Skip Bayless: "Has there ever been an easier run to the Finals?"

[IllegalD]

‏@RealSkipBayless
Has there ever been an easier run to the Finals than 40-42 Boston, troubled/injured Chicago, injured/overachieving Atlanta?

https://twitter.com/RealSkipBayless/status/603376524989960192

[keep-itreal]

in b 4 lebron stans

[IllegalD]

in b 4 lebron stans

:dancin :lol

[outbreak]

Maybe one of his previous runs when the refs handed him the series

[iamgine]

Just Skip doing what gets him paid. Chicago and Atlanta are very formidable teams.

[ScarSymmetry]

Agreed regarding the East. My housemate who was Cavs Fan - Miami Fan - now suddenly Cavs fan again was going on about Golden State having the easiest championship ever because they have to play injury depleted Cavs.

Fails to understand how much harder the Warriors had it to actually get to the Finals. You can't argue with idiots.

[Magic 32]

Just Skip doing what gets him paid. Chicago and Atlanta are very formidable teams.

When healty.

And even then not really.

[CJ Mustard]

Skip's attempts to discredit Lebron are completely laughable at this point. Lebron has completely and utterly shattered every legit criticism Skip could make of him, and now he has to resort to weak shit like this.

Almost feel bad for Skip at this point. Lebron has flat out ethered his soul and rendered his career useless at this point. The guy has nothing now that he can't call Lebron "Prince James" or "the Frozen One" anymore. He tries to recreate the magic by criticizing other stars (like his ridiculous attempts to shit on Westbrook a couple of years ago), but it just isn't the same.

[Magic 32]

Almost feel bad for Skip at this point. Lebron has flat out ethered his soul and rendered his career useless at this point.

Lebron is the reason Skip is a superstar on ESPN.

The Mayweather of white troll journalists. Pissing off unemployed black men.

[aj1987]

Off the top of my head?

1987 Lakers (probably the weakest competition to the Finals EVER):

First round - 37 win Nuggets
WCSF - 42 win Warriors
WCF - 39 win Sonics

'09 Lakers (the records doesn't show just how bad those teams were):

First round - 48 win Deron and Boozer led Jazz
WCSF - 53 win Rockets with an injured Yao
WCF - 54 win Nuggets

[iamgine]

Skip's attempts to discredit Lebron are completely laughable at this point. Lebron has completely and utterly shattered every legit criticism Skip could make of him, and now he has to resort to weak shit like this.

Almost feel bad for Skip at this point. Lebron has flat out ethered his soul and rendered his career useless at this point. The guy has nothing now that he can't call Lebron "Prince James" or "the Frozen One" anymore. He tries to recreate the magic by criticizing other stars (like his ridiculous attempts to shit on Westbrook a couple of years ago), but it just isn't the same.
Nah he don't care, just doing his job and laughing all the way to the bank.

[Dresta]

Skip's attempts to discredit Lebron are completely laughable at this point. Lebron has completely and utterly shattered every legit criticism Skip could make of him, and now he has to resort to weak shit like this.

Almost feel bad for Skip at this point. Lebron has flat out ethered his soul and rendered his career useless at this point. The guy has nothing now that he can't call Lebron "Prince James" or "the Frozen One" anymore. He tries to recreate the magic by criticizing other stars (like his ridiculous attempts to shit on Westbrook a couple of years ago), but it just isn't the same.


Do you have a crush on Mr. James by any chance? Because you seem to be getting rather upset and vitriolic about a television pundit for picking on him...

[IllegalD]

Off the top of my head?

1987 Lakers (probably the weakest competition to the Finals EVER):

First round - 37 win Nuggets
WCSF - 42 win Warriors
WCF - 39 win Sonics

'09 Lakers (the records doesn't show just how bad those teams were):

First round - 48 win Deron and Boozer led Jazz
WCSF - 53 win Rockets with an injured Yao
WCF - 54 win Nuggets

2009 Utah Jazz Roster:

Deron Williams (5x Allstar)
Carlos Boozer (2x Allstar)
Paul Milsap (2x Allstar)
Andrei Kirilenko (1x Allstar)
Mehmet Okur (1x Allstar)
Kyle Korver (1x Allstar)

Coach: Jerry Sloan (one of the GOAT ringless coaches)

6 All-Star Level players!!! :eek:

It's amazing how much more stacked even a low seed in the brutal Western Conference is compared to a Conference Finals finalist in the East like the Hawks. :applause:

Kobe! :bowdown:

[Magic 32]

WCF - 54 win Nuggets

Went 25-5 in the last 17 regular season games and first 12 postseason games.

