Zach Lavine 28/5 on 79% shooting

[Im so nba'd out]

Stay mad haters

37 points against the mvp 4/11/15

[IGOTGAME]

he doesn't have an offensive game. His jumper is slow and hard to get off and he doesn't have any good moves. Also doesnt have a great feel for the game. He could be decent if he works hard, kinda like Gerald Green.

[RidonKs]

was just thinking that

[waseem780]

Do you guys actually watch games? Lavine has serious potential tha **** outta here with your gerald green shit :oldlol:

[LAZERUSS]

He would be riding the bench at UCLA this year...

[rhowen4]

Do you guys actually watch games? Lavine has serious potential tha **** outta here with your gerald green shit :oldlol:
im with you man. but as soon as he misses a shot or turns it over i'm back to thinking he's terrible

no but seriously i believe in him

[waseem780]

Lavine has 16 points (6/7) FG% 3 rebounds and an assist in 9 minutes where the hell are yall getting this "Lavine is so bad" thoughts from?? Since im pretty sure most of yall haven't watched his other games

[Kvnzhangyay]

You were saying?

[SAKOTXA]

16 points, 9 minutes. nice thread

[KingPush]

Not watching the game but from the box score it says he has 16/2 in 9 minutes. On 6/7 shooting :oldlol:

[RidonKs]

he's still a bum

[navy]

jinx

[disel]

He raping lin something dirty. Dry rape

[LAZERUSS]

Lavine has 11 points 3 rebounds and an assist in 6 minutes where the hell are yall getting this "Lavine is so bad" thoughts from?? Since im pretty sure most of yall haven't watched his other games

Yes, lets' forget his previous 10 games (5 of them starts), when he put up these sterling numbers...

21 mpg, 6.0 ppg, 2.3 rpg, 2.5 apg, .349 FG%, and a .188 3pt%

And how about his three NCAA tournament games at UCLA last year...

a collective, 8 pts, 3-15 FG/FGA, and 0-8 from the arc.

[Maniak]

Yes, lets' forget his previous 10 games (5 of them starts), when he put up these sterling numbers...

21 mpg, 6.0 ppg, 2.3 rpg, 2.5 apg, .349 FG%, and a .188 3pt%

And how about his three NCAA tournament games at UCLA last year...

a collective, 8 pts, 3-15 FG/FGA, and 0-8 from the arc.
oh my goodness a rookie is off to a slow start??????????

wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Buzissa]

The kid doesn't really have any moves finishing around the rim. His jumper has good form and he has crazy athleticism, though.
Gerald Green comparison seems like a good one.

[LAZERUSS]

oh my goodness a rookie is off to a slow start??????????

wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He also had a slow finish at UCLA last year...

[waseem780]

Yes, lets' forget his previous 10 games (5 of them starts), when he put up these sterling numbers...

21 mpg, 6.0 ppg, 2.3 rpg, 2.5 apg, .349 FG%, and a .188 3pt%

And how about his three NCAA tournament games at UCLA last year...

a collective, 8 pts, 3-15 FG/FGA, and 0-8 from the arc.
if you didn't watch then you can't judge. I've watched every game and I can tell you 1/2 his shots are rush shots when the offense ****s up. Also he is playing way out of position he isn't a point guard but he has a really good handle for his size.

[Andrew Wiggins]

He also had a slow finish at UCLA last year...

as a freshman...

he has big time scoring potential

[waseem780]

The kid doesn't really have any moves finishing around the rim. His jumper has good form and he has crazy athleticism, though.
Gerald Green comparison seems like a good one.
Gerald Green is a spot up shooter who cant dribble or create for shit, Zach Lavine seems more of a 6th man spark kinda guy with poor mans westbrook potential.

[Kvnzhangyay]

I like Lavine's potential, athleticism and good shooting form is always solid potential-wise

[LAZERUSS]

as a freshman...

he has big time scoring potential

And either against freshmen, or players who had virtually no hope of ever playing in the NBA. This isn't the 60's when players played four years of college, and rookies would lead the league in scoring and win MVPs.

[midatlantic09]

Don't be surprised if LaVine ends up averaging something like 21/4/5 on 45% shooting in 3-4 years...

He really has a lot of potential, maybe even more than Wiggins.

[waseem780]

Lavine was a starter for only 3 years of highschool and wasn't a starter at college and the kid already has better handles and jumpshot than half the guys who come out from college not to mention his athletic tools are elite. Speed + Jump. THis kid is gonna be special if he puts in the effort.

[KingPush]

Lavine was a starter for only 3 years of highschool and wasn't a starter at college and the kid already has better handles and jumpshot than half the guys who come out from college not to mention his athletic tools are elite. Speed + Jump. THis kid is gonna be special if he puts in the effort.
:cheers:

[Kvnzhangyay]

Lavine actually somewhat resembles to me a more athletic Livingston

[waseem780]

Lavine actually somewhat resembles to me a more athletic Livingston
Lavine will be a better scorer , but Livingston was a far superior creator/pure PG. Lavine is a Sg/combo

[IGOTGAME]

Gerald Green is a spot up shooter who cant dribble or create for shit, Zach Lavine seems more of a 6th man spark kinda guy with poor mans westbrook potential.

I've watched almost every wolves game and he has no type of Westbrook potential bc they play nothing alike. Lavine also doesnt have a good handle. And guess what, the offense breaks down because of his inability to make simple passes

[JimmyMcAdocious]

He sort of reminds me of Crawford, just not as naturally talented an offensive player and more athletic.

[waseem780]

I've watched almost every wolves game and he has no type of Westbrook potential bc they play nothing alike. Lavine also doesnt have a good handle. And guess what, the offense breaks down because of his inability to make simple passes
You're comparing him to point guards which he's not. and his raw athleticism reminds me of 08 Westbrook with less muscle but more length both really explosive and quick.

[KingPush]

17 Minutes

28 points 3 assists on 11/13 shooting

OP please continue to make these threads :oldlol:

[Done_And_Done]

Is that you Konex

[russwest0]

people still comparing lavine to westbrook just cause he's raw and from ucla?

:roll: :roll: :roll:

thank god you guys aren't the gm's of my team.

[Andrew Wiggins]

He sort of reminds me of Crawford, just not as naturally talented an offensive player and more athletic.

that's who he reminds me of.

plays a lot like him. tight handles, explosive, abnormally agile, and can shoot

[russwest0]

17 Minutes

28 points 3 assists on 11/13 shooting

OP please continue to make these threads :oldlol:

one game doesn't prove nor disprove shit.

