Dario Saric Confirms That Europe is the NBA's minor league

[Jailblazers7]

Q. Dario, you mentioned that you want to work on your game overseas. Why do you feel working on it overseas as opposed to coming to the NBA now and working on those aspects of your game in the NBA is a better decision for you?

DARIO SARIC: I think I was starting to play basketball step by step. When I was 15, 14, I was playing for third league of Croatia. After that, I was playing two league of Croatia, after first league of Croatia, and after that I played like two years in Adriatic League. For me, it's normally next step is one or two years in Europe in Euroleague, and after that, like NBA.

http://www.asapsports.com/show_interview.php?id=100457

[GOBB]

Yeah I read this. Cool interview. I need to watch some footage of him.

[Nikola_]

Inb4 comparisons only to white players

[Milbuck]

Inb4 Euroleague
Fixed

[navy]

No shit.

[qrich]

http://media.trb.com/media/photo/2011-06/255820960-23160325.jpg

[Thunderfan86]

Inb4 someone post paragraphs upon paragraphs about this topic.

[buddha]

but who was D-League

[Oly BC]

Inb4 a wildly mediocre year in euroleague and a move to the NBA where he immediately owns everyone.

[STATUTORY]

Spurs is basically a euroleague team and trounced the quintessential american team this year int he Heat

[Oly BC]

Spurs is basically a euroleague team and trounced the quintessential american team this year int he Heat
No, euroleague teams don't rely on 38 year olds. Since every team has at least some amount of bb iq, you also need athleticism to win. It's not like the NBA where you could easily see the same spurs team dominating everyone for the next year or two (or more).

[LoneyROY7]

No, euroleague teams don't rely on 38 year olds. Since every team has at least some amount of bb iq, you also need athleticism to win. It's not like the NBA where you could easily see the same spurs team dominating everyone for the next year or two (or more).

:roll: :roll: :roll:

The 2014 NBA Finals MVP is a better athlete than any player in the Euroleague.

[Oly BC]

:roll: :roll: :roll:

The 2014 NBA Finals MVP is a better athlete than any player in the Euroleague.
I won't say anything bad about Leonard, now that's a truly good player who could have a great career in Euroleague if he chose to play with the big boys.
Of course abusing beta males like Lebron is an easier way to earn one's bread so I can see his reasoning.


What you said is laughable though. Leonard is pretty much the spitting image of Papanikolaou physically, height-wise, build-wise and speed-wise and even as players they're the same. Fast moving, "defence and 3" and lots of hustle. Papanikolaou is way more emphatic near the rim though, you'll never see him airballing a lay up like Leonard did many times in the finals.

But as I said I have faith in Leonard, he'll get there. I hope the US make the mistake of giving Durant or George more minutes in the World Cup.

[LoneyROY7]

I won't say anything but about Leonard, now that's a truly good player who could have a great career in Euroleague if he chose to play with the big boys.
Of course abusing beta males like Lebron is an easier way to earn one's bread so I can see his reasoning.


But what you said is laughable though. Leonard is pretty much the spitting image of Papanikolaou physically, height-wise, build-wise and speed-wise and even as players they're the same. Fast moving, "defence and 3" and lots of hustle. Papanikolaou is way more emphatic near the rim though, you'll never see him airballing a lay up like Leonard did many times in the finals.

But as I said I have faith in Leonard, he'll get there. I hope the US make the mistake of giving Durant or George more minutes in the World Cup.

:lol

Keeping living in your fantasy world in which European basketball is within even shouting distance of American basketball. I mean I guess they do need some supporters.

[Oly BC]

:lol

Keeping living in your fantasy world in which European basketball is within even shouting distance of American basketball. I mean I guess they do need some supporters.
Great arguments.:applause:














:facepalm
Well, I guess you did do your best.

[LoneyROY7]

The last two Euroleague MVPs: Sergio Rodriguez and Vassilis Spanoulis.

Let's take a quick look at Sergio and Vassilis's career numbers in the NBA...

Sergio Rodriguez: 4 seasons played - 4.3 ppg, 2.3 apg, and 1.3 rpg on 41.8 percent shooting.