Billups at his veteran best.

Best version of Melo ever.

A dirty defense first player, who did nothing but kick and push Kobe (Dahntay Jones).

Nene, Martin, Anderson and Jr Smith.

I think that team would have beat Magic in 5-6 games.

[Fallen Angel]

Did this dude try to downplay Jerry Sloan's Utah Jazz teams in the 2000s?

Kek'd

[SexSymbol]

Off the top of my head?

1987 Lakers (probably the weakest competition to the Finals EVER):

First round - 37 win Nuggets
WCSF - 42 win Warriors
WCF - 39 win Sonics

'09 Lakers (the records doesn't show just how bad those teams were):

First round - 48 win Deron and Boozer led Jazz
WCSF - 53 win Rockets with an injured Yao
WCF - 54 win Nuggets
Nuggets and Jazz were great teams.

[IllegalD]

Went 25-5 in the last 17 regular season games and first 12 postseason games.

Billups at his veteran best.

Best version of Melo ever.

A dirty defense first player, who did nothing but kick and push Kobe (Dahntay Jones).

Nene, Martin, Anderson and Jr Smith.

I think that team would have beat Magic in 5-6 games.

2009 Denver Nuggets:

Carmelo Anthony (8x Allstar)
Chauncey Billups (5x Allstar, 1x Finals MVP)
Kenyon Martin (1x Allstar)
J.R. Smith (6th Man of the Year)

3 All-Star level players, one 6th man! :eek: (in comparison the 2009 Lakers only had 2 All-Star level players and one 6th man)

Coach: George Karl (one of the ringless GOAT coaches)

[TheBigVeto]

Off the top of my head?

1987 Lakers (probably the weakest competition to the Finals EVER):

First round - 37 win Nuggets
WCSF - 42 win Warriors
WCF - 39 win Sonics

'09 Lakers (the records doesn't show just how bad those teams were):

First round - 48 win Deron and Boozer led Jazz
WCSF - 53 win Rockets with an injured Yao
WCF - 54 win Nuggets

Correct answer.

[Batz]

Off the top of my head?

1987 Lakers (probably the weakest competition to the Finals EVER):

First round - 37 win Nuggets
WCSF - 42 win Warriors
WCF - 39 win Sonics

'09 Lakers (the records doesn't show just how bad those teams were):

First round - 48 win Deron and Boozer led Jazz
WCSF - 53 win Rockets with an injured Yao
WCF - 54 win Nuggets
Jazz and Rockets were good teams. Nuggets were really good, gave the Lakers a hell of a fight, would've probably beat the Magic too.

[Haymaker]

skip is a virgin

[SHAQisGOAT]

Off the top of my head?

1987 Lakers (probably the weakest competition to the Finals EVER):

First round - 37 win Nuggets
WCSF - 42 win Warriors
WCF - 39 win Sonics

'09 Lakers (the records doesn't show just how bad those teams were):

First round - 48 win Deron and Boozer led Jazz
WCSF - 53 win Rockets with an injured Yao
WCF - 54 win Nuggets

1987 Sonics with prime Ellis going beastly in the post-season, along with prime Chambers, prime McDaniel and a decent supporting cast... Would definitely beat the 2015 Hawks that you've just seen throughout the Playoffs, considering everything.

Those '87 Nuggets would've stood better chances vs this year's Boston than the other way around. Can't see those Warriors beating Chicago though or even it being close, but Bulls would really need to keep Sleepy in check, if he was playing like he did against showtime LA... And Butler's a great defender but a smaller, quicker, more agile player was needed against a player like Floyd (Coop locked him down after the game he dropped 51).

So, '87 Lakers' run wasn't worse than this year's Cavaliers, even if LA had a considerably better team...

'09 Lakers' run certainly doesn't qualify, imo.

[edrick]

Skip Bayless hating on Lebron? I don't believe it.

[CasterL]

That nuggets team in 09 was good, and it was a really underrated series in general. They would have shat on the magic.

[sportjames23]

Do you have a crush on Mr. James by any chance? Because you seem to be getting rather upset and vitriolic about a television pundit for picking on him...

:oldlol: :lol :roll:

[BigTicket]

Clearly Skip doesn't know a damn thing about NBA history, there have been a lot of finals runs that were much, much easier than this one.

The easiest run ever was probably the 58-59 Celtics, all they had to do to get to the finals was beat a single sub .500 team.

58-59 Celtics

1st round: skipped
2nd round: did not exist
ECF: vs Syracuse Nationals (35-37)
Finals: vs Minneapolis Lakers (33-39)

[OldSchoolBBall]

It's definitely been a cakewalk for the Cavs this year.

