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mehyaM24
08-25-2014, 06:31 PM
http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/05/19/report-mark-cuban-hired-former-fbi-agent-to-investigate-league-referees-after-2006-finals/
http://houston.cbslocal.com/category/sports/Article.asp?id=93926
http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/nba/news/story?id=6211182
http://www.ign.com/boards/threads/tim-donaghy-discusses-2006-mavs-heat-nba-finals-reffing-on-galloway-and-company.187540689/

mark Cuban, tmac, pjax, certain referees ala donaghy all seem to think it was, but i see no proof other than a few miscalls and superstar treatment for wade.

i think we can all agree, the heat, as constructed, were one hit wonders (swept the next season), further proving wade couldn't win without another MVP caliber player.

boozehound
08-25-2014, 06:34 PM
yeah, cause this random thread on a message board will end all future debate.

navy
08-25-2014, 06:34 PM
http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/05/19/report-mark-cuban-hired-former-fbi-agent-to-investigate-league-referees-after-2006-finals/
http://houston.cbslocal.com/category/sports/Article.asp?id=93926
http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/nba/news/story?id=6211182
http://www.ign.com/boards/threads/tim-donaghy-discusses-2006-mavs-heat-nba-finals-reffing-on-galloway-and-company.187540689/

mark Cuban, tmac, pjax, certain referees ala donaghy all seem to think it was, but i see no proof other than a few miscalls and superstar treatment for wade.

i think we can all agree, the heat, as constructed, were one hit wonders (swept the next season), further proving wade couldn't win without another MVP caliber player.
They were just as good or better in 2005. :no:

JT123
08-25-2014, 06:35 PM
http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/05/19/report-mark-cuban-hired-former-fbi-agent-to-investigate-league-referees-after-2006-finals/
http://houston.cbslocal.com/category/sports/Article.asp?id=93926
http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/nba/news/story?id=6211182
http://www.ign.com/boards/threads/tim-donaghy-discusses-2006-mavs-heat-nba-finals-reffing-on-galloway-and-company.187540689/

mark Cuban, tmac, pjax, certain referees ala donaghy all seem to think it was, but i see no proof other than a few miscalls and superstar treatment for wade.

i think we can all agree, the heat, as constructed, were one hit wonders (swept the next season), further proving wade couldn't win without another MVP caliber player.
And this burns Wade stans to their core every day.

mehyaM24
08-25-2014, 06:36 PM
And this burns Wade stans to their core every day.


yeah, cause this random thread on a message board will end all future debate.
do you guys think the fix was in? i mean, mark cuban hired FBI agents to investigate the referees who worked the series. pretty crazy.

PJR
08-25-2014, 06:41 PM
do you guys think the fix was in? i mean, mark cuban hired FBI agents to investigate the referees who worked the series. pretty crazy.

Actually fool, he didn't.

http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/mavericks/post/_/id/4702047/cuban-i-never-hired-former-fbi-agent-to-investigate-06-finals

mehyaM24
08-25-2014, 06:42 PM
Actually fool, he didn't.

http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/mavericks/post/_/id/4702047/cuban-i-never-hired-former-fbi-agent-to-investigate-06-finals

*former fbi agent, good catch.

HylianNightmare
08-25-2014, 06:42 PM
Yes

JT123
08-25-2014, 06:48 PM
do you guys think the fix was in? i mean, mark cuban hired FBI agents to investigate the referees who worked the series. pretty crazy.
I don't know if they were trying to decide the winner, but I do believe that after the Heat fell behind 0-2 in the series Stern "encouraged" the refs to make the series more competitive. The refs knew the only way the Heat could stay within striking distance of the Mavs was to send Wade to the charity stripe, and send him there A LOT!
It is pretty funny how after winning the Championship Wade was never able to get out of the first round again, until Lebron came to his rescue.

PJR
08-25-2014, 06:53 PM
It is pretty funny how after winning the Championship Wade was never able to get out of the first round again, until Lebron came to his rescue.

It's also pretty funny how LeBron had zero NBA Finals wins to his credit before playing with Dwyane Wade and the Miami Heat.

LeBron had his tail tucked in between his ass against the Celtics in Eastern Semis in 2010, putting up 15/6/7 at home, in a 2-2 series. See here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4d-Mnfz6iB0


Played so terrible, that people around the league suspected he quit on the team because his mother was f*cking Delonte West.

Now what do you have to say about that? :confusedshrug:

GrapeApe
08-25-2014, 06:55 PM
They were just as good or better in 2005. :no:

Agreed, yet people conveniently fail to acknowledge it. From '04-'06 they improved every year going from the ECSF, to the ECF, to winning the Finals. How is that a "one hit wonder"? The Heat were 2 freak shoulder injuries from 3 straight finals appearances.

JT123
08-25-2014, 06:58 PM
It's also pretty funny how LeBron had zero NBA Finals wins to his credit before playing with Dwyane Wade and the Miami Heat.

LeBron had his tail tucked in between his ass against the Celtics in Eastern Semis in 2010, putting up 15/6/7 at home, in 2-2 series. See here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4d-Mnfz6iB0


Played so terrible, that people around the league suspected he quit on the team because his mother was f*cking Delonte West.

