All Time Greats Swept Twice In The Finals

[Eric Cartman]

Wes Unseld (1971 vs Bucks) (1975 vs Warriors)
Magic Johnson (1983 vs Sixers, 1989 vs Pistons)
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (1983 vs Sixers, 1989 vs Pistons)
Lebron James (2007 vs Spurs, 2015 vs Warriors)

[NBAplayoffs2001]

Wes Unseld (1971 vs Bucks) (1975 vs Warriors)
Magic Johnson (1983 vs Sixers, 1989 vs Pistons)
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (1983 vs Sixers, 1989 vs Pistons)
Lebron James (2007 vs Spurs, 2015 vs Warriors)

Not an all time great. Arguably not top 10 even in this era.

[imdaman99]

The Cavs have not been swept. Have some respect.

I got them winning a game.

[1987_Lakers]

Wes Unseld was great, but he was never really a superstar.

Kareem was like 42 and Magic was injured in that '89 Finals.

You are also forgetting Shaq in 1995

[imdaman99]

Wes Unseld was great, but he was never really a superstar.

Kareem was like 42 and Magic was injured in that '89 Finals.

You are also forgetting Shaq in 1995
Kobe kept Shaq from getting swept twice in the Finals with his dramatic shot to send the game into OT in game 2 against the Pistons :applause: Unfortunately that was the lone highlight for the Lakers.

For an all time great, Shaq sure got swept a lot in the playoffs.

[Eric Cartman]

Wes Unseld was great, but he was never really a superstar.

Kareem was like 42 and Magic was injured in that '89 Finals.

You are also forgetting Shaq in 1995
Firstly, I didn't say superstars getting swept, I said all time greats, which Unseld is with 5 all star selections, MVP and FMVP.

Also, Shaq wasn't swept twice in the finals, just in 95 against Houston.

[gilalizard]

Kobe kept Shaq from getting swept twice in the Finals with his dramatic shot to send the game into OT in game 2 against the Pistons :applause: Unfortunately that was the lone highlight for the Lakers.

For an all time great, Shaq sure got swept a lot in the playoffs.

Blame it on the rain.

[SugarHill]

Kobe kept Shaq from getting swept twice in the Finals with his dramatic shot to send the game into OT in game 2 against the Pistons :applause: Unfortunately that was the lone highlight for the Lakers.

For an all time great, Shaq sure got swept a lot in the playoffs.
Shaq was infinitely better than Kobe in 04

[TheMarkMadsen]

Shaq was infinitely better than Kobe in 04

:biggums: :biggums:

how was he infinitely better when he wasn't even the teams leading scorer for the regular season or playoffs

He sure as hell wasn't "infinitely better" in the minds of the Lakers FO, (the same FO you guys are always propping up) seeing as they had to choose between the two and chose

Kobe

[SugarHill]

:biggums: :biggums:

how was he infinitely better when he wasn't even the teams leading scorer for the regular season and playoffs

Kobe scored like 3 more points on worse efficiency was worse in every other regard, particularly the Finals

And Kobe was young and a clear superstar in the beginning of his prime. Shaq was already exiting his prime. Of course you take Kobe.

[TheMarkMadsen]

Kobe scored like 3 more points on worse efficiency was worse in every other regard, particularly the Finals

And Kobe was young and a clear superstar in the beginning of his prime. Shaq was already exiting his prime. Of course you take Kobe.

Kobe led the team in scoring and assist throughout the regular season and playoffs

yet Shaq was "infinitely better" like according to you its not even close :oldlol: :oldlol:

ok dude

[Kvnzhangyay]

Not an all time great. Arguably not top 10 even in this era.

That's only because you weren't old enough to watch other greats :confusedshrug:

[LikeABosh]

Never post on this forum again after Lebron wins the series. That goes for every retard on here. I'll ****ing murk you.

[NBAplayoffs2001]

That's only because you weren't old enough to watch other greats :confusedshrug:

Grew up watching Patrick Ewing, John Starks, Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen.

[Rose'sACL]

Grew up watching Patrick Ewing, John Starks, Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen.
Most people did that. Why mention john starks though?

[NBAplayoffs2001]

Most people did that. Why mention john starks though?

Because I watched the Knicks?

[Droid101]

All these 15 year olds didn't even see the 2004 Finals. Kobe shot bad true but go watch the ****ing games. The Pistons were on another level of denial defense. They could not get the ball to Shaq, and it was because of the Piston's game plan.

[SOD 21]

These things are often the result of injuries more than anything else.