[aj1987]

1987 Sonics with prime Ellis going beastly in the post-season, along with prime Chambers, prime McDaniel and a decent supporting cast... Would definitely beat the 2015 Hawks that you've just seen throughout the Playoffs, considering everything.

Those '87 Nuggets would've stood better chances vs this year's Boston than the other way around. Can't see those Warriors beating Chicago though or even it being close, but Bulls would really need to keep Sleepy in check, if he was playing like he did against showtime LA... And Butler's a great defender but a smaller, quicker, more agile player was needed against a player like Floyd (Coop locked him down after the game he dropped 51).

So, '87 Lakers' run wasn't worse than this year's Cavaliers, even if LA had a considerably better team...

'09 Lakers' run certainly doesn't qualify, imo.
Compared to the team they (the 3 teams) were playing against ('87 Lakers and '15 Cav's), that was a relatively easy run.

Then again, would that Sonics team even make the PO's? 39 wins in an EXTREMELY weak WC.

[All Net]

Skip bitter as always

[Kingwillball]

Skip's attempts to discredit Lebron are completely laughable at this point. Lebron has completely and utterly shattered every legit criticism Skip could make of him, and now he has to resort to weak shit like this.

Almost feel bad for Skip at this point. Lebron has flat out ethered his soul and rendered his career useless at this point. The guy has nothing now that he can't call Lebron "Prince James" or "the Frozen One" anymore. He tries to recreate the magic by criticizing other stars (like his ridiculous attempts to shit on Westbrook a couple of years ago), but it just isn't the same.

Warriors had newb pelican squad beat up and injured Memphis squad and a banged up rockets. To me the road has been pretty close both ways round to round.

[toneloc103]

He means the Warriors right?

The pelicans...
The broken down broken faced Grizz
Tony Allen missed significant time. Conley played with a broken FACE.
The dysfunctional rockets..

didnt play the Clips, nor the Spurs....

but the cavs had it easy without Love and Kyrie for several games... GTFOH

[IllegalD]

He means the Warriors right?

The pelicans...
The broken down broken faced Grizz
Tony Allen missed significant time. Conley played with a broken FACE.
The dysfunctional rockets..

didnt play the Clips, nor the Spurs....

but the cavs had it easy without Love and Kyrie for several games... GTFOH

You're actually proving the point even more.

Even the "underwhelming" competition that the Warriors faced in the West is still head and shoulders above most of the teams LeBron faced, and has faced his entire Leastern Conference career.

I mean, the Thunder missed the playoffs and the defending champion dynasty Spurs got eliminated in the first round, fer christ's sakes.

You know one thing all those "dysfunctional" "broken" teams you mentioned have that NONE of the teams LeBron faced this postseason had?

SUPERSTARS/MVP CANDIDATES (11 out of the 12 players receiving MVP votes this season are in the West, the only one in the East...LeBron)

[pauk]

Alright thats it, Skip is one of the Lebron hating trolls from ISH, with a TV job, im convinced.

[IllegalD]

Alright thats it, Skip is one of the Lebron hating trolls from ISH, with a TV job, im convinced.

Aren't you the dude who had a meltdown post the other day saying how you were "coming clean" and admitting to "just trolling this whole time"? :confusedshrug: :lol

[SHAQisGOAT]

Compared to the team they (the 3 teams) were playing against ('87 Lakers and '15 Cav's), that was a relatively easy run.

Then again, would that Sonics team even make the PO's? 39 wins in an EXTREMELY weak WC.

Definitely an easy run for both teams, and LA also is one of the GOAT teams to boot...

Regardless, all I know is that those Sonics really caught fire in the post-season and really started to play to their full potential.

They pulled the upset against the 55W Mavs (team with Aguirre, Blackman, Harper, Sam Perkins, young Detlef and Tarpley; that would've beaten this year's Boston, Chicago or Atlanta)...
Dale Ellis went ****ing ham against his former team, putting up 30 PPG on 58.0% eFG.
Then they also won against Hakeem's better seeded Rockets.

Ellis was a terrifc shooter, major off-ball but also legit 6'7, athletic and pretty good in the post; Chambers was a 6'10 athletic freak PF, who could score inside, hit outside jumpers and handle the rock; pre-injuries X-Man could score over 20 per game, very good post-game, great finisher, very athletic, really good rebounder, played defense; Lister, big dude down the middle, great rebounder, very good shot-blocker; McMillan was a pretty good playmaking PG, playing great defense; they had veterans like Mo Lucas and Fast Eddie Johnson on the bench...
^Seriously, can't see the '15 Hawks beating them, consider their "conditions" in the Playoffs.

