WOJ: Kings discussing deal for Deron Williams

[DirkNowitzki41]

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA

[hawkfan]

Good move for the Kings if they can get him.

[russwest0]

But why?

[Wavves]

woah

[MP.Trey]

When I heard their owner wanted to get players who are undervalued becuase of their comtracts, he and/or JJ were the first guys that came to mind. Don't mind this if they give up the right pieces but I thought Collison was playing well for them at PG?

[Wavves]

But why?
New owner syndrome

[russwest0]

Some franchises will never get it, man.

[jzek]

Needs Jerry Sloan to be successful again.

[EveryManALion]

Stupid, I would rather have Collision.

[fiddy]

Kings=retarded

[hawkfan]

Any team in the West that doesn't have an A level point guard doesn't have any real chance. The West is stacked at that position.

[Wavves]

From Insidehoops twitter -

Darren Collison this season: 15.6 ppg 3.6 rpg 6.1 apg. Deron Williams this season: 15.6 ppg 3.1 rpg 6.8 apg

[gts]

Does Deron have anything left?

[EveryManALion]

Does Deron have anything left?
'

no

[bdreason]

I'm sorry Kings fans.

[Embers]

Yuck.

Kings can and should be looking for better

[Collie]

Is he even better than Collison at this point? I wonder if these owners get blinded by Deron's old reputation.

[Ca$H]

They just go for big names with no regard for chemistry/fit.

[JohnMax]

http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Deron-Williams-Eating-Wendys-and-Smiling.gif

[sammichoffate]

Please, no. Collison is actually doing really well this year. I don't want Sac to lose the chemistry they've built so far.

[magmo68]

Interesting

[Smook A.]

From Insidehoops twitter -

Darren Collison this season: 15.6 ppg 3.6 rpg 6.1 apg. Deron Williams this season: 15.6 ppg 3.1 rpg 6.8 apg
:facepalm

Gotta feel bad for the Kings fans. Their front office has been making retarded moved for way too long now. They deserve better

[It's A VC3!!!]

There is a reason why the Nets don't want him anymore. Deron is putting up 16/7, which is not bad, but he's been very inconsistent and cannot simply dominate a game anymore. Still, trading him would be sad because it would send a clear signal to Nets fans that the Nets don't care about winning until 2016.

[hawkfan]

The Kings are going nowhere with the roster they have, and the Nets are willing to take on their bad contracts.

A change of scenery would do D. Williams good.

[bigkingsfan]

Trade for Josh Smith too please

[hawkfan]

There is a reason why the Nets don't want him anymore. Deron is putting up 16/7, which is not bad, but he's been very inconsistent and cannot simply dominate a game anymore. Still, trading him would be sad because it would send a clear signal to Nets fans that the Nets don't care about winning until 2016.

Lakers get

Kevin Garnett (expirer)

Nets get

Steve Nash (expirer)
3.3 million trade exception
luxury tax savings
2nd round pick

[JohnFreeman]

No

[It's A VC3!!!]

Lakers get

Kevin Garnett (expirer)

Nets get

Steve Nash (expirer)
3.3 million trade exception
luxury tax savings
2nd round pick

Garnett is done after the season. The Nets are not in any rush to trade him. It's the long contracts of Joe's, Deron's and Brook's that they want to get rid of. I don't see Garnett getting moved. I believe it'll be Deron and Brook that get traded before the deadline.

[hawkfan]

Garnett is done after the season. The Nets are not in any rush to trade him. It's the long contracts of Joe's, Deron's and Brook's that they want to get rid of. I don't see Garnett getting moved. I believe it'll be Deron and Brook that get traded before the deadline.

Boston gets

Brook Lopez

Brooklyn gets

1st round pick (top 20 protected)
Brandon Bass (expirer)
Jeff Green

[niko]

What do the Nets think happens in 2016? They have no young core, no talent (they'll be cutting it to get cap space). With the cap going up, teams like Washington, Chicago will have cap space for stars. Even NY, as dysfunctional as we are will have Melo + some young talent. LA same. Nets will have a blank slate. COME TO OUR TEAM AND REBUILD US INSTEAD OF TRYING FOR A TITLE IMMEDIATELY. IT'S OK, ITS BROOKLYN!