For example, Magic Johnson is on here in 1989 even though Byron Scott didn't play in the finals and Magic was hurt in the second quarter of game two with a pulled hamstring. The Lakers played most of that finals without their starting back court, which accounted for over 40 points, 15-16 assists and 12 or 13 rebounds a game..

I don't particularly like LeBron James. But you have to put it in context if he is swept this season with injuries to two other top his team's top three players; otherwise, it just comes across as either ignorant or hating.

[Ne 1]

All these 15 year olds didn't even see the 2004 Finals. Kobe shot bad true but go watch the ****ing games. The Pistons were on another level of denial defense. They could not get the ball to Shaq, and it was because of the Piston's game plan.

Exactly. Nobody would claim Kobe had a good, or even a respectable series for a player of his caliber. His shot selection in particular was terrible (but at least he played good defense in that series and won game 2 with a clutch bucket) You have to take into account though that while Shaq had some great offensive games that series, he was slow/lazy defensively (and lazy on the glass) coming off the pick and Rip and Chauncy got to the rim at will. Payton averaged 4 ppg on 32% shooting in that series and looked slow defensively as Billups torched him for 21 ppg on 51% shooting and 47% on 3s. Malone was limping around that whole series. He couldn't contribute due to his injury and was a non-factor. Neither played at any notable level that series. To completely blame Kobe for the Lakers losing is absolutely ridiculous considering the level they were actually at during that series. Malone due to being a 41 year old playing through an injury he sustained during the T-Wolves series, and Payton was just embarrassingly incompetent on both ends of he floor, he was a bad fit and even criticized the triangle offense that season.

[Rose'sACL]

All these 15 year olds didn't even see the 2004 Finals. Kobe shot bad true but go watch the ****ing games. The Pistons were on another level of denial defense. They could not get the ball to Shaq, and it was because of the Piston's game plan.
I saw plenty of opportunities where Kobe saw shaq in a good position in the post but refused to pass. Everyone points to that series when saying that shaq and Kobe had huge differences for a reason.
So many people have pointed to this that no one asks for any proof for it outside of ISH.

[LAZERUSS]

Wes Unseld (1971 vs Bucks) (1975 vs Warriors)
Elvin Hayes (1971 vs Bucks) (1975 vs Warriors)
Magic Johnson (1983 vs Sixers, 1989 vs Pistons)
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (1983 vs Sixers, 1989 vs Pistons)
Lebron James (2007 vs Spurs, 2015 vs Warriors)

Just an FYI...

Nope, didn't happen. That '71 Bullets team was one of the least talented teams in NBA Finals history.

[sd3035]

Wes Unseld (1971 vs Bucks) (1975 vs Warriors)
Elvin Hayes (1971 vs Bucks) (1975 vs Warriors)
Magic Johnson (1983 vs Sixers, 1989 vs Pistons)
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (1983 vs Sixers, 1989 vs Pistons)
Lebron James (2007 vs Spurs, 2015 vs Warriors)


All time great is a bit of a stretch

[Hey Yo]

Kobe scored like 3 more points on worse efficiency was worse in every other regard, particularly the Finals

And Kobe was young and a clear superstar in the beginning of his prime. Shaq was already exiting his prime. Of course you take Kobe.
Geeeeeee, there's a shock.

[dankok8]

Just an FYI...

Nope, didn't happen. That '71 Bullets team was one of the least talented teams in NBA Finals history.

You are right. Elvin Hayes didn't play for the '71 Bullets. One of the least talented teams finals though? No way... 3 HOFers with Earl "the Pearl" Monroe, Gus Johnson, and Wes Unseld. With Jack Marin, Kevin Loughery, John Tresvant... Lots of depth on that team too. They beat the mighty Knicks in the East Finals and just ran into a wall...

They were far from an untalented team despite Gus playing injured. The Bucks were just too good. Realistically a 70+ win team. They went 1-5 in the last 6 games after they long clinched the league's best record. #1 in both ORtg and Drtg.

[cltcfn2924]

Grew up watching Patrick Ewing, John Starks, Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen.


John Starks??????

[SCdac]

But if you change it to "All time greats swept in the playoffs" the list would basically be all the greats

[1~Gibson~1]

Cavs will win in 5.

Delly will shut Steph Curry down.
Shump will lock down Klay Thompson.

[Detroit]

Not an all time great. Arguably not top 10 even in this era.


I highly recommend you start talking with your mouth and not your ass bud. Only a PURE idiot doesn't think that LeBron isn't an all-time great.

[Eric Cartman]

Just an FYI...

Nope, didn't happen. That '71 Bullets team was one of the least talented teams in NBA Finals history.
Hayes joined the team a year later in '72.

Thanks for the heads up, will edit.