Apart from the Showtime Lakers (one of the best teams ever), those very good Mavs, Sonics pulling upsets, the 1987 WC also had the Blazers with Drexler, Kiki, Kersey, young Terry Porter and Duckworth, or Utah with young Malone and Stockton, Griffith, Eaton, Thurl Bailey and Rickey Green... So let's not treat it that lightly.

[kshutts1]

Not reading the thread because of expected trolls. But aside from the fact that the Cavs were also very banged up, I guess not.

But to consider the injuries that other teams have faced, and not Cleveland, while also ignoring how well the supporting cast has stepped up... that's just silly. Cleveland is playing really well, and they earned this. And I do not like Lebron or the team.

[LAZERUSS]

So a Cavs team with it's second best player hurting to the point where he has missed playoff games, and it's third best player essentially has not played in the post-season...

and has still gone 12-2 and has been dominant in the process...

is supposed to forfeit their playoff wins because of a "weak" conference?


They have no say in their conference, or schedule, or playoff schedule. They can only play (and beat) whoever is next.

[imdaman99]

Let's be real, neither team has really had a tough path to get to the Finals. Hawks were pretenders and Rockets were perennial underachievers up until the last round. Grizz are a tough team but once you figure out how to beat them, they roll over and die because they can't really score. Bulls had 1 ALL NBA guy and he was hurt for key stretches of the series. He is the only ALL NBA guy the Cavs have beaten on their way to the Finals :oldlol:

If the Cavs have had a super easy path to the Finals, than the Warriors have had an easy path there.

[IllegalD]

So a Cavs team with it's second best player hurting to the point where he has missed playoff games, and it's third best player essentially has not played in the post-season...

and has still gone 12-2 and has been dominant in the process...

is supposed to forfeit their playoff wins because of a "weak" conference?


They have no say in their conference, or schedule, or playoff schedule. They can only play (and beat) whoever is next.

This is absolutely correct, but we as fans aren't obligated to give LeBron the same credit as other all time greats who have faced much tougher competition.

LeBron Stans are just gonna' have to eat sh*t and take their licks over the same exact bullspit they use to get on Kobe Stans about ("b-b-b-b-BUT he beat WEAK teams in the Finals") :applause:

[StephHamann]

The east is Bill Russell 50/60s bad.

[Duncan21formvp]

https://twitter.com/RealSkipBayless/status/603376524989960192
Yes. 2012 and 2013 was easy in the east. 2012, they played a hobbled Knicks, Pacers, Celtics and avoided the Bulls due to injury. 2013 they played the Bucks, the Bulls who were missing 3 starters and a Pacers team that didnt even win 50 games.

[Mawly-G]

Skip is acting like the Cavs didn't have their own challenges to deal with. No Kevin Love, a banged up Kyrie, JR Smith 2 game suspension, Shumpert playing through a groin injury, etc...

But then again I'm not too surprised by Skip's assessment, because he is probably the biggest LeBron hater that I know of.

Even though the Celtics series was a sweep, the Cz played the Cavs extremely tough and showed a lot of competitive drive. The Bulls series could've been very different if LeBron misses the game winner, and if Pau Gasol didn't sit out two games (however, the Cavs were still missing Kevin Love, and didn't have JR Smith for the first 2 games of this series. So this is pretty much a wash). I honestly didn't expect the Cavs to steamroll over the Hawks the way that they did (especially without two of their big three), so that was a huge surprise for me.

Bottom line is, you gotta give credit where it is due. The Cavs were dominant even with all of their injuries. Sure, the East is weak...no doubt about that, but let's not act like the Cavs didn't look impressive despite their hardships.

[strike first]

Lebron makes it look that easy, thats how good he is.

[sportjames23]

Lebron makes it look that easy, thats how good he is.


Didn't seem to work last year.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Clearly Skip doesn't know a damn thing about NBA history, there have been a lot of finals runs that were much, much easier than this one.

The easiest run ever was probably the 58-59 Celtics, all they had to do to get to the finals was beat a single sub .500 team.

58-59 Celtics

1st round: skipped
2nd round: did not exist
ECF: vs Syracuse Nationals (35-37)
Finals: vs Minneapolis Lakers (33-39)
What an era

[Beastmode88]

Skip is the biggest lebron haters ever. :cheers:
Stephen a smith is the reverse prophet. If you ever want to make some qjuick cash bet against his prediction in the finals.

