JR Smith out 2 games

[Beastmode88]

https://twitter.com/KennyDucey/status/592825576743903234

[Hey Yo]

SI NBA ‏@si_nba 7 minutes ago
NBA announces J.R. Smith suspended two games, Kelly Olynyk suspended one game for Game 4 incidents. K-Perk fined $15K

[Ca$H]

BS. Should have been 5 games. Silver doing Bran a favor. :facepalm

[outbreak]

should have been 4 or 5 easy

[Optimus Prime]

What a joke. Artest gets 6 games for a similar incident yet with an elbow.

Anything to bail out Beta Bran.

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2011/06/12/sports/basketball/12blog-2/12blog-2-blog480.jpg

:facepalm

[Wiltside]

2 games compared to Kelly's 1? :biggums:

[Fudge]

:roll:

League stays protecting LeBron's teams.

Absolutely pathetic.

[Megabox!]

:applause: just in time for the pivotal game 3 in Chiraq

[livinglegend]

:biggums:
No Smith, no varejao, no Love. If Cavs somehow win, biggest upset of last decade.

[J Shuttlesworth]

Ibaka got 0 games for punching Griffin in the nuts.

Olynyk only gets one game for dislocating someones shoulder. This league sucks

[sbw19]

Was bound to be 1-2 games after ruling out Love and Cavs not affording not having Smith for games 3-4 on the road. Cavs can manage at home.

[livinglegend]

Ibaka got 0 games for punching Griffin in the nuts.

Olynyk only gets one game for dislocating someones shoulder. This league sucks

Olynyk got 1 game? :biggums: :biggums: :biggums:

[Hey Yo]

Was bound to be 1-2 games after ruling out Love and Cavs not affording not having Smith for games 3-4 on the road. Cavs can manage at home.

I'm sure Cavs would be happy with a split at home and JR Swish back on the road.

[Taller than CP3]

time for Kyrie to explode and go for 70+

[MavsSuperFan]

wow that is so light. He basically punched crowder in the face. A better back hand than I see in most MMA fights

[Pushxx]

Nobody talked about how Perkins didn't get a suspension for two dirty moves back-to-back, including slapping someone in the face while being restrained...

LOL

[jimmy77x]

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[Roundball_Rock]

Pathetic. It should have been 4-5 games. The NBA, like they did with Westbrook after his 16th technical, is changing the rules to alter outcomes. Either have rules/policies and enforce them or don't have them. The NBA did not provide this leeway for Phoenix in the WCSF in 07'. Why pick and choose where to enforce and where to bend the rules?

[Beastmode88]

Pathetic. It should have been 4-5 games. The NBA, like they did with Westbrook after his 16th technical, is changing the rules to alter outcomes. Either have rules/policies and enforce them or don't have them. The NBA did not provide this leeway for Phoenix in the WCSF in 07'. Why pick and choose where to enforce and where to bend the rules?

lebron james.

[RedBlackAttack]

LOL @ anyone expecting anything more than 2 games. He got one game in 2013 for squaring up with a defender, looking him right in the eye and smacking him right in the jaw with his elbow. Had Crowder stumbled backward after the no-look spinning back-fist instead of crumbling to the ground, he would have probably just been ejected from the game with no further punishment.

Five games? GTFO

[Magic 32]

Just in time for the road games.

Disgraceful decision.

[Taller than CP3]

This is great news.

Hopefully more role players will start throwing elbows and knocking each other out. Would make the NBA a lot more competitive.

[Mr. Jabbar]

is this some kind of a joke?, metta got 7 games for basically the same

[PWB15]

Nobody talked about how Perkins didn't get a suspension for two dirty moves back-to-back, including slapping someone in the face while being restrained...

LOL


Perkins doesn't present an offensive threat so it doesnt matter

[Rose'sACL]

is this some kind of a joke?, metta got 7 games for basically the same
are you a joke for saying that MWP's elbowing harden is same as this? I am not even considering the fact that MWP's past was way more violent than JR's.

anyone who has been watching basketball for some time knew that the max Jr was going to get was 3 games given that these are the playoffs. it would have been 5-7 games in regular season.
This forum amazes me with its stupidity.

[PistonsFan#21]

is this some kind of a joke?, metta got 7 games for basically the same

Metta is also 6'7'' 260+ lbs. His elbow is much more deadly...

and yes size matters

[PistonsFan#21]

Nobody talked about how Perkins didn't get a suspension for two dirty moves back-to-back, including slapping someone in the face while being restrained...

LOL

Any link to the slap video? all i can see is him putting his finger in Crowder`s face

[edrick]

The haters are mad, shocking.

[red1]

LOL at all of these salty broads

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk161/darali_starscream/B3%20Stuff/james_4.jpg

[RedBlackAttack]

Any link to the slap video? all i can see is him putting his finger in Crowder`s face
There was never a slap. Someone said yesterday that BOTH JR and Perk should get suspended for the entire Bulls series. They were serious, too. :oldlol:

These are probably the same people who will argue that the league is "too soft" when it benefits their agenda/team.

[plowking]

I'm fine with the two games to Smith, but Olynyk getting a game? BS.

Dude did nothing wrong. Players tussle and push all the time. He didn't look like he even wanted to hurt the guy, or send a physical message, let alone injure him.

[Hey Yo]

Any link to the slap video? all i can see is him putting his finger in Crowder`s face
Looked more like a finger to the temple....weak sauce by Perk

[Magic 32]

LOL at all of these salty broads

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk161/darali_starscream/B3%20Stuff/james_4.jpg

Posting 2010 playoff pictures?

Makes sense. 2nd round exit.

[RedBlackAttack]

I'm fine with the two games to Smith, but Olynyk getting a game? BS.

Dude did nothing wrong. Players tussle and push all the time. He didn't look like he even wanted to hurt the guy, or send a physical message, let alone injure him.
One regular season game... poor guy.

