players who defy logic

[red1]

http://www.raptorsrepublic.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/nba_g_bargnani_395x200.jpg

bargnani's softness and lack of rebounding ability as a decently athletic 7 footer used to blow my mind


http://www.totalprosports.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/russell-westbrook-pouting.jpg

westbrooks durability before the knee injury was unreal. didn't miss a single game in highschool, college, or his first 5 years in the league

[Mr.Kite]

http://usatftw.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/lebronkawhi.gif

[Knicksfever2010]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fr%C3%A9d%C3%A9ric_Weis

[red1]

http://usatftw.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/lebronkawhi.gif
add explanations for your choices please

[Mr.Kite]

add explanations for your choices please

Self proclaimed Chosen One, King of Basketball, Top 10 all time on GOAT list by his fans, yet, shook by a role player in his 2nd year

[SugarHill]

Self proclaimed Chosen One, King of Basketball, Top 10 all time on GOAT list by his fans, yet, shook by a role player in his 2nd year
damn

[red1]

Self proclaimed Chosen One, King of Basketball, Top 10 all time on GOAT list by his fans, yet, shook by a role player in his 2nd year
winning the championship and fmvp = shook?

[NZStreetBaller]

Kobe shouldnt be able to do what he does at his age with his injury.

[SyRyanYang]

Stephen Curry, one of the least athletic guards in the league yet he's up there with all time freaks ala Lebron, Durant, Davis, etc. Also his shot selection defies logic too.

Same can be said about Nash back in the days.

[Milbuck]

Still baffles me how freaks of nature at the center position can suck so much ass offensively. Like Andre Drummond or Deandre Jordan..like both players, but it makes zero sense to me how they're so laughably unskilled considering the level they're playing at.. You're getting paid millions of dollars to play basketball, it's not just a hobby but it's your job to work on your game and improve, and you're at a ridiculous physical advantage damn near every single game you play, and yet you can't hit a decent hook to save your life, hit 2/2 FTs once a year, etc? Seriously how can you be so completely inept skill-wise with such high level training, coaching, analytical resources, etc available to you at all times?

[Mr.Kite]

Stephen Curry, one of the least athletic guards in the league yet he's up there with all time freaks ala Lebron, Durant, Davis, etc. Also his shot selection defies logic too.

Same can be said about Nash back in the days.


Fundamentals

[Mr.Kite]

Kobe shouldnt be able to do what he does at his age with his injury.

Fundamentals

[NZStreetBaller]

Fundamentals

What??

[Mr.Kite]

What??

It does not defy logic if you play at a high fundamental level with high bball iq

[LAZERUSS]

Bruce Bowen shooting .404 from the FT line, and leading the NBA in 3pt% at .441.

[Poetry]

Stephen Curry, one of the least athletic guards in the league yet he's up there with all time freaks ala Lebron, Durant, Davis, etc.

Curry is athletic, but he has a different type of athleticism than the players you mention above.

[navy]

Still baffles me how freaks of nature at the center position can suck so much ass offensively. Like Andre Drummond or Deandre Jordan..like both players, but it makes zero sense to me how they're so laughably unskilled considering the level they're playing at.. You're getting paid millions of dollars to play basketball, it's not just a hobby but it's your job to work on your game and improve, and you're at a ridiculous physical advantage damn near every single game you play, and yet you can't hit a decent hook to save your life, hit 2/2 FTs once a year, etc? Seriously how can you be so completely inept skill-wise with such high level training, coaching, analytical resources, etc available to you at all times?
There is a strong genetic component that comes with "skills" that people just refuse to acknowledge. Some people are just born stiffs and lack the fluidity to play basketball at a high level.On top of that add Drummonds and Deandres massive frames and you get clumsy mother ****ers. If they werent so tall and jumped high/run fast they obviously wouldnt make it. But they might have been luckier in the skills department so who knows.

Id wager they work on things like free throw shooting more than other players. And they could score better if put in much lower levels of competition.

Sidenote, Drummond isnt that inept offensively in my opinion though. Just raw. De Andre will never amount to much more than dunking offensively.

[Milbuck]

There is a strong genetic component that comes with "skills" that people just refuse to acknowledge. Some people are just born stiffs and lack the fluidity to play basketball at a high level.On top of that add Drummonds and Deandres massive frames and you get clumsy mother ****ers. If they werent so tall and jumped high/run fast they obviously wouldnt make it. But they might have been luckier in the skills department so who knows.

Id wager they work on things like free throw shooting more than other players. And they could score better if put in much lower levels of competition.