[rhowen4]

i hope he becomes legitimately good, he would be a really fun player to watch

[KingPush]

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

And the W :applause: :applause:

[navy]

This is what happens when people make hate threads. :oldlol:

[waseem780]

He did this in 25 minutes with only 4 free throws I think? , great game

[Eric Cartman]

The future of the league is in good hands :applause:

[Kovach]

Is that you Konex
:oldlol:

[LAZERUSS]

Fluke...

Not according to ISH. Players' entire CAREERS are judged by their LAST GAME here.

And we now know that Lavine will finish the season with averages of 28 ppg, 5 apg, and on a .786 FG% (and 100% FT and 3PT shooting.) A truly remarkable turn-around. From a complete bust to the league MVP...and all because of ONE GAME.

:bowdown:

[KobesFinger]

Black Friday MVP

[Blue&Orange]

Not according to ISH. Players' entire CAREERS are judged by their LAST GAME here.

And we now know that Lavine will finish the season with averages of 28 ppg, 5 apg, and on a .786 FG% (and 100% FT and 3PT shooting.) A truly remarkable turn-around. From a complete bust to the league MVP...and all because of ONE GAME.

:bowdown:
This idiot don't realize he looks like a bigger idiot trying not to look like a idiot.

[SugarHill]

Not according to ISH. Players' entire CAREERS are judged by their LAST GAME here.

And we now know that Lavine will finish the season with averages of 28 ppg, 5 apg, and on a .786 FG% (and 100% FT and 3PT shooting.) A truly remarkable turn-around. From a complete bust to the league MVP...and all because of ONE GAME.

:bowdown:
You and OP should just STFU for this one. Said he can't do anything and he has a massive game like this. Probably the best game of any rookie this season.

[sfballa13]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BrGR1OwCcAAn7xw.jpg

[LAZERUSS]

Hey guys...I need a favor...I don't have internet access right now...

can someone please post Lavine's stat-line from tonight's game for me?

Given what he did in his last game, I'm sure he probably hung 30+ points.

[stalkerforlife]

Hey guys...I need a favor...I don't have internet access right now...

can someone please post Lavine's stat-line from tonight's game for me?

Given what he did in his last game, I'm sure he probably hung 30+ points.

:lol

[Milbuck]

Hey guys...I need a favor...I don't have internet access right now...

can someone please post Lavine's stat-line from tonight's game for me?

Given what he did in his last game, I'm sure he probably hung 30+ points.
27/7/9/4/2 on 57% shooting.

And yes, he is hung.

[LAZERUSS]

27/7/9/4/2 on 57% shooting.

And yes, he is hung.

Damn...not quite as good as I expected. But at least we now know that he is a star in the NBA. I'm sure he will continue to put up the same type of games like he did tonight in the rest of his NBA career, then.

Thanks again...

[RoseCity07]

in 11 minutes, 0 points, 0 assists, 0 rebounds, 2 turnovers, 1 steal. 0-3 from the field.

[LAZERUSS]

in 11 minutes, 0 points, 0 assists, 0 rebounds, 2 turnovers, 1 steal. 0-3 from the field.

OMG...that's about what he averaged in his three NCAA tournament games last year, combined.

Must have been a fluke game, then...because he has been putting up 28 point games on 11-14 shooting from the field all season long this year.

[KingPush]

Salty ass laker fan mad that LaGoat shit on his team :oldlol:


Go back to sucking Wilt's d!ck *******

[Bless Mathews]

Hey guys...I need a favor...I don't have internet access right now...

can someone please post Lavine's stat-line from tonight's game for me?

Given what he did in his last game, I'm sure he probably hung 30+ points.

You're a terrible poaster.

[disel]

As I said it is lin and horrendous defense.

[LAZERUSS]

How is Zach doing in tonight's game?

I'm sure that he must have put up huge numbers against the worst team in the league, right?

You could make a case that the Wolves' three guards are the best shooting trio in the NBA right now, too.

Can't wait for the results...

...probably another 28 point, 11-13 game I'm sure...

[KingPush]

How is Zach doing in tonight's game?

I'm sure that he must have put up huge numbers against the worst team in the league, right?

You could make a case that the Wolves' three guards are the best shooting trio in the NBA right now, too.

Can't wait for the results...

...probably another 28 point, 11-13 game I'm sure...
He had an off game. But still better than Wilt in the clutch

[navy]

How is Zach doing in tonight's game?

I'm sure that he must have put up huge numbers against the worst team in the league, right?

You could make a case that the Wolves' three guards are the best shooting trio in the NBA right now, too.

Can't wait for the results...

...probably another 28 point, 11-13 game I'm sure...
What's with the hate on an irrelevant rookie? :confusedshrug:

[LAZERUSS]

What's with the hate on an irrelevant rookie? :confusedshrug:

You hit the nail on the head, my friend.

[Cocaine80s]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHTXJXy0-Sc
17/6/4 :applause:

[midatlantic09]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHTXJXy0-Sc
17/6/4 :applause:

He has a lot more upside than Andrew "Big Softy" Wiggins.

[Blue&Orange]

How is Zach doing in tonight's game?

what a pathetic facking loser :roll:

[LAZERUSS]

what a pathetic facking loser :roll:

Lavine as a starter...

Team is 0-6, and he is averaging 7.8 ppg on a .386 FG%, with 3.8 apg. Basically a poor-mans Ricky Rubio.

He MAY wind up having a decent NBA career, but it still amazes me that a player who did practically nothing in his college career could be a 13th pic in the first round.

[chocolatethunder]

Lavine as a starter...

Team is 0-6, and he is averaging 7.8 ppg on a .386 FG%, with 3.8 apg. Basically a poor-mans Ricky Rubio.

He MAY wind up having a decent NBA career, but it still amazes me that a player who did practically nothing in his college career could be a 13th pic in the first round.
Almost as amazing as an unknown Australian being picked 5th in the first round and everyone riding his nuts saying he'll be "the best player from the draft" and all this bullshit.

[no pun intended]

My boy LaVine with the 20/10 tonight woooooooo

[LAZERUSS]

My boy LaVine with the 20/10 tonight woooooooo

Last time I looked his team was down 108-81. Did he lead them to a comeback win?

[waseem780]

LaVine playing better than Wiggins. Wiggins has been shit since mid-late November..... Shabazz been beasting , 20 points in 20 minutes today. Mmm what else GRIII played some minutes today, Bennett looking pretty good. Dieng also pretty good especially at rebounding.

[no pun intended]

Last time I looked his team was down 108-81. Did he lead them to a comeback win?
I don't care. He played 43 minutes. Dude has the fvcking green light. Time to shine motherfvckas

[waseem780]

Last time I looked his team was down 108-81. Did he lead them to a comeback win?
He actually did lead a comeback but not enough to erase the 28 point lead

[Im so nba'd out]

Lavine in 3rd place for roy as of right now :pimp:

[navy]

Shabazz needs minutes. Dude has shown his one trick scoring works.