[Beastmode88]

LOL @ anyone expecting anything more than 2 games. He got one game in 2013 for squaring up with a defender, looking him right in the eye and smacking him right in the jaw with his elbow. Had Crowder stumbled backward after the no-look spinning back-fist instead of crumbling to the ground, he would have probably just been ejected from the game with no further punishment.

Five games? GTFO

If this happened during the regular season you really think it would only be 2 games..?

[plowking]

One regular season game... poor guy.

The point is it doesn't make sense. He didn't do anything wrong.

It is like penalizing the guy who gets off better after a head to head collision just because of the outcome, not the actual act.

[Magic 32]

Hopefully Chicago can steal one of the first road games, and the suspension will drain all the confidence and rhythm out of JR.

It's time for "The Stacked One" to meet some resistance.

[JohnFreeman]

Two games is enough

[RedBlackAttack]

If this happened during the regular season you really think it would only be 2 games..?
1. It isn't the regular season so why is it relevant?

2. Two playoff games are equal to about 20 regular season games in terms of importance... probably more.

3. I maintain that the punishment has more to do with Crowder's dropping to the ground with his leg underneath him than the actual back-fist itself. It was a dirty play, but it caught Crowder in exactly the wrong spot and ended up looking 10x more malicious than it actually was.

4. Two playoff games is a HUGE penalty. Like I said yesterday, anyone anticipating more than 1-3 games was living in a dream world. I figured it would be 1-2 games. That was absolutely not a play worthy of a 4-5 game suspension. No way.

[red1]

Hopefully Chicago can steal one of the first road games, and the suspension will drain all the confidence and rhythm out of JR.

It's time for "The Stacked One" to meet some resistance.
:oldlol: keep crying broski

[Magic 32]

Bulls should sweep.
Anything less that that would be disappointing.

I think the whole world agree.

[Magic 32]

:oldlol: keep crying broski

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[Beastmode88]

1. It isn't the regular season so why is it relevant?

2. Two playoff games are equal to about 20 regular season games in terms of importance... probably more.

3. I maintain that the punishment has more to do with Crowder's dropping to the ground with his leg underneath him than the actual back-fist itself. It was a dirty play, but it caught Crowder in exactly the wrong spot and ended up looking 10x more malicious than it actually was.

4. Two playoff games is a HUGE penalty. Like I said yesterday, anyone anticipating more than 1-3 games was living in a dream world. I figured it would be 1-2 games. That was absolutely not a play worthy of a 4-5 game suspension. No way.

https://twitter.com/Matt_Barnes22/status/592831276157116417

[Blue&Orange]

this shit is hilarious, NBE gifted the cavs with 3 n

[longtime lurker]

How many games did Perkins get?

[RedBlackAttack]

The point is it doesn't make sense. He didn't do anything wrong.

It is like penalizing the guy who gets off better after a head to head collision just because of the outcome, not the actual act.
Obviously the league disagreed. I won't sit here and act like Olynyk intended to rip Love's arm out of its socket, but the problem with playing recklessly is that it can result in serious injuries.

Trapping of the arm happens all the time around the basket where guys are stationary. I'm not sure I've ever seen a guy running down court grab another guy who is chasing a loose ball, trap his arm in that fashion and yank... which is exactly what he did.

This is from the Grantland piece today...


Shout to Kelly Olynyk, who has become the latest overzealous scrub to alter the landscape of the Eastern Conference playoffs. Not that he did it on purpose. Not exactly.

With 5:22 remaining in the first quarter of Cleveland’s sweep of the never-say-die Celtics, Kevin Love became entangled with the pale, wavy-tressed Canadian personage of known non-thug Kelly Olynyk as the pair chased a rebound. Olynyk, out of position, attempted to execute the de rigueur big-man position jostle/dirt move wherein a player traps an opponent’s arm by pinning it between the arm and body. It was the kind of shady boxout jujitsu that’s deployed on the regular by practically every big guy in the NBA who’s any good. Names like Bogut, Z-Bo, and Griffin come to mind.

The difference being when those dudes trap a guy’s arm, it’s under relatively static circumstances — standing under the hoop, for example — and it lasts only a second. Love was running toward the ball, and after locking down on his arm, Olynyk held on and twisted in the opposite direction. Love’s shoulder popped out of its socket like the wing of a game fowl at dinnertime. Brian Windhorst reports the Cavs expect him to miss “a minimum of two weeks.”

Clearly, Olynyk meant to lock up Love’s arm, and certainly the move was of the dirty variety. Whether he actually meant Love any harm is a matter for telepaths. But Olynyk is just not that coordinated a player, nor a seasoned a grime-dealer as the aforementioned low-post wrasslers.

“Literally, if you ask anyone in our locker room, Kelly can’t box out to save his life,” said Evan Turner after the game. “No joke. He boxes out teammates like that all the time in practice.”

Which is all well and good, unless it’s your dude running to the locker room with his arm and your title hopes hanging on by a thread.

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/nba-playoffs-kevin-love-cleveland-boston/

The series was chippy all the way through, especially by the Celtics. I blame the officials for not getting a handle on it earlier in the series. After the Love incident, the Cavs basically lost their collective sh!t and were ready to brawl. It wasn't just about that one play... it had been building all series.

To not do anything to the guy who finally and fatally sent the series (and the Cavs championship hopes) spiraling out of control would have been to admonish the Celtics from their role in the spiral.

I also think the officials should be fined/suspended.

[Rose'sACL]

[QUOTE=Blue&Orange]this shit is hilarious, NBE gifted the cavs with 3 n

[red1]

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Just in time for the road games.

Disgraceful decision.


Posting 2010 playoff pictures?

Makes sense. 2nd round exit.


Hopefully Chicago can steal one of the first road games, and the suspension will drain all the confidence and rhythm out of JR.

It's time for "The Stacked One" to meet some resistance.


I think the whole world agree.

never change :oldlol:

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[christian1923]

He's never going to learn his lesson with these pity punishments

[Beastmode88]

are you an idiot? playoff games carry more importance than regular season.

of course, if he was on the knicks he would get about 7-10 games at least given that it would have to happen in the regular season.

so why not have enforcers from the bench giving out hits on starters if they're only going to lose 1 game in the playoffs. there's like 0 punishment

[Magic 32]

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That's not crying. That protesting injustice.

Same reason I have protested Lebron's entire career.

[Rose'sACL]

so why not have enforcers from the bench giving out hits on starters if they're only going to lose 1 game in the playoffs. there's like 0 punishment
because teams are scared that the other team would do the same to their best player?
Players, GMs and coaches don't forget. if cavs really wanted, they would have told perkins to straight up punch someone in front of him and let him be suspended for 7 games like MWP. This shit doesn't happen because teams know that it will backfire in the future when they have a star on their team.

[Rose'sACL]

That's not crying. That protesting injustice.

Same reason I have protested Lebron's entire career.
classic. lol. you clearly don't like basketball. your only joy in life is to hope that a top 10 player of all time doesn't do well.
i am sure you *** buckets whenever lebron loses a game.
do you see me shitting on any player on this forum. you are basically dubeta but you make less threads these days given that lakers suck.

[ihatetimthomas]

1. It isn't the regular season so why is it relevant?

2. Two playoff games are equal to about 20 regular season games in terms of importance... probably more.

3. I maintain that the punishment has more to do with Crowder's dropping to the ground with his leg underneath him than the actual back-fist itself. It was a dirty play, but it caught Crowder in exactly the wrong spot and ended up looking 10x more malicious than it actually was.

4. Two playoff games is a HUGE penalty. Like I said yesterday, anyone anticipating more than 1-3 games was living in a dream world. I figured it would be 1-2 games. That was absolutely not a play worthy of a 4-5 game suspension. No way.

Dude maliciously wound up a closed fist swinging backfist. Thats a MMA move. The momentum that picks up when you swing like that is meant for knocking people out. JR knew exactly what he was doing, that wasn't on accident. You don't wind up that swing without thinking you are making contact. Was he winding up and aiming at head level hoping to hit air? You are really blind if you think he didn't mean to connect on that punch. Its a very dirty move, especially when a person isn't expecting a punch, he couldst been hurt even more. To downplay a hit like that is ridiculous, even if he is on the team you are rooting for.

[Solefade]

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nah like this

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[red1]

That's not crying. That protesting injustice.

Same reason I have protested Lebron's entire career.
bro you're still doing it :lol

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[RedBlackAttack]

Dude maliciously wound up a closed fist swinging backfist. Thats a MMA move. The momentum that picks up when you swing like that is meant for knocking people out. JR knew exactly what he was doing, that wasn't on accident. You don't wind up that swing without thinking you are making contact. Was he winding up and aiming at head level hoping to hit air? You are really blind if you think he didn't mean to connect on that punch. Its a very dirty move, especially when a person isn't expecting a punch, he couldst been hurt even more. To downplay a hit like that is ridiculous, even if he is on the team you are rooting for.
I said it was dirty in the post you quoted. Two games is an adequate punishment. That's pretty severe when you're talking about two playoff games.

The officials played a huge role in the series getting out of control. Not to absolve JR for punching Crowder because it was incredibly stupid and dirty, but had the officials called one of the three pushes to his back, it wouldn't have gotten to that.

JR's actions didn't help anyone... it hurt the Cavs, obviously hurt Crowder, and soiled what had been a great story with JR fitting in so well on this roster. It was bad for the game. But, that was not worthy of 3-5 playoff games. I said the same thing last night way before I knew what the punishment was going to be... but, stepping back and looking at the play, it looked like something like a 1-2 game punishment. That's what it ended up being.

[Beastmode88]

because teams are scared that the other team would do the same to their best player?
Players, GMs and coaches don't forget. if cavs really wanted, they would have told perkins to straight up punch someone in front of him and let him be suspended for 7 games like MWP. This shit doesn't happen because teams know that it will backfire in the future when they have a star on their team.

wait so olynyk got a 1 REGULAR season game suspension for love's injury but jr got 2 PLAYOFF games suspension for knocking someone out? jr has had multiple prior offenses:

thabo - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWE0-hQi4Qc
terry - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3W7wxjCKeME
bayless - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvAiALiKCCM
rice - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koDQe6JdWCg
stephenson - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpEMlK9jIiQ
bell - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXr9RZwkEtk
barnes - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWlzaNuF4_c
ivey - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnV4sFG9xFU
knicks vs nuggets brawl - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbjFBMKcNY4
thompson - https://youtu.be/fEe-FtES140?t=1m28s

ALSO SHOE LACES

you going to let a clown like that get away with 2 games because it's THE PLAYOFFS? While Artest got 7 games in the PLAYOFFS for elbowing harden in the face?

[RedBlackAttack]

wait so olynyk got a 1 REGULAR season game suspension for love's injury but jr got 2 PLAYOFF games suspension for knocking someone out? jr has had multiple prior offenses:

thabo - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWE0-hQi4Qc
terry - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3W7wxjCKeME
bayless - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvAiALiKCCM
rice - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koDQe6JdWCg
stephenson - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpEMlK9jIiQ
bell - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXr9RZwkEtk
barnes - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWlzaNuF4_c
ivey - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnV4sFG9xFU
knicks vs nuggets brawl - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbjFBMKcNY4
thompson - https://youtu.be/fEe-FtES140?t=1m28s

ALSO SHOE LACES

you going to let a clown like that get away with 2 games because it's THE PLAYOFFS? While Artest got 7 games in the PLAYOFFS for elbowing harden in the face?

Artest's elbow wasn't even during a freaking play. He did it as part of a celebration. :oldlol:

http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/ron-artest-elbow-harden.gif

That coupled with the fact that Artest's prior bad acts make JR Smith look like a choir boy... Yeah, not really relevant. Artest was the main catalyst in the ugliest incident in NBA history.

At least JR Smith was actually fighting for a rebound when the dirtiness happened.

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There's really no comparison.

[bobopenguin]

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[Beastmode88]

JR's history
11/5/14: The NBA suspended J.R. Smith (NY) for 1 game for striking Glen Rice (Was) in the groin during Tuesday's NY-Was game.
1/8/14: The NBA fined J.R. Smith (NY) $50,000 for "recurring instances of unsportsmanlike conduct." Smith untied Shawn Marion's (Dal) shoe during Sunday's Dal-NY game and (after being warned by the NBA to stop) tried to untie Greg Monroe's (Det) shoe during Tuesday's NY-Det game.
11/15/13: The NBA fined J.R. Smith (NY) $25,000 for directing hostile and inappropriate comments towards Brandon Jennings (Det) on Smith's twitter account.
9/6/13: The NBA suspended J.R. Smith for 5 games for violating the NBA anti-drug program.
5/10/13: The NBA fined J.R. Smith (NY) $5,000 for his flop during Sunday's Ind-NY game.
4/27/13: The NBA suspended J.R. Smith (NY) for 1 game for throwing an elbow at Jason Terry (Bos) during Friday's Bos-NY game.
3/10/12: The NBA fined J.R. Smith (NY) $25,000 for posting a picture of a scantily clad woman on his Twitter account.
2/5/11: The NBA fined J.R. Smith (Den) $25,000 for his flagrant foul on Raja Bell (Uta) during Friday's Den-Uta game.
8/28/09: The NBA suspended J.R. Smith (Den) for 7 games for his guilty plea this summer for reckless driving from a 2007 car accident that results in the death of a passenger in the car.
10/20/07: Denver suspended J.R. Smith for the first 3 games of the regular season for conduct detrimental to the team.
12/18/06: The NBA handed down the suspensions for Saturday's Denver-New York fight and, as expected, the penalties were harsh. Carmelo Anthony (Den) was suspended for 15 games (throwing a punch at Collins). J.R. Smith (Den) and Nate Robinson (NY) were suspended for 10 games each (their scuffle ended up in the front row of fans). Mardy Collins (NY) was suspended for 6 games (his the flagrant foul started the whole thing). Jared Jeffries (NY) was suspended for 4 games (he aggressively tried to get at Anthony). Nene (Den) and Jerome James (NY) were suspended for 1 game each for leaving the bench during the incident (automatic suspensions, they did not participate in any altercations). In addition, the league fined the 2 teams $500,000 each.

source: https://www.eskimo.com/~pbender/fines.html

2 games sounds justified (that was sarcastic)

[Hey Yo]

wait so olynyk got a 1 REGULAR season game suspension for love's injury but jr got 2 PLAYOFF games suspension for knocking someone out? jr has had multiple prior offenses:

thabo - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWE0-hQi4Qc
terry - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3W7wxjCKeME
bayless - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvAiALiKCCM
rice - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koDQe6JdWCg
stephenson - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpEMlK9jIiQ
bell - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXr9RZwkEtk
barnes - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWlzaNuF4_c
ivey - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnV4sFG9xFU
knicks vs nuggets brawl - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbjFBMKcNY4
thompson - https://youtu.be/fEe-FtES140?t=1m28s

ALSO SHOE LACES

you going to let a clown like that get away with 2 games because it's THE PLAYOFFS? While Artest got 7 games in the PLAYOFFS for elbowing harden in the face?
LOL @ Don emphasizing in all Caps "ALSO SHOE LACES"

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[Rose'sACL]

JR's history
11/5/14: The NBA suspended J.R. Smith (NY) for 1 game for striking Glen Rice (Was) in the groin during Tuesday's NY-Was game.
1/8/14: The NBA fined J.R. Smith (NY) $50,000 for "recurring instances of unsportsmanlike conduct." Smith untied Shawn Marion's (Dal) shoe during Sunday's Dal-NY game and (after being warned by the NBA to stop) tried to untie Greg Monroe's (Det) shoe during Tuesday's NY-Det game.
11/15/13: The NBA fined J.R. Smith (NY) $25,000 for directing hostile and inappropriate comments towards Brandon Jennings (Det) on Smith's twitter account.
9/6/13: The NBA suspended J.R. Smith for 5 games for violating the NBA anti-drug program.
5/10/13: The NBA fined J.R. Smith (NY) $5,000 for his flop during Sunday's Ind-NY game.
4/27/13: The NBA suspended J.R. Smith (NY) for 1 game for throwing an elbow at Jason Terry (Bos) during Friday's Bos-NY game.
3/10/12: The NBA fined J.R. Smith (NY) $25,000 for posting a picture of a scantily clad woman on his Twitter account.
2/5/11: The NBA fined J.R. Smith (Den) $25,000 for his flagrant foul on Raja Bell (Uta) during Friday's Den-Uta game.
8/28/09: The NBA suspended J.R. Smith (Den) for 7 games for his guilty plea this summer for reckless driving from a 2007 car accident that results in the death of a passenger in the car.
10/20/07: Denver suspended J.R. Smith for the first 3 games of the regular season for conduct detrimental to the team.
12/18/06: The NBA handed down the suspensions for Saturday's Denver-New York fight and, as expected, the penalties were harsh. Carmelo Anthony (Den) was suspended for 15 games (throwing a punch at Collins). J.R. Smith (Den) and Nate Robinson (NY) were suspended for 10 games each (their scuffle ended up in the front row of fans). Mardy Collins (NY) was suspended for 6 games (his the flagrant foul started the whole thing). Jared Jeffries (NY) was suspended for 4 games (he aggressively tried to get at Anthony). Nene (Den) and Jerome James (NY) were suspended for 1 game each for leaving the bench during the incident (automatic suspensions, they did not participate in any altercations). In addition, the league fined the 2 teams $500,000 each.

source: https://www.eskimo.com/~pbender/fines.html

2 games sounds justified (that was sarcastic)
So guy got 7 games for reckless driving resulting in death of a friend and now you think he should get the same for this? MWP got 7 games for his harden elbow so anyone who knew this would tell you that 3 games was the max JR was going to get. He got 2. Be angry.

[qrich]

Two games for this is an absolute joke and shows bias. If this were Matt Barnes, he'd get five games, if not seven, and Smith's history is quite as negative as Barnes', if not worse.

Olynyk getting a suspension as well is just as pathetic. If he was the one who ended with the injury, Love wouldn't have gotten suspended.

The bias :facepalm

[Hey Yo]

Two games for this is an absolute joke and shows bias. If this were Matt Barnes, he'd get five games, if not seven, and Smith's history is quite as negative as Barnes', if not worse.

Olynyk getting a suspension as well is just as pathetic. If he was the one who ended with the injury, Love wouldn't have gotten suspended.

The bias :facepalm
Stick to................................................ .........soccer

[Beastmode88]

Two games for this is an absolute joke and shows bias. If this were Matt Barnes, he'd get five games, if not seven, and Smith's history is quite as negative as Barnes', if not worse.

Olynyk getting a suspension as well is just as pathetic. If he was the one who ended with the injury, Love wouldn't have gotten suspended.

The bias :facepalm

https://twitter.com/Matt_Barnes22/status/592831276157116417

[qrich]

https://twitter.com/Matt_Barnes22/status/592831276157116417

He's going to get fined for that :facepalm

[JebronLames]

why wasn't manu suspended for elbowing LeBron in the throat in game 6 2013 finals? It was called a common foul.

[Meticode]

Cavs got lucky, but I think Shumpert will fit in fine. All he needs to do is shoot decent from three (hell, I'll take 35%). And just stay with Butler/Rose and give 100%.

[TheMarkMadsen]

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wow that is honestly pathetic

[Beastmode88]

LOL @ Don emphasizing in all Caps "ALSO SHOE LACES"

http://brucegreyfirst.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/lovejoy-think-of-the-children-16nov131.jpg

don huh, you and lebron23 are the only one that calls me that. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: you the same dumb pinoy?

[KG215]

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It's pretty obvious Ariza hit LeBron right in his pride.

[gts]

He's going to get fined for that :facepalm

Barnes is an idiot always has been always will be
I can't wait for his post NBA life :lol

[raprap]

2 games against the bucks wont matter. :rockon:

[bdreason]

2 games for knocking a guy out with a closed fist?



Cavs should just send Perkins out there in game 1 and have him KO Jimmy Butler to improve their chances of winning the series.

[RedBlackAttack]

JR's history
11/5/14: The NBA suspended J.R. Smith (NY) for 1 game for striking Glen Rice (Was) in the groin during Tuesday's NY-Was game.
1/8/14: The NBA fined J.R. Smith (NY) $50,000 for "recurring instances of unsportsmanlike conduct." Smith untied Shawn Marion's (Dal) shoe during Sunday's Dal-NY game and (after being warned by the NBA to stop) tried to untie Greg Monroe's (Det) shoe during Tuesday's NY-Det game.
11/15/13: The NBA fined J.R. Smith (NY) $25,000 for directing hostile and inappropriate comments towards Brandon Jennings (Det) on Smith's twitter account.
9/6/13: The NBA suspended J.R. Smith for 5 games for violating the NBA anti-drug program.
5/10/13: The NBA fined J.R. Smith (NY) $5,000 for his flop during Sunday's Ind-NY game.
4/27/13: The NBA suspended J.R. Smith (NY) for 1 game for throwing an elbow at Jason Terry (Bos) during Friday's Bos-NY game.
3/10/12: The NBA fined J.R. Smith (NY) $25,000 for posting a picture of a scantily clad woman on his Twitter account.
2/5/11: The NBA fined J.R. Smith (Den) $25,000 for his flagrant foul on Raja Bell (Uta) during Friday's Den-Uta game.
8/28/09: The NBA suspended J.R. Smith (Den) for 7 games for his guilty plea this summer for reckless driving from a 2007 car accident that results in the death of a passenger in the car.
10/20/07: Denver suspended J.R. Smith for the first 3 games of the regular season for conduct detrimental to the team.
12/18/06: The NBA handed down the suspensions for Saturday's Denver-New York fight and, as expected, the penalties were harsh. Carmelo Anthony (Den) was suspended for 15 games (throwing a punch at Collins). J.R. Smith (Den) and Nate Robinson (NY) were suspended for 10 games each (their scuffle ended up in the front row of fans). Mardy Collins (NY) was suspended for 6 games (his the flagrant foul started the whole thing). Jared Jeffries (NY) was suspended for 4 games (he aggressively tried to get at Anthony). Nene (Den) and Jerome James (NY) were suspended for 1 game each for leaving the bench during the incident (automatic suspensions, they did not participate in any altercations). In addition, the league fined the 2 teams $500,000 each.

source: https://www.eskimo.com/~pbender/fines.html

2 games sounds justified (that was sarcastic)

Is this list supposed to be an indication that JR Smith is Artest-like in any way, shape or form? If so, allow me to quickly end this back-and-forth...


You listed 7 suspensions and 5 fines for Smith over the course of his career prior to yesterday's incident.


Artest has been suspended 13 times including being the main instigator and catalyst in the darkest, most violent incident in the history of the NBA.

Want the countdown? Here you go...

[Optimus Prime]

For being a goon, Barnes is right. Since JR is one of LeBeta's Superfriends, he gets off lightly.

Olynyk got one less game for...what exactly? Inadvertently injuring one of LeBeta's Superfriends while JR literally punched a guy in the face, knocked him down and injured him?

:kobe:

[qrich]

Barnes is an idiot always has been always will be
I can't wait for his post NBA life :lol

He's right tho

[ihatetimthomas]

I said it was dirty in the post you quoted. Two games is an adequate punishment. That's pretty severe when you're talking about two playoff games.

The officials played a huge role in the series getting out of control. Not to absolve JR for punching Crowder because it was incredibly stupid and dirty, but had the officials called one of the three pushes to his back, it wouldn't have gotten to that.

JR's actions didn't help anyone... it hurt the Cavs, obviously hurt Crowder, and soiled what had been a great story with JR fitting in so well on this roster. It was bad for the game. But, that was not worthy of 3-5 playoff games. I said the same thing last night way before I knew what the punishment was going to be... but, stepping back and looking at the play, it looked like something like a 1-2 game punishment. That's what it ended up being.

Yeah maybe the officials should've done something to calm the game down but cmon man, the officials didn't make JR strike crowder. That was all JR Smith. I don't care if the officials should have tried to control the game more. It was ALL him. He is the one who decided to swing for the fences on that hit. Had he decided not to make a dirty ass play, this all wouldn't have happened. Making a dirty play has nothing to do with officials.

If 2 games is what the NBA decided to throw at him, then so be it. They have a better understanding of the situation so who am i to complain. Only thing I will object to is when people try to make excuses for him or try to in anyway justify his actions. He is a dirty player and it was a dirty play with malicious intent.

[Pointguard]

If its means anything, JR will likely comeback totally unfocused and making mistakes. That's been the NY experience with him.

[brandonislegend]

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:roll: wtf

[LA_Showtime]

He deserves to miss the semifinals with the stunt he pulled but you can't blame the NBA for only giving the guy two games. Goodness, though... only two guys for literally knocking a guy out. :lol

[RedBlackAttack]

Yeah maybe the officials should've done something to calm the game down but cmon man, the officials didn't make JR strike crowder. That was all JR Smith. I don't care if the officials should have tried to control the game more. It was ALL him. He is the one who decided to swing for the fences on that hit. Had he decided not to make a dirty ass play, this all wouldn't have happened. Making a dirty play has nothing to do with officials.

If 2 games is what the NBA decided to throw at him, then so be it. They have a better understanding of the situation so who am i to complain. Only thing I will object to is when people try to make excuses for him or try to in anyway justify his actions. He is a dirty player and it was a dirty play with malicious intent.
I agree it was dirty and I agree there was malicious intent. I'm fine with the 2 game suspension, which I think is a legitimate statement by the league. That's going to really hurt the Cavs and it's all about JR's stupidity.

I do think the officials played a big role in ALL of the issues yesterday... from Olynyk's arm wrench to Perk's screen/poke to JR's spinning back-fist. The explosion of incidents yesterday could be seen from a mile away for anyone who had been watching that series.

I mean, even after all of that stuff happened, the officials were looking the other way while Isaiah Thomas grabbed LeBron as he was trying to inbound the ball... no whistle. Then, on the very next inbounds play, Irving's jersey was clearly grabbed and pulled prior to the ball glancing off his hands... no whistle.

It was like that all series. And, I'm not even saying that it was all generated from the Celtics, although they were obviously scratching and clawing for four games because they had to... in order to stay in the series. I don't even blame them. You can only do as much as the officials will allow and they let things get way too out-of-hand, even after Crowder was KTFO.


If its means anything, JR will likely comeback totally unfocused and making mistakes. That's been the NY experience with him.

New York always relied way too much on JR. When you do that, you're asking for trouble because he is a bone-head of the highest order. The great thing about his situation in Cleveland is that he can be unfocused and make mistakes and it won't kill us... He'll just be replaced by Shump earlier than usual.

I really don't see that as being a problem.

[Eric Cartman]

Not mad at this, just hope that it is consistent when it next occurs.

[funnystuff]

A league where dislocating a shoulder is less of an offense then hitting someone whilst looking the opposite direction. :facepalm

[gilalizard]

Not mad at this, just hope that it is consistent when it next occurs.

Depends on the team.

If it's someone from LeFlop's team, it will be a consistently weaker punishment. Any other team and they'll have the book thrown at them.

The league helping out LeFlop as usual.

[kamil]

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Red1 just got burned out of this thread.

[Paul George 24]

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DAMN :roll:

[sportjames23]

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:roll: :roll: :roll:

[cltcfn2924]

1. It isn't the regular season so why is it relevant?

2. Two playoff games are equal to about 20 regular season games in terms of importance... probably more.

3. I maintain that the punishment has more to do with Crowder's dropping to the ground with his leg underneath him than the actual back-fist itself. It was a dirty play, but it caught Crowder in exactly the wrong spot and ended up looking 10x more malicious than it actually was.

4. Two playoff games is a HUGE penalty. Like I said yesterday, anyone anticipating more than 1-3 games was living in a dream world. I figured it would be 1-2 games. That was absolutely not a play worthy of a 4-5 game suspension. No way.


It LOOKED more malicious than it was? Any fist to the face head area is intolerable, unless you play for Leflop apparently.

[Eric Cartman]

RBA you need something to stand on, call the leg warehouse

[cltcfn2924]

I said it was dirty in the post you quoted. Two games is an adequate punishment. That's pretty severe when you're talking about two playoff games.

The officials played a huge role in the series getting out of control. Not to absolve JR for punching Crowder because it was incredibly stupid and dirty, but had the officials called one of the three pushes to his back, it wouldn't have gotten to that.

JR's actions didn't help anyone... it hurt the Cavs, obviously hurt Crowder, and soiled what had been a great story with JR fitting in so well on this roster. It was bad for the game. But, that was not worthy of 3-5 playoff games. I said the same thing last night way before I knew what the punishment was going to be... but, stepping back and looking at the play, it looked like something like a 1-2 game punishment. That's what it ended up being.


You say not to absolve then immediately absolve. Sigh.

[winwin]

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[RoundMoundOfReb]

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Not a flop. Headbutted in the eye.

[ArbitraryWater]

:biggums:
No Smith, no varejao, no Love. If Cavs somehow win, biggest upset of last decade.

:biggums:

Look, it's only Love, Smith is suspended for 2...

Anyway, how does Olynyk only get one? :oldlol:

Ibaka got 0 for punching Griffin in the nuts... IN THE PLAYOFFS.

Btw, I'll be honest, I just saw the thing for the first time, via GIF, and I was surprised, I expected much worse... people want more than 2 games for that? Lmao.. it makes no sense relative to their judgement on prior acts.


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do people not see their heads hitting?

[El Gato Negro]

Jr should have just turned around and ripped his arm out of the socket, then it would have been cool with the nba. Cant wait to see other teams start doing this at the end of series, 1 regular season game suspension is a complete joke. FU silver you biased ***, all perk and jr did was react as grown men who were trying to be bullied. This is 100% on those sheet refs and the nba but they didn't even admit that. The fuks will take advantage too who wants to bet the cavs and the Boston cheapshots open next season :facepalm

[BigNBAfan]

RBA is the biggest crock of shit homer on this board... claims hes a cavs fan before a lebron one but would put his life on the line to defend lebrons hairline regardless of the team he's playing for.

Makes bullshit claims and backs it up with bullshit numbers
So apparently 1 playoff game = 10 regular season games now?
Someone gets punched in the face with a known martial arts move and it was the way they fell that caused the suspension?


this is all facepalm worthy

[RoundMoundOfReb]

1 playoff game is like 5 regular season games if you're on a team like the Cavs. Suspension is perfectly adequate.

[salwan]

RBA strikes again with his mental gymnastics :applause: :applause:

love the way he first makes a statement to sound unbiased and then sneakingly proceeds to undermine it in the following paragraph :applause:

he did the same while hinting that love's injury was intentional, and downplaying jr's/perkins' plays as 'retallation that could be seen from a mile away'. 'If the contact to Crowder had come first, it would be a different story.':lol

GTFO with that passive-aggressive bs.

the perkins and smith incidents were much much worse than olynyk's. you are just butthurt that the outcome hurts your team's chances. well, deal with it.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

RBA is low-key a HUGE homer. Never seen him not take the obvious-homer position.

[Meticode]

RBA strikes again with his mental gymnastics :applause: :applause:

love the way he first makes a statement to sound unbiased and then sneakingly proceeds to undermine it in the following paragraph :applause:

he did the same while hinting that love's injury was intentional, and downplaying jr's/perkins' plays as 'retallation that could be seen from a mile away'. 'If the contact to Crowder had come first, it would be a different story.':lol

GTFO with that passive-aggressive bs.

the perkins and smith incidents were much much worse than olynyk's. you are just butthurt that the outcome hurts your team's chances. well, deal with it.
I'm not supporting RBA or not supporitng him, but your post comes off as a sheep. You don't post shit until other people start making claims about RBA. :oldlol: Then you pass off this paragraph as if it's something original calling out someone when it's not.

[salwan]

I'm not supporting RBA or not supporitng him, but your post comes off as a sheep. You don't post shit until other people start making claims about RBA. :oldlol: Then you pass off this paragraph as if it's something original calling out someone when it's not.


congrats, you just made the same passive-aggresive sneaky thing I mentoned with your first sentence :lol
we all know you are defending your fellow cavs fan with your post.

second, I called him out yesterday in another thread and was defending olynyk on the day the incident happened.

basically, your post is a waste of bites.

[poido123]

LOL @ anyone expecting anything more than 2 games. He got one game in 2013 for squaring up with a defender, looking him right in the eye and smacking him right in the jaw with his elbow. Had Crowder stumbled backward after the no-look spinning back-fist instead of crumbling to the ground, he would have probably just been ejected from the game with no further punishment.

Five games? GTFO



That was an ugly incident and one that could of led to another all out brawl like the Malace in the Palace. You sucker punch someone like that and it can get pretty messy quickly. Only that this is Mr "suck up the NBA's ass by being an ambassador of the NBA for future favours like this one" James. He didn't befriend Adam Silver because he genuinely likes the guy, Lebron is always calculated and looking to create an advantage in all situations so he doesn't have to face adversity.


That punch to the face is a minimum 5 game suspension.


NBA concerned that their biggest money spinning series won't go the 7 if they suspend Smith for 5 games or even the whole series.

[Meticode]

congrats, you just made the same passive-aggresive sneaky thing I mentoned with your first sentence :lol
we all know you are defending your fellow cavs fan with your post.

second, I called him out yesterday in another thread and was defending olynyk on the day the incident happened.

basically, your post is a waste of bites.
I think out of all the Cavaliers fans on this board, at least the true ones, I stand at the opposite end of things away from RBA the most. We butt heads and debate a ton. Defending him isn't my goal in that post, it's calling you out as a sheep. Which you are being.

[poido123]

RBA is low-key a HUGE homer. Never seen him not take the obvious-homer position.


This and he strongly denies it, while all of us have encountered his extreme homerism in one way or another. I show mine too, but I'm also not a moderator who is responsible for maintaining some level non-bias.


I got banned for daring to oppose his opinion in a Cavs game thread and defending a fellow Bulls fan over his bullshit power trip.


RBA is a smart guy with plenty of knowledge, but he's a poor moderator.

[Sakkreth]

for bitch slap two games, but for locking up an arm and purposely injuring one game ? :facepalm

[poido123]

for bitch slap two games, but for locking up an arm and purposely injuring one game ? :facepalm


Kelly 10 games or more, smith 5 games or more



simple

[Sakkreth]

Kelly 10 games or more, smith 5 games or more



simple

Regular season games vs playoffs 2nd round games while both did this in playoffs ?

[salwan]

I think out of all the Cavaliers fans on this board, at least the true ones, I stand at the opposite end of things away from RBA the most. We butt heads and debate a ton. Defending him isn't my goal in that post, it's calling you out as a sheep. Which you are being.

fair enough.

but if you have nothing else to contribute with than pointing out the obvious order of posts calling out RBA's double-standards and calling people sheep on the basis of that order, then you are being the silly sheep :hammerhead:

[DukeDelonte13]

:confusedshrug: i have no problem with either of the suspensions handed out.