Vassilis Spanoulis: 1 season played - 2.7 ppg, 0.9 apg, and 0.7 rpg on 31.9 percent shooting.

Such dominant players really proving their worth on American soil. :bowdown:

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Now, GTFO of here.

[LoneyROY7]

Oly BC went ghost I guess. :lol

[Oly BC]

Oly BC went ghost I guess. :lol
Cringe.


There is no basketball in the US outside San Antonio. Deal with it. There are just dysfunctional teams that don't understand how the game is played (and which at times -rarely- do get european players in charge of their dysfunctional game but I wouldn't exactly call that a medal of honour for those players in and of itself).
Spanoulis or Rodriguez would be great as contributors in a decent team like the spurs, much like Ginobili or Parker are. But in a game of stars where someone is expected to jack up 25 shots while 4 players watch? Please. That is beneath them.


On the other hand the Spurs thoroughly dominating the league has brought something good, a clear and open admission by some teams (say Cavs) that there is only one correct way to play the game.
Maybe if Blatt gets his say in that team and if other teams realize that being stubborn equals being bad, then the future of the NBA will be better.
More... euro-like.

[Jon_Koncak]

No, euroleague teams don't rely on 38 year olds. Since every team has at least some amount of bb iq, you also need athleticism to win. It's not like the NBA where you could easily see the same spurs team dominating everyone for the next year or two (or more).


Sabonis was euroleage's MVP in 2004 at the tender age of 40.

[Oly BC]

Sabonis was euroleage's MVP in 2004 at the tender age of 40.
Greece had money in 2004. Things change.



And also Zalgiris didn't win. There's that minor detail.

[LoneyROY7]

Cringe.


There is no basketball in the US outside San Antonio. Deal with it. There are just dysfunctional teams that don't understand how the game is played (and which at times -rarely- do get european players in charge of their dysfunctional game but I wouldn't exactly call that a medal of honour for those players in and of itself).
Spanoulis or Rodriguez would be great as contributors in a decent team like the spurs, much like Ginobili or Parker are. But in a game of stars where someone is expected to jack up 25 shots while 4 players watch? Please. That is beneath them.

On the other hand the Spurs thoroughly dominating the league has brought something good, a clear and open admission by some teams (say Cavs) that there is only one correct way to play the game.
Maybe if Blatt gets his say in that team and if other teams realize that being stubborn equals being bad, then the future of the NBA will be better.
More... euro-like.

Here's the bottom line:

The best players in Euroeague that have attempted to play the NBA in recent memory have all amounted to little-to-nothing.

In fact, I just took a look at the all-Euroleague first team. Three names were familiar...Sergio Rodriguez, Rudy Fernandez, and Sonny Weems.

What do all three have in common? They were irrelevant at the NBA level. Non-factor, non-impact players.

Sorry, the proof is in the pudding.

[Oly BC]

Here's the bottom line:

The best players in Euroeague that have attempted to play the NBA in recent memory have all amounted to little-to-nothing.

In fact, I just took a look at the all-Euroleague first team. Three names were familiar...Sergio Rodriguez, Rudy Fernandez, and Sonny Weems.

What do all three have in common? They were irrelevant at the NBA level. Non-factor, non-impact players.

Sorry, the proof is in the pudding.
The bottom line is that any player who averages 3 assists in euroleague, if given the ball in the NBA can jump to 6 or 8 and in the end be considered a top guard and a lock for HoF.

Splitter and Green were average, Neal or Beverley scrubs, Ginobili could have been one of the stars had he stayed but certainly not a "genius" impressing everyone with "amazing and never seen before" passing.


Anyway, I see no reason to get into an argument with someone who refuses to see the dysfunctional circus act that passes off as basketball in most of the NBA teams. As I said, change is coming in the NBA, slowly and against the wishes of many, but it is.



PS Sonny Weems is horrible here too. It's players like that that are CSKA's cancer. Way too NBA-ish.

[ralph_i_el]

The bottom line is that any player who averages 3 assists in euroleague, if given the ball in the NBA can jump to 6 or 8 and in the end be considered a top guard and a lock for HoF.