Lavine looking good. Dieng as well.

[magmo68]

...wish he was a laker...ijs

[LAZERUSS]

He actually did lead a comeback but not enough to erase the 28 point lead

Hmmm...

Duncan played a total of 19 minutes, while neither Parker nor Ginobili played at all. And the Spurs three other guards scored 49 points on 18-31 shooting...in a 22 point Spurs win (and a 28 point lead with 8 minutes remaining)...

Congratulations Zach Lavine!

[waseem780]

Hmmm...

Duncan played a total of 19 minutes, while neither Parker nor Ginobili played at all. And the Spurs three other guards scored 49 points on 18-31 shooting...in a 22 point Spurs win (and a 28 point lead with 8 minutes remaining)...

Congratulations Zach Lavine!
Haha but don't tell me 22 points and 10 assists even in a blowout isn't good for a raw 19 year old

[LAZERUSS]

Haha but don't tell me 22 points and 10 assists even in a blowout isn't good for a raw 19 year old

Well, let's not get carried away. He had scored 15 points on 5-12 shooting, and with his team down 108-81, with 8 minutes remaining. He went 3-3 from the field with a FT in the last eight minutes of a meaningless blowout loss.

Again, he MAY become a decent, to perhaps even good NBA player. But let's not get too excited. The NBA has been littered with great college players who were taken high in the draft, and then went to become bench-warmers or complete busts in their NBA careers. And Lavine was certainly not a great college player, either. In fact, he was a complete no-show in his three NCAA tournament games.

[Im so nba'd out]

Hmmm...

Duncan played a total of 19 minutes, while neither Parker nor Ginobili played at all. And the Spurs three other guards scored 49 points on 18-31 shooting...in a 22 point Spurs win (and a 28 point lead with 8 minutes remaining)...

Congratulations Zach Lavine!
He's a 19 yr old rookie who didnt even start in college give him a break sheesh :kobe: sorry he can't lead a 3-30 team to a upset win over the defending champions

[LAZERUSS]

He's a 19 yr old rookie who didnt even start in college give him a break sheesh :kobe:

Based on the above...would YOU have taken him in the first round of the NBA draft?

[LAZERUSS]

He's a 19 yr old rookie who didnt even start in college give him a break sheesh :kobe: sorry he can't lead a 3-30 team to a upset win over the defending champions

That was hardly the defending NBA champions out there tonight. Leonard played 27 minutes, Duncan played 19 minutes, and neither Parker nor Ginobili played at all...in a crushing win. Furthermore, the three best guards in the game played for the Spurs tonight.

[waseem780]

Based on the above...would YOU have taken him in the first round of the NBA draft?
Why are you so salty that a player who wasn't a good player in college got drafted just because of his athleticism and potential??

[Cocaine80s]

Why are you so salty that a player who wasn't a good player in college got drafted just because of his athleticism and potential??
Dude probably went undrafted lmao :oldlol:

[LAZERUSS]

Why are you so salty that a player who wasn't a good player in college got drafted just because of his athleticism and potential??

Well, before the season even started, there were those on this forum already singing his praises. Some were even predicting ROY.

I wouldn't normally care in most of those situations. But for a guy who did almost nothing in his only college season, and was worthless in the NCAA tournament, to be billed as some kind of "Pistol Pete", was just ridiculous.

Again, he may go to have a good NBA career. But the scouts must have seen something other than what he actually accomplished last year at UCLA, to honestly believe he was a middle first round pick.

[MiseryCityTexas]

Everyone's dickriding Wiggins when this guy is the much better player.

[waseem780]

Well, before the season even started, there were those on this forum already singing his praises. Some were even predicting ROY.

I wouldn't normally care in most of those situations. But for a guy who did almost nothing in his only college season, and was worthless in the NCAA tournament, to be billed as some kind of "Pistol Pete", was just ridiculous.

Again, he may go to have a good NBA career. But the scouts must have seen something other than what he actually accomplished last year at UCLA, to honestly believe he was a middle first round pick.
Of course scouts saw something other than his accomplishments , they saw his raw talent and athleticism , and guess what he is fully worthy of his #13 overall , In fact before the draft I saw mock drafts with him being in the top 10 , highest being #6 overall.

[LAZERUSS]

Of course scouts saw something other than his accomplishments , they saw his raw talent and athleticism , and guess what he is fully worthy of his #13 overall , In fact before the draft I saw mock drafts with him being in the top 10 , highest being #6 overall.

Well, good luck then...

[The_Pharcyde]

Well, good luck then...
why are you hating on a 19 year old kid , the guy had a great game what are you mad about
who gives a shit what he did at ucla
and i dont give 2 shits about this dude

sounds like you dislike his supporters and are taking it out on him

[Bless Mathews]

why are you hating on a 19 year old kid , the guy had a great game what are you mad about
who gives a shit what he did at ucla
and i dont give 2 shits about this dude

sounds like you dislike his supporters and are taking it out on him

Hes just a hater.

And brittle Cus he knows if lavine played in wilts era he'd be averaging 40/15/15

[LAZERUSS]

why are you hating on a 19 year old kid , the guy had a great game what are you mad about
who gives a shit what he did at ucla
and i dont give 2 shits about this dude

sounds like you dislike his supporters and are taking it out on him

1. He did not have a "great" game. He had a decent game in his 43 minutes, with seven of his 22 points coming in the final eight minutes of game in which his team was down by 28 points (and basically playing against the Spurs second string the entire game.)

2. He had a very good high school career, but was not highly recruited.

3. He had an ordinary, at best, freshman year at UCLA, which included him contributing absolutely nothing in the Bruins three NCAA tournament games.

4. With all of the above...he is drafted in the middle of the first round. To be honest, there have probably been college players who were cut after a first year like he had. And yet he is drafted in the first round? WTH is this world coming too?


5. Oh, and of course in the 2-3 games in his entire pro career in which he has actually played decent, the Lavine fans here come out of the woodwork.

[Cocaine80s]

1. He did not have a "great" game. He had a decent game in his 43 minutes, with seven of his 22 points coming in the final eight minutes of game in which his team was down by 28 points (and basically playing against the Spurs second string the entire game.)

2. He had a very good high school career, but was not highly recruited.

3. He had an ordinary, at best, freshman year at UCLA, which included him contributing absolutely nothing in the Bruins three NCAA tournament games.

4. With all of the above...he is drafted in the middle of the first round. To be honest, there have probably been college players who were cut after a first year like he had. And yet he is drafted in the first round? WTH is this world coming too?


5. Oh, and of course in the 2-3 games in his entire pro career in which he has actually played decent, the Lavine fans here come out of the woodwork.
College freshmen getting cut for averaging 9/2 at 44% coming off the bench? :biggums:

You do know Westbrook had a bad freshman year too right? Theres this thing called "improvement"

[LAZERUSS]

Hes just a hater.

And brittle Cus he knows if lavine played in wilts era he'd be averaging 40/15/15

If Lavine wasn't worth a damn in COLLEGE, and against either the limited number of "one-and-done" players, or the vast majority of players with no hope of making the NBA...

...do you honestly believe that he would have been starting in his NBA career in the 60's? With the numbers he put up in COLLEGE, Wooden likely would have cut him after his freshman year, and replaced him with someone like Kenny Heitz.

[chocolatethunder]

Well, let's not get carried away. He had scored 15 points on 5-12 shooting, and with his team down 108-81, with 8 minutes remaining. He went 3-3 from the field with a FT in the last eight minutes of a meaningless blowout loss.

Again, he MAY become a decent, to perhaps even good NBA player. But let's not get too excited. The NBA has been littered with great college players who were taken high in the draft, and then went to become bench-warmers or complete busts in their NBA careers. And Lavine was certainly not a great college player, either. In fact, he was a complete no-show in his three NCAA tournament games.
Are you one of those Exum nut riders?

[LAZERUSS]

Are you one of those Exum nut riders?

Are you kidding? As ridiculous as it was for Lavine to be a high draft pick, how in the hell does that idiot get drafted FIFTH in the first round when no one in the entire world knew anything about him?

[Eric Cartman]

Are you kidding? As ridiculous as it was for Lavine to be a high draft pick, how in the hell does that idiot get drafted FIFTH in the first round when no one in the entire world knew anything about him?

Are you kidding? :facepalm

You really think there were 15 better players in this draft class?

[chocolatethunder]

Are you kidding? As ridiculous as it was for Lavine to be a high draft pick, how in the hell does that idiot get drafted when no one in the entire world knew anything about him?
Don't ask me. At least Lavine overall tested the best athletically and Was one of the best shooters at the combine. Exum didn't do anything. This is how the draft goes now. Kyrie Irving was taken number one and was hurt. Noel would have gone number one if not hurt. It's all potential. Lavine was drafted at the end of the lottery. Players don't get drafted in what they've done the get drafted based on what scouts think that they can become. Look at Westbrook in UCLA. 3ppg as a freshman and 12ppg as a sophomore. Hardly amazing numbers. Lavine and Westbrooks numbers were essentially the same their freshman years. When KJ McDaniels is one of the best rookies, there's a problem w your rookies. Welcome to the NBA.

[navy]

Don't ask me. At least Lavine overall tested the best athletically and Was one of the best shooters at the combine. Exum didn't do anything. This is how the draft goes now. Kyrie Irving was taken number one and was hurt. Noel would have gone number one if not hurt. It's all potential. Lavine was drafted at the end of the lottery. Players don't get drafted in what they've done the get drafted based on what scouts think that they can become. Look at Westbrook in UCLA. 3ppg as a freshman and 12ppg as a sophomore. Hardly amazing numbers. Lavine and Westbrooks numbers were essentially the same their freshman years. When KJ McDaniels is one of the best rookies, there's a problem w your rookies. Welcome to the NBA.
Westbrook is an example of them making the right choice though...

[LAZERUSS]

Don't ask me. At least Lavine overall tested the best athletically and Was one of the best shooters at the combine. Exum didn't do anything. This is how the draft goes now. Kyrie Irving was taken number one and was hurt. Noel would have gone number one if not hurt. It's all potential. Lavine was drafted at the end of the lottery. Players don't get drafted in what they've done the get drafted based on what scouts think that they can become. Look at Westbrook in UCLA. 3ppg as a freshman and 12ppg as a sophomore. Hardly amazing numbers. Lavine and Westbrooks numbers were essentially the same their freshman years. When KJ McDaniels is one of the best rookies, there's a problem w your rookies. Welcome to the NBA.

I agree 100%. I mentioned it in another similar topic, but gone are the days when kids played four years of college ball. They also played AGAINST other kids that were playing four years of college ball. too. Back then you knew Elvin Hayes was going to be great in the NBA by the end his junior season. You knew that Wes Unseld was going to be great by the end of his junior season. You knew that Alcindor (Kareem) was already a top-5 center in the entire world by the end of his soph season. And very few ever were disappointments. In fact, the "flops" back then were players that like Larue Martin, who was never really that good of a college player, but was drafted #1 in the draft, based on ONE college game (against Walton.) And, as was predicted by many, he was a failure.

Now it's just a crap shoot.

[chocolatethunder]

Westbrook is an example of them making the right choice though...
Ok well lavine had played maybe 20 games and only played decent minutes in about 10. So I'm not ready to call him a bust yet. Shit you have people drooling over Exum so I think we can give Lavine a chance. If he was torching the league Id say the same thing. The season is long. We'll see how he does as the season progresses. Also, I'm not a Westbrook fan. He's fun as shit to watch but he just makes some of the most boneheaded plays for a "PG". I'm glad I'm not an OKC fan. Hell make an amazing shot to keep you in it and then make a boneheaded play that'll make you scratch your head. Anyway, there is no way to tell who was a good or a bad choice from this years draft. It's way too soon. Hell, two years may be too soon. I mean look how shit Ben McLemore looked and now he looks much better. When you're dealing w raw kids that's the way it's gonna be. It sucks but that's the deal. Watching a player go from zero to five isn't pretty. Watching them go from 5-10 is much more pleasant.

[Bless Mathews]

If Lavine wasn't worth a damn in COLLEGE, and against either the limited number of "one-and-done" players, or the vast majority of players with no hope of making the NBA...

...do you honestly believe that he would have been starting in his NBA career in the 60's? With the numbers he put up in COLLEGE, Wooden likely would have cut him after his freshman year, and replaced him with someone like Kenny Heitz.

:facepalm

See Russell Westbrook. Damn.

Numbers numbers numbers. All you're about is got damn numbers.

Once again, if you know so much Bout talent, why don't you get off a message board and go be a gm. I heard they make a lot of money.

Lavine has POTENTIAL. you know, what gm's drafting rookies jobs are hinged on. They know more than you. I know more than you. Just because his NUMBERS weren't good in college doesn't mean he isn't worthy of being a lottery pick.

Get the fucc over his ucla numbers. Watch combine drills.

You don't know shit.

Edit

Getting 22/10 on 50+ % is impressive no matter the circumstances.

Did he even have a game like that in college???

Hmmmm. But he did in nba.

[chocolatethunder]

I agree 100%. I mentioned it in another similar topic, but gone are the days when kids played four years of college ball. They also played AGAINST other kids that were playing four years of college ball. too. Back then you knew Elvin Hayes was going to be great in the NBA by the end his junior season. You knew that Wes Unseld was going to be great by the end of his junior season. You knew that Alcindor (Kareem) was already a top-5 center in the entire world by the end of his soph season. And very few ever were disappointments. In fact, the "flops" back then were players that like Larue Martin, who was never really that good of a college player, but was drafted #1 in the draft, based on ONE college game (against Walton.) And, as was predicted by many, he was a failure.

Now it's just a crap shoot.
It was a crap shoot then too it's just that their early years weren't as ugly because they were more ready but there were plenty of duds in those drafts as well. We just have to see them develop and get their asses whipped by men instead of them doing it in college for four years. We need a better system like Europe has. College isn't the answer for these kids. Being able to play and make some money is the answer just not in the NBA. They need to develop in a proper minor league like baseball and hockey or like junior leagues or whatever. I dunno what drafts you've been watching but I'm 42 and there have been plenty of shitty players in every draft I've ever seen.

[chocolatethunder]

:facepalm

See Russell Westbrook. Damn.

Numbers numbers numbers. All you're about is got damn numbers.

Once again, if you know so much Bout talent, why don't you get off a message board and go be a gm. I heard they make a lot of money.

Lavine has POTENTIAL. you know, what gm's drafting rookies jobs are hinged on. They know more than you. I know more than you. Just because his NUMBERS weren't good in college doesn't mean he isn't worthy of being a lottery pick.

Get the fucc over his ucla numbers. Watch combine drills.

You don't know shit.

Edit

Getting 22/10 on 50+ % is impressive no matter the circumstances.

Did he even have a game like that in college???

Hmmmm. But he did in nba.

This is the way it is now and you're right. Well put.

[LAZERUSS]

Let's take a look at tonight's stat-line...

WOW! 40 minutes played.

9 points, 8 assists, 4 rebs, 3 stls, 6 TOs, 4-16 FG/FGA, 0-2 3pt, 1-2 FT.

Oh, and the Warrior guards, both of whom only played 30 mpg...42 points on 17-35 shooting.

0-8 as a starter. Losses by margins of 2, 10, 12, 14, 16, 17, 22, and 48 points.

When is Rubio ever coming back?

[SugarHill]

Why are you particularly insecure about Lavine, dude?

[waseem780]

Let's take a look at tonight's stat-line...

WOW! 40 minutes played.

9 points, 8 assists, 4 rebs, 3 stls, 6 TOs, 4-16 FG/FGA, 0-2 3pt, 1-2 FT.

Oh, and the Warrior guards, both of whom only played 30 mpg...42 points on 17-35 shooting.

0-8 as a starter. Losses by margins of 2, 10, 12, 14, 16, 17, 22, and 48 points.

When is Rubio ever coming back?
Well actually if you watched the game , Lavine was one of the best players on the Wolves , he had an off-shooting night and he missed at least 4 point blank buckets. But he played good defense , Curry and Thompson's stats don't prove anything this was one of his best defensive game. Also he had 8 assists thats great for a guy "who cant pass to save his life". He did turn the ball over alot however.

[Cocaine80s]

Lazerus go back to fapping to wilt videos

[Bless Mathews]

Let's take a look at tonight's stat-line...

WOW! 40 minutes played.

9 points, 8 assists, 4 rebs, 3 stls, 6 TOs, 4-16 FG/FGA, 0-2 3pt, 1-2 FT.

Oh, and the Warrior guards, both of whom only played 30 mpg...42 points on 17-35 shooting.

0-8 as a starter. Losses by margins of 2, 10, 12, 14, 16, 17, 22, and 48 points.

When is Rubio ever coming back?

Watch the game. Then type


Lazerus' stat line:

6,319 poasts.

4,154 awful living in the past poasts about 7 footers dominating 6'6" 200 pounders.

2,065 poasts hating.

Total of 6,319 poasts of pure trash.

[Bless Mathews]

Why are you particularly insecure about Lavine, dude?


Lavine fucced his daughter after taking her out to Taco Bell.

[chocolatethunder]

Let's take a look at tonight's stat-line...

WOW! 40 minutes played.

9 points, 8 assists, 4 rebs, 3 stls, 6 TOs, 4-16 FG/FGA, 0-2 3pt, 1-2 FT.

Oh, and the Warrior guards, both of whom only played 30 mpg...42 points on 17-35 shooting.

0-8 as a starter. Losses by margins of 2, 10, 12, 14, 16, 17, 22, and 48 points.

When is Rubio ever coming back?

I don't think you're being realistic and you're just being an ass. This is a kid who played one year of college and certainly wasn't supposed to be starting this year. Ok so he's 0-8 as a starter 20 games into his rookie season on an awful team. Who cares? We're talking 20 games from a guy who played one year of college. Look at Kobe's rookie year. he hardly set the league on fire. I assure you that Lavine is not the reason this team is losing. It's not like Lavine was drafted first overall, he was drafted at the end of the lottery. Even if he were, it makes no difference. Steph Curry was 26-56 his rookie season, I assume that was his fault. He then won 23 the next season. Man, he probably should have quit after that. They are kids, they need time to develop so give them time. It's unfortunate as basketball fans that we have to witness the uglines of kids' games developing but that's how it is now. Apart from one troll, no one here EVER hyped Lavine as the best player in this draft. If you're a basketball fan you should hope that he becomes a stud because this league could certainly use it. In his last seven games he's scored in double figures five times with two of those games being over 20 pts. So don't sit there and tell me about what he didn't do at UCLA because he's doing this in the NBA. Just chill and obsess about some other player.

[LAZERUSS]

I don't think you're being realistic and you're just being an ass. This is a kid who played one year of college and certainly wasn't supposed to be starting this year. Ok so he's 0-8 as a starter 20 games into his rookie season on an awful team. Who cares? We're talking 20 games from a guy who played one year of college. Look at Kobe's rookie year. he hardly set the league on fire. I assure you that Lavine is not the reason this team is losing. It's not like Lavine was drafted first overall, he was drafted at the end of the lottery. Even if he were, it makes no difference. Steph Curry was 26-56 his rookie season, I assume that was his fault. He then won 23 the next season. Man, he probably should have quit after that. They are kids, they need time to develop so give them time. It's unfortunate as basketball fans that we have to witness the uglines of kids' games develop but that's how it is now. Apart from one troll, no one here EVER hyped Lavine as the best player in this draft. If you're a basketball fan you should hope that he becomes a stud because this league could certainly use it. In his last seven games he's scored in double figures five times with two of those games being over 20 pts. So don't sit there and tell me about what he didn't do at UCLA because he's doing this in the NBA. Just chill and obsess about some other player.

He had ONE good game...a 28 point game against a worthless Laker defense, and another 22 point game against a second-string Spurs team that was leading by 28 points when he finally started scoring (oh and played 43 minutes too.)

He didn't do it at UCLA because he was a bench player who was just awful in UCLA's biggest games. He would be a bench player there this year too. And keep in mind that he wasn't even highly recruited out of HIGH SCHOOL!

Sorry, but I don't see it.

As far as TEAM record goes...it IS important. He is doing most of what little damage he has done, against scrubs and in blowout losses.

He MAY prove me wrong. But right now he is nowhere near a decent player.

[SugarHill]

Watch the game. Then type


Lazerus' stat line:

6,319 poasts.

4,154 awful living in the past poasts about 7 footers dominating 6'6" 200 pounders.

2,065 poasts hating.

Total of 6,319 poasts of pure trash.
:roll:

[Bless Mathews]

He had ONE good game...a 28 point game against a worthless Laker defense, and another 22 point game against a second-string Spurs team that was leading by 28 points when he finally started scoring (oh and played 43 minutes too.)

He didn't do it at UCLA because he was a bench player who was just awful in UCLA's biggest games. He would be a bench player there this year too. And keep in mind that he wasn't even highly recruited out of HIGH SCHOOL!

Sorry, but I don't see it.

As far as TEAM record goes...it IS important. He is doing most of what little damage he has done, against scrubs and in blowout losses.

He MAY prove me wrong. But right now he is nowhere near a decent player.

Haha.

Out of high school? Haha. I'm from Seattle bruh. Gym was full of d 1 scouts.

50th ranked in 2013. Turned down Louisville and chose ucla.

50th in the entire nation out of high school.

Next.

Stop typing out your ass.

[tpols]

Haha.

Out of high school? Haha. I'm from Seattle bruh. Gym was full of d 1 scouts.

50th ranked in 2013. Turned down Louisville and chose ucla.

50th in the entire nation out of high school.

Next.

Stop typing out your ass.
50th out of high school? What's that, 200th out of college? Top 1000 out of pros?:lol

[Bless Mathews]

50th out of high school? What's that, 200th out of college? Top 1000 out of pros?

Huh? Sup cuz? Why you hatin to?

Top 50 out of high school in the nation is "highly recruited"

Plenty of kids get better and better. MJ prolly wasn't in the top 100 , 200. Shit.

[SugarHill]

50th out of high school? What's that, 200th out of college? Top 1000 out of pros?:lol
Considering he ended up a lottery pick in the NBA, it really didn't matter much, did it?

[LAZERUSS]

Haha.

Out of high school? Haha. I'm from Seattle bruh. Gym was full of d 1 scouts.

50th ranked in 2013. Turned down Louisville and chose ucla.

50th in the entire nation out of high school.

Next.

Stop typing out your ass.

Maybe you should do some actual RESEARCH before blindly typing garbage.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zach_LaVine


LaVine attended Bothell High School in Bothell, Washington.[1] Playing point guard, he was their primary ball handler.[3] In his senior year, he averaged 28.5 points, 3.4 rebounds, and 2.5 assists per game, and was named the 2013 Associated Press Washington state player of the year and Washington Mr. Basketball;[1] however, he only received limited national recognition

And a BACKUP at UCLA who FLOPPED in his biggest games.

Next...

[Cocaine80s]

Maybe you should do some actual RESEARCH before blindly typing garbage.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zach_LaVine



And a BACKUP at UCLA who FLOPPED in his biggest games.

Next...
Are you seriously using Wikipedia as a legit source? :biggums:

Look at the espn high school rankings: http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/127031/zach-lavine


50th nationally and #1 in his state

[LAZERUSS]

I don't think you're being realistic and you're just being an ass. This is a kid who played one year of college and certainly wasn't supposed to be starting this year. Ok so he's 0-8 as a starter 20 games into his rookie season on an awful team. Who cares? We're talking 20 games from a guy who played one year of college. Look at Kobe's rookie year. he hardly set the league on fire. I assure you that Lavine is not the reason this team is losing. It's not like Lavine was drafted first overall, he was drafted at the end of the lottery. Even if he were, it makes no difference. Steph Curry was 26-56 his rookie season, I assume that was his fault. He then won 23 the next season. Man, he probably should have quit after that. They are kids, they need time to develop so give them time. It's unfortunate as basketball fans that we have to witness the uglines of kids' games developing but that's how it is now. Apart from one troll, no one here EVER hyped Lavine as the best player in this draft. If you're a basketball fan you should hope that he becomes a stud because this league could certainly use it. In his last seven games he's scored in double figures five times with two of those games being over 20 pts. So don't sit there and tell me about what he didn't do at UCLA because he's doing this in the NBA. Just chill and obsess about some other player.

Curry was a GREAT college player.

A THREE year starter who averaged 22, 26, and 29 ppg.

EVERYONE knew this kid would be special.

Zach Lavine?

A 9 ppg scorer on a a poor FG%. And was a no-show in UCLA's three NCAA tournament games.

I don't blame Lavine for taking the millions. BUT, I do blame a system in which scouts do not take into account HOW a player played. Hell, in Exum's case, NO ONE even SAW him play.

Just ridiculous.

[JtotheIzzo]

Before Lebron arrived, Wade was pretty much a "loser", as well. Same with Chris Bosh before he joined up.

Above is another LAZERPUSS flop. Take what he says with a quarry of salt.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10761298&postcount=5

Zach Levine is playing great ball, he has many attributes that will lead to a long NBA career (length, speed, hustle). With Wiggins going off tonight, the Wolves could be looking at a decade with two dobermans in the backcourt making life hell for the opposition.

Results are irrelevant this year, if they cared about winning they'd have kept Love.

Its about getting Lavine, Wiggins, Dieng, Bennett and Muhammed reps.

Let them go out make mistakes and get better, add in one more pick, then trade Rubio, Peckovic, Martin for parts and picks are you are quickly building a 50-60 win team that will have long success.

The Wolves nailed this, give them, and Mr. Lavine credit.

[LAZERUSS]

Are you seriously using Wikipedia as a legit source? :biggums:

Look at the espn high school rankings: http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/127031/zach-lavine


50th nationally and #1 in his state

http://grantland.com/features/swinging-on-the-nba-draft-yo-yo/


t was happening again. Zach LaVine couldn’t hit a shot. For the first 39 minutes of UCLA’s dusting of Utah in February, the Bruins’ sixth man had gone without a basket. There were two clanked 3s, a pair of missed free throws, and even a botched bunny after an offensive rebound. When LaVine stepped to the line with 30 seconds left, he was just 1-for-7 on the day.