[magmo68]

Add Plumlee A.Anderson and Stauskas to this deal and it would work

[imnew09]

LOL. If they pull this off then :bowdown: :bowdown:




:roll: :lol

[niko]

Boston gets

Brook Lopez

Brooklyn gets

1st round pick (top 20 protected)
Brandon Bass (expirer)
Jeff Green
Brook Lopez has practically no value. He's hurt right now, he has the bad foot, AND his contract is uninsured. To top it off, he's playing badly. You think Boston gives an expirer, Green, AND a pick?

Not sure if serious....

[It's A VC3!!!]

What do the Nets think happens in 2016? They have no young core, no talent (they'll be cutting it to get cap space). With the cap going up, teams like Washington, Chicago will have cap space for stars. Even NY, as dysfunctional as we are will have Melo + some young talent. LA same. Nets will have a blank slate. COME TO OUR TEAM AND REBUILD US INSTEAD OF TRYING FOR A TITLE IMMEDIATELY. IT'S OK, ITS BROOKLYN!
nets have been having free agents take pay cuts ever since they went to brooklyn. the knicks have never recruited any free agents. nobody wants to play for them except scrub-like players. durant is going to strongly consider Brooklyn because we have an owner 100x better than james dolan.

[Nets fan 93]

nets have been having free agents take pay cuts ever since they went to brooklyn. the knicks have never recruited any free agents. nobody wants to play for them except scrub-like players. durant is going to strongly consider Brooklyn because we have an owner 100x better than james dolan.
How long do you expect Prokhorov to be an owner? Why would Durant join either team?

[niko]

nets have been having free agents take pay cuts ever since they went to brooklyn. the knicks have never recruited any free agents. nobody wants to play for them except scrub-like players. durant is going to strongly consider Brooklyn because we have an owner 100x better than james dolan.
The Nets owner doesn't even want to own the team. He cut Pierce instead of pay him. You can't play the "our owner spends whatever it takes" card anymore, he doesn't. He probably isn;t even the owner in 2016.

The Nets are behaving exactly like the Knicks did to get Lebron. How well did that work? And it's even funnier, because you have no history, no fanbase, and Durant has two choices locked in (OKC and Washington) and no one else is even in the running.

Are you serious? Durant is going to avoid all the title contenders, to join Plumlee and Bogs in Brooklyn. :lol

[niko]

How long do you expect Prokhorov to be an owner? Why would Durant join either team?
He wouldn't. The Nets are in the midst of the Knicks 2010 Lebron plan. Basketball in NY is a cesspool of delusion and stupidity.

[Ariza4three]

Boston gets

Brook Lopez

Brooklyn gets

1st round pick (top 20 protected)
Brandon Bass (expirer)
Jeff Green
wow another shitty trade idea

[Duderonomy]

I'd rather not trade Plumlee but I'd love the depth of those three. Let's not act like Deron and DC are even talent wise at this point :no: Although it isn't a 12 mil difference or whatever their cap number is.

[It's A VC3!!!]

keeping pierce wouldn't have made us a contender. it was a great business decision to let him go. still, i would have loved for him to stay more so than any other net not named KG. i don't know why bogs is not playing more. why the hell do teams choose to invest in foreign players but not play them when they hit a cold streak? bogs was so good to start the season, he hit a wall and now he's getting benched? seems very stupid.

[Im Still Ballin]

Why

Someone tell Vivek to lay off the crackpipe

[niko]

keeping pierce wouldn't have made us a contender. it was a great business decision to let him go. still, i would have loved for him to stay more so than any other net not named KG. i don't know why bogs is not playing more. why the hell do teams choose to invest in foreign players but not play them when they hit a cold streak? bogs was so good to start the season, he hit a wall and now he's getting benched? seems very stupid.
You're saying your owner would do anything to be better. And in the next sentence you're applauding letter players go who make you better to save money. Pierce would have made you better and you let him go to save money. PROKOROV WILL SPEND ANYTHING is a myth. It's passed. Let it go...

