1992 Jordan vs 2012 LeBron?

[NBAplayoffs2001]

1992 Jordan:
Regular Season MVP - 30.1 pts 6.4 trb 6.1 asts 2.3 stls 0.9 blocks on 52%/27%/83% shooting (fg/3pt/ft)
3rd in voting for DPOY
Won the Olympic Gold
Finals MVP- 35.8 pts 4.8 trb 6.5 asts 1.7 sts 0.3 blks - on 53%/43%/89%.

2012 LeBron
Regular Season MVP - 27.1 pts 7.9 trb 6.2 asts 1.9 stl 0.8 blks - on 53%/36%/77% shooting (fg/3pt/ft)
4th in voting for DPOY
Won the Olympic Gold
Finals MVP 28.6 pts 10.2 rbs 7.4 asts 1.6 stls 0.4 blks - on 47%/19%/83%

Who you got? Both are arguably their best seasons in their career.

[Dr Hawk]

Jordan. He was a superior player

[J Shuttlesworth]

Hmm tough let me think about it.


I'll go with the greatest of all time.

[Milbuck]

Just lol at Jordan's finals stats.

[Im Still Ballin]

Tie

Jordan has superior stats but he played during illegal defense eras

[J Shuttlesworth]

Just lol at Jordan's finals stats.
Practically 50/50/90 :roll:

Kyle Korver percentages in the finals on 35 PPG :roll:

[sd3035]

Jordan's finals stats were insane

[dubeta]

Easily LeBron

Did Jordan beat the equivalent of Durant, Westbrook, Harden, Ibaka?

Thought so

[sportjames23]

Easily LeBron

Did Jordan beat the equivalent of Durant, Westbrook, Harden, Ibaka?

Thought so


No, he only beat Drexler, Porter, Kersey and Williams. Y'know, the '92 Blazers, probably the best team in NBA history to not win it all.

All Bron did was beat a young, inexperienced team.

[SouBeachTalents]

No, he only beat Drexler, Porter, Kersey and Williams. Y'know, the '92 Blazers, probably the best team in NBA history to not win it all.

All Bron did was beat a young, inexperienced team.

That's definitely not true

[Im Still Ballin]

No, he only beat Drexler, Porter, Kersey and Williams. Y'know, the '92 Blazers, probably the best team in NBA history to not win it all.

All Bron did was beat a young, inexperienced team.
My troll detector has found some trollium

Sacramento Kings 2002 is the correct answer

[Prime_Shaq]

I would prefer 1991 Jordan but I would still take 1992 over LeBron.

[kamil]

It's interesting how MJ's performance and percentages got better in the finals compared to the regular season, whereas LeBron* just got worse all across the board in the finals.

[Milbuck]

Practically 50/50/90 :roll:

Kyle Korver percentages in the finals on 35 PPG :roll:
And it wasn't even his craziest finals stat line.. dude straight up trolled Magic in the finals the previous year with his numbers :oldlol:

[sportjames23]

That's definitely not true


Oh? Who's better?

[sportjames23]

My troll detector has found some trollium

Sacramento Kings 2002 is the correct answer


LOL, Drexler's team woulda rolled over that Sacramento team.

[SouBeachTalents]

Oh? Who's better?

Off the top of my head, I'd put teams like the '85 Celtics, '96 Sonics, '97 Jazz, and '73 Celtics ahead of the '92 Trail Blazers. Probably a good amount of others as well

[SamuraiSWISH]

'91 - '96 MJ >>> 2012 - 2015 LeBron
'88 - '90 MJ > 2008 - 2010 LeBron
'85 - '87 MJ = 2005 - 2007 LeBron

IMO, of course.

[Im Still Ballin]

'91 - '96 MJ >>> 2012 - 2015 LeBron
'88 - '90 MJ > 2008 - 2010 LeBron
'85 - '87 MJ = 2005 - 2007 LeBron

IMO, of course.
Era needs to be taken into account.

[SamuraiSWISH]

Era needs to be taken into account.
No, all that needs to be taken into account is the dominance of how one performed against what God / Time put you up against.

MJ can't slaughter today's soft, wide open era, the same way LeBron can't go up against Riley's thuggish Knicks.

