Clipers agree to 4 yrs $23 mill w/ Spencer Hawes

[D-Rose]

@WojYahooNBA Free agent Spencer Hawes has reached agreement on a four-year, $23M deal with the Los Angeles Clippers

Nice addition...must be the MLE.

I wonder if they still make a run for Deng with a S&T. Pierce for a S&T would be nice too.

[PJR]

Interesting. Full Mid level. Clippers are now hard capped at 81 million.

[russwest0]

so they traded Darren Collison for Spencer Hawes?

Lol ok

[DMAVS41]

so they traded Darren Collison for Spencer Hawes?

Lol ok

Hawes will be better for them than Collison.

[Le Shaqtus]

I'm convinced this Clippers team is going nowhere no matter what they do, they're so stacked and yet have never made a conference finals.

[andremiller07]

That frontline looks very good

[IncarceratedBob]

Lmao stupid stupid move

[Al Thornton]

got exactly what they needed

now just have to try and get some better wing defenders and upgrade at small forward.

[russwest0]

I'm convinced this Clippers team is going nowhere no matter what they do, they're so stacked and yet have never made a conference finals.

Won't stop #ESPN from using this meaningless signing to hype the **** outta them tho

[Al Thornton]

I'm convinced this Clippers team is going nowhere no matter what they do, they're so stacked and yet have never made a conference finals.

lol at stacked


lol

they haven't had a good small forward ever

[Johnny Jones]

lol at stacked


lol

they haven't had a good small forward ever
and they still might not have one after this offseason...

[russwest0]

lol at stacked


lol

they haven't had a good small forward ever

oh so now that they lost in round 2 of the playoffs we can say "lol at stacked"

but right before the playoffs started last year (and this shit will probably happen again this year) we had to sit and listen to them get hyped like none ****ing other

[Uncle Drew]

Nice shooter, great passer, loved his playmaking. But, on the other hand, he's worse defensively than Bargnani.

[BlackWhiteGreen]

What a terrible contract.

Zach Lowe has it spot on: Doc just signing good EC players from 2009

[Le Shaqtus]

lol at stacked


lol

they haven't had a good small forward ever

Paul
Griffin
Redick
Crawford
Jordan
Granger

The rest of their positions are really good even Hedo and Davis are decent, there's no reason shouldn't have at least made a conference finals these past 3 years, and they get no flack for not living up to expectations, especially Paul.

The Thunder suck but Russ and Durant managed to drag a shitty Thunder team to the conference finals.

[Nash]

arent granger and davis free agents?

[Eric Cartman]

In a world where Jodie Meeks gets 19 mil, Hawes getting 23 is a fantastic move.

That Clippers front court is now one of the best in the league.

[FlawlessVictory]

Would have preferred three years and 16ish million but this is fine imo. Will be a great addition.

[Akrazotile]

Solid move

[DMAVS41]

Would have preferred three years and 16ish million but this is fine imo. Will be a great addition.

4 years 23 million for Hawes seems like a steal in this market honestly.

The 4th year is fine...he's in his prime. And that contract is not going to be tough to move if need be.

[Meticode]

That's a good deal. There was rumors he was going to get $8 million. Although 4 years is a long time too.

Clippers got what they needed, a stretch big-man that is capable of solid rebounding.

He'll help them more than Collison ever did.

[LBJ4MVP23]

Wtf? In an era devoid of big men and with emphasis on 3 point shooting you have a big man who can get boards, pass, and hit the 3 with some shot blocking mixed in (poor man defender imo) and he gets less than 6 mil a year?

[Meticode]

arent granger and davis free agents?
I hope Davis goes to the Heat so he can get yelled at and cry.

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/157728/crying-o.gif

[BlackWhiteGreen]

I hope Davis goes to the Heat so he can get yelled at and cry.

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/157728/crying-o.gif

Oden in a game long enough to foul out?!

