View Full Version : Kobe surpassing Jordan in total points doesnt mean sh*t and here is why
Bigsmoke
10-29-2014, 11:07 AM
1. Kobe is the all time leader in shots missed....: enough said hammerhead:
2. Kobe played more minutes and games already
3. He a b*tch
4. His FG% is aight compared to others on that list
So yeah... If you look at is as an accomplishment then congratulations once he achieves it bit just remember... There is one MJ
Clyde
10-29-2014, 11:17 AM
Location: Chicago
c5terror
10-29-2014, 11:17 AM
1. Kobe is the all time leader in shots missed....: enough said hammerhead:
2. Kobe played more minutes and games already
3. He a b*tch
4. His FG% is rately impressive compared to other on that list
So yeah... If you look at is as an accomplishment then congratulations once he achieves it bit just remember... There is one MJ
:oldlol: 32k+ points Doesn't mean shit? really?
yes i do agree that he won't surpass jordan with that but dude get real, it will add a mass for a solid argument against other top 10-5 ATG.
SOD 21
10-29-2014, 11:19 AM
OP is throwing a tantrum.
Just give props to old man Kobe for having a great career and move on.
Mr Feeny
10-29-2014, 11:19 AM
:oldlol: 32k+ points Doesn't mean shit? really?
yes i do agree that he won't surpass jordan with that but dude get real, it will add a mass for a solid argument against other top 10-5 ATG.
He has a lower fg% than almost all of them, so no it won't make a difference. Chucking doesn't lead to you becoming a top 10 player of all time:applause:
r15mohd
10-29-2014, 11:45 AM
Location: Chicago
countered with facts, see post #1
imnew09
10-29-2014, 11:49 AM
already making up excuses? :roll: :lol
c5terror
10-29-2014, 11:49 AM
He has a lower fg% than almost all of them, so no it won't make a difference. Chucking doesn't lead to you becoming a top 10 player of all time:applause:
yeah cause all of them were bigs :facepalm
an SG with 30k+ points with 45%fg is great anyone who said otherwise is LOL
G0ATbe
10-29-2014, 11:50 AM
Kobe >>>>>>>>>>>>> MJ.
Bigsmoke
10-29-2014, 11:51 AM
Location: Chicago
Kobe not missing so many shot would of made this "potential" milestone less inflating
LoneyROY7
10-29-2014, 11:52 AM
24 > 23.
SOD 21
10-29-2014, 11:52 AM
1. Kareem - 1.33 pps & 59.2% TS
2. Malone - 1.40 pps & 57.7% TS
3. Jordan - 1.31 pps & 56.9% TS
4. Bryant - 1.30 pps & 55.5% TS
5. Wilt - 1.33 pps & 54.7% TS
SouBeachTalents
10-29-2014, 12:02 PM
Goatbe>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MJ.
Fixed
AlphaWolf24
10-29-2014, 12:02 PM
Mad..
next
imdaman99
10-29-2014, 12:05 PM
No kidding he isn't getting past Jordan. State more obvious things for us :rolleyes:
He has 5 rings and MJ has 6 going undefeated in the Finals. In the grand scheme of things amongst greats, rings is the deciding factor and that is why MJ is the goat. But to say him surpassing MJ in points doesn't mean shit leads me to believe you are 1 insecure btch :facepalm
dubeta
10-29-2014, 12:18 PM
:applause: :applause:
More points than Jordan is like saying Norris Cole has more rings than KG
incredible accomplishment when he does it..
top 3 all time NBA scorer, rare air
Bigsmoke
10-29-2014, 12:46 PM
1. Kareem - 1.33 pps & 59.2% TS
2. Malone - 1.40 pps & 57.7% TS
3. Jordan - 1.31 pps & 56.9% TS
4. Bryant - 1.30 pps & 55.5% TS
5. Wilt - 1.33 pps & 54.7% TS
TS is a garbage stat
Noob Saibot
10-29-2014, 01:26 PM
Smoke, u know these Kobetards ain't tryna hear facts.
hiphopfan777
10-29-2014, 02:10 PM
Jordan never scored 81, never averaged 50 for a whole month, never outscored a team when kobe had 62 in three quarters vs finals team falls in 2006.
SouBeachTalents
10-29-2014, 02:12 PM
Jordan never scored 81, never averaged 50 for a whole month, never outscored a team when kobe had 62 in three quarters vs finals team falls in 2006.
Jordan
5 MVP's
6 Finals MVP's
10 scoring titles
Kobe
1 MVP
2 Finals MVP's
2 scoring titles
stalkerforlife
10-29-2014, 02:12 PM
32,000+ points is meaningless now.