[Embers]

When I look at Sactowns list. They have some uber dud contracts

If they can do a deal of say

Landry + Thompson + Sessions + picks for Willams + Plumlee then they would be better off.

[turret]

leave the core in place
they were playing some good ball till boogie got ill.
They were definitely heading in the right direction.

2nd knee jerk reaction in a week

[INDI]

Deron has actually looked pretty good this year. The only reason I'm in favor of trading him is the injuries. I think 1 more injury would pretty much do him in.

The main person I want to trade is brook lopez. I would love a swap for Hibbert, both teams are underwhelmed by their centers and they both have something good they can bring to the other team.

[It's A VC3!!!]

You're saying your owner would do anything to be better. And in the next sentence you're applauding letter players go who make you better to save money. Pierce would have made you better and you let him go to save money. PROKOROV WILL SPEND ANYTHING is a myth. It's passed. Let it go...

He will spend anything TO WIN A CHAMPIONSHIP. That has been proved already. He's not going to spend to "just be better". If Pierce was the final championship piece he would've spent the money. That's not debatable. Everybody in the NBA world knows Prokhorov as the owner that is willing to spend anything to win a championship.

[CelticBaller]

i love the drafts picks we going to get :applause:

[hawkfan]

The Nets could move Williams and Lopez, then use the stretch provision on Johnson and be under the salary cap next year.

[Mr. Jabbar]

greatest choker of our time, lebron included

[andremiller07]

Just when you think it can't get any worse for the Kings the franchise finds a new way to attempt a all time low move.

Collison at this time makes 5mil per year compared to Deron's 20 and is a better player and younger. Plumlee sucks and is not even a upgrade over JT.

Williams will be making more money than our franchise player.....wtf am I missing here for the Kings to even entertain the thought of this trade. Is it actually possible the Vivek group is worse than Maloofs?

WTF is actually going on here.

Deron Williams: 34.5min 15.6pts (.403 .382 .880) 3.1reb 6.8ast 1.1stl 0.3blk 2.6TO $19.8mil (3yrs)
Darren Collison: 34.7min 15.6pts (.434 .304 .775) 3.6reb 6.1ast 1.7stl 0.4blk 2.3TO $4.8mil (3yrs)
The guy on the bottom plays defense as well

[ProfessorMurder]

:roll: Kings are doing everything they can to f*ck over Boogie.

[andremiller07]

Next trade Kings coming up with will be Cousins + Mclemore for Amare Stoudimire at least after that we can't sink any further.

[hawkfan]

Next trade Kings coming up with will be Cousins + Mclemore for Amare Stoudimire at least after that we can't sink any further.

How about Landry, Williams and Sessions for Deron Williams?

[andremiller07]

How about Landry, Williams and Sessions for Deron Williams?
No we don't need a guy making 20 million per year unless he's actually a legit top 20 player.

[niko]

He will spend anything TO WIN A CHAMPIONSHIP. That has been proved already. He's not going to spend to "just be better". If Pierce was the final championship piece he would've spent the money. That's not debatable. Everybody in the NBA world knows Prokhorov as the owner that is willing to spend anything to win a championship.

He took one year of big losses, had the team professionally valued to see what he could get in a sale, and is still talking with a potential buyer at the same time jettisoning players for P&L savings, no flexibility. AK47 declared a malcontent so they could get rid of him to save money. Pierce (who asked to come back) allowed to go to a rival and this year declared "impossible to win" to save $20M.

Nets fans are full of shit on the payroll, the fact he spent so much failed but it was 100% what you want as a fan. Once he sells players for cash you applaud the Nets savings money like you're stockholders. :facepalm If Pierce prevented the nets from functioning it was a good move but all it did was put $20M more in the pocket of a billionaire. Fans applauding that is sad.

[Kiddlovesnets]

Boston gets

Brook Lopez

Brooklyn gets

1st round pick (top 20 protected)
Brandon Bass (expirer)
Jeff Green

Are you f*cking kidding me? A top 20 protected draft pick? Thats equivalent to nothing at all lmao.
:facepalm