[D-Rose]

Oden in a game long enough to foul out?!
2008 :P

[longtime lurker]

In a world where Jodie Meeks gets 19 mil, Hawes getting 23 is a fantastic move.

That Clippers front court is now one of the best in the league.

this times 100. Best signing of the offseason so far. The Clippers get a starting caliber center for the MLE.

[DMAVS41]

Wtf? In an era devoid of big men and with emphasis on 3 point shooting you have a big man who can get boards, pass, and hit the 3 with some shot blocking mixed in (poor man defender imo) and he gets less than 6 mil a year?

Yea...doesn't make much sense.

It isn't our biggest need or anything, but 23 million over 4 years for Hawes is just an asset. Especially going forward with cap and tax line increases over the duration of the contract.

Ugh...really starting to worry about the Mavs this summer.

[qrich]

So we went from the poor man's Hawes in Mullens, to giving the full midlevel to Hawes this summer?:no:

[LoneyROY7]

Won't stop #ESPN from using this meaningless signing to hype the **** outta them tho

:facepalm

You would be cumming your pants and praising Presti if OKC signed Hawes.

[russwest0]

:facepalm

You would be cumming your pants and praising Presti if OKC signed Hawes.

lol why would presti sign hawes? he's negative on all apm metrics...

we don't just pull shit out of our ass here in okc

[Locked_Up_Tonight]

I agree about the "negative impact" statement. His "value" reminds me of Kaman's value. Both put up good numbers. But when you actually look at the numbers, they don't translate to anything positive for the team.

The Clippers did get size though. He can be a backup 4/5 which they don't have.

[qrich]

:facepalm

You would be cumming your pants and praising Presti if OKC signed Hawes.

They have the great Telfair bruh

[Lebronxrings]

every fuking year we hear these fools hype the clips. We all know the end result - NO conference finals :oldlol: thats really sad.

[notatop29pg]

lol why would presti sign hawes? he's negative on all apm metrics...

we don't just pull shit out of our ass here in okc

Would be a great move for OKC if they had a pg that passed.

[Rooster]

Solid pickup IMO. He can offer another dimension that Clips need for a big, he can space the floor and make plays. Clips badly need a third wheel to play with Griffin and Jordan. He's what you need on offense defense switch in close games especially in the playoff

[AirTupac]

2nd round exit at best...

[joeyjoejoe]

Paul
Griffin
Redick
Crawford
Jordan
Granger

The rest of their positions are really good even Hedo and Davis are decent, there's no reason shouldn't have at least made a conference finals these past 3 years, and they get no flack for not living up to expectations, especially Paul.

The Thunder suck but Russ and Durant managed to drag a shitty Thunder team to the conference finals.

only refs held clipps back from wcf this year, as for shitty team in okc, did you see how old played without westbrook for nearly half a season lol

[Lamar Odumbb]

This move looks like Clippers anticipate Pau joining OKC and they need another big to counter Pau/Ibaka twin towers.

[QuebecBaller]

In a world where Jodie Meeks gets 19 mil, Hawes getting 23 is a fantastic move.

That Clippers front court is now one of the best in the league.

Blake, DJ and Hawes are one of the best front court? :rolleyes:

[Collie]

IF you rely on Hawes to be your primary big man, then he won't be of much help. But a 3rd big behind DJ and Blake? Then he becomes valuable.

I mean, how many centers shoot 41% from the 3? Shit, how many centers even score 13 ppg on 57% TS? At the very least, he'll add another dimension to the Clipper's attack.

[Random_Guy]

lol at stacked


lol

they haven't had a good small forward ever
are you serious? a solid and above average Center in Jordan, a All star and MVP caliber player in BG, a top3 PG, a ****ing deep bench and a 6th man of the year Crawford isnt stacked?
face it they underperformed and CP3 choked

[JohnFreeman]

Clippers still won't make the conference finals

[Done_And_Done]

Oden in a game long enough to foul out?!