Every era, or decade in the modern NBA, post 1980 has their strong points, and weak points. MJ performed better in his era than LeBron has currently. It's that factual, plain and simple.

[Genaro]

91 vs 13 would be better, wouldn't it?
But anyway, the answer is always Jordan.

[Im Still Ballin]

No, all that needs to be taken into account is the dominance of how one performed against what God / Time put you up against.

MJ can't slaughter today's soft, wide open era, the same way LeBron can't go up against Riley's thuggish Knicks.

Every era, or decade in the modern NBA, post 1980 has their strong points, and weak points. MJ performed better in his era than LeBron has currently. It's that factual, plain and simple.
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Take a break, coach. You're slipping

[JohnFreeman]

http://img.pandawhale.com/post-31074-J-Jonah-Jameson-laughing-gif-S-NWLY.gif

Take a break, coach. You're slipping
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[Beastmode88]

You put 1993's 41 ppg... then it's game over. :rolleyes:

[Im Still Ballin]

Why shouldn't we factor in era?

Both players achieved the same level of success

Stats are clearly being used to differentiate between the two

Era/rule schemes affect statistic output

Hence why Wilt was dropping 50 a game and getting 25 rebounds

Now it'd be stupid to compare him to someone today without factoring in era

Believe it or not defenses are A LOT better today than in the 90's

It'd be unjust to not factor in era

[Beastmode88]

Why shouldn't we factor in era?

Both players achieved the same level of success

Stats are clearly being used to differentiate between the two

Era/rule schemes affect statistic output

Hence why Wilt was dropping 50 a game and getting 25 rebounds

Now it'd be stupid to compare him to someone today without factoring in era

Believe it or not defenses are A LOT better today than in the 90's

It'd be unjust to not factor in era

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvMG7mZGo04
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYNTmEYSMvY

[Im Still Ballin]

Got your tinfoil hat on I see

[Milbuck]

It's honestly closer than most would like to admit. Overall their careers are clearly separated...but 2012 Lebron was all the best attributes of Lebron manifesting itself into championship play. Dude was the same physical freak, + a much improved post game, + a refuse to lose killer mentality, minus the off court immature stuff from the season prior. All the things people normally clown him for...his reluctance to take over consistently, his inexplicable fits of passiveness, his bailouts of the defense by taking long jumpers, etc..gone. Best shown by him struggling with his jumper in the finals, simply brushing it off and still dominating from other areas of the court. One of the most complete seasons you can ask for.

Jordan was godlike though.

A better comparison would be 86 Bird vs 12 Lebron.

[Im Still Ballin]

Got your tinfoil hat on I see
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[Beastmode88]

Got your tinfoil hat on I see

You still got your dunce cap on tho.

[JebronLames]

LeBron 2012

[Im Still Ballin]

I'm curious do you actually follow the NBA?

Or do you just hate on others who actually do?

[Im Still Ballin]

Do you even support a team?

[The_Pharcyde]

Jordan, no question about it.

2012 lebron was unreal tho, that game 6 vs Boston was crazy... No one could guard him that night... He couldn't miss from anywhere on the court... His best performance imo considering the season/his legacy were completely on the line

[Indian guy]

I still look back at LeBron's 2012 season in amazement. Elite numbers, but he never actually demonstrated elite basketball ability. He was still struggling athletically in the half-court. Not as bad as 2011, but still devoid of explosion off the dribble or any consistent ability to create for himself when the game slow down. I never had any confidence in him to take over a game, and really, he never actually did so either. Pretty much all of his production that year came within the flow of the game. His jumper was broke for much of the year too, especially in the playoffs. He had no real ability to exert his will when necessary and take over - his playmaking ability was just limited. Most of his offense was built on a dominant transition game, hard off-ball cuts to the basket and general Marion-like activity from 18 feet and inside. And all the credit in the world to him for amassing the numbers he did with that limited ability. Even leading his team to a championship! But plenty of versions of LeBron are better than his '12 self. 2009, 2010 and 2013-current. They are all better and much closer to '92 MJ, but not better, no. That's arguably MJ's best version and it's hard to imagine anyone being better than that. He had a complete and flawless skill-set, to go along with still-freakish athleticism at age 29. But more importantly, with a ring under his belt now, his control over games + sheer confidence/ruthlessness on the court all went up a notch higher that year, IMO. LeBron's simply not on that level from a mental standpoint.