Splitter and Green were average, Neal or Beverley scrubs, Ginobili could have been one of the stars had he stayed but certainly not a "genius" impressing everyone with "amazing and never seen before" passing.


Anyway, I see no reason to get into an argument with someone who refuses to see the dysfunctional circus act that passes off as basketball in most of the NBA teams. As I said, change is coming in the NBA, slowly and against the wishes of many, but it is.



PS Sonny Weems is horrible here too. It's players like that that are CSKA's cancer. Way too NBA-ish.

And I'm sure the us just wins all these international tournaments via rigging?

[outbreak]

people are deluded if they think top euroleague teams couldn't compete against the majority of NBA teams. It's obvious that the NBA has the superior players but it's silly acting like the top teams wouldn't be able to crack the play offs in the NBA

[LoneyROY7]

The bottom line is that any player who averages 3 assists in euroleague, if given the ball in the NBA can jump to 6 or 8 and in the end be considered a top guard and a lock for HoF.

:roll:

What a joke. You have absolutely no evidence or reference to back-up that absurd claim.

Oh wait, both Spanoulis and Rodriguez averaged 3+ assists in Euroleague...how did that work out for them in the NBA?

Stop contradicting yourself.

[Oly BC]

:roll:

What a joke. You have absolutely no evidence or reference to back-up that absurd claim.

Oh wait, both Spanoulis and Rodriguez averaged 3+ assists in Euroleague...how did that work out for them in the NBA?

Stop contradicting yourself.
"If given the ball".

Ginobili, Rubio, Calderon etc
Even freaking Farmar should be counted as a "pg with top vision" in the NBA.:lol
4.9 assists in 22 minutes in a shitty team. He had 3.9 in 30 minutes in euroleague.

Farmar, a pg with vision, able to dish out assists like it's nothing.:roll: :roll: :roll:
Oh god, so funny.

[Oly BC]

And I'm sure the us just wins all these international tournaments via rigging?
I'm sure that if you look at the map you'll find that Europe or Latin America even are divided into a large number of states. Kinda like the US but they count as different countries as well. The US beat Spain in 08 and 12 by a few buckets and while shooting abnormally well from the 3. You're kidding yourself if you can't admit that those games could have easily gone the other way.


After all I'm not suggesting that there are no talented players in the US, not at all. It's just that most of them develop their talent in order to fit in the awful NBA "style".
It's like someone who's only interested in lifting heavy and ignores form. He will snap his back eventually and the proper-form guy will outgain him. :applause:

[Dr.J4ever]

I'm sure that if you look at the map you'll find that Europe or Latin America even are divided into a large number of states. Kinda like the US but they count as different countries as well. The US beat Spain in 08 and 12 by a few buckets and while shooting abnormally well from the 3. You're kidding yourself if you can't admit that those games could have easily gone the other way.


After all I'm not suggesting that there are no talented players in the US, not at all. It's just that most of them develop their talent in order to fit in the awful NBA "style".
It's like someone who's only interested in lifting heavy and ignores form. He will snap his back eventually and the proper-form guy will outgain him. :applause:

I actually like a lot of the Euro style ball, which is why I rooted for the Spurs so they could teach many of us Americans a lesson in the game we invented. However, you can't ignore the US dominance in international basketball in the last 3 international tournaments. You can't ignore NBA vs. EL head to head. Check the stats the NBA dominates this. You can't ignore that most of the best players in the world play in the NBA. Not all. There are many good players in Europe, if given the chance, I believe.

[moe94]

I thought EL was the most delusional but we got a new challenger.

[beastee]

Is Oly BC Euroleague's ALT? There can't be two people who write long paragraphs over and over only to get ethered the very next post....can there?

[Oly BC]

Is Oly BC Euroleague's ALT? There can't be two people who write long paragraphs over and over only to get ethered the very next post....can there?
Ethered? By whom and how?:oldlol:

[moe94]

Ethered? By whom and how?:oldlol:

You mean aside from disregarding facts and talking in hypotheticals?

[Oly BC]

I actually like a lot of the Euro style ball, which is why I rooted for the Spurs so they could teach many of us Americans a lesson in the game we invented. However, you can't ignore the US dominance in international basketball in the last 3 international tournaments. You can't ignore NBA vs. EL head to head. Check the stats the NBA dominates this. You can't ignore that most of the best players in the world play in the NBA. Not all. There are many good players in Europe, if given the chance, I believe.
"Dominance" is not the right word. The US won but barely and playing against countries with a fraction of their talent pool due to simple population constraints.

I'd like to see an NBA team come and play us to get a better view of their superiority but alas they don't. They couldn't even bother to make the shorter trip to Brazil last year for the intercontinental.
At this point the situation is reminiscent of Rocky 3 when he only used to play fixed matches and collect paychecks.:facepalm

NBA is the best brand much like the premier league, that doesn't mean it's the best quality. From a purely basketball pov, I'd have to say that the Spurs bench played the best basketball I have ever seen these finals but I'd take euroleague playoffs over any other nba team's game.

[stevieming]

I won't say anything bad about Leonard, now that's a truly good player who could have a great career in Euroleague if he chose to play with the big boys.
Of course abusing beta males like Lebron is an easier way to earn one's bread so I can see his reasoning.


What you said is laughable though. Leonard is pretty much the spitting image of Papanikolaou physically, height-wise, build-wise and speed-wise and even as players they're the same. Fast moving, "defence and 3" and lots of hustle. Papanikolaou is way more emphatic near the rim though, you'll never see him airballing a lay up like Leonard did many times in the finals.

But as I said I have faith in Leonard, he'll get there. I hope the US make the mistake of giving Durant or George more minutes in the World Cup.

spitting image??? no way...Lenard shut down the best player in the world for the last three years, Pap would get destroyed by Bron...

[GimmeThat]

just tell me Euro League could last against the NBA Leaguer over a whole season.


I mean.

[Oly BC]

You mean aside from disregarding facts and talking in hypotheticals?
It's not a fact that Calderon and Rubio went from being 2-3 apg players to 7-8 apg?
Is it not a fact that Farmar nearly doubled his assists per 36?
I'm sorry, these migh be inconvenient facts but they are facts.

Calathes numbers during that stretch when he started games for Grizzlies were almost equal to the numbers he had in the eurocup. In fact he scored more. What should I do, ignore that? :confusedshrug:

[Dr.J4ever]

"Dominance" is not the right word. The US won but barely and playing against countries with a fraction of their talent pool due to simple population constraints.

I'd like to see an NBA team come and play us to get a better view of their superiority but alas they don't. They couldn't even bother to make the shorter trip to Brazil last year for the intercontinental.
At this point the situation is reminiscent of Rocky 3 when he only used to play fixed matches and collect paychecks.:facepalm

NBA is the best brand much like the premier league, that doesn't mean it's the best quality. From a purely basketball pov, I'd have to say that the Spurs bench played the best basketball I have ever seen these finals but I'd take euroleague playoffs over any other nba team's game.

Not to put words in your mouth, and I'm trying to understand you, I believe you like the Euro style of basketball better, not the NBA style. This is a perfectly legitimate point of view.

Make no mistake about it though, the US is the big dog in basketball, and right now, it's not even close. Yes, some games vs. Lithuania and Spain were close, but eventually an undefeated team will play some close games against good competition. Give the US team a break there.

[Oly BC]

spitting image??? no way...Lenard shut down the best player in the world for the last three years, Pap would get destroyed by Bron...
Just as much as LeBron destroyed Leonard, sure. Him being twice his size does little when his footwork is so mediocre. I remember Lebron just passing the ball when he was guarded by Kirilenko. Play after play in a close game just pass, pass, pass. Not even an assist attempt, just to the guy next to him. Papanikolaou scored about 20 points on a younger Kirilenko in a final.

Physically the two players are like clones, it's not my fault if you've only seen one of them.

[Oly BC]

Not to put words in your mouth, and I'm trying to understand you, I believe you like the Euro style of basketball better, not the NBA style. This is a perfectly legitimate point of view.

Make no mistake about it though, the US is the big dog in basketball, and right now, it's not even close. Yes, some games vs. Lithuania and Spain were close, but eventually an undefeated team will play some close games against good competition. Give the US team a break there.
Lithuania has a population of 3.5 million (but then again basketball is their national sport).
Spain has the population of one large state and equally football gets more attention.

A Spain+Lithuania+France+Turkey+Germany+Greece+Croat ia+Serbia would be more than "good competition" and they're still a smaller talent pool.
Hell, I could get rid of Turkey and Germany and still come up with a team that 9 out of 10 wins everything.

Also, what do you mean "some close games"? It's not like the US met Spain a dozen times and there were 10 blowouts and 2 close ones. They meet in finals and it's always close.

[Sakkreth]

Lithuania has a population of 3.5 million (but then again basketball is their national sport).
Spain has the population of one large state and equally football gets more attention.

A Spain+Lithuania+France+Turkey+Germany+Greece+Croat ia+Serbia would be more than "good competition" and they're still a smaller talent pool.

We are below 3 million in population.

[Oly BC]

We are below 3 million in population.
Yeah, I wasn't far off though.:cheers:

[Euroleague]

Inb4 some moron claims a league with ONE good team is "better than the Euroleague"........

[Euroleague]

:roll: :roll: :roll:

The 2014 NBA Finals MVP is a better athlete than any player in the Euroleague.

He wouldn't be even top 30 in the Euroleague, maybe not even top 50.

WTF are you smoking?

And I'm being EXTREMELY generous.

I mean he would not even be top 3 on teams like Panathinaikos or Olympiacos.

WTF are you smoking?

[Euroleague]

Sabonis was euroleage's MVP in 2004 at the tender age of 40.

Except that the Euroleague MVP award didn't even exist until the year 2005.

Stop acting like Rooster.

[Euroleague]

And I'm sure the us just wins all these international tournaments via rigging?

Yes, they do. And that's been proven here dozens of times, and every time it is, the threads always get deleted magically.

[Nash]

He wouldn't be even top 30 in the Euroleague, maybe not even top 50.

WTF are you smoking?

And I'm being EXTREMELY generous.

I mean he would not even be top 3 on teams like Panathinaikos or Olympiacos.

WTF are you smoking?
yes, how would he when guys like Kirilenko and sergio rodriguez win MVP. Bet Pop and the Spurs would trade Kawhi in a heartbeat for those 2 superstar Euroleague players.

[Euroleague]

I actually like a lot of the Euro style ball, which is why I rooted for the Spurs so they could teach many of us Americans a lesson in the game we invented. However, you can't ignore the US dominance in international basketball in the last 3 international tournaments. You can't ignore NBA vs. EL head to head. Check the stats the NBA dominates this. You can't ignore that most of the best players in the world play in the NBA. Not all. There are many good players in Europe, if given the chance, I believe.

You can't ignore the fact that in 2004 and 2008 Olympics the officials said they were instructed to rig it in favor of Team USA....

oh yeah, but you do IGNORE IT. Even though it has been brought up dozens of times in this forum, and linked dozens of times with articles from news media in several countries in several well respected newspapers from around the world.

And EVERY time it is mentioned again, you PRETEND "you never ever heard of it before".

And you also are completely full of SHIT about NBA versus Euroleague games. Every time even a decent Euroleague team plays an NBA team under the mixed rules and reffing in recent years (that just means 1 FIBA ref and the no defensive 3 seconds rule) the Euroleague teams CLOBBERED the NBA teams....

You are just a complete arrogant a-hole.

[Andrew Wiggins]

oly bc = euroleague's alter ego formerly known as duskovujosevic

[Euroleague]

just tell me Euro League could last against the NBA Leaguer over a whole season.


I mean.

Is this a freaking joke? NBA is a candy ass pansy league. They don't even play hard until the conference finals.

And in the current NBA they don't even play defense EVER. They don't even play defense at the finals anymore.

:biggums:

The NBA teams expend probably 1/3 the energy that the big European clubs do during a season.

[moe94]

He wouldn't be even top 30 in the Euroleague, maybe not even top 50.

WTF are you smoking?

And I'm being EXTREMELY generous.

I mean he would not even be top 3 on teams like Panathinaikos or Olympiacos.

WTF are you smoking?

