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The_Pharcyde
06-22-2015, 02:46 PM
first off while I dont believe him to be near a hall of fame talent...

but with the passing of time, will his accomplishments lose context?

He will be seen as a finals MVP and a guy who was previously an All Star and defensive first teamer.. he also has a Gold Medal to claim along with an electric style of play...
there is more on his resume than a lot of current HOFers

Will people remember his stellar defense on LBJ and begin to overrate him as times moves further from the present?

or will he become the known as the guy who changed the definition of the Finals MVP trophy?

Clyde
06-22-2015, 02:49 PM
No.

No he won't.

FireDavidKahn
06-22-2015, 02:50 PM
*****, are you ****ing serious?:oldlol:

Locked_Up_Tonight
06-22-2015, 02:51 PM
No. Geez. Read up on the history of the game. No need to ask that question.

The_Pharcyde
06-22-2015, 02:56 PM
No. Geez. Read up on the history of the game. No need to ask that question.

I know the history of the game, Im just saying as time passes, context leaves the building and people will only see the paper accomplishments of Iguodala rather than people knowing the context of whole career trajectory

look at how Reggie Millers career has been portrayed since his retirement because of the New York series in the mid 90's
I love reggie but he is overrated for various reasons

Locked_Up_Tonight
06-22-2015, 03:04 PM
But Reggie made all nba teams. He made all star teams. He was the all time leading 3 point shooter.

Iggy will finish his career with may be 14k in points.... (I;m not even going to bother with rebounds, etc because it will be way lower...) Having a fmvp will not overcome that.

Shawn Marion, who has three times the resume as Iggy, and he probably won't make the Hall.

Iggy has no shot. Literally zilch.

FireDavidKahn
06-22-2015, 03:05 PM
I know the history of the game, Im just saying as time passes, context leaves the building and people will only see the paper accomplishments of Iguodala rather than people knowing the context of whole career trajectory

look at how Reggie Millers career has been portrayed since his retirement because of the New York series in the mid 90's
I love reggie but he is overrated for various reasons
Reggie ****ing Miller scored 25,000 points and was one of the best shooters ever.:oldlol:

Heavincent
06-22-2015, 03:08 PM
Shawn Marion, who has three times the resume as Iggy


How?

24-Inch_Chrome
06-22-2015, 03:11 PM
He probably won't but the NBA hall of fame is easily the weakest of the major North American sports. I don't think it'll happen but it's possible.

gts
06-22-2015, 03:11 PM
Reggie ****ing Miller scored 25,000 points and was one of the best shooters ever.:oldlol::lol Yeah not sure where he was going with that

Locked_Up_Tonight
06-22-2015, 03:11 PM
How?

Go look at their resumes. Marion made the all star team 4 times. Iggy once. Marion made the 3rd team all-nba team twice. Iggy made it none.

Then go look at their career totals. Marion blows Iggy away.

gts
06-22-2015, 03:13 PM
He probably won't but the NBA hall of fame is easily the weakest of the major North American sports. I don't think it'll happen but it's possible.There is no NBA hall of fame, it's the basketball hall of fame for all of basketball hence the different standards compared to MLB or the NFL

24-Inch_Chrome
06-22-2015, 03:15 PM
There is no NBA hall of fame, it's the basketball hall of fame for all of basketball hence the different standards compared to MLB or the NFL

****, knew that, brain fart. :lol

Derka
06-22-2015, 03:16 PM
Jesus :facepalm

Legends66NBA7
06-22-2015, 03:16 PM
^I still don't know how Marion never made an All-Defensive team. Prime Marion was definitely better prime Iggy.


To answer the question, there's nothing Iggy can do to make the HOF. Guy never made an All-NBA team, 1 all-star selection, 2 All-Defensive selections, a gold medal (wasn't a big contributor to that team)... for 11 seasons, he was never anything more than average to above average player. He's getting very overrated at this point because of the Finals MVP.

Heavincent
06-22-2015, 03:18 PM
^I still don't know how Marion never made an All-Defensive team. Prime Marion was definitely better prime Iggy.


To answer the question, there's nothing Iggy can do to make the HOF. Guy never made an All-NBA team, 1 all-star selection, 2 All-Defensive selections, a gold medal (wasn't a big contributor to that team)... for 11 seasons, he was never anything more than average to above average player. He's getting very overrated at this point because of the Finals MVP.

He was never an average player. He's always been well above average.

midatlantic09
06-22-2015, 03:19 PM
Absolutely not. He's done nothing to warrant a spot in the HOF, and no, winning Finals MVP and 1 all-star appearance (which was basically a gift from the coaches...dude averaged 13/5/5 on an 7-8th seed Sixers team that year) isn't enough.