[OldSchoolBBall]

1992 Jordan fairly clearly. If you weren't around then, you can't understand the level '92 Jordan was at, both in terms of on court dominance and control over games as well as the mental hold he had on the league.

This is the Jordan who dropped 50 in a Dream Team scrimmage against HOF players. This is the Jordan who scored 54 points over the final 3 quarters vs. the Heat in the playoffs after Heat players taunted him after a 2 point first quarter. This is the Jordan who dropped 42 point in game 7 against the Knicks to pull out a series win - about a dozen of those points coming in quick succession after McDaniel got in his face. This is the Jordan who dropped an NBA record 35 points and 6 threes in the first half of game 1 of the NBA Finals just to show the separation betwen him and a main rival - and he did it while sitting out 7:30 of the half. Dude could've legitimately had a 43+ point half and 60+ point game had he not sat so long and eased off in the second half. As it stands he had back to back games of 39 pts/10+ ast in the opening two games of the Finals.

Lebron is great, but he's not that.

[sportjames23]

1992 Jordan fairly clearly. If you weren't around then, you can't understand the level '92 Jordan was at, both in terms of on court dominance and control over games as well as the mental hold he had on the league.

This is the Jordan who dropped 50 in a Dream Team scrimmage against HOF players. This is the Jordan who scored 54 points over the final 3 quarters vs. the Heat in the playoffs after Heat players taunted him after a 2 point first quarter. This is the Jordan who dropped 42 point in game 7 against the Knicks to pull out a series win - about a dozen of those points coming in quick succession after McDaniel got in his face. This is the Jordan who dropped an NBA record 35 points and 6 threes in the first half of game 1 of the NBA Finals just to show the separation betwen him and a main rival - and he did it while sitting out 7:30 of the half. Dude could've legitimately had a 43+ point half and 60+ point game had he not sat so long and eased off in the second half. As it stands he had back to back games of 39 pts/10+ ast in the opening two games of the Finals.

Lebron is great, but he's not that.


/thread

[Im Still Ballin]

/illegal defense

[OldSchoolBBall]

/HGH

/Roids

/Wide Open Lanes

/No perimeter contact

/No Shotblockers

/Can only play with perfect spacing

/Can only play while dominating the ball

/Jumps ship when he hits adversity

See how easy that is?

[JebronLames]

switch teams. Lebron still wins. No ways jordan wins with those heat teams.

[Beastmode88]

I'm curious do you actually follow the NBA?

Or do you just hate on others who actually do?

I've already confirmed multiple times that I'm a knicks fan. As for your ass that might be a different story.

[DonDadda59]

/illegal defense

Awww, ain't he adorable? :oldlol:

Illegal D was called as much as travelling or palming is called today. Teams played zone (without 3-second violations) outright back then. It got to the point that the NBA called several summits to deal with the issue with no luck, until they threw in the towel and got rid of the rule. So basically the only thing that changed was teams had to be pull their bigs out of the paint every 2.9 seconds instead of playing actual zone.

THIS (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mykMooKalQ8) is the sort of defense Jordan was facing in the '92 playoffs.

[Im Still Ballin]

TL;DR


/illegal d

[Beastmode88]

so whos your team again? :coleman:

[Im Still Ballin]

I've already confirmed multiple times that I'm a knicks fan. As for your ass that might be a different story.
Well no shit

Who the **** would want to be a knicks fan

[Im Still Ballin]

kings

you clearly weren't around when I was the only one making Kings related posts for the first half of the season

ain't seen you post once about the knicks

[Cold soul]

1992 Jordan superior player all around.

[Im Still Ballin]

Call me when air jordan can defend 1 through 5

I'll be waiting

[DonDadda59]

I don't want none

Good boy. Smart move.