[Bandito]

Just Skip doing what gets him paid. Chicago and Atlanta are very formidable teams.
:roll: :facepalm

[pauk]

Aren't you the dude who had a meltdown post the other day saying how you were "coming clean" and admitting to "just trolling this whole time"? :confusedshrug: :lol

It was just a random post between two chatting dudes, dunno about it being a meltdown... :confusedshrug: A meltdown is more closer to what you just did, randomly swiping at me with a random post of content that has nothing to do with my post here or anything about this thread, except me living rent free in your head, because you dont like to have your hero Skip Bayless or your Lebron hatred called out....

[IllegalD]

It was just a random post between two chatting dudes, dunno about it being a meltdown... :confusedshrug: A meltdown is more closer to what you just did, randomly swiping at me with a random post of content that has nothing to do with my post here or anything about this thread, except me living rent free in your head, because you dont like to have your hero Skip Bayless or your Lebron hatred called out....

Paragraph response. Meltdown confirmed. :cheers:

[Droid101]

lol @ these people trying to discredit 2009. That Jazz team was really good fools. That was BEFORE Deron went off the rails and was being called the best PG in the league by some.

[Duncan21formvp]

Lebron makes it look that easy, thats how good he is.
Shooting 43% for the playoffs and scoring 15 points vs Chicago

[Doranku]

Off the top of my head?

1987 Lakers (probably the weakest competition to the Finals EVER):

First round - 37 win Nuggets
WCSF - 42 win Warriors
WCF - 39 win Sonics

'09 Lakers (the records doesn't show just how bad those teams were):

First round - 48 win Deron and Boozer led Jazz
WCSF - 53 win Rockets with an injured Yao
WCF - 54 win Nuggets

The Deron and Boozer led Jazz were better than any team LeBron faced this post-season so far. :oldlol:

[scm5]

Skip is acting like the Cavs didn't have their own challenges to deal with. No Kevin Love, a banged up Kyrie, JR Smith 2 game suspension, Shumpert playing through a groin injury, etc...

But then again I'm not too surprised by Skip's assessment, because he is probably the biggest LeBron hater that I know of.

Even though the Celtics series was a sweep, the Cz played the Cavs extremely tough and showed a lot of competitive drive. The Bulls series could've been very different if LeBron misses the game winner, and if Pau Gasol didn't sit out two games (however, the Cavs were still missing Kevin Love, and didn't have JR Smith for the first 2 games of this series. So this is pretty much a wash). I honestly didn't expect the Cavs to steamroll over the Hawks the way that they did (especially without two of their big three), so that was a huge surprise for me.

Bottom line is, you gotta give credit where it is due. The Cavs were dominant even with all of their injuries. Sure, the East is weak...no doubt about that, but let's not act like the Cavs didn't look impressive despite their hardships.

I actually think the Cavs are just as good, if not better without Love. Tristan Thompson has really stepped it up and fits in much better than Love does.

[Ne 1]

Originally Posted by iamgine
Just Skip doing what gets him paid. Chicago and Atlanta are very formidable teams.
The 2015 Hawks are a joke, they embody the definition of pretenders/fools gold. They got hot for a stretch but they were never as good as their record indicated. Taken to 6 games games by the 38 win Nets :oldlol: Worst #1 seed and 60 win team in the history of the league. It's really no shock they got their shit pushed in by James' and the Cavs. The Wizards are actually the 2nd best team in the East, which isn't saying much because the East still sucks but they clearly would have won that series against the Hawks if not for John Wall going down and IMO Washington vs Cleveland would have actually been a more interesting and competitive match up. The Bulls are decent but without Pau their offense was non existent. It's no surprise after he got injured Chicago dropped those crucial close Games 4 and 5, shooting under 40% from the field in those games.

[oh the horror]

Just Skip doing what gets him paid. Chicago and Atlanta are very formidable teams.




In the McDonald's Burger King league, sure.


In the NBA? Not so much.

[sd3035]

Skip hitting Lebaldo's corporate sponsors and brainwashed sheep with a harsh dose of reality :roll:

[J Shuttlesworth]

Pelicans
Grizzlies with Conley/Allen injured
Rockets missing two starters

[Derka]

Has there ever been a more pointless, meaningless human being than Skip Bayless?

[J Shuttlesworth]

Has there ever been a more pointless, meaningless human being than Skip Bayless?
lol ISH will talk about how worthless everyone on ESPN is, and then suddenly worship Skip Bayless when he says something like this.

[Derka]

lol ISH will talk about how worthless everyone on ESPN is, and then suddenly worship Skip Bayless when he says something like this.