Also, he wasn't a truly standout player on the high school and college levels (him going lottery was all about potential, not current skill).

gts
06-22-2015, 03:19 PM
****, knew that, brain fart. :lollol, your point is correct in that the players in the BBall HOF are more varied on who gets in but i think the standards are different because of it's trying to value a players contributions in a larger more global scale

if that makes sense :lol

The_Pharcyde
06-22-2015, 03:20 PM
But Reggie made all nba teams. He made all star teams. He was the all time leading 3 point shooter.

Iggy will finish his career with may be 14k in points.... (I;m not even going to bother with rebounds, etc because it will be way lower...) Having a fmvp will not overcome that.

Shawn Marion, who has three times the resume as Iggy, and he probably won't make the Hall.

Iggy has no shot. Literally zilch.

I believe Reggie is HOF'er but people overrate him in the sense that they compare him to the Kobes and Wades.. who were obviously better than reggie was... but history developed a more dramatic career for reggie leaving people thinking he had the same impact on a team as some all time great 2's

with Andre, I think this finals mvp will begin to carry a ton of weight as time passes for various reasons
I think you have to factor in that he was matched opposite of the greatest player of this generation and this statistically was the most watched finals, featuring lebron and the new face of the league which will surely leave an imprint on the pop culture zeitgeist of the times

I think revisionist history will paint andre as a player he truly wasnt.. a pippen type
the ultimate unselfish player... losing starter position for the whole year without any complaint while bursting onto the scene in the finals and winning the championship mvp

he will become the example used by people when they bring up the most unselfish players of all time and what happens when you buy in and become selfless... similar to how all youth coaches point to MJ when talking to kids who didn't make a team or failed at a task

revisionist history will eventually give him an outsider chance to get in compared to some players who have achieved more and frankly deserve it a lot more

Legends66NBA7
06-22-2015, 03:23 PM
He was never an average player. He's always been well above average.

Even then, above average just doesn't cut it. If he had a strong overall international, college, and was a perennial all-star in his NBA career, I can see him making it. He just can't make the HOF given his career as it is. The Finals MVP doesn't give him that big of a boost.

kennethgriffin
06-22-2015, 03:24 PM
[B]
NBA champion (2015)
NBA Finals MVP (2015)
NBA All-Star (2012)
NBA All-Defensive First Team (2014)
NBA All-Defensive Second Team (2011)
NBA All-Rookie First Team (2005)
NBA Rookie Challenge MVP (2006)
Olympic Games
Gold medal

24-Inch_Chrome
06-22-2015, 03:25 PM
lol, your point is correct in that the players in the BBall HOF are more varied on who gets in but i think the standards are different because of it's trying to value a players contributions in a larger more global scale

if that makes sense :lol

That's fair as far as different standards. Basketball has spread further than other major North American sports imo, so judging its players a little differently makes sense.

gts
06-22-2015, 03:26 PM
[QUOTE=kennethgriffin][B]
NBA champion (2015)
NBA Finals MVP (2015)
NBA All-Star (2012)
NBA All-Defensive First Team (2014)
NBA All-Defensive Second Team (2011)
NBA All-Rookie First Team (2005)
NBA Rookie Challenge MVP (2006)
Olympic Games
Gold medal

warriorfan
06-22-2015, 03:32 PM
[QUOTE=kennethgriffin][B]
NBA champion (2015)
NBA Finals MVP (2015)
NBA All-Star (2012)
NBA All-Defensive First Team (2014)
NBA All-Defensive Second Team (2011)
NBA All-Rookie First Team (2005)
NBA Rookie Challenge MVP (2006)
Olympic Games
Gold medal

24-Inch_Chrome
06-22-2015, 03:37 PM
People who make 1 all star game and have a career average of 14 ppg do not make the Hall of Fame.

Bill Bradley, 12.4 PPG, one all-star appearance. :confusedshrug:

HOoopCityJones
06-22-2015, 03:45 PM
[QUOTE=kennethgriffin][B]
NBA champion (2015)
NBA Finals MVP (2015)
NBA All-Star (2012)
NBA All-Defensive First Team (2014)
NBA All-Defensive Second Team (2011)
NBA All-Rookie First Team (2005)
NBA Rookie Challenge MVP (2006)
Olympic Games
Gold medal

warriorfan
06-22-2015, 03:46 PM
Bill Bradley, 12.4 PPG, one all-star appearance. :confusedshrug:

Bill Bradley is a 70 year old white guy so he got ushered in on the DL. Iguodala not gonna get dat white privledge sympothy vote :lol

24-Inch_Chrome
06-22-2015, 03:47 PM
Bill Bradley is a 70 year old white guy so he got ushered in on the DL. Iguodala not gonna get dat white privledge sympothy vote :lol

Iggy has an FMVP and 6-10 years left his career. I still don't think it's likely but let's not pretend that he has no chance.