Now what do you have to say about that? :confusedshrug:
You saying you wouldn't quit on your team if a teammate was boinking your mom? :biggums:
Everyone in that locker room knew what Delonte was doing, but kept if from Lebron. :facepalm I wouldn't play for those backstabbers either.

GrapeApe
08-25-2014, 07:00 PM
I don't know if they were trying to decide the winner, but I do believe that after the Heat fell behind 0-2 in the series Stern "encouraged" the refs to make the series more competitive. The refs knew the only way the Heat could stay within striking distance of the Mavs was to send Wade to the charity stripe, and send him there A LOT!
It is pretty funny how after winning the Championship Wade was never able to get out of the first round again, until Lebron came to his rescue.

Then why were the Heat trailing by 13 points midway through the 4th quarter of game 3? Are you telling me they waited until THAT moment to start the rigging? And why did Dallas have a chance to ice the game at the FT line?

stalkerforlife
08-25-2014, 11:54 PM
At the time, I thought they were rigged.

I'd have to watch the series again to know for sure.

knicksman
08-26-2014, 12:02 AM
yup just proves that 2 rings>>>2* or bran<<<dirk. Yet these threads arent locked while dirk>>bran was. Just goes to show how much of a loser these mods are. LOL

MastaKilla
08-26-2014, 12:06 AM
Rumor has gone around for years in circles of people close on the nba. Most at the time believed it to be the NBAs attempt to burry Kobe Bryant by having Shaq win without him while also having Shaqs young new shooting guard to win FMVP in dramatic fashion.

You have to remember this is a time when Kobe was absolutely hated by the nba and had made the nba look like a joke when they gave Steve Nash the MVP during a year where Kobe set numerous records including a 81 point game in a season where he averaged 35/5/5 and led a d league level team to the playoffs..

There are MVP voters who didnt even have Kobe on the ballot in 06..

Luckily Kobe was able to overcome the odds & rise above hate to end up winning 2 more rings, but man.. Did the nba ever try to put the nail in the coffin of Kobes legacy that year.

JohnFreeman
08-26-2014, 12:06 AM
Nah. Dirk was kinda awful in the finals

SouBeachTalents
08-26-2014, 12:08 AM
Rumor has gone around for years in circles of people close on the nba. Most at the time believed it to be the NBAs attempt to burry Kobe Bryant by having Shaq win without him while also having Shaqs young new shooting guard to win FMVP in dramatic fashion.

You have to remember this is a time when Kobe was absolutely hated by the nba and had made the nba look like a joke when they gave Steve Nash the MVP during a year where Kobe set numerous records including a 81 point game in a season where he averaged 35/5/5 and led a d league level team to the playoffs..

There are MVP voters who didnt even have Kobe on the ballot in 06..

Luckily Kobe was able to overcome the odds & rise above hate to end up winning 2 more rings, but man.. Did the nba ever try to put the nail in the coffin of Kobes legacy that year.

:facepalm I seriously doubt that some dude who lost in the first round had ANY impact on what happened in the Finals. Literally one of the most absurd posts I've ever seen on this board, which is really saying something

stalkerforlife
08-26-2014, 12:09 AM
Nah. Dirk was kinda awful in the finals

He was also kinda mugged relentlessly.

While Wade was breathed on and went to the line.

PJR
08-26-2014, 12:13 AM
Rumor has gone around for years in circles of people close on the nba. Most at the time believed it to be the NBAs attempt to burry Kobe Bryant by having Shaq win without him while also having Shaqs young new shooting guard to win FMVP in dramatic fashion.

You have to remember this is a time when Kobe was absolutely hated by the nba and had made the nba look like a joke when they gave Steve Nash the MVP during a year where Kobe set numerous records including a 81 point game in a season where he averaged 35/5/5 and led a d league level team to the playoffs..

There are MVP voters who didnt even have Kobe on the ballot in 06..

Luckily Kobe was able to overcome the odds & rise above hate to end up winning 2 more rings, but man.. Did the nba ever try to put the nail in the coffin of Kobes legacy that year.

Kill yourself. Immediately.

mehyaM24
08-26-2014, 12:13 AM
:facepalm I seriously doubt that some dude who lost in the first round had ANY impact on what happened in the Finals. Literally one of the most absurd posts I've ever seen on this board, which is really saying something

i'd also like him to back up those statements. never heard that one before.

SouBeachTalents
08-26-2014, 12:18 AM
i'd also like him to back up those statements. never heard that one before.

Actually, I gotta give him some props. Here's some evidence backing what he said

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5A-cOmaaBgQ

zoom17
08-26-2014, 12:19 AM
Nothing tops 2002 WCF.

MastaKilla
08-26-2014, 12:20 AM
:facepalm I seriously doubt that some dude who lost in the first round had ANY impact on what happened in the Finals. Literally one of the most absurd posts I've ever seen on this board, which is really saying something

They had already taken away his MVP but when the heat made the finals they made the decision to put what they thought would be the proverbial nail in the coffin of Kobes legacy.

poido123
08-26-2014, 12:29 AM
No.

You can influence basketball, not rig it.