Is Linda Cohn still on ESPN? Is she still hot? If so, then I could see the point of ESPN being around still.

[Ne 1]

Pelicans
Grizzlies with Conley/Allen injured
Rockets missing two starters

Still head and shoulders above the Celtics, Bulls and Hawks.

[inclinerator]

who cares about easy run to finals what would the criticism for lebron be if he joined a stacked west team

[J Shuttlesworth]

Still head and shoulders above the Celtics, Bulls and Hawks.
Disagree. Warriors at full strength their entire playoff run.

LeBron beating a 50 and a 60 win team with Love injured, and Kyrie missing games/playing hobbled. With cavs having 2 of their big 3 injured, their injuries are more significant than any team in the playoffs.

[HOoopCityJones]

lol @ these people trying to discredit 2009. That Jazz team was really good fools. That was BEFORE Deron went off the rails and was being called the best PG in the league by some.

Yea , ni99as wanna act like there wasn't a real discussion about who was the better PG, Deron or Cp3 at one point. This is how I know half of these LBJ stans just started watching Basketball when he teamed up with Dwade.

[Lebron23]

OP is a bigger idiot than Skip Bayless. Only Morons listens to Bayless. His act is getting old.

[ImKobe]

Off the top of my head?

1987 Lakers (probably the weakest competition to the Finals EVER):

First round - 37 win Nuggets
WCSF - 42 win Warriors
WCF - 39 win Sonics

'09 Lakers (the records doesn't show just how bad those teams were):

First round - 48 win Deron and Boozer led Jazz
WCSF - 53 win Rockets with an injured Yao
WCF - 54 win Nuggets

:biggums:

09 Jazz had a top 10 offense and a top 10 defense


prime Deron, prime Boozer, Brewer, Millsap, Korver, AK-47, Okur, coached by Jerry fricken Sloan

on paper, they had a better team than the 2015 Hawks :biggums:

Denver had Billups, Melo, K-Mart, Nene, JR..Billups averaged 21/4/7 and shot 47% from 3 in the Playoffs, Melo averaged 27/6/4 on 45% shooting in the POs, JR averaged 15 a game off the bench, again a better team than any of the teams Bran faced this season..

Houston was injured, but Yao averaged 20/11 in 3 games against us in that series and Lowry went off on us. Houston was 1-2 with Yao, 2-2 without him in that series :confusedshrug:, overall, you can compare the Houston squad to this year's Bulls Squad, where Pau only gave them ONE healthy game vs Cavs. Brooks played better than Rose and MWP on the same level as Butler.

[toneloc103]

You're actually proving the point even more.

Even the "underwhelming" competition that the Warriors faced in the West is still head and shoulders above most of the teams LeBron faced, and has faced his entire Leastern Conference career.

I mean, the Thunder missed the playoffs and the defending champion dynasty Spurs got eliminated in the first round, fer christ's sakes.

You know one thing all those "dysfunctional" "broken" teams you mentioned have that NONE of the teams LeBron faced this postseason had?

SUPERSTARS/MVP CANDIDATES (11 out of the 12 players receiving MVP votes this season are in the West, the only one in the East...LeBron)

Actually you are proving my point. You mention the thunder. Look at them without Durant. westbrook could not carry them to even the 8th seed. So you tell me that if the Warrios lost one of their big 3 (whoever the 3rd one would be) that curry and thompson could just carry them through the playoffs? The lets say thompson got hurt and missed 3-4 games then they would still be cruising? Gibe LBJ some props. Cavs are 12-2 in the Playoffs regardless of the competition. You can only play who is in front of you.

[ImKobe]

Actually you are proving my point. You mention the thunder. Look at them without Durant. westbrook could not carry them to even the 8th seed. So you tell me that if the Warrios lost one of their big 3 (whoever the 3rd one would be) that curry and thompson could just carry them through the playoffs? The lets say thompson got hurt and missed 3-4 games then they would still be cruising? Gibe LBJ some props. Cavs are 12-2 in the Playoffs regardless of the competition. You can only play who is in front of you.

comparing thompson's production to KD's :oldlol:

and let's be honest, Thompson, Bogut and Green are better players than Irving, Love and TT.

Cavs have been fortunate to play under the current format because they haven't played against one legitimate title contender. Imagine if they had to face Pelicans, Memphis and Houston en route to the Finals...not saying they wouldn't win in the end but there wouldn't be one sweep and Houston overall would wreck them.

I have no problem giving them credit for making the Finals, but let's not act like it's been a tough Playoff run for them. It hasn't been.