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[20Four]

http://img.pandawhale.com/post-31074-J-Jonah-Jameson-laughing-gif-S-NWLY.gif

Take a break, coach. You're slipping
Shouldn't you be flippin burgers or some shit? Get off leBRONZE nuts you dumbfvck he isn't that good, deal with it fvck

[Im Still Ballin]

Simmer down, little don

I'm the big dog around these woods

We all know why

[Paul George 24]

Call me when air jordan can defend 1 through 5

I'll be waiting
LEBRON CAN DEFEND 5 AND 4,ARE U KIDDING ME :roll:

[Im Still Ballin]

LEBRON CAN DEFEND 5 AND 4,ARE U KIDDING ME :roll:
Shut down Al Jefferson? Check

Shutdown Pau Gasol? cheque

Shutdown David West? CHEQUE!

[20Four]

Simmer down, little don

I'm the big dog around these woods

We all know why
You aint no big dog foo, you da big bitch in these woods, now go shine my fvcking shoes

[DonDadda59]

Simmer down, little don

I'm the big dog around these woods

We all know why

Youse a bitch. A dime a dozen unoriginal troll. If you saw me walking down the sidewalk in your direction you'd avoid eye contact and cross the street as soon as possible. Hell I could walk into your house tomorrow morning, eat the bowl of cereal your mom poured for you and piss in your apple juice and all you'd say was 'TL/DR' :(

No wonder you're a LeBron fan. Like kindred spirits :lol

[Paul George 24]

switch teams. Lebron still wins. No ways jordan wins with those heat teams.

JORDAN WOULD BEAT 2007 SPURS UNLIKE LEFLOP GET SWEEP :roll:

[dubeta]

Jordan stans getting ethered

1-9 must suck :oldlol:

[Im Still Ballin]

I highly doubt that don

I'm one of the few actual posters that engages in serious physical activity. My details are known on the ISH fit club thread. I would murk your fat ass in an instant. You'd be on the ground, face rubbing in your smeared cheetos in seconds.

[JohnFreeman]

I highly doubt that don

I'm one of the few actual posters that engages in serious physical activity. My details are known on the ISH fit club thread. I would murk your fat ass in an instant. You'd be on the ground, face rubbing in your smeared cheetos in seconds.
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[Paul George 24]

Shut down Al Jefferson? Check

Shutdown Pau Gasol? cheque

Shutdown David West? CHEQUE!

LEFLOP SHUT DOWN DAVID WEST ???? ,when West makes him almost die :roll:
Al Jefferson hurt in 1st Round,next question :lol
how many times he didi it against Gasoft,1 or 2 play :facepalm

[Paul George 24]

Jordan stans getting ethered

1-9 must suck :oldlol:

2-5 NUFF.SAID :banana:
AND ALMSOT SWEEP BY OLD SPURS :roll:

[J Shuttlesworth]

I'll never understand Paul George 24.

His username is Paul George 24, but he's a Spurs fan?

My guess he just roots for whoever is going against LeBron at the time :facepalm

[Paul George 24]

Jordan stans getting ethered

1-9 must suck :oldlol:

JORDAN NEVER CHOKE LIKE LEFLOP DID AT 2011 :hammerhead:

[Micku]

Oh? Who's better?

I think the Kings 02 were better, but I guess that could arguable. Of course some of the runner up of the Lakers/Celts teams are better if we are going to nickpick. The Bucks 72 were better.

Anyway, I don't think that was Jordan's best, but it was his best combination of skill and athleticism I've seen. His jumpshot was money.

[Paul George 24]

I'll never understand Paul George 24.

His username is Paul George 24, but he's a Spurs fan?

My guess he just roots for whoever is going against LeBron at the time :facepalm

WHY NOT USING PG24 CAN'T BE A SPURS FAN:banana:

[DonDadda59]

I highly doubt that don

I'm one of the few actual posters that engages in serious physical activity. My details are known on the ISH fit club thread. I would murk your fat ass in an instant. You'd be on the ground, face rubbing in your smeared cheetos in seconds.

:whatever:

Be the opposite of LeBron. Come to NYC and actually back up your big talk with action nigguh. I'll PM you a place and time to meet me. Then we'll see how far that slick willy shit gets you in real life.

Just say when.

