View Full Version : BBallBreakdown - Two Handed Set Shot: How Basketball Was Played in the 50s
jongib369
08-17-2014, 01:13 PM
Coach Nick got on the court with Sheldon Seltzer, who played basketball at NYU in 1952 for legendary coach Howard Cann. Sheldon went through the fundamentals of the 2 handed set shot, the one handed push shot, and the running hook. A fascinating glimpse into the history of the game.
http://youtu.be/V-FBs0Ng5Gs
lilteapot
08-17-2014, 01:23 PM
Coach Nick is an idiot.
Lebronxrings
08-17-2014, 01:24 PM
wow this just proves 50s were a weak era.
HomieWeMajor
08-17-2014, 01:29 PM
My 12 year old niece would be a HOFer in that era
LakersDaBEst
08-17-2014, 01:30 PM
Thats why Kobe > all those oldies
WillC
08-17-2014, 01:46 PM
Excellent video, thanks for sharing.
I particularly enjoyed the comments about how the rules are different now with regards to walking. He's right, if the old rules were applied, we'd see 20+ travel calls every game.
Credit where credit is due: I used to dislike Coach Nick for some of his comments about old school basketball, especially regarding the dribbling. But he's a real fan of the game and you won't find many people going to such lengths to learn about 1950s basketball. He's a real student of the game, and I admire that.
"I haven't tried a hook shot in maybe 60 years" - quote of the day.
Lebronxrings
08-17-2014, 01:49 PM
the dude was 5'7 and played ball back then. Probably wilts biggest competition :lol
Sheldon says the push shot is not a shot seen all that much in today's game.
But isn't shot called "tear drop"?
CP3 uses this running shot as many combo/ point guards in today's game.
Overall the video had nice info. Thanks for sharing.
duskovujosevic
08-17-2014, 04:23 PM
coach dick is noob
Joe Fulks invented jump shot, and was first to shoot with one hand. He played in same era as this two handed shooters.
Excellent video, thanks for sharing.
I particularly enjoyed the comments about how the rules are different now with regards to walking. He's right, if the old rules were applied, we'd see 20+ travel calls every game.
Credit where credit is due: I used to dislike Coach Nick for some of his comments about old school basketball, especially regarding the dribbling. But he's a real fan of the game and you won't find many people going to such lengths to learn about 1950s basketball. He's a real student of the game, and I admire that.
"I haven't tried a hook shot in maybe 60 years" - quote of the day.
Coach Knick is biased and not always right, but he's 100% correct about the dribbling and shows video proof. :confusedshrug:
Sakkreth
08-17-2014, 05:10 PM
Self entitled coach dick sucks, stop watching his videos, it's better for you.
jongib369
08-17-2014, 06:12 PM
Coach Knick is biased and not always right, but he's 100% correct about the dribbling and shows video proof. :confusedshrug:
Video proof? Remember him pointing or Jerry Wests dribbling once but he didn't know West had two sore thumbs.. Don't recall what he did to injure them but it it definitely hurt his dribbling
WillC
08-17-2014, 07:23 PM
coach dick is noob
Joe Fulks invented jump shot, and was first to shoot with one hand. He played in same era as this two handed shooters.
Joe Fulks was definitely a pioneer of the jumpshot but was certainly not the first to shoot with one hand. It's hard to pinpoint exactly who deserves credit for that but, if anyone, the credit goes to Hank Luisetti.
CavaliersFTW
08-17-2014, 07:31 PM
Video proof? Remember him pointing or Jerry Wests dribbling once but he didn't know West had two sore thumbs.. Don't recall what he did to injure them but it it definitely hurt his dribbling
:applause:
cranincu
08-17-2014, 07:35 PM
marc gasol does a 2 handed set shot from 19 feet out. we're in a weak era when he's a top center doing that ish
russwest0
08-17-2014, 07:35 PM
Sheldon says the push shot is not a shot seen all that much in today's game.
But isn't shot called "tear drop"?
CP3 uses this running shot as many combo/ point guards in today's game.
Overall the video had nice info. Thanks for sharing.
I think he meant from as far out as the 3pt line.
I see some old ass guy at the gym I go to do it and have some success. It's like a floater from the 3pt line, it's weird as fukk.
MiseryCityTexas
08-17-2014, 07:50 PM
wow this just proves 50s were a weak era.
bob cousy dominated the mid to late 50s/ very early 60s era of basketball simply off the fact that his moves at the time were revolutionary and cousy was a trendsetter back in the day.
fpliii
08-17-2014, 07:54 PM
Cool video. :applause:
dreamwarrior
08-17-2014, 10:17 PM
That 50's ball looks like it weighs 2lbs. No wonder they played like they did back then
feyki
12-12-2015, 05:12 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CsX9UOF9bN4
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=R-pPZ8PX0nE
Two handed set shots is spacing of the 30's , 40's and Half of the 50's .
Kenny Sailors is inventor of the Jump Shot .
fragokota
12-12-2015, 05:22 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CsX9UOF9bN4
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=R-pPZ8PX0nE
Two handed set shots is spacing of the 30's , 40's and Half of the 50's .
Kenny Sailors is inventor of the Jump Shot .
There were times in the first vid where it was like watching handball. All the passing in the perimeter without dribbling and not entering the paint.
jongib369
12-12-2015, 05:32 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CsX9UOF9bN4
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=R-pPZ8PX0nE
Two handed set shots is spacing of the 30's , 40's and Half of the 50's .
Kenny Sailors is inventor of the Jump Shot .
*edit
Check this out
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=384832
The H. V. Porter Films: 1932 to 1936 IHSA Boys Basketball Tournaments
Introduction (2:50, near half court shots were "common")
https://youtu.be/3Xutjhk-KD8
Straight_Ballin
12-12-2015, 06:09 PM
wow this just proves 50s were a weak era.
All this proves is that if not for the 50s, you would probably not have a life because there wouldn't be any basketball to talk about.
feyki
12-12-2015, 06:14 PM
There were times in the first vid where it was like wathing handball. All the passing in the perimeter without dribbling and not entering the paint.
Yes , Game probably was like handball in 1920's . Game evolved year by year to more dribbling basketball . NBA(actually basketball) changed when Mikan retired and work on "how we make better basketball? " . More freedom on offences , guards . Mikan always says that ; We should get the 3 point line for guards freedoms on court . Mikan created the ABA . And ABA had first hand checking cultures on the court and first 3 point line system in basketball history .
*edit
Check this out
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=384832
The H. V. Porter Films: 1932 to 1936 IHSA Boys Basketball Tournaments
Introduction (2:50, near half court shots were "common")
https://youtu.be/3Xutjhk-KD8
Wow , great article man . I will check deeply this later .
MiseryCityTexas
12-12-2015, 06:16 PM
marc gasol does a 2 handed set shot from 19 feet out. we're in a weak era when he's a top center doing that ish
Mark Price and Ron Harper's mid to late 80s Cavs teams would win a championship in today's shitty era of basketball.
feyki
12-12-2015, 06:26 PM
Mark Price and Ron Harper's mid to late 80s Cavs teams would win a championship in today's shitty era of basketball.
They would probably got injured at those days . Early basketball tougher as street basketball . Fouls and field goal mades numbers are similar at early basketball .
Jameerthefear
12-12-2015, 06:32 PM
Mark Price and Ron Harper's mid to late 80s Cavs teams would win a championship in today's shitty era of basketball.
sure they would buddy
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