[Raymone]

'09 Lakers (the records doesn't show just how bad those teams were):

First round - 48 win Deron and Boozer led Jazz
WCSF - 53 win Rockets with an injured Yao
WCF - 54 win Nuggets

:facepalm

[Rooster]

So a Cavs team with it's second best player hurting to the point where he has missed playoff games, and it's third best player essentially has not played in the post-season...

and has still gone 12-2 and has been dominant in the process...

is supposed to forfeit their playoff wins because of a "weak" conference?


They have no say in their conference, or schedule, or playoff schedule. They can only play (and beat) whoever is next.


All of this are true but it does change the fact that East is a relatively weak conference. Cleveland would have not gone past the first round with all that injuries in the West.

[toneloc103]

comparing thompson's production to KD's :oldlol:

and let's be honest, Thompson, Bogut and Green are better players than Irving, Love and TT.

Cavs have been fortunate to play under the current format because they haven't played against one legitimate title contender. Imagine if they had to face Pelicans, Memphis and Houston en route to the Finals...not saying they wouldn't win in the end but there wouldn't be one sweep and Houston overall would wreck them.

I have no problem giving them credit for making the Finals, but let's not act like it's been a tough Playoff run for them. It hasn't been.


You are delusional Kyrie is better than Klay. Id take love in 2 seconds over the statue they call bogut and green and thompson is possibly a wash. So again you are saying without durant and ibaka westbrook would have taken the Thunder to the finals? Oh wait.. they didnt make the playoffs...Cavs were 19-20 at one point and left for dead.. being called a bust. Now they re in the finals. Everyone was praising the team ball that the hawks played. They didnt have one Star, and in the end thats what killed them. The difference with me and other long-suffering cleveland fans is that we arent hating on the Warriors. We just want our team to get a little credit

[Inferno]

If the Cavs are frauds then the Warriors/Rockets will beat them. Now shut the **** up :facepalm

[Keno]

yea, let's not act like lebron's 2nd and 3rd options aren't injured. he got to the finals with last year's knicks bench lmao.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Can't believe I'm agreeing w/ this guy ... Skip with another banger :eek:

[aj1987]

Kobe turds getting butthurt. :roll:

:roll: @ Deron, Millsap, and Boozer on defense.
:roll: @ Pothead, fat ass, and ancient Kenyon Martin and the bench... :facepalm
:roll: @ Injured Yao, Artest, Scola, Brooks.

Seriously. You can bring up numbers and records all you want, you can ignore the FACT that those teams were mediocre and nothing special. That Lakers run is right along side this years Cavs' run. Oh, and another FACT: LeBron's #2 and #3 are injured.

[tmacattack33]

Great, so Skip says that Atlanta and Chicago were injured, but fails to mention that Cleveland was injured as well.

He likely doesn't believe what he is saying at this point. Him going against Lebron and him going in support of Tebow are the two things that have gotten him the most hits of his career, so that is what he will continue to do even if he doesn't believe it.

[livinglegend]

:biggums:

09 Jazz had a top 10 offense and a top 10 defense


prime Deron, prime Boozer, Brewer, Millsap, Korver, AK-47, Okur, coached by Jerry fricken Sloan

on paper, they had a better team than the 2015 Hawks :biggums:

Denver had Billups, Melo, K-Mart, Nene, JR..Billups averaged 21/4/7 and shot 47% from 3 in the Playoffs, Melo averaged 27/6/4 on 45% shooting in the POs, JR averaged 15 a game off the bench, again a better team than any of the teams Bran faced this season..

Houston was injured, but Yao averaged 20/11 in 3 games against us in that series and Lowry went off on us. Houston was 1-2 with Yao, 2-2 without him in that series :confusedshrug:, overall, you can compare the Houston squad to this year's Bulls Squad, where Pau only gave them ONE healthy game vs Cavs. Brooks played better than Rose and MWP on the same level as Butler.

Utah: Okur was injured and you still used his name to make Utah look good. AGENDA DETECTED.
Ak47 was hurt and you still used him. AGENDA DETECTED.
Prime Boozer :lol One of the worst defenders.
You forgot to mention Utah's starting center in the list of names you put : Jarron Collins. :applause:


Houston: No t-mac, No Yao, No Mutumbo.
6'7 Chuck hayes as center :lol
And can you explain how kyle lowry went off? He averaged 5.7 ppg, 3.1 ass on 35 % FG against lakers. AGENDA DETECTED

And nuggets had a career loser in melo leading them.
And old and almost retired Billups.
A cancer in K-mart.