Good eye

[Al Thornton]

are you serious? a solid and above average Center in Jordan, a All star and MVP caliber player in BG, a top3 PG, a ****ing deep bench and a 6th man of the year Crawford isnt stacked?
face it they underperformed and CP3 choked

what deep bench?

collison, dudley, granger, davis, turkoglu, hollins are all bad players. jamal is good but is one of the worst defensive players in the whole league.


do u watch basketball?

[To4]

another soft ass big who doesn't play defense... SMH

[qrich]

Clippers still won't make the conference finals

Kings still won't make the playoffs

[JohnFreeman]

Kings still won't make the playoffs
Yeah, but we have nowhere enar the talent the Clippers do. Clippers are underachieving like a mfer

[Meticode]

another soft ass big who doesn't play defense... SMH
Except he'll be the only big on the team that can shoot the three. He shot it at 45% for the Cavs last season. Also he'll be the best passing big-man on the team as well and one of the better ones in the league. He's not a banger, but he's still tough and has an attitude about him he projects.

Hawes backing down Green against Warriors: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=octXQnxO4oE#t=31

Hawes Passing to a cutting Irving: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=octXQnxO4oE#t=60

Hawes Running with the Fastbreak: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=octXQnxO4oE#t=76

Hawes Drives off the Dribble from the three point line and shows post moves: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=octXQnxO4oE#t=91

...Clippers are getting a center that shoots over 43% from three gets over 8 rebounds per game scores over 13 points per game in about 30 minutes per game for a little over $6 million. He'll provide a big that they don't have.

[BlazerRed]

Yeah, but we have nowhere enar the talent the Clippers do. Clippers are underachieving like a mfer
Agreed. Clippers are the deepest team in the league. Two legit stars + legit bench players. This team should really be making the WCF at least. The only reason they aren't copping the flack other teams would is because they're the ****ing Clippers. No one expects them to be good.

[Hotlantadude81]

Agreed. Clippers are the deepest team in the league. Two legit stars + legit bench players. This team should really be making the WCF at least. The only reason they aren't copping the flack other teams would is because they're the ****ing Clippers. No one expects them to be good.

Yep. The Clippers will not make the finals because they're the Clippers. They can try as hard as they can to stack players on the bench, but they don't have enough heart to win it all.

[GimmeThat]

that's a steal/robbery

Perk only played about 24 minutes per game in the season the Celtics won a championship.

If that's the production you are seeking from Hawes, 4 yrs 23mil just isn't even fair compared to how big mans are being paid these days.



Griffin against Batum

butt scratcher? anyone would like a butt scratcher?


butt scratcher!

[GimmeThat]

If they were serious about pierce, they should have went after him first instead of signing this contract.

actually, Pierce's responsibility just got lifted by a great amount if he still decides to join the Clippers.

[Done_And_Done]

Except he'll be the only big on the team that can shoot the three. He shot it at 45% for the Cavs last season. Also he'll be the best passing big-man on the team as well and one of the better ones in the league. He's not a banger, but he's still tough and has an attitude about him he projects.

Hawes backing down Green against Warriors: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=octXQnxO4oE#t=31

Hawes Passing to a cutting Irving: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=octXQnxO4oE#t=60

Hawes Running with the Fastbreak: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=octXQnxO4oE#t=76

Hawes Drives off the Dribble from the three point line and shows post moves: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=octXQnxO4oE#t=91

...Clippers are getting a center that shoots over 43% from three gets over 8 rebounds per game scores over 13 points per game in about 30 minutes per game for a little over $6 million. He'll provide a big that they don't have.

Good post Code. Quality...

[Done_And_Done]

Blake, DJ and Hawes are one of the best front court? :rolleyes:

In today's NBA, yeah they kinda are my man. They're definitely in the discussion...

[Meticode]

Blake, DJ and Hawes are one of the best front court? :rolleyes:
I wouldn't say that, but they are very balanced and you're underrating them. Jordan is a great shot blocker and rebounder, Griffin is a great banger in the post that can hit the mid-range shot and both of those players can jump out of the gym. And Hawes does what both of those players can't do. Which is hit the three at an extremely high rate and is the best passing big between the three of them.