JR got off lucky.

KO's suspension was fair. NBA pretty much acknowledged what KO did was a dirty non-basketball play, yet not necessarily malicious.

JR's was straight up malicious. He could have justifiably gotten a lot more IMO.

[2swift4u]

to me there's a difference between punching somebody straight into the face and swinging your arm and hitting a guy behind you. Honestly chances weren't that big that he would hit him exactly in his face and knock him out like it happened. Of course it was a bitch move but to me a 2 games suspension is about ok because it seemed to me that he simply wanted to get rid of Crowder who pushed him twice or three times before J.R swung his arm.

[Hey Yo]

That was an ugly incident and one that could of led to another all out brawl like the Malace in the Palace. You sucker punch someone like that and it can get pretty messy quickly. Only that this is Mr "suck up the NBA's ass by being an ambassador of the NBA for future favours like this one" James. He didn't befriend Adam Silver because he genuinely likes the guy, Lebron is always calculated and looking to create an advantage in all situations so he doesn't have to face adversity.


That punch to the face is a minimum 5 game suspension.


NBA concerned that their biggest money spinning series won't go the 7 if they suspend Smith for 5 games or even the whole series.
How fu**ing funny it is to see an MJ fan :cry: and severely pissed off cause he thinks an NBA player is getting special treatment.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

[greymatter]

That was an ugly incident and one that could of led to another all out brawl like the Malace in the Palace. You sucker punch someone like that and it can get pretty messy quickly. Only that this is Mr "suck up the NBA's ass by being an ambassador of the NBA for future favours like this one" James. He didn't befriend Adam Silver because he genuinely likes the guy, Lebron is always calculated and looking to create an advantage in all situations so he doesn't have to face adversity.


That punch to the face is a minimum 5 game suspension.


NBA concerned that their biggest money spinning series won't go the 7 if they suspend Smith for 5 games or even the whole series.

That wasn't a sucker punch. It was a blind swing. A sucker punch would be if JR were looking (as in with his eyes) to plant his fist in Crowder's face when Crowder wasn't expecting it.

Some retards will never understand that there's a big difference between outcome vs intent. Looks like the league weighs both when considering suspensions. If Love's shoulder weren't dislocated, retarded looking Hippie Boy doesn't get suspended. If JR's backswing catches Crowder across his chest, it's just a tech or ejection, no suspension. If JR threw a punch while actually facing someone and looking to connect --regardless of hitting or missing-- he's guaranteed a suspension.

[Hittin_Shots]

That wasn't a sucker punch. It was a blind swing. A sucker punch would be if JR were looking (as in with his eyes) to plant his fist in Crowder's face when Crowder wasn't expecting it.

Some retards will never understand that there's a big difference between outcome vs intent.

He knows he's there clearly he's on his back..

[Droid101]

for bitch slap two games, but for locking up an arm and purposely injuring one game ? :facepalm
LOL

That ****ing play happens every damn game. Dudes wrapping their arms around other dude's arms in order to keep them grounded so they don't get a board. Every. Damn. Game.

This time, it caused an injury. Fluke shit happens, but don't act like this is some kind of malicious attack.

[Derka]

That wasn't a sucker punch. It was a blind swing. A sucker punch would be if JR were looking (as in with his eyes) to plant his fist in Crowder's face when Crowder wasn't expecting it.

Some retards will never understand that there's a big difference between outcome vs intent. On that note, the stupid looking hippie didn't deserve a suspension.

He 100% knew he was up against someone behind him waiting for a rebound. He swung knowing full well that he wasn't boxing out his own teammate. He knew full well it was a Celtic player on his back before he took a swing.

[Crimsonrain777]

That wasn't a sucker punch. It was a blind swing. A sucker punch would be if JR were looking (as in with his eyes) to plant his fist in Crowder's face when Crowder wasn't expecting it.

Some retards will never understand that there's a big difference between outcome vs intent. Looks like the league weighs both when considering suspensions. If Love's shoulder weren't dislocated, retarded looking Hippie Boy doesn't get suspended. If JR's backswing catches Crowder across his chest, it's just a tech or ejection, no suspension. If JR threw a punch while actually facing someone and looking to connect --regardless of hitting or missing-- he's guaranteed a suspension.


Why did he throw a "blind swing"?

what exactly is the point of a blind swing in a basketball game?

also, if he was looking to hit someone with his blind swing then that makes it a sucker punch.

last thing, dont use the word retarded so loosely if you yourself fail at interpreting a situation that isn't difficult to make sense of.

[Doranku]

2 games for knocking a guy out with a closed fist?



Cavs should just send Perkins out there in game 1 and have him KO Jimmy Butler to improve their chances of winning the series.
Yeah and if they do it early on in the series, I'm sure they'll have him back for the ECF so he can do the same to Millsap/Horford.

[ProfessorMurder]

LOL

That ****ing play happens every damn game. Dudes wrapping their arms around other dude's arms in order to keep them grounded so they don't get a board. Every. Damn. Game.

This time, it caused an injury. Fluke shit happens, but don't act like this is some kind of malicious attack.
Kelly is the biggest thug known to man. He only plays professional basketball because the MMA organizations banned him from competition due to incredible danger to fellow athletes.

[ProfessorMurder]

do people not see their heads hitting?

Do you not see him continue to drive, then realize he lost the ball, and then fall back in 'pain'?

Dude must have some nervous system issues if he can take a blow like that and not react immediately.

[ballup]

Players now afraid to go into the paint against Olynyk in fear of having their arm torn off. Wow DPOY and MIP of next season.

[ProfessorMurder]

Players now afraid to go into the paint against Olynyk in fear of having their arm torn off. Wow DPOY and MIP of next season.
C's don't need to make a move for a rim protector anymore!