UCLA’s student section was already abuzz, with their third straight conference win in hand, but as LaVine waited for the ball, they focused their chatter on the freshman standing at the line. The game equaled LaVine’s worst of the season from the floor, but even worse, it was just the latest in a nightmarish stretch. In his previous six games, LaVine had shot 7-of-36, but when the chant from across the court began, it wasn’t an attack. It was a plea.

One more year! One more year!

Coming to UCLA, LaVine was a highly sought-after West Coast product, but he was dwarfed on a national level by the best incoming class in recent memory. He was the best player in the state of Washington, sure, but he wasn’t a McDonald’s All American. He wasn’t even Matt Jones, let alone Jabari Parker.

[Cocaine80s]

http://grantland.com/features/swinging-on-the-nba-draft-yo-yo/

And keep in mind that he wasn't even highly recruited out of HIGH SCHOOL!



http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/127031/zach-lavine

Again, as has been said many times in this thread...

Quit talking out your ass bro

[LAZERUSS]

Above is another LAZERPUSS flop. Take what he says with a quarry of salt.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10761298&postcount=5

Zach Levine is playing great ball, he has many attributes that will lead to a long NBA career (length, speed, hustle). With Wiggins going off tonight, the Wolves could be looking at a decade with two dobermans in the backcourt making life hell for the opposition.

Results are irrelevant this year, if they cared about winning they'd have kept Love.

Its about getting Lavine, Wiggins, Dieng, Bennett and Muhammed reps.

Let them go out make mistakes and get better, add in one more pick, then trade Rubio, Peckovic, Martin for parts and picks are you are quickly building a 50-60 win team that will have long success.

The Wolves nailed this, give them, and Mr. Lavine credit.

Wade had ONE run in which his team accomplished anything before Lebron arrived. IMMEDIATELY after his 06 run... sweeping first round exit, 10-41 and missed playoffs, first round exit, and first round exit.

How is he doing this year in the weak Eastern Conference? When he plays (which is only about 2/3's of the time... 6-7.

Sorry, but Wade is vastly over-rated.

[SugarHill]

Wade had ONE run in which his team accomplished anything before Lebron arrived. IMMEDIATELY after his 06 run... sweeping first round exit, 10-41 and missed playoffs, first round exit, and first round exit.

How is he doing this year in the weak Eastern Conference? When he plays (which is only about 2/3's of the time... 6-7.

Sorry, but Wade is vastly over-rated.
As we all know, Wade had a great cast around him between his first championship and LeBron's time Miami. :applause:

[LAZERUSS]

Above is another LAZERPUSS flop. Take what he says with a quarry of salt.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10761298&postcount=5

Zach Levine is playing great ball, he has many attributes that will lead to a long NBA career (length, speed, hustle). With Wiggins going off tonight, the Wolves could be looking at a decade with two dobermans in the backcourt making life hell for the opposition.

Results are irrelevant this year, if they cared about winning they'd have kept Love.

Its about getting Lavine, Wiggins, Dieng, Bennett and Muhammed reps.

Let them go out make mistakes and get better, add in one more pick, then trade Rubio, Peckovic, Martin for parts and picks are you are quickly building a 50-60 win team that will have long success.

The Wolves nailed this, give them, and Mr. Lavine credit.


OR, more than likely, Wiggins never pans out; Dieng continues to play like he did in COLLEGE, when he was basically mediocre; and Bennett continues to play like he has in first two NBA seasons, which is nothing to write home about, and Lavine never reaches his "potential"...

The ONLY player out of your grouping that looks to be a reasonably sound pro, is Muhammad...who was a good player at UCLA (something that Lavine wasn't.)

I don't see anything near a 40 win team with that collection, much less a 60 win team. Sure, who knows who they will draft after finishing 17-65 this year...but I doubt there is one player in college this year that can dramatically turn this group of mis-fits into a winner.

[imdaman99]

Is this gonna be a thread bumped by his hater (laz) or his official stan (cocaine) after each and every one of his games???? I appreciate the updates, better than reading about what cereals Blake Griffin eats each and every morning (clippersfan) :cheers:

[LAZERUSS]

Is this gonna be a thread bumped by his hater (laz) or his official stan (cocaine) after each and every one of his games???? I appreciate the updates, better than reading about what cereals Blake Griffin eats each and every morning (clippersfan) :cheers:

No reason to continue.

Lavine likely will be, at best, a poor-man's Shannon Brown.

But, I'm sure he will occasionally throw up some pure luck games, in garbage time, and against scrubs, in blowout games...and the "Lavine-lovers" will come out of the woodwork to remind me of just how great he MIGHT become.

[SugarHill]

OR, more than likely, Wiggins never pans out; Dieng continues to play like he did in COLLEGE, when he was basically mediocre; and Bennett continues to play like he has in first two NBA seasons, which is nothing to write home about, and Lavine never reaches his "potential"...

The ONLY player out of your grouping that looks to be a reasonably sound pro, is Muhammad...who was a good player at UCLA (something that Lavine wasn't.)

I don't see anything near a 40 win team with that collection, much less a 60 win team. Sure, who knows who they will draft after finishing 17-65 this year...but I doubt there is one player in college this year that can dramatically turn this group of mis-fits into a winner.

Wiggins one year in college was as good, if not better than what Shabazz did, not that it means anything to their professional trajectory.

[LAZERUSS]

Wiggins one year in college was as good, if not better than what Shabazz did, not that it means anything to their professional trajectory.

Oh, I am not really dismissing Wiggins potential. He was THE talk of college basketball for most of the year last year (him and Embiid.) But, at least he put up decent numbers.

Lavine has never proven to be anything special. He had a good high school career, but wasn't highly pursued by colleges. And his college career (and again, against either "one-and-done's, or nobodies), he was a 9 ppg .442 shooter, who failed miserably in his team's three biggest games.

As bad as Rubio has been, he is the better player.

[PsychoBe]

laz off his meds again :facepalm

[tpols]

Huh? Sup cuz? Why you hatin to?

Top 50 out of high school in the nation is "highly recruited"

Plenty of kids get better and better. MJ prolly wasn't in the top 100 , 200. Shit.

You right.

Just jumping in combative.

[JtotheIzzo]

The ONLY player out of your grouping that looks to be a reasonably sound pro, is Muhammad...who was a good player at UCLA (something that Lavine wasn't.)




and the hits keep on coming...

[chocolatethunder]

He had ONE good game...a 28 point game against a worthless Laker defense, and another 22 point game against a second-string Spurs team that was leading by 28 points when he finally started scoring (oh and played 43 minutes too.)

He didn't do it at UCLA because he was a bench player who was just awful in UCLA's biggest games. He would be a bench player there this year too. And keep in mind that he wasn't even highly recruited out of HIGH SCHOOL!

