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jzek
03-17-2015, 09:56 AM
If so, how come he's NEVER invited to Team USA? :confusedshrug:

Derka
03-17-2015, 09:58 AM
1. No.

2. Because Team USA is pure politics, as it has always been.

Paul George 24
03-17-2015, 10:00 AM
If so, how come he's NEVER invited to Team USA? :confusedshrug:

HE CAN'T SHOOT :no:

kenny817
03-17-2015, 10:01 AM
If so, how come he's NEVER invited to Team USA? :confusedshrug:

Kyle Korver was invited to Team USA...that mean he top 5 at his position?

Jud
03-17-2015, 10:02 AM
The elite Rondo is long gone. He's only averaging 9 pts, 6 asts, 5 rebounds, and 1 steal a game on 42/36/30 shooting with the Mavs. Top 5 point guards don't average that. Hell, I don't even think Rondo is a top 15 point guard this season. Just not a good fit with Dallas.

T_L_P
03-17-2015, 10:02 AM
PGs better than Rondo:

Curry
Paul
Westbrook
Lillard
Wall
Irving
Lowry
Teague
Bledsoe
Dragic
Hill
Joseph
Mills
Holiday
Conley
Lawson
Deron
Beverly
Williams
Augustin
Udrih
Prigioni

Might be missing a couple.

FKAri
03-17-2015, 10:05 AM
Top 5? You're out of your mind if you think that.

The JKidd Kid
03-17-2015, 10:20 AM
Not at all this season you could argue that Deron Williams is better than him which is funny cause Deron literally sucks dick.

Dragic4Life
03-17-2015, 10:36 AM
Westbrook
Dragic
Curry
Paul
Wall

Nope he's not a top 5 PG. Not even close.

BlackWhiteGreen
03-17-2015, 10:51 AM
Pretty sure he was invited to Team USA in the past (when he was elite) but he left because he disagreed with Coach K or something.

Taller than CP3
03-17-2015, 10:57 AM
This ain't 2008 anymore. Now he's just a big whiny bitch ruining team chemistry.

Wally450
03-17-2015, 10:59 AM
PGs better than Rondo:

Curry
Paul
Westbrook
Lillard
Wall
Irving
Lowry
Teague
Bledsoe
Dragic
Hill
Joseph
Mills
Holiday
Conley
Lawson
Deron
Beverly
Williams
Augustin
Udrih

Might be missing a couple.

I know Rondo's not having as productive a season as he normally does, but stop.

sd3035
03-17-2015, 10:59 AM
Rondo is ****ing trash

riseagainst
03-17-2015, 11:00 AM
Rondo is the worst PG in the league.

T_L_P
03-17-2015, 11:06 AM
I know Rondo's not having as productive a season as he normally does, but stop.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&y1=2015&p1=rondora01&y2=2015&p2=hillge01&p3=&p4=&p5=&p6=

Rondo has played 55 games and has 1.1 Win Shares.

Hill has played 27 games and he has 2.9

George Hill is so much better than Rondo that it's not even funny. Even his raw production (15/4/5/.555 TS%) is much better than Rondo's (9/6/8/.434 TS%).

CoJo and Patty are basically locks too. Maybe Udrih is the only questionable one, but he's been pretty great with the Grizzlies. Rondo, by all accounts, has been a net negative. :confusedshrug:

ButterFace
03-17-2015, 11:06 AM
I know Rondo's not having as productive a season as he normally does, but stop.

I think it was pretty clear he is trolling. There are more bold than those.

T_L_P
03-17-2015, 11:20 AM
I think it was pretty clear he is trolling. There are more bold than those.

So, Rondo is having a better season than George Hill?

BlackWhiteGreen
03-17-2015, 02:02 PM
So, Rondo is having a better season than George Hill?