[J Shuttlesworth]

Utah: Okur was injured and you still used his name to make Utah look good. AGENDA DETECTED.
Ak47 was hurt and you still used him. AGENDA DETECTED.
Prime Boozer :lol One of the worst defenders.
You forgot to mention Utah's starting center in the list of names you put : Jarron Collins. :applause:


Houston: No t-mac, No Yao, No Mutumbo.
6'7 Chuck hayes as center :lol
And can you explain how kyle lowry went off? He averaged 5 ppg in those playoffs.

And nuggets had a career loser in melo leading them.
And old and almost retired Billups.
A cancer in K-mart.
Holy.

****ing.

Ether.

[ISHGoat]

Utah: Okur was injured and you still used his name to make Utah look good. AGENDA DETECTED.
Ak47 was hurt and you still used him. AGENDA DETECTED.
Prime Boozer :lol One of the worst defenders.
You forgot to mention Utah's starting center in the list of names you put : Jarron Collins. :applause:


Houston: No t-mac, No Yao, No Mutumbo.
6'7 Chuck hayes as center :lol
And can you explain how kyle lowry went off? He averaged 5.7 ppg, 3.1 ass on 35 % FG against lakers. AGENDA DETECTED

And nuggets had a career loser in melo leading them.
And old and almost retired Billups.
A cancer in K-mart.

you could have just looked up and saw his username was ImKobe came to the same conclusion

[livinglegend]

BTW, Lakers 09 championship should have a HUGE * next to it. If Rockets without t-mac for the whole series, without Yao for 4 games and without Mutumbo took them to 7 games, that means they would have won the series if full healthy.

Another * next to a Kobe championship.

[Jacks3]

It's not even the easiest run to the Finals that LBJ has had lol.

[ImKobe]

Utah: Okur was injured and you still used his name to make Utah look good. AGENDA DETECTED.
Ak47 was hurt and you still used him. AGENDA DETECTED.
Prime Boozer :lol One of the worst defenders.
You forgot to mention Utah's starting center in the list of names you put : Jarron Collins. :applause:


Houston: No t-mac, No Yao, No Mutumbo.
6'7 Chuck hayes as center :lol
And can you explain how kyle lowry went off? He averaged 5.7 ppg, 3.1 ass on 35 % FG against lakers. AGENDA DETECTED

And nuggets had a career loser in melo leading them.
And old and almost retired Billups.
A cancer in K-mart.

AK47 was hurt? Boo-hoo, he played all games and put up respectable numbers, Deron and Boozer both went off on the Lakers and put up better numbers than Pau.

Houston had Yao for nearly half the series and he contributed more than Pau did for the Bulls in the semis this year, which was my point. Oops, I meant to say that Brooks went off on us, but in Game 4, Brooks and Lowry combined for 46 points which is more than half of what the Lakers put up, Brooks had 34 on 60% shooting and Lowry had 12 on 63% shooting.

Overall, Houston's defense is what kept them in that series for so long, Yao had 28 & 11 in their Game 1 win, Lowry with the 34 in Game 4 win and Scola with 24 & 11 in their Game 6 win...Rockets were a solid team and they were used to playing without T-Mac, who missed more than half the season and was garbage in the games he did play. Rockets were 20-15 with T-Mac playing, 33-14 without him.

6-7 Chuck Hayes started for the first time in Game 4, and had 9 rebounds and 4 steals and they won the game, he also had 5 steals in Game 7. He might have been undersized, but they were 2-2 with him as a starter vs 1-3 with Yao.

I love your convincing arguments as to why the Nuggets weren't a good team, because Melo has never won a ring :oldlol: and he wasn't their leader :roll: :roll:, it was obviously the proven Finals MVP Chauncey Billups who led the team to the WCF.

Billups wasn't old in 2009, he was only 32 and was an all-star that averaged 18 & 6 in the regular season and 21/4/7 in the Playoffs, and he was lights out from 3...

But nice try.

[ImKobe]

BTW, Lakers 09 championship should have a HUGE * next to it. If Rockets without t-mac for the whole series, without Yao for 4 games and without Mutumbo took them to 7 games, that means they would have won the series if full healthy.

Another * next to a Kobe championship.

No they wouldn't have. They had a worse record with T-Mac playing that year than without him, and T-Mac wasn't a good player since 07....do your homework

Mutombo? :roll: :roll: :roll: :facepalm :facepalm Dude was 42 years old and played 9 games all season :rolleyes:

1-2 with Yao playing, 2-2 without him, I'd say the extra minutes Scola and Hayes got actually made Houston a better team.