Sorry, but I don't see it.

As far as TEAM record goes...it IS important. He is doing most of what little damage he has done, against scrubs and in blowout losses.

He MAY prove me wrong. But right now he is nowhere near a decent player.
You're a fool. He was losing minutes to the coaches son which was a joke and considered a joke by anyone who even remotely followed UCLA's program. Alford was playing his son who is a bum because he was his son.

You really need to give it up you're just making yourself look like a fool. I'm sure you're not old enough to have seen Kobe's rookie year but I remember it well. How did he perform in the playoffs? Did he shoot any air balls? It's called growing and learning. Please compile a list for me of rookies/freshman who made no mistakes while they were learning. Yeah man, Westbrook's freshman season at UCLA was amazing. His sophomore wasn't even that good. You need to get a grip. Do you remember Shawn Kemp's rookie season? He was 20 years old (older than Lavine). What about Garnetts rookie season? He played almost 30 min a game and only managed 10pts on an awful team and he was selected 5th. Or how about Tyson Chandler who was selected 2nd in the draft? It took him YEARS to become a decent player. You need to give it up.

[chocolatethunder]

Oh, I am not really dismissing Wiggins potential. He was THE talk of college basketball for most of the year last year (him and Embiid.) But, at least he put up decent numbers.

Lavine has never proven to be anything special. He had a good high school career, but wasn't highly pursued by colleges. And his college career (and again, against either "one-and-done's, or nobodies), he was a 9 ppg .442 shooter, who failed miserably in his team's three biggest games.

As bad as Rubio has been, he is the better player.
You've got to be kidding me. Wiggins college "career" was considered a disappointment and huge shortcomings were revealed in his game. He went from the can't lose generational talent to a super athletic solid player who was going to lose his spot as the first pick to Emiid if Embiid didn't get hurt. How has Wiggins played? Marginally better than Lavine has as a starter. Certainly not better enough to warrant him being the number one pick. Jesus man.

[chocolatethunder]

No reason to continue.

Lavine likely will be, at best, a poor-man's Shannon Brown.

But, I'm sure he will occasionally throw up some pure luck games, in garbage time, and against scrubs, in blowout games...and the "Lavine-lovers" will come out of the woodwork to remind me of just how great he MIGHT become.
Let's look at Lavine against this rookie class.
He and Wiggins are playing about on par with each other since Lavine has been a starter.

Parker is playing better than he is for sure.

Embiid is hurt. Gordon is hurt but looked awful.

Exum looks terrible.

Smart has looked good defensively so I'll call that a wash.

Randle is hurt.

Stauskas has looked awful.

Vonleh is barely playing and was hurt for a little.

Payton has regressed and Lavine is playing better than he is now.

McDermott has not looked good.

Saric is in Europe.

Noel has not looked better than Lavine.

The best rookie so far is McDaniels and he just keeps getting better and he was picked early in the second round.

So right now, you have one rookie chosen before Lavine who is outplaying him and two rookies chosen before him who have played on his level. There are several players (Smart, Payton, Stauskas, NcDermott) who had more than one year of college.

It's nice to know that you, LAZERUSS have a crystal ball when it comes to projecting how players will develop. I know it seems hard for you to believe, but teams have scouts and GM's who get paid to evaluate players and their potential for a living. I think that there's a pretty good chance that they know more than you or I or anyone else does who visits here. There is not way however to be right all the time about anyone. It's not possible. Sure things blow up all the time and fade away into obscurity. I listened to Sam Hinkie talk about this. He said that in spite of all the metrics in the world you can't get everything right and you're going to miss some picks and you're going to pick some duds. But for you after 20 games to have some weird vendetta against a guy who is starting to play well after getting minutes is childish and annoying. You are seriously on Euroleague's level these days. You just make an absurd statement and you're defending that position/statement to the death. If your intention was to look like a moron, congratulations, you succeeded.

[Kblaze8855]

What the hell is wrong with this dude in here? This is one of the most head scratching topics of hate ive ever read.

[Proctor]

It's nice to know that you, LAZERUSS have a crystal ball when it comes to projecting how players will develop. I know it seems hard for you to believe, but teams have scouts and GM's who get paid to evaluate players and their potential for a living. I think that there's a pretty good chance that they know more than you or I or anyone else does who visits here. There is not way however to be right all the time about anyone. It's not possible. Sure things blow up all the time and fade away into obscurity. I listened to Sam Hinkie talk about this. He said that in spite of all the metrics in the world you can't get everything right and you're going to miss some picks and you're going to pick some duds. But for you after 20 games to have some weird vendetta against a guy who is starting to play well after getting minutes is childish and annoying. You are seriously on Euroleague's level these days. You just make an absurd statement and you're defending that position/statement to the death. If your intention was to look like a moron, congratulations, you succeeded.
Perfectly said, and I was thinking the exact same thing. And Hinkie is 100% correct.

[Sammyzuko]

The kid is a 19yr old rookie shooting guard being forced to run point on a bad team. I'd say he's doing pretty damn well.

[Im so nba'd out]

37 points 9 rebounds 4 assist but he does nothing on the court..

[LAZERUSS]

37 points 9 rebounds 4 assist but he does nothing on the court..

The game in the OP came in his 11th game. Tonight's game came in his 75th.

Care to post his 73 other games.

[Dave3]

The game in the OP came in his 11th game. Tonight's game came in his 75th.

Care to post his 73 other games.
As a starter this year, he's put up 13/4/5 on 43/36/83. I'd say that's pretty solid for a rookie, especially as a building block beside Wiggins in the backcourt. If they're able to get one of KAT or Okafor, that's 3 different positions where they'll have potential all stars, all at 20 years old. If they're able to keep that core together for long enough, they're going to be a very good team in the future.

[Eric Cartman]

MJ > LaVine > Joel Anthony > Vagisil > Wilt

Zach still has time, doe.

[aj1987]

MJ > LaVine > Joel Anthony > Vagisil > Wilt

Zach still has time, doe.
Fixed.

[Eric Cartman]

Fixed.

How could I be so blind?

Fixed :dancin

[CarlosBoozer]

Zach is so freaking inconsistent with his play.. That's all.

[AkronAngel]

Stay mad haters

37 points against the mvp 4/11/15

LaVine has haters?

[Cocaine80s]

LaGoat averaging 24/6/6 on 48% last 5 games. Including 37 vs golden state http://www.kanyetothe.com/forum/Smileys/default/3V8qFHN.png

[Bless Mathews]

LaGoat averaging 24/6/6 on 48% last 5 games. Including 37 vs golden state http://www.kanyetothe.com/forum/Smileys/default/3V8qFHN.png


:applause:

I tell you I ran into his high school coach at elevated Sportz in Bothel ?