[Im Still Ballin]

Right now

Buy me an international flight from Perth, Australia to New York

First class please

[JohnFreeman]

Right now

Buy me an international flight from Perth, Australia to New York

First class please
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[Im Still Ballin]

And throw some extra dosh to spend on the mini-bar

Thanks

[DonDadda59]

Right now

Buy me an international flight from Perth, Australia to New York

First class please

You'd just use the money to fly to Akron to break into Bron's house to sniff his dirty underwear. I'm not falling for that shit.

[Paul George 24]

Right now

Buy me an international flight from Perth, Australia to New York

First class please

LOSER :lol

[Im Still Ballin]

You're avoiding the situation

You trying to not let it escalate

Knew you were a bitch

Anyways I'm out

About to squat 405 for reps like it ain't a big deal

Laters

[JohnFreeman]

You're avoiding the situation

You trying to not let it escalate

Knew you were a bitch

Anyways I'm out

About to squat 405 for reps like it ain't a big deal

Laters
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[20Four]

You're avoiding the situation

You trying to not let it escalate

Knew you were a bitch

Anyways I'm out

About to squat 405 for reps like it ain't a big deal

Laters
Thats it?

[The_Pharcyde]

Why are people responding to the lebron trolls
MJ is obviously the better player.. Why even get upset, and give them what want

Mj has nothing to prove when it comes to being the goat, let the others be fools.. If they love lebron that much, o well.. Nothing you can say to a fanatic, let them live in their little world

[Im Still Ballin]

There's only a handful of guys on here that can even squat 405 once

I sure as hell know your burger flippin ass ain't one of them

[DonDadda59]

You're avoiding the situation

You trying to not let it escalate

Knew you were a bitch

Anyways I'm out

About to squat 405 for reps like it ain't a big deal

Laters

:oldlol:

Yeah OK nigguh. Make sure that dingo doesn't eat your baby while you're 'squatting'.

You ever post a pic of yourself? Curious to see what 405 reps do to a Bron fan's physique :confusedshrug:

[The_Pharcyde]

You're avoiding the situation

You trying to not let it escalate

Knew you were a bitch

Anyways I'm out

About to squat 405 for reps like it ain't a big deal

Laters

Lol this guy is like thT kobe fan that travelled to fight that guy

Hey btw how much can you shoulder press bro, I'm dying to know hahahahaha what a clown this guy is

I'm about to squat 405 FOR REPS!!! hahahahahaha sheesh

[24-Inch_Chrome]

:oldlol:

Yeah OK nigguh. Make sure that dingo doesn't eat your baby while you're 'squatting'.

You ever post a pic of yourself? Curious to see what 405 reps do to a Bron fan's physique :confusedshrug:

http://i.giphy.com/120bgqIGMep55u.gif

[Im Still Ballin]

You must have missed the PM's

I showed more of myself than you ever will on the internet

Thats a ****ing guarantee

no homo

[The_Pharcyde]

There's only a handful of guys on here that can even squat 405 once

I sure as hell know your burger flippin ass ain't one of them

This is like the gift that keeps on giving!! Hahah keep them coming man, you got me rolling hahahaha

[DonDadda59]

You must have missed the PM's

I showed more of myself than you ever will on the internet

Thats a ****ing guarantee

no homo

Why do you need to go the PM route bruh? There's no secrets here. I've posted my pics a few times here, think last week sometime was the latest, no harm done. Come on, I bet those 405 reps have turned you into a boomerang slinging , crocodile hunting, bron nut gobbling adonis.

Go ahead. Post that picture. :D

[Micku]

It's honestly closer than most would like to admit. Overall their careers are clearly separated...but 2012 Lebron was all the best attributes of Lebron manifesting itself into championship play. Dude was the same physical freak, + a much improved post game, + a refuse to lose killer mentality, minus the off court immature stuff from the season prior. All the things people normally clown him for...his reluctance to take over consistently, his inexplicable fits of passiveness, his bailouts of the defense by taking long jumpers, etc..gone. Best shown by him struggling with his jumper in the finals, simply brushing it off and still dominating from other areas of the court. One of the most complete seasons you can ask for.

Jordan was godlike though.

A better comparison would be 86 Bird vs 12 Lebron.