The_Pharcyde
06-22-2015, 03:49 PM
Iggy has an FMVP and 6-10 years left his career. I still don't think it's likely but let's not pretend that he has no chance.

agree

Legends66NBA7
06-22-2015, 03:53 PM
The hype is probably as high as it gets for Iggy right now.

If he makes it, guys like Michael Cooper and Bruce Bowen should make it. Even Marion should make it, he was a flat out better player than Iggy.

Timmy D for MVP
06-22-2015, 03:55 PM
If they let Iguo in the Hall is going to need to get a lot bigger because they'd have to let in a lot more guys.

r0drig0lac
06-22-2015, 04:19 PM
he leads a stacked team and will probably win a few more rings and FMVP, I would say yes.

ralph_i_el
06-22-2015, 04:24 PM
NBA Champion, All-Star, Finals MVP, Olympic Gold Medalist, Great defense and all-around play


He's definitely in imo.. If Drazen Petrovic can make it, I don't see why Iggy can't. With all due respect to Petrovic of course.
So all iggy needs to do is die tragically and he's in?

Locked_Up_Tonight
06-22-2015, 04:26 PM
Either the people posting in here are about 10 years old, or just really trolling, or just incredibly dumb. I'm really not sure which.

Smoke117
06-22-2015, 04:48 PM
21.5ppg career high

Uh...his career high is 19.9 ppg not 21.5.

midatlantic09
06-22-2015, 06:18 PM
NBA champion (2015)
NBA Finals MVP (2015)
NBA All-Star (2012)
NBA All-Defensive First Team (2014)
NBA All-Defensive Second Team (2011)
NBA All-Rookie First Team (2005)
NBA Rookie Challenge MVP (2006)
Olympic Games
Gold medal – first place 2012 London Team
FIBA World Championship
Gold medal – first place 2010 Turkey Team
FIBA Americas U18 Championship
Bronze medal – third place 2002 Isla Margarita Team
21.5ppg career high


Many team accolades, not enough individual accolades. Getting in the HOF should be more about individual accolades than team. Heck, Robert Horry has 5 rings or something.

Also, it should be mandatory than every HOF inductee have at least 2 All-NBA selections (1st 2nd or 3rd team is fine).

IncarceratedBob
06-22-2015, 10:04 PM
marion isn't making no damn hall of fame what the hell lmao

1987_Lakers
06-22-2015, 10:18 PM
Probably not, but this guy will go down as one of the best all-around players of his era. He could do a little bit of everything.

warriorfan
06-22-2015, 10:23 PM
Probably not, but this guy will go down as one of the best all-around players of his era. He could do a little bit of everything.

Except staying on the floor during crunch time due to poor FT shooting

Nuff Said
06-22-2015, 10:32 PM
Wrong post

JellyBean
06-22-2015, 10:40 PM
No. Iggy will not make the HOF.

macmac
06-23-2015, 02:23 AM
A better question is, will Iggy make the starting lineup next year?

1987_Lakers
06-23-2015, 02:43 AM
Except staying on the floor during crunch time due to poor FT shooting

You so bitter about that FMVP:oldlol:

Rose'sACL
06-23-2015, 02:54 AM
he leads a stacked team and will probably win a few more rings and FMVP, I would say yes.
warriors are not winning another ring unless cavs and okc get unlucky with injuries again.

Heavincent
06-23-2015, 03:03 AM
warriors are not winning another ring unless cavs and okc get unlucky with injuries again.

The Warriors are the best team until proven otherwise. Their season was no fluke.

Rose'sACL
06-23-2015, 03:40 AM
The Warriors are the best team until proven otherwise. Their season was no fluke.
if the cavs won against warriors without iggy and green, almost everyone would be calling it a fluke and cavs would have to win against next season to prove that it wasn't a fluke. I wouldn't even blame them.

some people can even say that Cavs only lost this year because they had very few players resulting in players being too tired.

Warriors fans should be happy but at the same time realize that if they don't win again next year, everyone would call their championship a fluke one. Pistons repeated showing that they can win against healthy teams and 1989 pistons were the last team who got as much of a break injury wise as 2015 warriors.

BasedTom
06-23-2015, 04:02 AM
his dunk contest is what puts him over the edge

Jameerthefear
06-23-2015, 04:16 AM
HOF? lmao iggy is overrated as shit

Fallen Angel
06-23-2015, 04:30 AM
Career averages for comparison

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TAZORAC
06-23-2015, 05:40 AM
Igoudala is better then Dra