:hammerhead:
stalkerforlife
10-29-2014, 02:13 PM
Jordan
5 MVP's
6 Finals MVP's
10 scoring titles
Kobe
1 MVP
2 Finals MVP's
2 scoring titles
Jordan is better than Kobe, but don't forget context.
dubeta
10-29-2014, 02:26 PM
Jordan
5 MVP's
6 Finals MVP's
10 scoring titles
Kobe
1 MVP
2 Finals MVP's
2 scoring titles
Lets also look at FG%
MJ 50%
Kobe 45%
DPOY
MJ 1
Kobe 0
SOD 21
10-29-2014, 02:32 PM
TS is a garbage stat
Yes, of course.
Any stat that factors in three-point shots and free throws should be completely disregarded. Evidently, the ability to draw free throws and make them and adjusting to how the game has changed with more three-point attempts is irrelevant.
Don't know why we're comparing these two...Jordan is the GOAT and Kobe is a fringe top 15 player of all time.
ImKobe
10-29-2014, 03:22 PM
1. Kareem - 1.33 pps & 59.2% TS
2. Malone - 1.40 pps & 57.7% TS
3. Jordan - 1.31 pps & 56.9% TS
4. Bryant - 1.30 pps & 55.5% TS
5. Wilt - 1.33 pps & 54.7% TS
:oldlol:, but but but but, Kobe is nowhere near MJ as a scorer :oldlol:
The difference really is that small when you take into account that Kobe shot way more jump shots than others in the top 5...Malone I think took 2nd most (he was taking like 1k jumpers a yr in his late 30s).
Wilt is obviously the worst in the top 5, because he was a HORRIBLE FT shooter.
Yes, of course.
Any stat that factors in three-point shots and free throws should be completely disregarded. Evidently, the ability to draw free throws and make them and adjusting to how the game has changed with more three-point attempts is irrelevant.
Now these fakkts don't like "advanced" stats :oldlol:
Cocaine80s
10-29-2014, 03:54 PM
Kobe>Jordan if he surpasses him in total points
SouBeachTalents
10-29-2014, 03:56 PM
Kobe>Jordan if he surpasses him in total points
:facepalm
Psileas
10-29-2014, 04:07 PM
Totals are longevity records, and longevity records are fine if you're running for GOAT, as long as you can back them up with a very dominant prime, which I'm hesitant to say that Kobe had. Karl Malone and Stockton are the kings of longevity records and still few care, due to them not having dominant enough primes. Kareem also has a lot of longevity records, but he also has a dominant enough prime to enable him to enter the GOAT discussions.
Yao Ming's Foot
10-29-2014, 04:22 PM
. Karl Malone and Stockton are the kings of longevity records and still few care, due to them not having rings.
Fixed that for you
Psileas
10-29-2014, 04:51 PM
Fixed that for you
You fixed nothing. It's mainly individual dominance what separates greats from all-time legends, not rings. Tony Parker easily beats Stockton in ring count and he's nowhere near him GOAT-wise. Isiah Thomas' rings beat Malone's and he's definitely below Malone - though somewhat close, because he has had multiple dominant playoff performances.
Clyde
10-29-2014, 05:07 PM
countered with facts, see post #1
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Yao Ming's Foot
10-29-2014, 06:51 PM
You fixed nothing. It's mainly individual dominance what separates greats from all-time legends, not rings. Tony Parker easily beats Stockton in ring count and he's nowhere near him GOAT-wise. Isiah Thomas' rings beat Malone's and he's definitely below Malone - though somewhat close, because he has had multiple dominant playoff performances.
If Karl Malone and John Stockton switched ring counts with Tim Duncan and Magic Johnson they would be considered the best at their positions of all time. :confusedshrug:
Smoke117
10-29-2014, 06:52 PM
Everybody already knows this doesn't mean shit when comparing them. We didn't need a thread on it.
Jordan
5 MVP's
6 Finals MVP's
10 scoring titles
Kobe
1 MVP
2 Finals MVP's
2 scoring titles
:roll:
Hoopz2332
10-29-2014, 08:35 PM
TS is a garbage stat
True. It's all about efg and raw FG for me:applause:
Hoopz2332
10-29-2014, 08:36 PM
Yes, of course.
Any stat that factors in three-point shots and free throws should be completely disregarded. Evidently, the ability to draw free throws and make them and adjusting to how the game has changed with more three-point attempts is irrelevant.
efg is better than TS
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