It's very close actually. Tbh, you could just flip a coin on whoever except when it comes to clutch time I suppose. MJ was probably better at that from the stats. But when it comes to whose team rely the most, it's LeBron. The team relied on him more for the defensive and offensive side of things, and the real plus/minus stats indicate it.

You can't go wrong with either. I would argue that MJ off the ball skills would be better suited for a stacked team.

[Im Still Ballin]

If I did don I would get perma-banned

I think you can understand what type of photo we are talking about here now

[dubeta]

DonDaddda getting destroyed :oldlol:

[DonDadda59]

If I did don I would get perma-banned

I think you can understand what type of photo we are talking about here now

See. My original estimation of you was spot on. Youse a bitch.

I'm not asking for nudes, bruh.

See, this is me:

http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/ae170/DonDadda59/Random/62c7336a-db76-4fc0-9b03-0cf7601f955e_zpsdtxm2q9s.jpg

Now you...

[Im Still Ballin]

Wish this were in the OTC because i've got one hand tied behind my back here

been banned for speaking about this too many times in the NBA forum

I'm going to stop before I'm banned for another 3 months

[DonDadda59]

Wish this were in the OTC because i've got one hand tied behind my back here

been banned for speaking about this too many times in the NBA forum

I'm going to stop before I'm banned for another 3 months

Right. OK. Your story checks out, no doubt.

Well if you're ever in the NYC area. You know what I look like. Let me know when and where. :cheers:

[Mr. Jabbar]

i'd even take current jordan

[Spurs m8]

1992 Jordan:
Regular Season MVP - 30.1 pts 6.4 trb 6.1 asts 2.3 stls 0.9 blocks on 52%/27%/83% shooting (fg/3pt/ft)
3rd in voting for DPOY
Won the Olympic Gold
Finals MVP- 35.8 pts 4.8 trb 6.5 asts 1.7 sts 0.3 blks - on 53%/43%/89%.

2012 LeBron
Regular Season MVP - 27.1 pts 7.9 trb 6.2 asts 1.9 stl 0.8 blks - on 53%/36%/77% shooting (fg/3pt/ft)
4th in voting for DPOY
Won the Olympic Gold
Finals MVP 28.6 pts 10.2 rbs 7.4 asts 1.6 stls 0.4 blks - on 47%/19%/83%

Who you got? Both are arguably their best seasons in their career.

Jordan obviously.

Both on stats and just general basketball.

LeBron isn't even close, anyone who knows basketball knows this.

Anyone else is just a kid or a retard.

[sd3035]

I'm still ballin just got owned worse than Leonard owned Bran in the finals

[dubeta]

I'm still ballin just got owned worse than Leonard owned Bran in the finals



So he didnt get owned?

[JohnFreeman]

I'm still ballin just got owned worse than Leonard owned Bran in the finals
So he didn't really get owned?

[sd3035]

http://weartesters.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/kawhichamp.jpg

http://lundberg.me/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/lebron-crying.jpg

[Kvnzhangyay]

http://weartesters.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/kawhichamp.jpg

http://lundberg.me/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/lebron-crying.jpg

lebron has those trophies also...

[20Four]

lebron has those trophies also...
What about this???

http://i.imgur.com/8vXqagy.gif

He is so scared of competition what a ZETA

[JohnFreeman]

What about this???

http://i.imgur.com/8vXqagy.gif

He is so scared of competition what a ZETA
That gif is from when LeBron won the title...

[sd3035]

What about this???

http://i.imgur.com/8vXqagy.gif

He is so scared of competition what a ZETA


:lebronamazed: :lebroncry:

[Kvnzhangyay]

That gif is from when LeBron won the title...

:roll: :roll:

[dubeta]

That gif is from when LeBron won the title...

Ether, and back to his next shift 20four goes

[Paul George 24]

Ether, and back to his next shift 20four goes
1-9 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2-5,LEFLOP STANS :banana:

[Beastmode88]

Tanked his own legacy in 2011. :roll:

[sd3035]

Tanked his own legacy in 2011. :roll:

Can't imagine Jordan getting owned by Jason Terry, or letting a 22 year old role player light him up and get finals mvp

[Megabox!]