Sidenote, Drummond isnt that inept offensively in my opinion though. Just raw. De Andre will never amount to much more than dunking offensively.
See that's where I don't follow the logic..Deandre Jordan isn't clumsy, or close to it, really. The dude is one of the most athletic big men in NBA history, and it's not like some of the insane dunks he's pulling off don't require elite coordination, agility, and body control for someone of his size. If he can pull of those highlight reel plays with regularity, I see no reason why he can't develop a simple post skill-set..maybe a spin move here, a jump hook there, drop step up and under etc. Yeah there's a level of feel that you need to have, but it's not so instinct-demanding that you can't do it whatsoever, when you're at where these guys are at physically. He doesn't have to have guard like skills with a soccer player's footwork in a center's body like Hakeem, but I have zero doubt if he utilized the resources at his disposal and put in the hours he'd be capable of being respectable skill-wise..to go along with his otherworldly physical gifts.

And I agree Drummond is raw..but he's getting to the point where he should be showing us something..anything.. And Deandre's been in the league 7 years, dude has no excuse.

[waseem780]

See that's where I don't follow the logic..Deandre Jordan isn't clumsy, or close to it, really. The dude is one of the most athletic big men in NBA history, and it's not like some of the insane dunks he's pulling off don't require elite coordination, agility, and body control for someone of his size. If he can pull of those highlight reel plays with regularity, I see no reason why he can't develop a simple post skill-set..maybe a spin move here, a jump hook there, drop step up and under etc. Yeah there's a level of feel that you need to have, but it's not so instinct-demanding that you can't do it whatsoever, when you're at where these guys are at physically. He doesn't have to have guard like skills with a soccer player's footwork in a center's body like Hakeem, but I have zero doubt if he utilized the resources at his disposal and put in the hours he'd be capable of being respectable skill-wise..to go along with his otherworldly physical gifts.u

And I agree Drummond is raw..but he's getting to the point where he should be showing us something..anything.. And Deandre's been in the league 7 years, dude has no excuse.
I remember in 2013DeAndre supposedly worked on his post game in the summer and so in the begginning of the season, there was a stretch where DeAndre would regularly post up and had a stretch of few weeks where he went off in the post , I think eventually he slowed down and the Clips stopped looking towards him offensively ever since .

[navy]

See that's where I don't follow the logic..Deandre Jordan isn't clumsy, or close to it, really. The dude is one of the most athletic big men in NBA history, and it's not like some of the insane dunks he's pulling off don't require elite coordination, agility, and body control for someone of his size. If he can pull of those highlight reel plays with regularity, I see no reason why he can't develop a simple post skill-set..maybe a spin move here, a jump hook there, drop step up and under etc. Yeah there's a level of feel that you need to have, but it's not so instinct-demanding that you can't do it whatsoever, when you're at where these guys are at physically. He doesn't have to have guard like skills with a soccer player's footwork in a center's body like Hakeem, but I have zero doubt if he utilized the resources at his disposal and put in the hours he'd be capable of being respectable skill-wise..to go along with his otherworldly physical gifts.

And I agree Drummond is raw..but he's getting to the point where he should be showing us something..anything.. And Deandre's been in the league 7 years, dude has no excuse.

He has an Olympic type build. Not so much as basketball fluidity though. But that deals with my earlier point in that if you put them on much lower levels on basketball they would look much more skilled in the post and every where else. But in the NBA? Forget about it. Im sure Deandre would be pulling hookshots and dropsteps if you or I played against him.

Drummond has looked good every time I've watched him. Then I check his box score stats for his other games played and and I am perplexed at how terrible they are. Outright garbage. Maybe he just plays well when I pull up a pistons game. I think he will be fine though.

[Kvnzhangyay]

roy hibbert 0/0

[BurningHammer]

Grant Hill's playing career.

[Nash-tastic]

Stephen Curry, one of the least athletic guards in the league yet he's up there with all time freaks ala Lebron, Durant, Davis, etc. Also his shot selection defies logic too.

Same can be said about Nash back in the days.
:applause:
2 of my favourite players

[pauk]

Stephen Curry, one of the least athletic guards in the league yet he's up there with all time freaks ala Lebron, Durant, Davis, etc. Also his shot selection defies logic too.

Same can be said about Nash back in the days.

Stephen Curry is quicker/faster than those guys and probably has better stamina.... thats actually a better athletic advantage than vertical leap....

[sbw19]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBEl7hsaBQ4

[sammichoffate]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBEl7hsaBQ4:biggums:

[JimmyMcAdocious]

Why is Monta looking at the keyboard? He's going to misspell what he's typing anyway.