Loving the bold and repetition. :roll:

[Dr.J4ever]

You can't ignore the fact that in 2004 and 2008 Olympics the officials said they were instructed to rig it in favor of Team USA....

oh yeah, but you do IGNORE IT. Even though it has been brought up dozens of times in this forum, and linked dozens of times with articles from news media in several countries in several well respected newspapers from around the world.

And EVERY time it is mentioned again, you PRETEND "you never ever heard of it before".

And you also are completely full of SHIT about NBA versus Euroleague games. Every time even a decent Euroleague team plays an NBA team under the mixed rules and reffing in recent years (that just means 1 FIBA ref and the no defensive 3 seconds rule) the Euroleague teams CLOBBERED the NBA teams....

You are just a complete arrogant a-hole.

Boy, you have been in a really bad mood the last couple of days. Cheer up it's just a basketball forum. It's not real life:cheers:

Again, just show one link on supposed rigging, and we can go over it. Let's see.

I won't even have to look up EL vs NBA because it has been brought up here so many times, it's boring now. NBA dominates in head to head.

[Oly BC]

oly bc = euroleague's alter ego formerly known as duskovujosevic
Sure, whatever. :lol

[Euroleague]

It's not a fact that Calderon and Rubio went from being 2-3 apg players to 7-8 apg?
Is it not a fact that Farmar nearly doubled his assists per 36?
I'm sorry, these migh be inconvenient facts but they are facts.

Calathes numbers during that stretch when he started games for Grizzlies were almost equal to the numbers he had in the eurocup. In fact he scored more. What should I do, ignore that? :confusedshrug:

Gary Neal was a scrub in Euroleague.

Rubio was a scrub in Euroleague.

Dragic was a scrub in Euroleague.

Ty Lawson was a scrub in Euroleague.

Brandon Jennings was a scrub in Euroleague.

and about 50 other such examples, etc.

It's been discussed dozens of times in this forum. I've brought it up dozens of times here.

Believe me, Dr.J.4ever and gabepizza have a billion made up imagined FAKE BULLSHIT excuses that are LIES that they will just start posting to "explain it all".

Then they will claim that everything they said was "fact" and that anyone disagreeing with it is "a liar and is insane, and is a troll".

[Euroleague]

Not to put words in your mouth, and I'm trying to understand you, I believe you like the Euro style of basketball better, not the NBA style. This is a perfectly legitimate point of view.

Make no mistake about it though, the US is the big dog in basketball, and right now, it's not even close. Yes, some games vs. Lithuania and Spain were close, but eventually an undefeated team will play some close games against good competition. Give the US team a break there.

You are a totally full of it and you know it.

EVERY SINGLE TIME an NBA team or USA loses you have a million excuses,

"they didn't try" (never true)
"they played the bench the whole game" (never true)
"their 3rd string was in the whole 2nd half" (never true)

blah blah blah

EVERY SINGLE TIME a Euroleague team beats an NBA team or whatever,

you claim........

"they were playing the most important game of their lives" (never true)
"they were playing their starters the whole game" (never true)
"they did everything humanly possible to win the game" (never true)

blah blah blah

You NEVER EVER once admit how Team USA gets pushed by the refs EVER. Even in games where it is BLATANTLY obvious and everyone can see it is BLATANTLY obvious and only a complete retard or blind person would watch the game and not notice it.

You don't have Oly BC or any other European basketball fan here fooled for even one second.

[Dr.J4ever]

You are a totally full of shit and you know it.

EVERY SINGLE TIME an NBA team or USA loses you have a million excuses,

"they didn't try" (never true)
"they played the bench the whole game" (never true)
"their 3rd string was in the whole 2nd half" (never true)

blah blah blah

EVEY SINGLE TIME a Euroleague team beats an NBA team or whatever,

you claim........

"they were playing the most important game of their lives" (never true)
"they were playing their starters the whole game" (never true)
"they did everything humanly possible to win the game" (never true)

blah blah blah

You NEVER EVER once admit how Team USA gets pushed by the refs EVER. Even in games where it is BLATANTLY obvious and everyone can see it is BLATANTLY obvious and only a complete retard or blind person would watch the game and not notice it.