That gif is from when LeBron won the title...
:lol :lol 20Four and sd3035 getting bodied

[Paul George 24]

:lol :lol 20Four and sd3035 getting bodied
FACT IS LEFLOP SCARED KAWOW

[pauk]

GOAT seasons right there, they did & won it all, only missed the DPOY although they could have won it aswell if they wanted. :applause:

[You Cant Ban Me]

GOAT seasons right there, they did & won it all, only missed the DPOY although they could have won it aswell if they wanted. :applause:
you a dick sucker forreal....

[AintNoSunshine]

Dayum, didn't notice peak Bron was so close to the GOAT at his own peak.

MJ the best but Bron isn't far off.

[Lebron23]

Lebron beat 4 former and future MVP's in the playoffs. Kevin Garnett, Kevin Durant, Russell Westbrook, and James Harden

[NBAplayoffs2001]

Lebron beat 4 former and future MVP's in the playoffs. Kevin Garnett, Kevin Durant, Russell Westbrook, and James Harden

Lol are you serious? Harden was a 6th man, Westbrook was just a top 10 pg in the league. K.D. ok I'll give you that. Kevin Garnett's MVP was in 2004.

Needless to say though, the 2012 Thunder and 2012 Celtics were definitely formidable opponents and are definitely as good as MJ's during his run if not better. That Celtics team was deeeeep.

[DonDadda59]

Lebron beat 4 former and future MVP's in the playoffs. Kevin Garnett, Kevin Durant, Russell Westbrook, and James Harden

KG was 35 and past prime (still solid though) and those OKC guys were neophytes. If that's your criteria, then Karl Malone's Western Conference wins in '98 blow LeBron's entire postseason out of the water.

Beat Hakeem (MVP), Barkley (MVP), and Drexler in the first round.

Beat Robinson (MVP) and Duncan (MVP) in the second.

Beat Shaq (MVP) and Kobe (MVP) in the WCF.

That's 6 former and future MVPs in the western conference playoffs alone. Lakers had 4 all stars that season.

His reward- getting clowned by the GOAT in the finals :applause:

[NBAplayoffs2001]

KG was 35 and past prime (still solid though) and those OKC guys were neophytes. If that's your criteria, then Karl Malone's Western Conference wins in '98 blow LeBron's entire postseason out of the water.

Beat Hakeem (MVP), Barkley (MVP), and Drexler in the first round.

Beat Robinson (MVP) and Duncan (MVP) in the second.

Beat Shaq (MVP) and Kobe (MVP) in the WCF.

That's 6 former and future MVPs in the western conference playoffs alone. Lakers had 4 all stars that season.

His reward- getting clowned by the GOAT in the finals :applause:

That's a ridiculous level of talent that they had to overcome though. Wow, I guess that was when the Western Conference started to outshine the East. For me, the East was loaded with talent probably up until 1994 or so.

[riseagainst]

holy fcking sh1t. Im still ballin and dubeta both getting rekt over and over again.

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[Beastmode88]

Lebron beat 4 former and future MVP's in the playoffs. Kevin Garnett, Kevin Durant, Russell Westbrook, and James Harden

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[Quickening]

Add 10 percent to Lebrons ppg, rebounds and assists to adjust for league pace...

[Paul George 24]

Add 10 percent to Lebrons ppg, rebounds and assists to adjust for league pace...
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[Beastmode88]

Add 10 percent to Lebrons ppg, rebounds and assists to adjust for league pace...

He would still be 2/5.

[sportjames23]

He would still be 2/5.


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[OldSchoolBBall]

Add 10 percent to Lebrons ppg, rebounds and assists to adjust for league pace...

'92 Bulls played at a 94 pace, the '12 Heat played at a 91 pace. That's 3%, not 10%. And 3 possessions per game makes ZERO difference for a single players' stats.

[DonDadda59]

That's a ridiculous level of talent that they had to overcome though. Wow, I guess that was when the Western Conference started to outshine the East. For me, the East was loaded with talent probably up until 1994 or so.

I think Shaq going to the West was the biggest blow to the East's strength. Soon after that, the Bulls' dynasty ended, the Knicks and Pacers aged (even both had one last hurrah in the '98 and '00 finals). Then the East never really recovered after that. This season was the first where it looked like the Conference might close the gap a little, but injuries devastated some teams that looked like they could be players (ie, Bulls & Heat).