[sbw19]

Why is Monta looking at the keyboard? He's going to misspell what he's typing anyway.

So he can repeatedly hit delete at the end.

[DCL]

manute bol was fighting lions as a kid in his tribal village in africa, then he learns basketball at a late age, comes to america, gets drafted as a 7'7" defensive specialist, and then transforms into a baseline 3 point shooter in the nba.

that makes no f--king sense.

[Dr. Cheesesteak]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBEl7hsaBQ4
goddam he has coke nails on each finger...

[andremiller07]

Reggie Evans being the best pure rebounder in the NBA for like the last decade.

[ace23]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBEl7hsaBQ4
From the comments:


Monta would be working at McDonalds if he wasn't in the NBA.


luckily he's not so you can keep your drive thru headphones on

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[Bandito]

There is a strong genetic component that comes with "skills" that people just refuse to acknowledge. Some people are just born stiffs and lack the fluidity to play basketball at a high level.On top of that add Drummonds and Deandres massive frames and you get clumsy mother ****ers. If they werent so tall and jumped high/run fast they obviously wouldnt make it. But they might have been luckier in the skills department so who knows.

Id wager they work on things like free throw shooting more than other players. And they could score better if put in much lower levels of competition.

Sidenote, Drummond isnt that inept offensively in my opinion though. Just raw. De Andre will never amount to much more than dunking offensively.
Tall or big has nothing to do with it. Examples of this are Yao and Shaq. Both are tall and have big frames and they were skilled.

[Bandito]

Reggie Evans being the best pure rebounder in the NBA for like the last decade.
Cant play a lick of defense:lol

[Nash]

How does a perimeter player who attempted over 300 3's in a season end up with a FG% of 57%?

[dh144498]

How does a perimeter player who attempted over 300 3's in a season end up with a FG% of 57%?

http://img.medscape.com/thumbnail_library/dt_131216_cherry_picking_fruit_250x188.jpg

[Purch]

Josh smith

[Dresta]

Still baffles me how freaks of nature at the center position can suck so much ass offensively. Like Andre Drummond or Deandre Jordan..like both players, but it makes zero sense to me how they're so laughably unskilled considering the level they're playing at.. You're getting paid millions of dollars to play basketball, it's not just a hobby but it's your job to work on your game and improve, and you're at a ridiculous physical advantage damn near every single game you play, and yet you can't hit a decent hook to save your life, hit 2/2 FTs once a year, etc? Seriously how can you be so completely inept skill-wise with such high level training, coaching, analytical resources, etc available to you at all times?
Because they are nearly 7 feet tall, and tall guys tend to have poor coordination. You rarely catch a guy 6'8 and above that isn't massively spasticated when it comes to playing basketball. People who have coordination and size and athleticism are extremely rare. Guys like Hakeem and Kareem were exceptions.

[navy]

Tall or big has nothing to do with it. Examples of this are Yao and Shaq. Both are tall and have big frames and they were skilled.
Exceptions, Which is why they were so good.

[DCL]

Another thing about size -- obviously, huge dudes have room to suck in many areas and still be useful. But what makes some of them less developed as adults might be because they never worked on shit that was seemingly irrelevant to them when they were younger. If they had always beasted in high school and college without needing to do shoot anything beyond 8 feet, they had no reason to practice shooting. Little guys, on the other hand，cant get away with that. They HAD to be skilled or extra special to overcompensate. But a guy like tyson chandler? He was already unstoppable in offense throughout his youth before he reached the nba. He probably didnt spend too many hours shooting jumpers after practice because he thought he didnt need to. Inside buckets were already easy for him in high school. That's like the shaq syndrome -- you don't have the motivation to be more complete because you feel like you already dominate everything with what u got. then you look at deandre jordan, who's another massive ass, but some of you might think he's offensively clumsy in the nba, but going back to his childhood to teenage years, who the hell was stopping this guy from scoring all day in the paint? he was busy lifting weights, not practicing circus shots like steve nash.

[GimmeThat]

maybe Jason Kidd.

[WallIn]

Roy Hibbert in the 2013/2014 NBA season

[Rolando]

Rajon Rondoooo.

Leads the league in assist per game.
Leads all point guards in rebounds....rebounds better than most players.
Can't shoot for shit.
Will crush any nationally televised game with a triple double at least.
Otherwise chills.

Currently worse at freethrows than Shaq.

[dreamwarrior]

Curry is athletic, but he has a different type of athleticism than the players you mention above.
He has insane cardio. Guy never seems to get tired. The explosive athletes can't keep up with him on every single play.