You don't have Oly BC or any other European basketball fan here fooled for even one second.
Okay whatever:lol

[Euroleague]

Just as much as LeBron destroyed Leonard, sure. Him being twice his size does little when his footwork is so mediocre. I remember Lebron just passing the ball when he was guarded by Kirilenko. Play after play in a close game just pass, pass, pass. Not even an assist attempt, just to the guy next to him. Papanikolaou scored about 20 points on a younger Kirilenko in a final.

Physically the two players are like clones, it's not my fault if you've only seen one of them.

For a Euroleague comparison I would actually think Leonard is more like someone Zoran Dragic.

Runs a lot, guards in the wing a lot, fast, lots of open court play. Hits open 3s, considered "a good shooter", but really isn't - just gets open looks and can hit them decently because of the team system.

But can't really shoot on their own merit, etc. High energy motor.

[Heatles201]

Gary Neal was a scrub in Euroleague.

Rubio was a scrub in Euroleague.

Dragic was a scrub in Euroleague.

Ty Lawson was a scrub in Euroleague.

Brandon Jennings was a scrub in Euroleague.

and about 50 other such examples, etc.

It's been discussed dozens of times in this forum. I've brought it up dozens of times here.

Believe me, these ass clowns like Dr.J.4ever and gabepizza have a billion made up imagined FAKE BULLSHIT excuses that are LIES that they will just start posting to "explain it all".

Then they will claim that everything they said was "fact" and that anyone disagreeing with it is "a liar and is insane, and is a troll".

Okay jennings was a scrub in Euroleague.. Ty Lawson... Etc..
do you realize the euroleague self proclaimed best player by you and others Vassilis Spanoulis was awful in the NBA? and don't give me any excuses " van gundy hated him etc" No he was pure shit, he looked lost and couldn't blow by anybody looked physically outmatched and this was usually vs bench guys

[Euroleague]

yes, how would he when guys like Kirilenko and sergio rodriguez win MVP. Bet Pop and the Spurs would trade Kawhi in a heartbeat for those 2 superstar Euroleague players.

Such lowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww IQs..........

:facepalm

[Euroleague]

Okay jennings was a scrub in Euroleague.. Ty Lawson... Etc..
do you realize the euroleague self proclaimed best player by you and others Vassilis Spanoulis was awful in the NBA? and don't give me any excuses " van gundy hated him etc" No he was pure shit, he looked lost and couldn't blow by anybody looked physically outmatched and this was usually vs bench guys

There is plenty of video footage on YouTube of Spanoulis destroying defenders in the NBA to prove you are full of it.

Nice try through troll.

[Euroleague]

oly bc = euroleague's alter ego formerly known as duskovujosevic

Andrew Wiggins = one of KWSN-Men's (from interbasket.net) numerous accounts here and at other sites.

He took a YEAR long ban at interbasket.net so he became active here for awhile.

[Euroleague]

Boy, you have been in a really bad mood the last couple of days. Cheer up it's just a basketball forum. It's not real life:cheers:

Again, just show one link on supposed rigging, and we can go over it. Let's see.

I won't even have to look up EL vs NBA because it has been brought up here so many times, it's boring now. NBA dominates in head to head.

I have shown numerous links dozens of times. You PRETEND to have never heard of this. You ask for a link. I give it. Then you report it to the mods. Then it gets deleted.

I'm not playing that game anymore.

Just know however, that from now on, every time you lie here, every time you post racism here, you ARE getting reported.

Just ask gabepizza and Rooster how they enjoyed that long ban they took.

[Euroleague]

Sure, whatever. :lol

If you have ever read interbasket.net forums, that guy is KWSN-Men. So yeah, nothing more needs to be said.

[Dr.J4ever]

I have shown numerous links dozens of times. You PRETEND to have never heard of this. You ask for a link. I give it. Then you report it to the mods. Then it gets deleted.

I'm not playing that game anymore.

Just know however, that from now on, every time you lie here, every time you post racism here, you ARE getting reported.

Just ask gabepizza and Rooster how they enjoyed that long ban they took.
For the record, I have never reported anything to a moderator. Ever. Let a moderator ban me now if I'm lying.