Hill just cost his team a game against a playoff rival with poor defence. Probably not the best guy to make your argument for you

IncarceratedBob
03-17-2015, 02:32 PM
No doubt in my mind Hill is playing better than Rondo this year, but Rondo is clearly playing injured

FPJ
03-17-2015, 03:30 PM
PGs better than Rondo:

Curry
Paul
Westbrook
Lillard
Wall
Irving
Lowry
Teague
Bledsoe
Dragic
Hill
Joseph
Mills
Holiday
Conley
Lawson
Deron
Beverly
Williams
Augustin
Udrih

Might be missing a couple.

Kemba Walker
Avery Bradley when he plays the 1
Isaiah Thomas
Jose Calderon was much better for the Mavs
Brandon Knight is having a better season
Aaron Brooks has a bigger impact on his team
Brandon Jennings
Patrick Beverley's defense and shooting in better than everything Rondo does right now
Tyreke Evans has been a PG in Jrue's absence and is a lot better
Elfrid Payton has done better this year
D.J. Augustin

I mean, it's easier to name PG's Rondo's better than tbh.

bizil
03-17-2015, 07:17 PM
Nope. At one time, I thought CP3 and Rondo were the best floor generals in the league in terms of dropping dimes-making teammates better. Rondo at his best was a top 2-3 passing PG, defensive PG, and rebounding PG. He was never an elite scoring PG. So when his floor game isn't as effective as it needs to be, he falls WAY BACK in the pack of PG's. When his floor game was on point, he was a top 10 PG. Even though many PG's could score better, he was a pass first PG who could dominate passing, defensively, and rebounding.

Real Men Wear Green
03-17-2015, 07:20 PM
Top 5 is an impossible argument to make right now or else I would, believe me. I'm still holding out hope that things improve with Dallas or next season he goes to a team that he works well on other than LA.

RRR3
03-17-2015, 07:22 PM
:roll:


Mavs fans are currently yearning for the "glory days" of Jameer Nelson. That should say it all right there.

Achilleas
03-17-2015, 07:25 PM
a player that can shoot he can't be a top 5 pg,yesterday he miss an open lay up ,good coaches would dare him to shoot and he become useless :confusedshrug:

houston
03-17-2015, 07:28 PM
no he is not

ButterFace
03-17-2015, 07:32 PM
a player that can shoot he can't be a top 5 pg,yesterday he miss an open lay up ,good coaches would dare him to shoot and he become useless :confusedshrug:

Theoo's alt?

Achilleas
03-17-2015, 07:34 PM
Theoo's alt?

no ,why everyone here has to be an alt :biggums:

BasedTom
03-17-2015, 07:37 PM
rondo has joined dwill and tony parker off that cliff

bizil
03-17-2015, 07:37 PM
Top 5 is an impossible argument to make right now or else I would, believe me. I'm still holding out hope that things improve with Dallas or next season he goes to a team that he works well on other than LA.

I agree! When Kidd went to Dallas near the end of his career, he didn't have the ball in his hands as much. But he still managed to get 8-9 dimes a night. And he improved his outside shooting enough to be viable. Plus he was big enough to guard SG's and SF's in addition to PG's.

Rondo simply hasn't been able to have that kind of impact. He got to dominate the ball more in Boston. I also hope he can fit in and come close to the impact Kidd had on Dallas. If not, it would be best for him to move on.

ralph_i_el
03-17-2015, 07:41 PM
Not even top 10. Never has been even a top 5 player. He has a very negative value when he doesn't have the ball, he's a dick, and he can't shoot well enough.

NZStreetBaller
03-17-2015, 10:42 PM
Rondos one of the best passers in the league.

T_L_P
05-17-2015, 07:15 PM
PGs better than Rondo:

Curry
Paul
Westbrook
Lillard
Wall
Irving
Lowry
Teague
Bledsoe
Dragic
Hill
Joseph
Mills
Holiday
Conley
Lawson
Deron
Beverly
Williams
Augustin
Udrih
Prigioni

Might be missing a couple.

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