actually.

If you're going to make a super lame joke at least be correct.

[aj1987]

Why would the slower pace drop his FG% by 15 points?

Oh, and translate from weak-ass fast-paced era to today and Wilt's numbers would be like 20-12-2 on 45%.
You people need to read the entire post.

[ShawkFactory]

You people need to read the entire post.
You're right, my bad. Objective and very informative post :applause:

[aj1987]

You're right, my bad. Objective and very informative post :applause:
Oh, and Wilt never averaged 60% FG when he had a 30/5 season. He averaged 52% and 54%. So, a drop of 7% and 9%. He averaged over 60% thrice in his career. 2 of those came when he was taking like 7 shots a game.

[The_Pharcyde]

LeBron (11x) if we adjust his stats to the 60s


Except basketball is not an abstract thing and those players physically put up those statistics

They literally shot and passed the ball to achieve those numbers

[ISHGoat]

i'm way more impressed with durant than jordan since jordan rarely shot threes and mostly drove to the rim for more than half his career



fg% is a useless stat. its about points per shot or true shooting %

agree with bolded :cheers:

but points per shot isnt a great metric either, because free throws.

consider this case:

player A

10/20 from the field for 20 points = 1 point per shot

player B

5/5 from the field, 10/40 from the line for 20 points = 4 points per shot

but player 1 used 20 posessions, while player b used 25 (assuming all his FT are from 2 shot fouls, no and1, tech, etc)

in the end, TS% is king, which is basically points/posessions.

HOWEVER,

ts% doesnt account for the posessions in which you ended with a turnover. so then we delve into deeper advanced stats and arrive at things like PER, BPM, VORP, WS48 which try to fully capture a player's performance through all the recorded stats.

but even that doesnt account for things like hustle, saving loose balls, hitting clutch go-ahead shots at the end of close games, etc

I hope that advanced metrics can continue to improve and capture more aspects of the game.