Add 10 percent to Lebrons ppg, rebounds and assists to adjust for league pace...


'92 Bulls Pace: 94.4
'12 Heat Pace: 91.2

Chicago played at a pace of a whopping 3 more possessions than the Heat. That was one of the higher paces for the Bulls too. During the second 3-peat, their pace got to sub 90 by their final run.

[DonDadda59]

'92 Bulls played at a 94 pace, the '12 Heat played at a 91 pace. That's 3%, not 10%. And 3 possessions per game makes ZERO difference for a single players' stats.

Beat me to it. Plus Bron had a higher usage rate than MJ. If Jordan was playing LeBron ball, he would've put up his late 80s stats.

[ArbitraryWater]

He would still be 2/5.

lol I usually hate the 2/5 crap but :roll: :roll: :roll:

[NBAplayoffs2001]

I think Shaq going to the West was the biggest blow to the East's strength. Soon after that, the Bulls' dynasty ended, the Knicks and Pacers aged (even both had one last hurrah in the '98 and '00 finals). Then the East never really recovered after that. This season was the first where it looked like the Conference might close the gap a little, but injuries devastated some teams that looked like they could be players (ie, Bulls & Heat).



'92 Bulls Pace: 94.4
'12 Heat Pace: 91.2

Chicago played at a pace of a whopping 3 more possessions than the Heat. That was one of the higher paces for the Bulls too. During the second 3-peat, their pace got to sub 90 by their final run.

Agreed however I do believe Pacers were still relevant until about 2004. Knicks were noexistent after the 1999 finals. I'm a huge Knicks fan but I know for real that the best Knick era basketball in the 1990s was probably 1990-1994. They were legitimate title contenders and probably would have made another finals maybe.

Shaq leaving the East was definitely a huge blow and the drafting of Tim Duncan by the Spurs definitely help. KG's emergence. Kobe's explosion in the early 2000s just was icing on the cake of making the East look like a complete joke.

[warriorfan]

:roll: I'm Still Beta just got bodied so hard in this thread



Go brag about squatting 405 and sending fake dick pictures to guys on the internet. :roll: :roll: :roll:




Biggest fuccing loser of all time.



P.S. And he doesn't know a shred of bball to boot

[SamuraiSWISH]

1992 Jordan fairly clearly. If you weren't around then, you can't understand the level '92 Jordan was at, both in terms of on court dominance and control over games as well as the mental hold he had on the league.

This is the Jordan who dropped 50 in a Dream Team scrimmage against HOF players. This is the Jordan who scored 54 points over the final 3 quarters vs. the Heat in the playoffs after Heat players taunted him after a 2 point first quarter. This is the Jordan who dropped 42 point in game 7 against the Knicks to pull out a series win - about a dozen of those points coming in quick succession after McDaniel got in his face. This is the Jordan who dropped an NBA record 35 points and 6 threes in the first half of game 1 of the NBA Finals just to show the separation betwen him and a main rival - and he did it while sitting out 7:30 of the half. Dude could've legitimately had a 43+ point half and 60+ point game had he not sat so long and eased off in the second half. As it stands he had back to back games of 39 pts/10+ ast in the opening two games of the Finals.

Lebron is great, but he's not that.
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'92 Bulls played at a 94 pace, the '12 Heat played at a 91 pace. That's 3%, not 10%. And 3 possessions per game makes ZERO difference for a single players' stats.
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[SHAQisGOAT]

only missed the DPOY although they could have won it aswell if they wanted. :applause:

https://38.media.tumblr.com/5c5a868ae833ce78f32a72f99cdbdc6c/tumblr_nbj2ylrySu1qzmdhzo1_500.gif

[pauk]

you a dick sucker forreal....

hellz yea, prime MJ / Lebron...

http://i.imgur.com/0YDr0Mj.gif

[pauk]

https://38.media.tumblr.com/5c5a868ae833ce78f32a72f99cdbdc6c/tumblr_nbj2ylrySu1qzmdhzo1_500.gif

Come on, we all know they had the ability... thing is they couldnt afford to give that defensive effort required to win DPOY every game for 48 mins while containing the best offensive effort aswell....