If you combine all their stats they averaged like 47 PPG, 32 RPG, 4.7 BPG between the three of them. :confusedshrug: Are there currently three big (legit PFs/Centers) on a team right now that have those combined stats?

[bdreason]

That's a huge signing for the Clippers. Wish we would have got Hawes for the MLE. :mad: :mad: :mad:

[bdreason]

Wtf? In an era devoid of big men and with emphasis on 3 point shooting you have a big man who can get boards, pass, and hit the 3 with some shot blocking mixed in (poor man defender imo) and he gets less than 6 mil a year?


He should get a new agent. No way I thought someone would get Hawes for the MLE.

[bdreason]

If the Clippers get Pierce somehow. :no:

[wally_world]

Great value on that contract. But if i were the Clips i wouldve used that money to sign 2 big bodies. Still too thin on the frontline.

[andremiller07]

another soft ass big who doesn't play defense... SMH
Was the Cavs best big by far craped all over scrubs like Thompson

Crazy how underrated Hawes is on here high IQ can block the odd shot, excellent passer and can space the floor I mean seriously this so far is best signing of the off season by a huge margin,

[dab0yech0]

I love the signing. Brings us another dimension/attack which we are missing. Good shooter, good passer, solid rebounder. Will be the best backup big man we have had since when DJ used to backup Camby. Huge upgrade over Big Baby and Hollins.

Now we definitely need to find a backup PG and get rid of Jared Dudley.

[STATUTORY]

how can clippers sign free agents when their ownership is in transition mode? who gets the final sign off?

[MP.Trey]

Was the Cavs best big by far craped all over scrubs like Thompson

Crazy how underrated Hawes is on here high IQ can block the odd shot, excellent passer and can space the floor I mean seriously this so far is best signing of the off season by a huge margin,
Can't call Thompson a scrub, he was literally our best player and the only one giving a consistent effort for the first two months or so of the season. Best rebounder on the team other than Varejao when healthy and getting better on offense with his jumper/push shot inside. As a Cavs fan, I'd rather have the developing Thompson, than have to pay Hawes to stick around.

From a Clippers standpoint, I love the signing though. Hawes is a great passer for a big man, fantastic shooter from top of the key area and surprisingly has some moves down low for someone considered to be a perimeter big man. Great compliment to DJ, he does all the things DJ doesn't do well and vice-versa.

[ArbitraryWater]

Paul
Griffin
Redick
Crawford
Jordan
Granger

The rest of their positions are really good even Hedo and Davis are decent, there's no reason shouldn't have at least made a conference finals these past 3 years, and they get no flack for not living up to expectations, especially Paul.

The Thunder suck but Russ and Durant managed to drag a shitty Thunder team to the conference finals.

How is the thunder team a shitty one? :biggums:

Don't tell me you get fooled by russwest's posts and such...

Heck, Durant looked like a shitty player for quite some time, and so did Russ, yet they still won games with Reggie Jackson and Ibaka bailing their asses out... lol at shitty.

[Darius]

Suprised the Clippers got him so cheap.

He made $6.6m last year and is entering his prime... But he is taking pay cut to $5.5m.

I like the signing but still nervous giving away our MLE when we still have a big hole at starting SF

[DMV2]

:biggums: How did they get a quality big for $5 a year? You got stiffs like Humphries $12 million a year. Dalembert was getting $10-13 until GMs realized he's overpaid.

Even if Hawes end up sucking in LA, this is a very good contract to work around with.

[Fiasco]

Suprised the Clippers got him so cheap.

He made $6.6m last year and is entering his prime... But he is taking pay cut to $5.5m.

I like the signing but still nervous giving away our MLE when we still have a big hole at starting SF

LeBron is clearly signing here...... :oldlol: