Kobe Lebron and Jordan

[sundizz]

Lebron - The best at carrying low to mediocre players deep into the playoffs
Jordan - Best at taking a great team and making it into a dynasty
Kobe - Best at winning chips playing with a big man superstar

Lebron - Worst at getting the most out of other superstar teammates and/or adapting to a multiple threat offense
Jordan - Worst at getting scrub teammates to play better (personality). Intimidates rather than leads by example.
Kobe - Worst at being a full season workhorse/carrying scrub teammates.

[ISHGoat]

Kobe doesn't bong in the same breath as LEbron or Jordan.

[Nash]

Not sure what you're talking about.. Kobe was a beast carrying a bunch of scrubs in 05-2006 to 2007-08 (pre-gasol). Not sure if srs.

LeBron has adapted plenty of times.. which is why he won in 2012 and 13. Stay mad my friend.
you're so f..ckin' rare, always at all times defending both lebron and Kobe.

:applause:

[Dragonyeuw]

Kobe - Best at winning chips playing with a big man superstar



Kobe was the only one of the 3 to play with a prime superstar big. So that makes him the best by default, doesn't it?

[tpols]

It has to do with conference disparity too.. Ie when kobe carried scrubs to the playoffs out west he got a 7 or 8 seed and had to play top ranked suns teams. If he played east, his team maybe gets a few more wins but even if they don't they'd be playing the bosh led raptors in 07 and the Wizards in 06.. just a massive difference.

Same thing with jordan.. had to play dynasty celtics and pistons at their peak. What do you expect? Of course lebron will have a better chance to get his team further when he's playing vastly inferior competition.

I do agree bron is a better one man army type because of being able to clog more holes.. but conference/opponent disparity plays a big part

[dubeta]

Kobe- best at losing in the 1st round with Dwight Howard on his team

[Bandito]

Kobe- best at losing in the 1st round with Dwight Howard on his team
Kobe has never lost in the 1st round with Dwight Howard on his team.

[3ball]

Lebron - The best at carrying low to mediocre players deep into the playoffs



This is exactly what MJ did in 1989 despite Doug Collins' poor coaching.

Without MJ in 1989, the 6th-seeded, 47-win Bulls miss the playoffs.

But WITH Jordan, they took the champion Bad Boys to 6 games in ECF.. So instead of being a lottery team heading into the 1990 season, the Bulls were ECF veterans and 1 season away from their 1st three-peat.. That's the GOAT impact - lottery vs. 1 season away from 3-peat.





Jordan - Worst at getting scrub teammates to play better (personality).


What a joke - MJ gave Kerr and Paxson the careers they have now.

Without MJ, we'd never have heard of these guys - they'd be nobodies on garbage teams or not even in NBA.. Kerr, Paxson and Armstrong were comfortable playing with MJ, so they always came up big..

Whereas Chalmers, Cole and Battier always sucked alongside Lebron, despite having equal or greater talent to Kerr/Paxson/Armstrong.

Btw, Horace Grant says he'd be just another player without MJ:

"If it wasn't for MJ, I don't think I'd be sitting here right now. Not saying I wouldn't have had a decent career, but for a leader to lead you to 3 championships...." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_aYOQVWSCY&t=14m44s
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[Westbrook0]

Kobe doesn't bong in the same breath as LEbron or Jordan.

Yeah, you gotta wait your turn if you want the full hit.

:pimp:

[JohnMax]

Kobe was playing Phoenix Suns in the 1st round. Suns took the 2007 Spurs, which swept Cleveland, to 7 games.

[Soundwave]

To be honest though, which one of LeBron's "bad teams" would beat the 80s Celtics or Bad Boy Pistons in a 7 game series?

I think LeBron would lose every year if they had to play those two teams in the playoffs, even with Wade and Bosh.

[Mirror]

Lebron - The best at carrying low to mediocre players deep into the playoffs
Jordan - Best at taking a great team and making it into a dynasty
Kobe - Best at winning chips playing with a big man superstar

Lebron - Worst at getting the most out of other superstar teammates and/or adapting to a multiple threat offense
Jordan - Worst at getting scrub teammates to play better (personality). Intimidates rather than leads by example.
Kobe - Worst at being a full season workhorse/carrying scrub teammates.

That is clearly Kobe. Kobe won't even give scrubs the ball.

[Droid101]

Kobe had the best record in the West BEFORE the Gasol trade. He was carrying everything that year.

[kennethgriffin]

kobe = best at winning multiple championships without another top 50 player all time

[riseagainst]

so what i got from the OP:

MJ > Kobe > Lebron > MJ > Kobe > Lebron > MJ

[coast2coast]

Kobe had the best record in the West BEFORE the Gasol trade. He was carrying everything that year.

Actually, the Lakers were in the 6th seed and headed for not even making the playoffs.

I'm not sure why you had to lie to try to make a point. It's not like the information isn't there to expose you.